Anderson Cooper out-classes Pumpkinhead and Williams by a mile.
They Republicans are bickering like little kids.
Grandpa Fred looks like he’d rather be taking a nap.
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They Republicans are bickering like little kids.
Grandpa Fred looks like he’d rather be taking a nap.
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Such a strange show.
zed.
Jane! It burns my eyes!
These guys are sad….
1?
6
First?
Gawd…I read that as Republican Torture Debate…my bad.
Ha…not even close!
So, what’s with the wacky commercials?
Romney says he was wrong. He is anti-choice. He is so sorry that he used to be pro-choice. He refuses to keep apologizing about this issue.
LS @ 9
Fixed.
Buy American? What’s made in America these days…?
Prairie Sunshine @ 12
lol
If I were the Republicans I don’t think I’d run on cutting taxes and the economy.
CTuttle @ 13
Members of organized crime.
commercial break.
Pick out the drinking buttons. I choose “booz”
my Thanksgiving potatoes were made in the US. Who wants potatoes for Christmas?
this is a great debate – i’m not watching at all… just following along with your comments. it’s like a firewall between me and insanity. thanks ‘pups!
Loo Hoo. @ 11
He must believe in that thing where you can become a virgin again, too.
CTuttle @ 13
Innovative collateralized debt instruments?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 15
I’m still lost at “If I were the Republicans “
TexBetsy @ 18
lol
Will be back to catch up on developments. Mr. S. informs me we’re switchin’ over to the other Criminal Minds show now…..
CTuttle @ 13
My friend manufactures high-tech ceramic insulators in Northern Vermont. The factory is really fascinating. The pieces are made to order, so he can’t do assembly lines.
Just thought I’d add a soupcon of intelligence to an evening where it is otherwise absent.
I actually am finding this show (debate) somewhat interesting.
nonplussed @ 21
i believe that would be “shit pile” in atrios-speak.
Jane,
You must have been in a hurry. “They Republicans…”?
Thanks for keeping an eye on us and the servers!
:-)
Bob in HI
Toby Wollin @ 20
LOL. Though who’d want to is a mystery to me.
Prairie Sunshine @ 24
OOOhhh…. Now I have to switch back and forth… Rats.
Bang bang bang bang bang.
Oh goodie, gun control.
nonplussed @ 21
That are swirling around the toilet bowl headed for the septic tank…?
Gotta love the gun nuts. They’re silly.
eCAHNomics @ 25
Corning, Inc. manufacturers all sorts of stuff in NY, NC…I’m not sure where else. But, I’m not sure if people want catalytic converters or fiber optic cable in their stockings. They sold off the dishware part of the business a while ago – don’t know who makes it or where any more.
Does Duncan Hunter have a neck?
Oh, now we’ll all bow down to the NRA.
I R 2 dumb to pass a gunn ecksam
selise @ 27
Shucks, ya beat me to the punch… *g*
I think it’s a good thing that I got up to make a snack.
This guy wants people who can’t read to own guns. Yummy!
Marion in Savannah @ 37
Lemme guess: Rudy’s grovelling extra hard in view of the recent revelations about his expensing his goylefwends.
solai @ 36
If so, it’s got a fairly unpleasant growth attached to it.
Rudy booed on imposing reasonable regulations on gun control.
Toby Wollin @ 20
You disagree with that premise?
solai @ 36
Sadly, it went the way of his cognitive thinking and brain….
“My question is which one of you has the biggest, umm, “gun”. And is it okay if I use mine occasionally if I promise to only shoot brown people”?
JulieWaters @ 43
[wiping beer off the monitor] 707!
OT..Rut Roh
A federal grand jury has indicted prominent attorney Richard “Dickie” Scruggs and several other attorneys on criminal charges of trying to bribe a state court judge in a civil case.
(snip)
Dickie Scruggs’ brother-in-law is Senator Trent Lott who just announced on Monday, his plans to retire from the U-S Senate.
link
solai @ 36
Remember the No-Neckers in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof?
TexBetsy @ 22
These guys are still on the old tax cut treadmill. And that tax cuts help the economy. Most Americans know where the tax cuts went. I’m thinking. I don’t think the GOP running on tax cuts for the rich, shows very good judgement. Perhaps I don’t understand your question. ;0)
eCAHNomics @ 44
Well, if we control guns we can’t shoot the illegal aliens. It’s a very consistent stance. Wide, but consistent…
jayt @ 47
I’m truly concerned with Scotus’s impending ruling on the DC Gun Laws…
oooooo, more bang bang, yay!
How much stage make-up does Law & Order run through when they do Thompson’s face?
Loo Hoo. @ 45
Well, if you believe that through yourdearlordandsaviorjesuschrist (all one word), you can be forgiven for all your sins, all the time, and can go on to keep committing them over and over again without ever changing, then I suppose that it IS possible, in an alternative dimension, that one’s virginity could be re-established(sort of like Superman turning the earth to run in the opposite direction in order to save Lois Lane). But, from a pragmatic and non-delusional standpoint, virginity is one of those “snapshot in time” things – in this instant you are…the next instant…not so much.
((((((((((Jacqrat)))))))))))
I’d like to see someone ask them if they’d go hunting with Dick Cheney.
Marion in Savannah @ 48
Thanks. I’ll be here all week.
Damn they love their guns.
eCAHNomics @ 51
Yep, No Neck Monsters.
I like this debate. I hope this sets a standard for future GOP campaign events. I think some on on the last thread compared it to some demented animal eating its own tail. I couldn’t watch that… it would be horrible, but this is OK.
They all have big guns inherited from their daddies. Yippee.
What part of ‘a well regulated militia’ don’t they understand…
Are they going to show the clip of the couple whose gay son was murdered?
TexBetsy @ 55
They order it in 55 gal. drums and spray in on..
CTuttle @ 53
Take heart. There’s always the off chance that the members of the Court (Clarence Thomas excluded of course) might actually *read* the 2nd Amendment first…
well, it’s possible…
cyclo live blogs the debate here
http://www.chatzy.com/507191129048
perris, just left you a comment below
TexBetsy @ 55
And why didn’t he do the same tonight?
Actually, it might be the lighting. I’m thinking that Thompson mostly in dim light in L&O.
The whitest man in America explaining how to stop black-on-black crime. Funny it is…
Steve-AR @ 49
So it starts…
Romney says the civil rights issue of our time is in the inner-city schools.
“Grandpa Fred looks like he’d rather be taking a nap.”
In his trophy daughter’s lap, no doubt. Why are Hunter and Tancredo still in the race? For that matter, why do they still have freedom of speech? sorry..
CTuttle @ 53
I am too..I wish DC hadn’t pushed it to SCOTUS at this time.
ok, now Mitty says inner city blacks have no values.
The Republicans are now discussing family values. What a riot.
Willard tells the young black boy that he’s lucky – he actually has a *dad*!!! standing next to him.
Racism – what racism?
Checked in on the freepers. Big swoonfest for Ole Freddy over there. Can you imagine?
eCAHNomics @ 25
Thanks, eCAHN.
You didn’t mean to say our comments have been devoid of intelligence, right? Just CNN and the people thereon right now?
FunnyDiva
silly and intelligent are not mutually exclusive…I hope.
sorry.. who’s Willard?
Blub @ 73
Have you heard them speak?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 76
In this crowd? Let’s see now – someone want to total up all the ex-wives in this bunch?
hmmm Rudy, can we talk about Abner Louima (sp)?
Mormon Family Values
Rudy did such a great job in New York. He only lost 3 skyscrapers in one day.
Chris Rock puts it in perspective: You don’t need gun control you need bullet control
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eFcVwDw4YLE
Blub @ 73
Yes. Looking at him makes me sleepy. Perhaps he is sleeping.
Romney says he didn’t have a chance to be a MAYOR, he was a governor!!!
TexBetsy @ 69
thanx texbetsy, got it
CTuttle @ 64
The well-regulated militia have all been sent over to the Middle East, leaving a vacuum here state-side. Perhaps to be filled by Blackwater employees, since it looks like they might be losing their Iraq contract.
Bob in HI
gimmeabreak @ 83
Dear Rudy: Kerik! Kerik! KeriK! Kerik! Kerik! :)
Toby Wollin @ 66
Is that why it looks like his face is sagging?
Bob in HI
Ha. Just knew someone would call me out on that. Let me just say that it’s hard to comment intelligently when the underlying subject is so stupid. But we’re trying.
ccmask @ 85
Framing is everything.
Willard is Mitt Romney’s true first name.
I wonder if Fred used a golf cart to get to his podium?
ccmask @ 96
Nope. Range Rover.
You know, I’ve always had this impression of Mitt as this sort of benign, elitist patrician, but tonight he is showing a grasping, naked greed that is very disquieting.
Fred: Reversing Roe v. Wade should be our number one priority.
Willard? Does he have a trained rat named “Ben”?
ReneND @ 94
He could’ve lost ten times that many had he not hurried to the site in time with his bullhorn. That act alone scarred the ‘rrerists from launching their next wave of attacks.
Thomspson: “I think (abortion) should be our number one priority.”
WTF!?!?
ccmask @ 96
Please don’t make jokes that might be interpreted as anti-disability.
TexBetsy @ 55
They must buy the stuff by the tanker truck full.
ReneND @ 94
I like it
valletta @ 101
It’s just fine to kill fully formed people over in Iraq.
eCAHNomics @ 93
Desperately trying, err… groping… never mind… ;-)
TexBetsy @ 102
What about jokes that might be interpreted as anti-lazy-fart?
Would you sign a bill to ban abortion’
Guilliani, no- states decide
Romney, yes- states decide
wesgpc @ 61
IOKIIR
It’s OK if it’s Republicans eating their own (tail)!
FunnyDiva
death penalty. WWJD?
JulieWaters @ 107
anti-lazy is cool
valletta @ 101
Too late, the Republican candidates have already been born.
RonD @ 98
And then, what, Fred? Proclaiming Eminent Domain over every patent uterus in the United States in every pre-menopausal woman out there? Huh?
What happened to all the snarky questions that I voted for, dammit? Oh, maybe one snuck in.
JulieWaters @ 97
I thought I saw a souped-up scooter round back.
Pro-life and pro-death go together so well with these guys.
Huckerbee
It’s OK if we all decide to put someone to death. I guess like it was OK if we all decide that slavery’s OK.
Selise (I am responding to your response on last thread, if you are here): The Dems can never become the party of the backers of the big money wing of the GOP. I believe those people do think like the mafia -they ARE the US corporate and old-money mafia. They will always use and lose the Democrats, so if Democrats ever think those people can be political allies over anything but very short term for very specific purposes, then the Democrats are just real real stupid and sad sad losers. And that is a good description of the DLC types.
I think the rogue reactionary faction of US corporations and decadent rich = GOP forever. You really must always place money first foremost and only, otherwise you are not one of them, and never can be again, ever ever. Period. Money and power is very serious shit with those people. Everything is for keeps. They will go to a very awful Buddhist hell when they die for a very long time.
Huckster, crimes so heinous… howza about war crimes… Hmmm… There are statutes in the books calling for it…
Huckabee: WWJD – Jesus was too smart to ever run for office.
Huckabee: How can you be pro-life and pro-death penalty? A fetus hasn’t been convicted of anything. That’s how I reconcile the two.
Jesus would kill people?
somebody remind some other time to explain why I think no Christian has standing to oppose abortion.
Back to the debate…
eCAHNomics @ 117
actually the answer was pretty well thought and played very nicely
I think aborting Republicans should be our number one priority.
Giuliani and I agree on the bible. Different bible, but even so …
gimmeabreak @ 122
Only the troublemakers. Oh wait . . .
Mr. Love Nest (paid for by NYers) reads the bible all the time.
David Ehrenstein @ 125
But, but, how would we know their predilections… ;-)
TexBetsy @ 102
Fred Thompson was at a country fair sonmewhere riding around in his golf cart instead of walking around and took a lot of heat for it Betsy. I use my golf cart because I’m a lazy person also. I didn’t know it meant disabled.
Anyone believe that Rudy reads the bible, often?
David Ehrenstein @ 125
But then more will take their place.
“Who would Jesus kill?”
Rudy-I don’t believe every single word in the Bible. Some of it is symbolic.
**crickets**
I think Rudy just lost South Carolina.
just turned it on and these guys scare me very much.
Heresy heresy heresy heresy.
Whenever Ghouliani cheats…and feels guilty, he turns to the Bible, but he doesn’t believe every word.
Huckabee’s preaching.
ccmask @ 130
OK. No offense taken.
The youtube questioners are as scary as the candidates on that stage. What a bunch of nuts!
OldCoastie @ 128
Especially the 8 Commandments.
RonD @ 134
Combovers are symbolic of bald heads. Bald heads are symbolic of having no hair.
The Republicans read the Bible. What does that say about their policies, philosophies, pronouncements and actions?
eCAHNomics @ 93
Heh. yeah. Teh Stoopid! It’s holding back my brain, AAAAAAGH!
I’ve just figured the live-blog portion is for having some fun pointing and laughing at those on telly. I’m sure we’ll have lots and lots of intelligent commentary tomorrow, right here at the lake!
XO
FunnyDiva
A time to be Silly, a time to be intelligent…
Leviticus in Teh Bible…
RonD @ 134
Ah, and THAT’s how you can reconcile your private life and your public life? Nice, Rudy.
Weasel.
god is too small if he wrote something that we understand
hmmmm
Loo Hoo. @ 139
At least he used to do it honestly, and get paid for it.
CTuttle @ 129
Be on the lookout for the soft, pudgy lookin’ ones with no discernible chin…
Mitt is making my skin crawl.
solai @ 131
Color me skeptical. But then maybe that;s what he does afterwards, instead of smoking a cigarette.
I have to say– not only do we have funnier people to ask questions, we have more sane ones.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 144
tells me they have problems with reading comprehension.
RonD @ 134
he’s tefering to the loving compassion and goodwill to man part, no doubt. Can’t take Jesus’ words so literally.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 144
It says a lot about their ability to read and comprehend.
What ever happened with the push polls targeting Romney? Did they find out who did it? Was it the Romney org.?
Before the debate, Anderson said that there were 5000 YouTubes submitted, contrasted with 2000 sent for the democratic debate. Of course they waited six months to respond, with lots of these questions having been asked on the trail.
It means they believe every inconsistent word written by a pack of bi-polar hysterics who believe in a Big Invisible Daddy in the Sky.
smapdi @ 155
Ohh, I got OC’ed
A doubt never entered my mind.
I’m waiting for Romney’s snowball question!!
Suppose Huckabee reads “The Song of Solomon” to his wife to get her in the mood?
God to the men Republicans: Thou shalt have many affairs and perhaps many wives.
Loo Hoo. @ 108
Of course, it wouldn’t enter their manly, manly heads to let WOMEN decide.
spit.
FunnyDiva
Another Rudy “goodie”
Rudy Giuliani disclosed on his federal tax returns that he considers his wife an employee and paid her $125k a year for speechwriting help, an arrangement that pre-dated their marriage. The money was included as income on their joint tax return and they paid taxes on it.
(snip)
My take: I don’t believe for a second the pay was for her speechwriting help. It sounds like a clothing, hair and makeup allowance, and the only way to deduct it was to make her an employee.
talkleft
does anyone else have the feeling that they have been transported to a parallel universe???
don’t they all seem a little too white and a little too male?
YIKES!
RonD @ 161
Mood for what, shooting her grenade launcher? /s
Oklahoma kiddo @ 163
…while conquering in HIS name
wesgpc @ 118 -
i’m here. thanks. hope you are right.
RonD @ 161
EEEWWWWWWW…. Now I’ll never be able to read it again without that image popping up. Brain bleach, I need brain bleach…
perris @ 147
If there’s something in the bible you don’t understand, god didn’t write it
Yeah, with some of these wingnut Christianists, Jesus will come back to kill people and send them to hell forever. He will be a different Jesus than before, riding the white horse of vicrtory, and speaking with a sword for a tongue and a voice of flame.
It’s a tortured way of reading the Bible, but the ridiculous medai news stars are convinced that this is the true Christianity (even if they themselves do not believe a damn thing – I think they are too mindless to really think anything at all about religion), so it is easy to sell.
i’m out of socks. what do i throw at the TV now?
Funnydiva2002 @ 164
FunnyD – remember, WE don’t own our own procreative capability – it has to belong to some guy.
What pitiful issues these guys run on. It’s like that guy (whowuzit?) who said that Repuglicons hate big government but they love big brother — in your bedroom! UGH!
Uh-oh– woman in a Burka– Tancredo looks scared.
Yes. And it’s run by a bunch of Lectroids from Planet 10!
Steve-AR @ 165
Sounds like she got paid for her services.
Whoa, nice question, bad answer by Ghouliani…
TexBetsy @ 174
Got any poodles?
Loo Hoo. @ 157
And CNN took out the “gotcha” questions for the Republicans. Can make them look too bad.
OldCoastie @ 167
Downstairs I said they looked like a convention of undertakers, but I now apologize to all undertakers. They’re obviously the undead.
These guys are like the Eight Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Sorry, link to Janet and her grenade launcher here.
Rudy: 6 seconds into the question :9/11!
Rudy pimping 9-11. Again.
TexBetsy @ 174
scrunched up pieces of paper.
smapdi @ 150
Can you be specific, for us who can’t actually see the debate (no CNN).
RonD @ 162
Is that what they call it?
jayt @ 123
Consider yourself reminded.
Coming to Late Nite?
FunnyDiva
I’m not watching it, but has Saint McCain said anything tonight? No one is posting anything about him.
ccmask @ 185
Nah. Horsemen have a useful skill.
aha…rudy got in september 11th…been a while In guess
TexBetsy @ 174
Gosh… panty hose? cotton balls? the cat? Quick — think of something!
wow. A sane question about Iraq. What to do to restore our national dignity and reputation.
Rudy – “Go on the offense! Kill more of them! Kill!”
(fighting urge to break into Alice’s Restaurant again)
David Ehrenstein @ 158
Except for Rudy – who only believes half of it every other day (not discounting the republican premise that X-tianity with perpertual war must be imposed on the entire world).
selise @ 189
That’s what I used to use when watch Rushbo on TV – remember when he had a TV show?
F*ck! None of them are answering the question…
TexBetsy @ 174
Popcorn, of course.
Listening to these guys, it is so incredibly obvious how disconnected they are from what is happening in the world.
Why would you want to offend anyone! Giuliani is an idiot!!!
McCain is delusional! Winning the war Iraq? McCain looks like he belongs on the Galapago Islands.
ccmask @ 185
but can any of ‘em spell ‘apocalypse’?
mccain
the first thing to do is continue the surge
huh?
that makes it not a surge
OldCoastie @ 128
Well, ya know, Song of Solomon is actually pretty racy!
McCain sez, “I’m smart! I know stuff! War! War! War! Demcrats are stupid!”
McCain is OBESESSED with the word “surrender”. He gets all misty thinking about Vietnam, and he’s trying to relive it. It never works out that way.
McCain: I’m the only one on stage who said the Rumsfeld strategy wasn’t working.
How to improve relations with Islamic nations:
Ghouliani, keep a strong defense, but don’t blame all people Islamic. He just said that no democrat used the term Islamic terrorists. I doubt that!
McCain, fight back the democrats on date for withdrawl, which is a strategy for defeat. We can succeed! Let us win!!!
Hunter, when we are faced with problems, we respond.
TexBetsy @ 174
You set a good example for the children and get them to pick up the socks. Reload!
ceci @ 202
He hasn’t evolved enough…
Is it just me, or does Hunter look like he’s permanently slanted?
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 192
Just said he’s repair American relations with Muslim world by continuing the surge. Or maybe that answer was related to another Q that I missed.
valletta @ 207
I guess the Beach Boys didn’t write a song for that scenario.
Oh… I get it now, Republican candidates. The surge is working and there are Islamic terrorists, but no Christian terrorists.
LS @ 201
They are disconnected from anything post-2002.
Shadowstalker @ 210
Nah. Just let the kiddies throw each other.
mccain said something that will play very well with the base;
“if the democrats got their way al qaeda will say they defeated America”
not true, we enabled al qaeda by invading Iraq but that line is gonna play nicely for them
“I’m against torture, but I won’t call water-boarding torture. In other words, I’m a dick.”
eCAHNomics @ 213
Nope, that was his solution…
dissing ACLU
tejanarusa @ 188
I’m only watching, not listening. Mitt stares directly into the camera, his hair product(s) gleaming.
Romney, “I LIKE torture! I’m a real man!!”
Romney: It’s not wise for us to describe what kind of
torturethings we would do to them. We don’t torture.I can’t watch any more. Ugh.
Thompson is a walking DNR Order, BTW.
Questioner: “Since McCain is the only one of you who has any first-hand experience with torture, how can any of you disagree with him on the subject?”
Thank you, brave Firepups, for watching for me. I don’t think i could stomach watching the debate if i had a tv (delicate tummy, yanno)
McCain calls out Romney on torture.
Connecticut Bob @ 219
That was a very nice summary.
I am going home
g’night all
gimmeabreak @ 198
no! thank goodness.
McCain is pissed off at Romney’s answer and schooling him pretty well. Audience is enthused.
At least McCain is getting the Torture issue right… I wonder why…
Three cheers for the eleventh hissyfit!
Go McCain!
i am against torture, but would someone please smack that smirk off Romney’s face?
McCain speaking out against Romney’s waffling on waterboarding and torture…Romney wah wah wah wah wah
McCain good on torture. Actually looked angry. Now the MittBot 2.0 weasels…
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 227
I couldn’t watch it by myself either.
Romney wants to maintain the U.S. concentration camp in Cuba.
McCain looks like he might punch Romney in the nose.
McCain arguing against torture. Romney giving him a condescending look.
Cofer Black is advising Willard?
Lovely.
McCain, “Life is not “24″.”
McCain – Romney waterboarding is torture, and it is a violation of the Geneva convention!! Smackdown. How can anyone think that Americans could be permitted to inflict it is absolutely beyond me.
Romney – I didn’t say I was in favor of torture, I don’t want the enemy to know what we might be able to do. Cofer Black has advised me.
McCain – Then you would have to advocate that we withdraw from the G. Conventions, because it is clearly in violation of the Convention and our laws. It is not Jack Bauer land.
I think McCain would make a terrible and frightening president, but I respect his stand on this issue. Only wish he wouldn’t have folded when Bush made torture U.S. policy.
TexBetsy @ 221
beileve it or not this still works. Among the rethug elders in my family, the ACLU is still public enemy #2.. right after anything female named “Clinton”…
How dare any one of those bastards disagree with McCain about torture?
Heh, smacking down the Jack Bauer mentality, Go McCain…
Every once in awhile, I really like McCain. It rarely lasts, but there are things about him I do admire. This answer helps define that for me.
neurophius @ 246
ding!
TexBetsy @ 236
Please. Twice if necessary.
McCain to Romney: “If that is your position, then you support withdrawing from the Geneva conventions.”
McCain takes a strong stance against torture. He doesn’t discuss his votes.
McCain kills me. He doesn’t like torture but supports the continuation of the Iraq War.
I apologize for my entire state for that question. We’re not all morons…
jayt @ 243
I thought Cofer Black was working for Giuliani Partners. Guess I got that wrong.
gawd! Thompson is an ugly man…
LS @ 245
This is the one area that McCain can really get on top of and speak from a credible position. He KNOWS. Romney is a d***head.
Doesn’t Cofer Black work for Blackwater?
someone please ask freddie what the mission is in iraq
Anyone else notice that Rudy checks his cheat sheet before he answers a question?
JulieWaters @ 250
Until the next question gets asked…
Buzz From Georgia ’splainin’ to the candi’s why we should stay in Iraq forever. Thanks, Buzz.
“Which one of you will promise that we’ll never, ever leave Iraq?”
JulieWaters @ 250
The only genuine moment so far has been McCain on torture.
Toby Wollin @ 176
Yeah, great.
I think I really WILL sell up and move to Egypt where the few US dollars I still have will go much farther. I mean…if some man gets to decide who I marry and if/when I get preggers, and if I have to live in a faux-democratic police state, at least I could get some level of “teh good life” out of it.
Spit. Spit.
FunnyDiva
Thompson just woke up…islamic terrorists…yawn…their waiting to kill us all…and oil is going to go really high….progress…we are making progress…and I’m invested in the idea of victory…not defeat.
Having actually been tortured McCain is speaking from genuine experience.
Paul, “the best thing we can do for Iraq is give those people their country back”
RonD @ 252
Disingenuous. The US has already withdrawn from the Geneva Conventions. With Torture and with the use of mercinaries.
Ron Paul–the surge isn’t working.
Ron, it’s the Kurds up north…
David Ehrenstein @ 158
I love it!
eCAHNomics @ 224
in other words, he’s sayin’ that McCain is undermining national security by criticizing it?
we never lost a battle in vietnam??
Marion in Savannah @ 255
No apology necessary, hon. Many fine people in Ga.
{{{Marion in Savannah}}}
Dawn of the Dead re-runs on CNN. What gives? A late Halloween treat?
-GSD
TexBetsy @ 274
Just the war… ;-)
OMG McCain’s still fighting Vietnam. But I guess we already knew that.
McCain, “terrorist will follow us home”… audience booing…
Now McCain, whom I respected a moment ago on torture, is pissing me off.
McCain – we never lost a battle in Vietnam…after Nam, they didn’t want to follow us home…
Al-Qaeda wants to follow us home, there ultimate destination if NYC, Chicago….
People are booing and applauding….
So, Mr Romney, boxers, briefs, or Holy Underwear? And, what about that Angel Moroni stuff, and how the Law will come from Missouri?
‘eh?
Put any of these people up against Hillary, please.
Loo Hoo. @ 283
Edwards.
Ron Paul would keep the Internet free and clear of government regulation.
Cancel the Patriot Act.
Restore the Constitution literally and otherwise.
LS @ 282
can they find Chicago?
This ends in 20 min?
TexBetsy @ 284
Hear, hear. I’m for him too.
ccmask @ 261
The cheat sheet only says “Say anything but don’t mention current mistress in Florida“. So far it’s worked.
I never knew Al Qaeda wanted extend the Caliphate to Brooklyn and Chicago’s south side.
-GSD
Tancredo: Radical Islam!!! Be afraid!!!
Tancredo – we are threatened, we are not safe, radical, religious, islamic….they’re coming to kill us all…
neurophius @ 280
McCain is all in on continuing Bush’s draining of the treasury in favor of multi-national corporations.
Marion in Savannah @ 287
Amen. We’ll be canvasing for him on Saturday.
LS @ 291
Someone bring out the hook for that guy.
Cheers & jeers for Ron Paul on Iraq.
Re: Cofer Black. It’s Blackwater where’s he’s Vice Chairman. Now Black at Blackwater ought to be easy to remember, even for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cofer_Black
And you can feel every single minute.
Lab Partner @ 288
well.. if he gets cornered by a bad question he can always activate his own cell phone ringer and pretend his wife’s calling again. That was Rudy who did that, right?
Ron Paul is in my opinion, right about one thing, perhaps the only thing he is right about. That is, he wants us out of Iraq.
Ron Paul gets booed for telling the truth – that we’re illiegally occupying Iraq. Tancredo gets the save by ratcheting the fear back up – to huge cheers.
Who the hell are these people?
GSD @ 289
Apparently they’re doing a decent job in U.S. prisons.
eCAHNomics @ 295
And he’s also Romney’s terror advisor.
Rudy is quoting George Will praising him. Some recommendation!!!
David Ehrenstein @ 296
Every tortured moment… ;-)
jayt @ 299
they sure as hell ain’t firepups!
Giuliani: I helped stop illegal Haitian immigration into S. Florida…
-spew-…(sits up the straight)…WTF?
Tancreepo…..lives in fear of Al Qaeda…….pronounced Al Ki-Ade-A.
-GSD
LS @ 281
How to interpret that? Is it applauding the Vietnam assertion? (full-o-crap, of course) and booing the “will-follow-us-home” bull? Or something else?
Rudy ran the “3rd largest gov’t in this country”? errr… I suspect the governor of CA does that…
jayt @ 299
my parents
They asked Rudy about capitalizing on 9/11 but I want him asked about the radios and the command center.
LS @ 282
I am sure that is Sadr’s and the Sunni tribal sheik’s plan. They dream about coming over there and overthrowing the US after they kill the rather few but vicious things of Al Qaeda in Iraq, or Mess-o-ptamia, or whatever they call themselves.
McCain’s moment of sense and honor was brief and fleeting (which is the trouble with even the least worst of this miserable crew).
jayt @ 299
It’s like an entire political party was created out of peoples’ crazy relatives.
jayt @ 299
The 29 percenters…?
GSD @ 306
Al-Koolaid-a?
So sorry to hear it Blub.
So, no questions on teh ghey, then?
That’s something for a GOP debate, even though we’d know why one wasn’t asked.
Oh christ, Thompson wants “Cheney II” for VP
Blub @ 297
Oh gosh that would be so funny right about now. I’ll bet he has it on vibrate.
Blub @ 309
LOL.
Even mine weren’t that crazy. But my son is.
Giuliani’s wife still phoning him during these campaign things?
Thompson saying the VP has a place in the legislative branch and the executive branch. Any wonder that Matalin is supporting him? The executive Vice Presidency. Maybe Thompson would have Cheney as his running mate…
eCAHNomics @ 277
And the loss is the fault of the DFH’s.
McCain just called W an inexperienced doofus. Sweet.
Loo Hoo. @ 321
Now, THERE would be a ticket – dead and almost dead..
Fred Thompson is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Handsome.
-Margaret Carlson
Loo Hoo. @ 321
Thompson the Headless Thompson gunner.
Well… I knew this was coming. Lahoma wants to know who I think won this “debate”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 327
Democrats.
I love the Hunter picture of the “fence” along the Mexican border… funny, it doesn’t look like a pasture fence in that shot…
McCain: Bush was “elected” during a time of peace, but then 2001 happened, and he didn’t know anything about national security, and so he had to rely on the VP’s experience…that is clear.
Wait. I thought the VP wasn’t part of the executive branch. Now I’m confused.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 327
Mitt’s stylist.
wesgpc @ 320
question is, which wife?
“your check’s late again!”
PLovering @ 285
Literally unto which amendments? Just 1-10?
I agree with him on Iraq and the Patriot Act/illegal spying, but that’s all.
spit.
FunnyDiva
solai @ 322
I love DFHs.
Mary Cheney would be a great running mate for him.
(Especially if the rumors are true)
…when liberal judges tried to tear it down…? WTF?
Connecticut Bob @ 317
Excellent work from Thompson! Hope he keeps it up. Hope he names Cheney for his VP if he wins the nomination. If that is unconstitutional, then so much the better. I like they way these guys sound -so batshit insane that only the batshit insane would vote for them.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 327
The Democrats.
JulieWaters @ 329
Bingo.
smapdi @ 150
“He’s laborin’ under the impression/ That he’s God’s gift to women/ He says he can make her toes curl/ She says he only makes her skin crawl…”
McCain “won” in my opinion. Loser, but winner.
eCAHNomics @ 339
I was first :)
I can see why this format of debate was avoided so long by these guys… makes ‘em look just terrible!
Maybe Hillary will name Bill her VP.
Did CNN run the candidates commercials during the Dems debate? I didn’t watch it obviously, and have only caught about 5 min of this one.
Anderson Cooper:
Will the members of the audience please breathe though your noses. It is tough to hear the responses.
-GSD
This train wreck is the bestest ever!
CTuttle @ 313
Couldn’t we just give ‘em a state or something to keep them away from children, old people and the infirm? (might be a redundancy in there) A state that nobody’s using much? Montana? Maybe we could invade Nova Scotia and turn it over to them.
And then impose sanctions.
Blub @ 309
Sadly Blub,I’m with you. Mine too.
Is anyone watching this on CNN’s website. Who is the dufus CNN is putting on during the commercial breaks?
GSD @ 347
AHAHAHA!
Loo Hoo. @ 342
Ditto and ditto.
wesgpc @ 338
Hey, never underestimate the batshit crazy vote! Didn’t Jesse Ventura win in Minnesota?
Christian Leader?!
Keep up the theocracy talk and victory is ours!
JulieWaters @ 343
I went to get a beer.
Loo Hoo. @ 342
Did McCain have some opportunities to clench his teeth with his patented phony grin like he does on Jon Stewart?
Okay, I can’t take it any longer. My brain is full, and it’s not full of the good stuff, like creative puzzle ideas or visions of dancing lights. After almost two hours of this, it’s just full of muck.
Okay– Edwards ad on TV– I’ll let that be the last thing I see before turning it off :)
Teh Gay! Finally!
YEA! Brig. General Kerr asks about don’t ask, don’t tell!
Oh, chapeau to Anderson Cooper, because he picked that one himself.
eCAHNomics @ 356
I keep telling people that drinking slows their reflexes, but no one ever listens.
Loo Hoo. @ 343
I agree. I think Huckabee and Paul did well also. I’m really counting on Paul to start a civil war inside the Republican party. Something sane may result.
Everybody else called their dealer for some smack!
gays in the military question
hucksome other candidate— most people who join are conservativesConnecticut Bob @ 317
He actually just wants Cheney’s pacemaker. Thompson’s heart is like an ole pickup truck that slows down sometimes and needs a little jolt to get ‘er going.
Duncan, STFU! You are clueless…
Hunter doesn’t want to force soldiers with “conservative values” to serve with gays
Hunter, “Kids who serve are conservative.”
What about the conduct of a Mayor of the city that got wacked!!!
martha @ 350
well.. specifically, they’re pro-Rudy. He’s gonna do to the ‘rrerists and hurricanes what he did to muggers in NYC (they credit him with that too).
martha @ 350
Mine, thank heavens, are well into a Republican Recovery program at this point. I feel for ya, ’cause it wasn’t always so.
Hunter: Only concervatives, with Judeo-Christian tradition, serve in military so homosexuals would harm unit cohesion.
Didn’t they say the same about Negros?
I didn’t think it could get better but…Gay Brigadier General!? Bwahahahahaha!
Kudos to CNN for the cojones to pick that question and Anderson (also gay) to ask it
OldCoastie @ 369
Not with their lives.
Romney flip flops on gays. (Make your own joke)
TexBetsy @ 366
Like Corporal Matt Sanchez.
Recovering gay porn star and contributor to WorldnutDaily.
-GSD
so basically Brig. Gen. we hate you.
Did somebody say “Conservative Values”?
Mitt – flippity flopping around the DADT…
TexBetsy @ 284
ditto
These guys are big on “cohesion”…as opposed to allowing gays to serve in the military.
What is “cohesion”?
Finally. A question from a progressive standpoint. About gays in military.
Duncan….it would be bad
Huc…ditto
Mitt…..(I don’t know what he said)
Nancy would not allow it, because of the bad taste. But why not nominate Reagan? He would be better than these doofoids. Ike could be the VP, that would appeal to the moderate independents and the radical centrists suburban gun-moms. Nothing would get done at all the next term, them being dead and all, (that would be an improvement over now) and the corruption would be less.
I’ll dash off a note to the RNC. They’ll make me a consultant. Watch for me on the teevee. I could argue for the Reagaon and Ike ticket sincerely, at least over this mess.
oooo! the General comes out!
I love a bunch of people who didn’t serve in the military telling a general why people like the general shouldn’t be allowed to serve.
Go General!!
on edit: I’m hearing the crowd beginning to boo the evil-by-definition gay General. Fuckers.
OldCoastie @ 369
Hmmm… last I checked, I’m not conservative… Served proudly for twenty years…
Hunter: Kids who serve are good, conservative, Judeo-Christian men and women, and it’s wrong to force people like that to serve in the military with gays.
Wow, BG Keith Kerr is a brave man. Bravo.
Ouch, gay general. Here’s their kodak moment.
audience is having problems…
Gay veteran is giving them hell for their answers.
OldCoastie @ 345
Nah, it’s that they ARE just terrible and this format doesn’t give them any cover!
Me Like-ski!
FunnyDiva
Anal intercourse when you’re doing it right.
neurophius @ 383
That’s when one’s sexual organs stick to the covers.
wesgpc @ 384
well.. why not? If the dead can vote, why shouldn’t they be able to run too?
McCain is disagreeing but is at least respectful to the general.
they booed the gay general
Ah, the ol’ “ambush the bigots with a gay general” ploy. Love it!
TexBetsy @ 400
The gawdamn genrul is a homersexshul!
-GSD
Huckleberry would accept support from gays, he just wouldn’t give them anything they want.
hackworth @ 357
TexBetsy @ 399
nice, eh? serve your country, get booed by idiots.
RonD @ 389
I hope everybody realizes that he’s gonna drop the “Judeo” in a big way the moment he’s elected.
These people are sick.
Candidates to voters: Any fool is allowed to support us.
I wonder if they’ll get to a question about restoring the Constitution? Chris Dodd submitted one. I’d like to see them play it.
VictorLaszlo @ 400
Ol’? A rarity indeed… :P
seriously, Freddy hurts my eyes.
Blub @ 405
The Judeo- part isn’t nearly as anti-gay.
The general has useful skills, and made serious commitments to others in his life, so gets no respect from Mitt to Rudy, you can see it in their eyes, no matter how hard they try to pretend. He ain’t no money man. He wouldn’t sell his grandma.
Rudy is gay, isn’t he?
Thompson looks like the Crypt-Keeper in the early stages.
Who the heck are these people?
If this is the best the republican party has to offer who could possibly win the presidency?
Funnydiva2002 @ 335
Hillary and Giuliani would both go to war with Iran.
Ron Paul wins: point, set, and match.
follow hillary to the left??? ummmm. ummmmm. she ain’t that left!
Romney foaming at the mouth
TexBetsy @ 412
Many conservatives believe that Judeo means trained in martial arts.
RonD @ 415
You said it Ron.
Connecticut Bob @ 376
Romney wants to follow the path that Reagan blazed, and gets applause. Guess the Americans need some reminders about what Reagan did.
This would be the perfect moment for Anderson Cooper to come out.
Civil behavior @ 415
smarter ones are sitting this one out
Freddie – “Entitlements are making us go broke.”
Romney too.
Uh guys – there’s this little kerfuffle going on over in Iraq……
wesgpc @ 412
Heh, even a Special Forces officer… I guess it gives new meaning to ‘Special’…
David Ehrenstein @ 421
LOL!
Huckleberry supports funding for space program.
Has he, like Kucinich, seen a UFO?
C’mon, Anderson, ask him!!!
Political train wreck. The DNC should run this debate during the general election campaign. Just run the ‘best’ clips with a strip on the bottom that says “The Republican Party. Remember to vote against this in November.” Nothing else needed.
jayt @ 423
to which Halliburton and Blackwater are entitled…. he’s absolutely correct
putting Hillary on the first rocket to Mars??? Ack!
John Edwards wins!
Huckabee: “Maybe Hillary can be on the first rocket to Mars.”
I love this audience. They scream and applaud for diametrically opposed positions. Special.
solai @ 384
Ooh, can’t wait to see Scott at BillinExile’s takedown of this part of the debate! (Imagine if TRex was a bad-ass former marine, that’s what it’ll be like!) Site is NSFW but Scott writes a mean essay when he gets going.
FunnyDiva
Smarter ones are sitting this one out????
Who?
CTuttle @ 388
Check again. Maybe you missed something!
Tancredo: Everyone wants to be everything to all people, but I wasnt to be nothing to nobody.
He seems to be succeeding.
jayt @ 424
Its them godd*mn Welfare Queens in Cadill*cs that are draining the treasury again.
Huckabee right on the space program. Well, up to the Hillary joke.
Tancredo against $16 billion dollar (2 months of iraq) nasa budget- cant afford mars.
solai @ 36
No, but he is neck and neck with Tancredo for last place.
RonD @ 389
Curiously, teh ghey doesn’t get you out of your compulsory IDF service.
Stony-faced look from audience regarding minorities, classic.
texas kid with confederate flag on the wall. what is it a symbol of?
Rudy is telling the African American voter that he should be attracted to Republicans because Republicans are good for education–just 35 minutes after someone else on stage said without objection that the Department of Education ought to be abolished.
Robert Paehlke @ 440
so once he loses, won’y he have to run against his son for the Congressional seat he tried to nepotistically will him, to clear his path for his imminent rise to the presidency?
It just occurred to me that when asked the Q about why gays should vote for them, they missed the A, which is: Because there are so many of you hidden in our party.
Ewww.
TexBetsy @ 443
Conservative values.
Romney is really pissed off that John Edwards says there are two Americas. TOUGH TALK, ROMS.
Romney:”Democrats are dividing and tearing down this country.”
Why don’t African American’s vote for your party Rudy? Because all you could come up with was bad schools and welfare when asked.
freddie punting the flag issue
new thread upstairs
Waffling on the Stars and Bars…. Priceless.
TexBetsy @ 444
Being a fuckwit?
wesgpc @ 385
Because they’re both either embalmed or long-decomposed?
FunnyDiva
Leroy from Texas!! Got himself a Confederate flag!! Question “Do you, or do you not, love my flag?”
Willard – Nope
Freddie – sort of…
hackworth @ 448
An inability to learn new lessons.
TexBetsy @ 444
Your son?
Is this debate ever going to end?
Loo Hoo. @ 459
HELL NO!
duck @ 444
Moderators never let Democrats get away with this crap. Democrats would be pounded relentlessly on such glaring inconsistency.
My dog can give more intelligent answers than this sorry bunch.
Who would want any of these characters as president? yuck!
I wonder how gay conservative generals sporting the stars and bars would go over with this crowd?
The whole party platform is a bridge to nowhere.
McCain will take out his veto pen and veto wasted money. Interesting that he hold up a Sharpee pen, which is what Bush has always used.
So tired of this pork barrell talk if you’re not acknowledging the cost of the war. Or the tax cuts
Kwai Me a Bridge
PLovering @ 417
But NOT the gd Oval Office, please GOD. Call me selfish, I don’t want domestic policy to be as huge a disaster as ME policy has been.
spit
FunnyDiva
TexBetsy @ 462
Well, I worried. Who then?
solai @ 469
Or how Bush ballooned the national deficit with the connivance of Congressional Republicans.
Loo Hoo. @ 471
The kid on youtube.
Rudy is talking sports. What a regular guy!
Your son?
Link to the new thread upstairs
I’m unhappy it’s over, I think this should be on every night.
My son is a fine upstanding liberal who got in trouble at school right after the 2004 election for explaining how Bush stole the election in Ohio and how he shouldn’t get inaugurated. It was one of my proudest moments.
TexBetsy @ 479
As it should have, Betsy, as it should have.
I’m looking forward to visiting you in Cassie’s “kitchen” cabinet or TexTeens Senate office when they take over (if there’s anything left for them to take over).
FunnyDiva
TexBetsy @ 479
You obviously raised him right.
What happened? Suspension? On what excuse?
Not suspended. They just called me in. Answers in class were supposed to be from the info the teacher gave them and not from mom’s crazy liberal radio network.
I took him straight from school to the ice cream shop and let him buy a 2-scoop sundae.
Old news but…
St. Rudy de la 911 did his Booty Calls on Taxpayer Money and Rudy’s Secret Client List–the 3rd rail he doesn’t want to touch is chock full of terrorists and terrrrrisssst backers:
How St. Roody da la 911 Paid for Booty Calls to Joody
Roody de la 911 Fights Terrrrrrrrissssts ‘Cept When Money Be Involved
New Yorkers Pay “Dearly” for St. Roody de 911’s Joody Booty on da Side–”Affair or not so Fair Tax”