And a really tall order here:

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JERUSALEM (AP) — If Israelis and Palestinians have any hope of achieving their stated goal of signing a final peace treaty within a year, they may have to slice Jerusalem in half with a wall, come up with $85 billion for Palestinian refugees and figure out how to wrest control of the Gaza Strip from Hamas.

They’ll also have to agree on which territory Israel should give to a future Palestine in exchange for being allowed to keep major settlement blocs in the West Bank. And if they decide not to divide Jerusalem, they’ll have to determine how to share it while avoiding the potential security nightmare of an open border.

Sounds like the same old Israeli crap they’ve been offering for years. It’ll be rejected if the Palestinians have even a scintilla of self-respect left.

How can you divvy up a religious city? Can you divide up a religion?

How can you ask the Palestinians to accept Jewish settlements on their territory?

Garbage. The Israelis need to decide whether they’re serious or just sadists.

If they want peace they have to get rid of the settlements altogether.

If they want peace they have to open up Jerusalem in some way. I’d suggest making it an international city, open to everyone and governed by less fanatical people.

Steve-AR @ 74

She wondered, Would Mr. Romney’s prayers “even get through”?

Only the telecoms and the NSA know for sure, and have the tapes to prove it.

He could ask Dubya. Apparently God has been talking to him for quite some time. Or, has God stopped talking to him since the Iraq war isn’t going so well.

thanx Brendan et al. I will read and learn.

The partition issue reminds me of another question I wanted to ask: why does Joe Biden get no love ’round here?

Heard him last night on teevee and speechifyin’ this morning on CSpan, and he does sound impressive…. plus my impression has always been that he’s a principled, if long winded sort of guy.

However, I am open to contrary ideas, that is why I ask.

He’s preachy (as is Kucinich), doesn’t always commit and instead says, ‘if you really want to do that’, his plagiarism ended his ‘88 campaign (or was it ‘92), perhaps some corporate ties we don’t need in a president and, to me most important, doesn’t really have a unified vision what what he would do as president.

Somehow neither Biden nor Dodd really attract listeners. I’m not sure why but it’s true. They get elected as senators, but presidential they’re not. Still, I like Dodd for veep.

However, either Biden or Dodd would beat Hillary on the ‘experience’ issue and neither leaves you feeling queasy the way she does.

I think that about covers it, except, the democrats seem to be perfectly willing to let bush and the warpimps pass them the handgrenade; and without even making an issue for the voters of who it was that pulled the pin before the handoff.

Sickening.

So George and Dick and the warmongering types decided to cock that but good and go with the “Saddam has WMDs and is OBL’s friend” so he is going down line?

Of course the Americans wanted Iraq to be free and they were bringing ‘deemockrassy’ to Iraq.

And Americans are always good and never do war crime stuff nor meddle nor rig the game…right?

And invading Iraq,occupying Iraq and putting in those super-bases had nothing to do with Iraqi oil right?

And we will not try to stay on in Iraq to “rig the regime” to suit American oil interests will we?

What permanent super-bases and fortress embassy?

Oil had nothing to do with it.

Absolutely nothing.

‘Overwatch’? ‘Stay-on signing agreements’?

When Iraq stands up we will sit down.

Actually we plan on a long ’sit in Iraq’ no matter what Iraq does or does not.

Iraq is not “ready” to rule itself.

I see.

I don’t think that there is any certainty as to where the original temples stood or whether or not the dome of the rock is on top of that site.

The “Wailing Wall” where Jews pray IS the Western Wall of the Second Temple (King Herod). Tradition says the first Temple was built by Solomon, and was on the site currently occupied by the Dome of the Rock mosque (also the site of the Second Temple).

The Muslims claim that Mohammed departed for Heaven (on the back of a winged horse) from Dome of the Rock…

This is really disgusting. Scooter gets convicted, skates, and now is allowed to get rich off of Shock Doctrine bullshit.

We’re not run by idiots, it’s a criminal conspiracy.

Didn’t Scooter have to surrender his law license as a result of his conviction?

Just curious,
-S

I could have sworn this, “…look which bad pennies turned up …” was this, ” …look which bad pen*ses turned up ….”

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Damn, Baker Botts has their hand in all the lucrative pies, doesn’t it?