what the heck…

Z?

Cool video, RBG. Where did you find that

dang.

RBG!

Dang, RBG! It’s becoming a routine… *g*

RBG!

Hey, neighbor, up late again, I see…

FunnyD

I just finished brushing the cat fur off after roflmao after reading this

Mommybrain @ 8

I just finished brushing the cat fur off after roflmao after reading this

only into the first paragraph and i’m already spewing about the little f-16’s in the pants.

Wow…now I actually know what a guest poster must feel like when they can’t answer the questions fast enough.

Laura Doty @ 5

RBG!

And where have you been ma’am? I was about to dust off my face book page and send out an SOS..)

Mommybrain @ 8

I just finished brushing the cat fur off after roflmao after reading this

And I’m LMAO because I’ve thought EXACTLY that reading that little “monthly fortune”. Nice to know I’m crazy in a way similar to a very brilliant satirist!.

FunnyD

did anyone tell downstairs?

Suzanne @ 13

did anyone tell downstairs?

I did.

thanks you es

RBG @ 10

Wow…now I actually know what a guest poster must feel like when they can’t answer the questions fast enough.

Hah! And you weren’t even trying to keep up with the Gooper debate threads below. _I_ couldn’t keep up as a commenter, that’s for sure.

FunnyD

Any chance of getting TRex’s new digs added to the blogroll?

MaxRoach/Deeds not Words

Funnydiva2002 @ 7

RBG!

Hey, neighbor, up late again, I see…

FunnyD

Hey, you. Saw you in the comments this afternoon. Was gonna chime in but didn’t want any distractions while doing my nails.

Mommybrain @ 8

I just finished brushing the cat fur off after roflmao after reading this

lol!

“Put Down the Hammer”

RBG @ 18

Funnydiva2002 @ 7

RBG!

Hey, neighbor, up late again, I see…

FunnyD

Hey, you. Saw you in the comments this afternoon. Was gonna chime in but didn’t want any distractions while doing my nails.

At least you have nails to “do”. Mine are hopeless, even when short.

Yeah, I had a fun day commenting. Didn’t get anything else done, but it was fun. Except for getting up to feed the cat at 7pm and realizing I hadn’t really eaten or drunk anything since mid-morning. (and that only because I was lightheaded and unsteady!).

FunnyD
Must *poof* now, this time for realzies!

*waving g’nite to the sleepy pups leaving*

Suzanne @ 3

Cool video, RBG. Where did you find that

Saw them at this little festival this summer and thought they had great energy.

most excellent. had never heard of em before tonight.

wow! great music RBG. And i still say you’re colorful *g*

tw3k @ 19

Mommybrain @ 8

I just finished brushing the cat fur off after roflmao after reading this

lol!

“Put Down the Hammer”

Hey tw3k…remember this?

This could prove to be interesting.

Judge: Feds Must Release Telecom Records

By KIM CURTIS – 10 hours ago
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — An electronic privacy group challenging President Bush’s domestic spying program scored a minor victory when a judge ordered the federal government to release information about lobbying efforts by telecommunications companies to protect them from prosecution.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation in January 2006 filed a class-action suit against AT&T Inc., accusing the company of illegally making communications on its networks available to the National Security Agency without warrants.

ES, I hear that the vote may come before the release of the lobbying efforts to what congresscritters.

RBG @ 25

tw3k @ 19

lol!

Hey tw3k…remember this?

yeah

Eureka Springs @ 27

This could prove to be interesting.

Judge: Feds Must Release Telecom Records

By KIM CURTIS – 10 hours ago
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — An electronic privacy group challenging President Bush’s domestic spying program scored a minor victory when a judge ordered the federal government to release information about lobbying efforts by telecommunications companies to protect them from prosecution.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation in January 2006 filed a class-action suit against AT&T Inc., accusing the company of illegally making communications on its networks available to the National Security Agency without warrants.

We can sure hope. I tell you it has been discouraging waiting for the scandal that finally bring this national nightmare to an end.

Telecom spying sure should be the one to put impeachment back “on the table”.

Eureka Springs @ 27

This could prove to be interesting.

Judge: Feds Must Release Telecom Records

By KIM CURTIS – 10 hours ago
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — An electronic privacy group challenging President Bush’s domestic spying program scored a minor victory when a judge ordered the federal government to release information about lobbying efforts by telecommunications companies to protect them from prosecution.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation in January 2006 filed a class-action suit against AT&T Inc., accusing the company of illegally making communications on its networks available to the National Security Agency without warrants.

That’s a bit more than a “minor” victory.
Thanks!

from the link:

The Electronic Frontier Foundation in January 2006 filed a class-action suit against AT&T Inc., accusing the company of illegally making communications on its networks available to the National Security Agency without warrants.

i heart EFF

Well they had best get back to DC and vote. CNET has this.

Bush administration forced to turn over spying documents by Friday
Posted by Declan McCullagh

A federal judge has ordered the Bush administration to divulge documents related to immunizing telecommunications companies from lawsuits, saying they illegally opened their networks to the National Security Agency.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston in San Francisco gave the Office of the Director of National Intelligence until November 30 (Friday) to turn over documents relating to conversations it had with Congress and telecommunications carriers about how to rewrite wiretapping laws.

Eureka Springs @ 26

This could prove to be interesting.

Judge: Feds Must Release Telecom Records

By KIM CURTIS – 10 hours ago
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — An electronic privacy group challenging President Bush’s domestic spying program scored a minor victory when a judge ordered the federal government to release information about lobbying efforts by telecommunications companies to protect them from prosecution.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation in January 2006 filed a class-action suit against AT&T Inc., accusing the company of illegally making communications on its networks available to the National Security Agency without warrants.

Pdf here

Suzanne @ 28

ES, I hear that the vote may come before the release of the lobbying efforts to what congresscritters.

But they are going to be in a major maelstrom either way. If they were lobbied ($$$) heavily by the telecoms they face the wrath of voters, particularly if the contents of those lobbying efforts are suggestive of bribery.

The fact that the Judge ruled on this now may give many of those lobbied second thoughts about what they did. By voting against immunity they will appear to have no quid pro quo. The Telecoms and Congresscritters needed the identities and contents of these efforts to go undisclosed.

Eureka Springs @ 33

Well they had best get back to DC and vote. CNET has this.

Bush administration forced to turn over spying documents by Friday
Posted by Declan McCullagh

A federal judge has ordered the Bush administration to divulge documents related to immunizing telecommunications companies from lawsuits, saying they illegally opened their networks to the National Security Agency.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston in San Francisco gave the Office of the Director of National Intelligence until November 30 (Friday) to turn over documents relating to conversations it had with Congress and telecommunications carriers about how to rewrite wiretapping laws.

Damn, That’s the one I’ve eagerly anticipated… Yee-Haw… Pass the Popcorn…!

cinnamonape @ 34

Suzanne @ 28

ES, I hear that the vote may come before the release of the lobbying efforts to what congresscritters.

But they are going to be in a major maelstrom either way. If they were lobbied ($$$) heavily by the telecoms they face the wrath of voters, particularly if the contents of those lobbying efforts are suggestive of bribery.

The fact that the Judge ruled on this now may give many of those lobbied second thoughts about what they did. By voting against immunity they will appear to have no quid pro quo. The Telecoms and Congresscritters needed the identities and contents of these efforts to go undisclosed.

well that is what they should do but.. these are goopers and bushdogs and lawd only knows what those forkers will do

tw3k @ 34

Eureka Springs @ 26

This could prove to be interesting.

Pdf here

Marys comment just below the link you posted is very good.

Now we get to see if the WH will ignore a court order as readily as a congressional subpeona.

And will the court roll over as easy as congress if they do choose to ignore it?

I think I’m gonna get some extra butter for the popcorn next time I go to the store. Looks like tomorrow may be a good time to stock up.

What are you listening to tonight?

Thelma Houston, and mourning divas. Not in a sad mood, just feel like listening to divas wail tonight.

Smgumby @ 39

Now we get to see if the WH will ignore a court order as readily as a congressional subpeona.

And will the court roll over as easy as congress if they do choose to ignore it?

Federal District court. Mukasey is on-deck.

newtonusr @ 42

Smgumby @ 39

Now we get to see if the WH will ignore a court order as readily as a congressional subpeona.

And will the court roll over as easy as congress if they do choose to ignore it?

Federal District court. Mukasey is on-deck.

Heh, “…and in this corner, we have…” Ding, Ding… ;-)

Eureka Springs @ 37

tw3k @ 34

Pdf here

Marys comment just below the link you posted is very good.

Sure is.

i love mary’s comments.. legal p*rn for the brain

newtonusr @ 42

Smgumby @ 39

Now we get to see if the WH will ignore a court order as readily as a congressional subpeona.

And will the court roll over as easy as congress if they do choose to ignore it?

Federal District court. Mukasey is on-deck.

Oh, well if Mukasey is on the job we have nothing to worry about! *gulp*

Mary’s comment:

Mary @ 110

101 – WOOT WOOT WOOT! That’s nice info.

Bc of the historical Church Committee references in the post – here’s some history on the Keith Case, where Gov asserted their warrantless (illegal) wiretaps should be protected (stop me if this sounds familiary) as a state secret. [I put some of this up at in a comment at The Next Hurrah awhile back]
http://www.mied.uscourts.gov/h…..spdf/Court Legacy 11-03.pdf

When the defense made a request for any surveillance tapes,

… the government’s “bricks and mortar” case suffered its first real set back. In response to the defense/prosecution stipulation, Attorney General Mitchell filed a sworn affidavit with the court stating that: Defendant Plamondon has participated in conversations which were overheard by government agents who were monitoring wiretaps which were being employed to gather intelligence information deemed necessary to protect the nation from attempts of domestic organizations to attack and subvert the existing structure of government.

Accompanying this affidavit, sealed records and files were submitted for the review and inspection of the Court in camera. Simultaneously, the government filed a motion to dismiss the defendants’ request for disclosure of the surveillance evidence. In his affidavit and in the government’s brief, the Attorney General certified that public disclosure of the facts concerning surveillance of the defendants would prejudice the national interest, …

In his decision granting the defendants’ motion to disclose government surveillance, Judge Keith rejected the government’s position, known as the “Mitchell Doctrine,” which asserted that the Attorney General, as a representative of the Executive Branch, had the inherent constitutional power both to authorize electronic surveillance in “national security” cases without judicial warrant and to unilaterally determine whether
a particular circumstance falls within the scope of a “national security” concern.

Just remember – the denial of the Mitchell Doctrine has been to the Sup Ct and is precedent.

The Sup Ct. has looked at the balancing of an invocation by an AG of state secrets based on national security concerns v. a court’s examination of the illegal or unconstitutional activities of the Executive Branch making that assertion, and said nah – you can’t break the law (or violate the Constitution) and then escape judicial review merely by classifying your actions as secret. That’s the Keith case to a T.

It even had the arguments of “don’t all these domestic activities tie to foreign power threats and make it foreign and more exclusively Executive Branch” that DOJ is claiming now.

http://www.time.com/time/magaz…..-1,00.html

The tap was perfectly legal, they said, even though it had been installed without a judicial warrant, because warrants are not necessary in cases involving a threat to “national security.” This is true not only for the traditional danger from a foreign power, the Justice Department maintains, but also for the security threat posed by the current radical protest movement. Besides, the Government said, the overheard conversations had nothing to do with the bombing charges, and the tap was on the phone of another organization, not the White Panthers.
…
In his argument to the Supreme Court last week, U.S. Solicitor General Erwin Griswold insisted that radical protests within the U.S. are “interrelated” with security threats from abroad. The Government was merely gathering intelligence to protect the nation, he said, not deliberately seeking evidence for criminal prosecutions. If each case had to be submitted to a judge to get a warrant, Griswold added, “the Government would have to disclose sensitive and highly secret information.” Judges, he said, are not as qualified as the Attorney General to make the “subtle inferences” involved. Even though the Attorney General might abuse his power, that “is not a valid basis for denying [him] the authority.”

One more resources, just to give some flavor:

http://www.nlgchicago.org/us-v-dist-ct.shtml

Responding to defense motions, the government admitted that they had obtained evidence from a bugged phone, and that there was no warrant. While defense lawyers and Judge Damon J. Keith sat open-mouthed, the government tendered an affidavit from the attorney general, John Mitchell — soon to be of Watergate infamy. Mitchell stated in writing that he, on behalf of the president, had the authority to order wiretaps without judicial approval to “protect the nation from attempts of domestic organizations to attack and subvert the government.”
…

By itself, this case might have been a weird wrinkle in turbulent times. When comparing notes nationally, though, progressive defense lawyers realized there was a pattern. Mitchell had done the same thing in the Chicago 7 / 8 case [internal link] and in a Black Panther trial in California. Something was up. The attorneys came to a conclusion that shocked them: The Justice Department was openly demanding judicial approval of a scheme in which the president alone, without legislative advice or consent, without judicial oversight, decided when the Bill of Rights [internal link] would be suspended, and which citizens’ rights would be overborne. The designation “subversive” would not be defined. “Probable cause,” the ancient, Constitutional requirement, would not be shown. The lawyers were aghast not only at the arrogance of the government’s position. They feared that the government might win. Mitchell’s Justice Department would not have opted for this strategy — no longer denying the illegal bugs, but admitting them, and telling the courts to find them legal — unless they were confident in their position.

There was also the constant drumbeat of those who objected to the war being cast as the enemy themselves and this was mentioned in oral argument:

He said that two weeks previously, a Nixon administration official (H.R. Haldeman, though Kinoy didn’t name him) had claimed that the Democrats were giving “aid and comfort to the enemy.” Under the government’s scheme, such a designation would open even the political party out of power to warrantless eavesdropping by whoever held the White House.

We’ve been here before.

my bold on the last line

Masharrif sworn in as Civilian President

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf was sworn in for a second term on Thursday, but this time as a civilian leader a day after quitting as army chief and fulfilling a promise many Pakistanis doubted he would keep.

Abdul Hameed Dogar, the chief justice Musharraf hand-picked after purging the Supreme Court when he imposed emergency rule on Nov. 3, administered the oath to Musharraf, who was wearing a traditional sherwani tunic.

Interesting Gimmick..take Bush’s advice and remove the military uniform.

I hope there was not a photo op for his removing his uniform. yuck and let me add, ick

so, what happens when boosh is presented with a valid court order he doesn’t like? does he ignore it? if so, what then?

i don’t think they can frog march boosh out of his office and into the hoosgow for contempt of court – or can they – for ignoring a court order?

Suzanne @ 50

so, what happens when boosh is presented with a valid court order he doesn’t like? does he ignore it? if so, what then?

Higher court?

Suzanne @ 50

so, what happens when boosh is presented with a valid court order he doesn’t like? does he ignore it? if so, what then?

Uh, Clinton did it… Ooh, the irony… *g*

CT, wasn’t that a civil court decision? this is criminal lcourt iirc, since it involves warrants – not civil.

Suzanne @ 54

CT, wasn’t that a civil court decision? this is criminal lcourt iirc, since it involves warrants – not civil.

True, Precedence is set at a lower bar… ;-)

Within minutes of Musarrif’s news.. The Shock Doctoring kicks back in.

Protesting Pakistani lawyers clash with police

LAHORE, Pakistan, Nov 29 (Reuters) – Pakistani lawyers protesting against President Pervez Musharraf clashed with police in the city of Lahore on Thursday, as Musharraf was being sworn in for a new term in the capital.

“Our battle is to block military intervention forever,” said Syed Mohammad, president of the Lahore bar association, as lawyers and police started throwing stones at each other.

Police used batons in an unsuccessful attempt to disperse about 200 protesting lawyers, at least one of whom was hurt.

Black-suited lawyers have been at the forefront of opposition to Musharraf, who stepped down as army chief on Wednesday, since he tried to dismiss the country’s chief justice in March. (Reporting by Kamran Haider; Editing by Robert Birsel)

CTuttle @ 6

Dang, RBG! It’s becoming a routine… *g*

Just helping out where I can. I would have replied earlier but it took awhile to find this.

RBG @ 57

CTuttle @ 6

Dang, RBG! It’s becoming a routine… *g*

Just helping out where I can. I would have replied earlier but it took awhile to find this.

aw.. ct’s first comment at the lake.

hey ct, what happened? that comment was on topic AND informative (ducking)

RBG @ 57

CTuttle @ 6

Dang, RBG! It’s becoming a routine… *g*

Just helping out where I can. I would have replied earlier but it took awhile to find this.

Hmmm… Awhile back! Do ya have our agreement enshrined… *g*

Hmmm… Awhile back! Do ya have our agreement enshrined… *g

you talking about that thread he has printed out and hanging on his office wall?

March ‘07.. He’s a firepup alright. *g*

newbie

Suzanne @ 58

RBG @ 57

Just helping out where I can. I would have replied earlier but it took awhile to find this.

aw.. ct’s first comment at the lake.

hey ct, what happened? that comment was on topic AND informative (ducking)

Dang, Was it? I’d must’ve lurked for a long time then… *g*

Eureka Springs @ 48

Masharrif sworn in as Civilian President

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf was sworn in for a second term on Thursday, but this time as a civilian leader a day after quitting as army chief and fulfilling a promise many Pakistanis doubted he would keep.

Abdul Hameed Dogar, the chief justice Musharraf hand-picked after purging the Supreme Court when he imposed emergency rule on Nov. 3, administered the oath to Musharraf, who was wearing a traditional sherwani tunic.

Interesting Gimmick..take Bush’s advice and remove the military uniform.

on the TRNN
Musharaff loses uniform, stays in power

Beena Sarwar: Musharaff’s actions are symbolic, it’s martial law in disguise

Suzanne @ 50

so, what happens when boosh is presented with a valid court order he doesn’t like? does he ignore it? if so, what then?

The general’s uniform was so cold war *g

Oh, my. The EEF is good. The deadline to turn over documents is Friday?

Ok, we know the docs won’t be turned over on time, but this sounds like it’s heating up. Perhaps this federal judge will assert her authority more forcefully than congress. Ahem.

CTuttle @ 59

RBG @ 57

Just helping out where I can. I would have replied earlier but it took awhile to find this.

Hmmm… Awhile back! Do ya have our agreement enshrined… *g*

That might take even longer to find…I seem to have this short term memory problem.

Edit; but word is that Suzanne doesn’t suffer from the same malady.

i wonder if boosh is planning on borrowing that there uniform now that musharaff no longer needs it. i do think that musharaff is doing what boosh wants to do here.

RBG,

Georges Collinet has played Zap Mama on Afropop a couple of times to illustrate musical cross pollination. They’re from Belgium, which is sorta weird, huh? First time I’ve seen them. Thanks!

RBG @ 67

CTuttle @ 59

Hmmm… Awhile back! Do ya have our agreement enshrined… *g*

That might take even longer to find…I seem to have this short term memory problem.

Edit; but word is that Suzanne doesn’t suffer from the same malady.

nope. ya’ll forget that i was a highly trained professional observer in my former occupation

hey et… hows alaska today? i really thought there would be an indictment by now up there of the stevens clan…

RBG @ 67

CTuttle @ 59

Hmmm… Awhile back! Do ya have our agreement enshrined… *g*

That might take even longer to find…I seem to have this short term memory problem.

Edit; but word is that Suzanne doesn’t suffer from the same malady.

That she doesn’t… chillingly so…! ;-)

Ed*ard Teller @ 69

RBG,

Georges Collinet has played Zap Mama on Afropop a couple of times to illustrate musical cross pollination. They’re from Belgium, which is sorta weird, huh? First time I’ve seen them. Thanks!

I’d have to dig for a bit but I vaguely remember that immigration is how some of them ended up in Belgium.

ct, just imagine me as a pissed off wife. now imagine me as a pissed off ex wife. now multiply by two.

Hi all. I came up with a cover design for Time magazine’s next issue. What do you think? Too brazen?

Cujo359 @ 75

Hi all. I came up with a cover design for Time magazine’s next issue. What do you think? Too brazen?

truth in advertising!

RBG @ 73

Ed*ard Teller @ 69

RBG,

Georges Collinet has played Zap Mama on Afropop a couple of times to illustrate musical cross pollination. They’re from Belgium, which is sorta weird, huh? First time I’ve seen them. Thanks!

I’d have to dig for a bit but I vaguely remember that immigration is how some of them ended up in Belgium

The roots of their music are from the Congo. I’ve noticed several riffs in stuff I’ve heard, and now the clip you’ve posted, that remind me of the long out-of-print Ocora album, Musique Kongo, which was the inspiration for a couple of the songs on Herbie Hancock’s “Headhunters.”

Ed*ard Teller @ 69

RBG,

Georges Collinet has played Zap Mama on Afropop a couple of times to illustrate musical cross pollination. They’re from Belgium, which is sorta weird, huh? First time I’ve seen them. Thanks!

Not a whole lot wierder than how all those white kids in England adopted the blues once upon a time, I suppose.

Cujo359 @ 75

Hi all. I came up with a cover design for Time magazine’s next issue. What do you think? Too brazen?

I like it a lot. :)

Cujo359 @ 75

Hi all. I came up with a cover design for Time magazine’s next issue. What do you think? Too brazen?

i like the youTube interface as a monitor

Cujo359 @ 78

Ed*ard Teller @ 69

RBG,

Georges Collinet has played Zap Mama on Afropop a couple of times to illustrate musical cross pollination. They’re from Belgium, which is sorta weird, huh? First time I’ve seen them. Thanks!

Not a whole lot wierder than how all those white kids in England adopted the blues once upon a time, I suppose.

like this one?

Cujo359 @ 75

Hi all. I came up with a cover design for Time magazine’s next issue. What do you think? Too brazen?

Excellent. (From the person of the year)

tw3k @ 80

Cujo359 @ 75

Hi all. I came up with a cover design for Time magazine’s next issue. What do you think? Too brazen?

i like the youTube interface as a monitor

Actually, it’s a slight edit of one of their past covers about the Internet. The words that don’t quite look right are the ones I added/edited.

Wish I could claim credit for the YouTube thing, but it’s way beyond my cut-n-paste abilities.

Suzanne @ 74

ct, just imagine me as a pissed off wife. now imagine me as a pissed off ex wife. now multiply by two.

Don’t go all algebra on me with ‘X’ and all… ;-)

Suzanne @ 81

Cujo359 @ 78

Not a whole lot wierder than how all those white kids in England adopted the blues once upon a time, I suppose.

like this one?

Yes, along with Jeff Beck, the Stones and, of all people, Tom Jones. Saw them on a PBS special “Martin Scorcese’s The Blues” or something like that. Wish I’d been able to record it.

Suzanne @ 81

Cujo359 @ 78

Not a whole lot wierder than how all those white kids in England adopted the blues once upon a time, I suppose.

like this one?

*sigh* He was a Canuck, Suz… :P

i watched that scorcese, cujo. just got done watch the 2007 clapton crossroads guitar festival (from chicago this year) on pbs – love them pledge breaks – all kinda good music on them (at least here in nor/central calif)

CTuttle @ 84

Suzanne @ 74

ct, just imagine me as a pissed off wife. now imagine me as a pissed off ex wife. now multiply by two.

Don’t go all algebra on me with ‘X’ and all… ;-)

More than one Y and you’ll have a co-dependent variable.

Ha! I just read this comment on the AR Times blog.. Anti Huckster Central..

Republican debate looked like a funeral except with booing.

Goodnight firedog freedom fighters.

CTuttle @ 86

Suzanne @ 81

like this one?

*sigh* He was a Canuck, Suz… :P

wiki says born surry england ct

Suzanne @ 87

i watched that scorcese, cujo. just got done watch the 2007 clapton crossroads guitar festival (from chicago this year) on pbs – love them pledge breaks – all kinda good music on them (at least here in nor/central calif)

I’ll have to watch for that up here. We have two different PBS stations in this area, and they don’t have their pledge breaks simultaneously. I saw a Crossroads concert from a couple of years ago, and it was terrific.

Cujo359 @ 78

Ed*ard Teller @ 69

RBG,

Georges Collinet has played Zap Mama on Afropop a couple of times to illustrate musical cross pollination. They’re from Belgium, which is sorta weird, huh? First time I’ve seen them. Thanks!

Not a whole lot wierder than how all those white kids in England adopted the blues once upon a time, I suppose.

Like these boys…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evpMKx5nrfY

Suzanne @ 90

CTuttle @ 86

*sigh* He was a Canuck, Suz… :P

wiki says born surry england ct

And he has a rather strong English accent ;)

clapton’s father was from montreal but ec was born in england

ct, is there an hawaiian or canadian word that means eating crow?

Suzanne @ 90

CTuttle @ 86

*sigh* He was a Canuck, Suz… :P

wiki says born surry england ct

Okay, Canadian Father, tho… I’d read he was Canadian… Live and learn… ;-)

Don’t think there’s any question about the nationality of this video’s singer.

Suzanne @ 95

ct, is there an hawaiian or canadian word that means eating crow?

Mmmf… Caw? ;-)

CTuttle @ 92

Cujo359 @ 78

Not a whole lot wierder than how all those white kids in England adopted the blues once upon a time, I suppose.

Like these boys…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evpMKx5nrfY

For the definitive English kids singing American blues, there’s this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGBFUCKENoM

eric burton forkin rocks the blues, thanks, cujo

Cujo359 @ 99

CTuttle @ 92

Like these boys…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evpMKx5nrfY

For the definitive English kids singing American blues, there’s this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGBFUCKENoM

Nice…it doesn’t get much better than that.

Cujo359 @ 99

CTuttle @ 92

Like these boys…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evpMKx5nrfY

For the definitive English kids singing American blues, there’s this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGBFUCKENoM

Heh, Nawlins’ national anthem… *g*

Howza’bout these boyz…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZtbqoMP9Xs

what if the beatles were irish?

Smgumby @ 30

Eureka Springs @ 27

This could prove to be interesting.

We can sure hope. I tell you it has been discouraging waiting for the scandal that finally bring this national nightmare to an end.

Telecom spying sure should be the one to put impeachment back “on the table”.

Who the f*ck is Nancy Pelosi to suspend a portion of the Constitution of the United States of America, which she is sworn to uphold? If she can take impeachment off the table, why can Bush take presidential elections off the table?

Another funky DC5 tune…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

CTuttle @ 103

Howza’bout these boyz…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZtbqoMP9Xs

Pretty good. I just love looking at these videos, even with the so-so sound on most of them.

The third click got me to these guys, who were also on that Scorcese special:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwGL5LDb4u8

Suzanne @ 104

what if the beatles were irish?

They’d be really funny.

ct, you are showing your age (wink)

Cujo359 @ 107

CTuttle @ 103

Howza’bout these boyz…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZtbqoMP9Xs

Pretty good. I just love looking at these videos, even with the so-so sound on most of them.

The third click got me to these guys, who were also on that Scorcese special:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwGL5LDb4u8

I was fortunate enough to see Mayall here at the Kona Surf Amphitheater, he can play!

Cujo359 @ 107

CTuttle @ 103

Howza’bout these boyz…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZtbqoMP9Xs

Pretty good. I just love looking at these videos, even with the so-so sound on most of them.

The third click got me to these guys, who were also on that Scorcese special:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwGL5LDb4u8

oh baby! this is great.. thanks – of my favs! i am so loving having DSL and playing utubes in the threads instead of the next day when they have all loaded up.

Suzanne @ 109

ct, you are showing your age (wink)

There’s that newbie inference again… :P

Well, Ma Cheri and Ya’ll, I shall bid a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

g’nite ct and aloha..

Yes, I think it’s time for me to pumpkinize as well. Goodnight, all, and thanks for the vids.

g’nite cujo and thanks for the great links

Cujo359 @ 78

Ed*ard Teller @ 69

RBG,

Georges Collinet has played Zap Mama on Afropop a couple of times to illustrate musical cross pollination. They’re from Belgium, which is sorta weird, huh? First time I’ve seen them. Thanks!

Not a whole lot wierder than how all those white kids in England adopted the blues once upon a time, I suppose.

Marie Daulne, was the daughter of a Belgian Walloon and his Kisingani (Congo) wife. He was killed by Simba rebels, who opposed interracial marriage, when she was an infant. Her mother fled into the jungle with her, where they were hidden by Pygmies, until the Belgian community was evacuated from the area. Because of the marriage Marie was a Belgian citizen, and her mother was given residency status from the marriage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zap_Mama

Eureka Springs @ 89

Ha! I just read this comment on the AR Times blog.. Anti Huckster Central..

Republican debate looked like a funeral except with booing.

Goodnight firedog freedom fighters.

Maybe a bit like one with the Church of Fred Phelps in attendance? Hey, and it hit all the same hot-spots…Iraq, gays, terrorists, wacko anti-abortionists, and fundy Christians!

c’ape, sad when European countries have better (and more humanitarian) immigration policies than we do. Here, ICE would separate the kids from the mom and deport mom.

A good read:

The U.S. Aggression Process and Its Collaborators: From Guatemala (1950-1954) to Iran (2002-)

Makes me wonder two things. Why not disband the UN since it really does not function in accordance with its’ mission and to what extent could could a multinational corporation be classified as a non-state actor?

g’nite eureka

Suzanne @ 119

c’ape, sad when European countries have better (and more humanitarian) immigration policies than we do. Here, ICE would separate the kids from the mom and deport mom.

Not sure about that. The ICE has started to do this with illegal immigrants with “legal” kids…but not if there is a legally recognized marriage involved. But in the US “nativism” has varied widely over history.

Sometimes the US is more open, other times Europeans…but don’t package all of those countries into one. In many places in Europe xenophobia is even greater than here in the US…with active rioting and regular assaults and discrimination…even for legal residents.

Germany has fourth generation Turkish-descended kids who still can’t get citizenship because they won’t naturalize anyone without German “blood”. But I had a friend who swears his father, from Central Africa, was accorded German citizenship because of his assisting and rescuing a German expedition to Africa during the early 1920’s. He traveled to Germany, married, and then fled to Denmark during the rise of Hitler. He, and his wife and son, were protected by the Danes…though how you hide a black-man in an all white country I’ll never understand. But the Danes did it.

John Xichai is now a Danish citizen, and “National Cultural Hero” for his jazz career…he has performed in ensembles with John Coltrane and Sonny Rollins, as well as others.

nice music tie in, c’ape. what are you listening to?

tw3k @ 120

A good read:

The U.S. Aggression Process and Its Collaborators: From Guatemala (1950-1954) to Iran (2002-)

Makes me wonder two things. Why not disband the UN since it really does not function in accordance with its’ mission and to what extent could could a multinational corporation be classified as a non-state actor?

great link. i’m a big fan of george kenney.

Here’s a little more on the
Rudy Giuliani Sex Romp Scandal

‘Course Rudy blames it on his security detail putting the charges into the wrong accounts. How odd? The auditor finds that none of his regular “Calendar” appearances end up off the police accounting books…just the ones that relate to “Judy visits” and a few other unofficial visits (to Florida, for example).

And I wonder if services to things like the Disabled and the Low Income Legal Defense funds were cut as a result of Giuliani’s trying to hide his actions from public scrutiny?

So not only is he an adulterer and embezzler…it seems that he stole from the needy!

oops. now i see that kenney posted the article, but it was written by Edward S. Herman and David Peterson (herman i know from his work on “manufacturing consent” with chomsky)

Ratm-fu#k the police
Sublime-Santeria
Frank Zappa-Chungas Revenge
Michael Landau-Live

Impeach the son of a bitch

nice list maddy (and I wholeheartedly agree)

Attaturk upstairs

The Politico report contains all sorts of suggestive lurid details about the Playboy Rudy. Such as

~ Playboy Rudy was apparently involved with Judy nathan long before previously reported, or suspected by his wife. The “hidden” records of visits near Nathan’s condominium stretch for three years…from the summer of 1999 to the week before the 9/11 attacks.

~ Rudy used his son as cover for his affairs. Rudy’s second marriage was thought to be intact until the spring of 2000. His mysterious weekend absences were explained away by his aides by saying he was spending time with his (now estranged) son and playing golf. So much for “Family Values”.

~ While Rudy was accorded 24-365 police protection as mayor, other expenses, such as travel and hotel expenses for personnel would have been increased for “overnighters” away from Manhattan. Although many of the trips show expenses only for gas, though his police detail billed the city $1,371.40 for the nights of Aug. 3-4, 2001, at the Village Latch Inn in Southampton.

~ No “legitimate” security expenses – as recorded on the Mayor’s Appointments Calendar, are placed in unrelated city offices or programs. It is only those that are “off calendar” that appear to be shuttled into such agencies as the Loft Board ($34,000), the Office for People With Disabilities ($10,054), the Procurement Policy Board ($29,757), and the Assigned Counsel Administrative Office ($400,000).

~ The Loft Board was created to make sure that Loft conversions were safe and not fire-traps. The Assigned Counsel Office made sure that impoverished defendants had access to defense counsel. The People with disabilities assisted the handicapped access city services. Giuliani’s pilfering from their budgets may have created dangerous and discriminatory conditions for the indigent and disabled.

The Cover UP~ The Comptroller’s Office made repeated requests for the information in 2001-2002 but was informed that, due to “security concerns, the information would not be provided.

The Comptroller found travel costs had skyrocketted by 151% in Giuliani’s final fiscal year, to more than $618,000, which inclded trips to Los Angeles by Donna Hanover, Giuliani’s estranged wife.Most of that travel also was billed to obscure agencies, though portions — much of it trips to and from Washington by Giuliani deputies — were accounted for more conventionally, with a more visible charge to the mayor.

Was There Another Mistress?

One “off-the-Books” trip remains mysterious. The detectives spent $1,714.99 at The Breakers, a sprawling hotel and resort in Palm Beach, Florida. There is no indication that Nathan visited Palm Beach, and where Giuliani stayed and the reason for his visit is unrecorded.

How did anyone miss following up on Rudy’s implication that Romney should have checked workers at his house better when he recommended Kerik for DHS?
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/bu…..rnie_kerik