8

one!

Republicans!!!

Yay Jane!

Good analysis.

notice all the black people in the audience?

me neither…

Why don’t Blacks vote Repug… Hmmm… let me count the ways…

Ghouliani thinks Republican issues should appeal to African Americans.

I’m soooo liking hanging here at the lake with everyone and not watching the debate.

I luuuuurve you all!

XO
FunnyDiva

Rudy takes the “how come there aren’t any African Americans in the Republican Party?” and starts talking about welfare…

nice… /snark

Huckleberry: African Americans like me.

As J.C. Watts father once said. ‘A Black man voting for a Republican is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.’

-GSD

Huckleberry: I don’t want to be a part of a tiny party.

OOOHHH!!! Questioner with a Confederate flag as a backdrop!!!

“Everybody has too much makeup on.” True, but I think Mitt has about two bottles of mega hold Gel in his hair…

neurophius @ 8

Ghouliani thinks Republican issues should appeal to African Americans.

Well…only in the sense that the GOP makes the Democrats so appealing to African Americans (or should!)

FunnyDiva

Romney dissing John Edwards. There’s one America. Democrats are dividing us and tearing down this country!!!

This has to do with Confederate flags???

ow-ow-ow!

Freddy defending the confederate flag…

Does Mittster think that Edwards’ ‘two Americas’ refers to the North and the South?

VictorLaszlo @ 19

Does Mittster think that Edwards’ ‘two Americas’ refers to the North and the South?

perhaps, but I think he was inferring “white and black”.

Paul’s ad: Love Revolution?!?!

.

Jane,

You’re so critical! Ron Paul is not a fly! He’s just small!

Peace!
PJ

VictorLaszlo @ 19

Does Mittster think that Edwards’ ‘two Americas’ refers to the North and the South?

As a Californian, ‘d happily support a proposal to declare California the other half an’ kick it out. We’d be much happier.

Rudy just said “separate accounting”. Oh the irony, coming today…

thanks neuro - I can never keep those 2 straight…

PeeJ @ 23

Jane,

You’re so critical! Ron Paul is not a fly! He’s just small!

Peace!
PJ

Hmmm… reminds me of another short Politician…

OldCoastie @ 26

thanks neuro - I can never keep those 2 straight…

Sorry–I may have misunderstood you, shouldn’t have said anything.

Had to switch to CSI-NY & find out what the 333s are all about.

McCain takes a good shot at Rudy about pork…

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Peterr @ 31

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this pack of serial loser rethugs don’t merit a title

Infrastructure - trillions needed to fix the infrastructure.

Giuliani - I fixed NY. “Separate Accounting” for infrastructure federally. ???
Parnership with states.

Paul - we are taxed to blow up bridges overseas and taxed to rebuild them overseas. We need to get the government out of our lives and out of our wallets.

McCain - I’ll veto all earmarks…no more bridges to nowhere… No more pork barrel projects.

Paul: This country is in a revolution.

oh, thank god! last question!

From Thers, over at Atrios:

Prediction

Watching this debate, I hereby predict that the winner of the GOP nomination will be a total asshole.

Blub @ 32

Peterr @ 31

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this pack of serial loser rethugs don’t merit a title

Ding!

valletta @ 25

Rudy just said “separate accounting”. Oh the irony, coming today…

Rudy should explain how to make a $400,000 radio deal into a 4 million dollar deal. That would be cool.

Blub @ 32

Peterr @ 31

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this pack of serial loser rethugs don’t merit a title

Let’s just call it the “Sludge Report”

Peterr @ 31

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It’s the debate that dare not speak its name.

Everyone needs to see this debate. Can we take up a collection to buy the footage. This debate needs to be in every household before the election. You wouldn’t want to make people watch it after they started to gag, that would be cruel.

Oh, great. The stupid “get them off the stage” question. Even stupider than usual…

I think Ron Paul just make a blooper: “The people of this country are sick & tired of what they’re getting & I happen to be part of it.”

HA! Rudy gets the Yankees, why did you root for the Red Sox post season!

Paul(thundering): “This country is in a Revolution, and I’m lucky enough to be a part of it!”

Peterr @ 36

From Thers, over at Atrios:

Prediction

Watching this debate, I hereby predict that the winner of the GOP nomination will be a total asshole.

You could have predicted this a year ago.

LS @ 33

McCain -… No more pork barrel projects.

‘cept for those involving war and conquest.

did anyone ask Mitt about his magic underwear?

OldCoastie @ 43

HA! Rudy gets the Yankees, why did you root for the Red Sox post season!

‘Cuz Hillary was a “Yankees Fan.”

wesgpc @ 40

Peterr @ 31

Mods: there’s no title to this post.

It’s the debate that dare not speak its name.

Everyone needs to see this debate. Can we take up a collection to buy the footage. This debate needs to be in every household before the election. You wouldn’t want to make people watch it after they started to gag, that would be cruel.

Maybe Mukasey should consider using it as an alternative to waterboarding.

nope OC

Yankees vs. Sox. Diamonds vs. Pearls.

A Yankees question. Jeebus. I hope Big Mitch is listening, wherever he is.

OldCoastie @ 47

did anyone ask Mitt about his magic underwear?

And the Badass Angel Moroni, and all the rest of that dopey crap?

RonD @ 51

A Yankees question. Jeebus. I hope Big Mitch is listening, wherever he is.

Whatever happened to Mitch?

-GSD

Oh. Now allegedly the follow-up commentary will deal with “issues.” Right. Sure…

No questions about restoring the Constitution, but we heard about Rudy’s support of the Red Sawx. Gee, that was time well spent.

magic boxers vs magic briefs…

Aaaaaaaalarming.
::shivers::

Marion in Savannah @ 55

follow-up commentary will deal with “issues.”

since the debate itself so clearly didn’t

gotta say, huckabee came across as vastly more credible than i anticipated. bet he picked up some support tonight.

Governor Huckabee, you reportedly lost over 100 pounds of unsightly fat. Have you ever considered the idea that some of the weight was brain matter?

-GSD

GSD @ 54

RonD @ 51

A Yankees question. Jeebus. I hope Big Mitch is listening, wherever he is.

Whatever happened to Mitch?

-GSD

Don’t know. Haven’t seen him here or anywhere in a long time. Hope he’s well.

so I’m still just a bit stunned that Rudy says he presided over the “3rd largest government in the country”…

wow! that is really something!

Mitch left. Didn’t like having baseball banned.

I think Romney took the biggest hits.

RonD @ 44

Paul(thundering): “This country is in a Revolution, and I’m lucky enough to be a part of it!”

As we all are..

What a vibrant discussion about health care, education, energy independence, and key foreign policy issues.

Guns are teh awesome!

Peterr @ 31

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Freudian slip…? ;-)

oooo

attack ad. :)

OldCoastie @ 57

magic boxers vs magic briefs…

Spiritual Marriages, and how we’re ALL gonna be together with our families…

(Ugh, perish that thought…)

And how we’re all gonna be totally reconsitututed…

Will I still have my parapsoriasis rash?

i didn’t have video for the debate

someone please tell me that that retired general’s mic just magically stopped working

i’m getting really angry.

Mitt’s hair doesn’t move.

The post debate pundit spew should be hilarious. I went to a Looney Tunes marathon once. This is kind of like that, except much darker and in poorer taste. I liked it, but I am not sure that I liked in a good way. I may need to see a shrink about this. Get some kind of check-up for my head. I have doubts about the wisdom of watching it. I do not have the strongest mental constitution. Well, I won’t do it again. Probably no permanent harm.

Mr. Tancredo would you use an illegal immigrant to smother a burning flag?

-GSD

i am quite glad mccain spanked romney soundly on torture.
but other than that, mccain was impossibly weak.

Jflo @ 71

i didn’t have video for the debate

someone please tell me that that retired general’s mic just magically stopped working

i’m getting really angry.

they got it back on…

Holy splinteration, Batman!

OldCoastie @ 72

Mitt’s hair doesn’t move.

What do you think his hair stylist charged?

Mitt has Ann Miller hair.

GSD @ 54

RonD @ 51

A Yankees question. Jeebus. I hope Big Mitch is listening, wherever he is.

Whatever happened to Mitch?

-GSD

He left awhile back in a huff over Israeli-Palestinian issues… I do miss him…

Wow. What a horror show that was. These are presidential candidates?

OldCoastie @ 72

Mitt’s hair doesn’t move.

There’s a Jihad cell living in it.

ok - I watched it all. Instructive - occasionally unintentionally hysterical.

I do, however, by virtue of having watched the *whole damn thing*, hereby claim my exemption from having to watch any more of these.

GSD @ 74

Mr. Tancredo would you use an illegal immigrant to smother a burning flag?

-GSD

And what if it was a Confederate flag?

GSD @ 74

Mr. Tancredo would you use an illegal immigrant to smother a burning flag?

-GSD

I think that would depend on whether the flag was gay, right?

Marion in Savannah @ 79

OldCoastie @ 72

Mitt’s hair doesn’t move.

What do you think his hair stylist charged?

whatever he paid, it wasn’t enough.

GSD @ 74

Mr. Tancredo would you use an illegal immigrant to smother a burning flag?

-GSD

Would you use a flag to smother a burning illegal immigrant?

If these were the questions CNN chose as the best thoughts offered by the GOP faithful to sift through and pick their nominee . . . imagine what the questions were that were left out.

OldCoastie @ 63

so I’m still just a bit stunned that Rudy says he presided over the “3rd largest government in the country”…

wow! that is really something!

“Michael, we’re bigger than US Steel!”
Hyman Roth

Bill “I only gamble what I can afford to lose” Bennett holding forth on, no doubt, “VALUES.”

OldCoastie @ 76

Jflo @ 71

i didn’t have video for the debate

someone please tell me that that retired general’s mic just magically stopped working

i’m getting really angry.

they got it back on…

good, thank you….i must have missed that part

Hugh @ 85

I think that would depend on whether the flag was gay, right?

also, the illegal’s sexual orientation as well…

jayt @ 83

ok - I watched it all. Instructive - occasionally unintentionally hysterical.

I do, however, by virtue of having watched the *whole damn thing*, hereby claim my exemption from having to watch any more of these.

Granted. You are one brave soul.

What shit! I can’t believe this is the only way to prepare for an election and I’m so glad this is the cream of the GOP crop.

Hugh, I did write flag.

-GSD

Just for the record: I fucking HATE the term “illegal aliens.”

Huckabee getting a lot of love.

hate2haggle @ 94

What shit! I can’t believe this is the only way to prepare for an election and I’m so glad this is the cream of the GOP crop.

..still not too late for Jeb to run… on the “family redemption” ticket

jayt @ 83

ok - I watched it all. Instructive - occasionally unintentionally hysterical.

I do, however, by virtue of having watched the *whole damn thing*, hereby claim my exemption from having to watch any more of these.

Awww… I thought you were a Political Junkie? I know I am, isn’t that the first step…? ;-)

Huckabee could beat Hillary

I think we’ve learned that the GOP candidate will pay down the deficit and deport all the illegal immigrants by disbanding the IRS and keeping teh gheys out of the military.

Which is good to know.

Man - did you catch the defense by Gergen on the Hackabee canned response?

It was canned and that is what he said?

OldCoastie @ 86

Marion in Savannah @ 79

What do you think his hair stylist charged?

whatever he paid, it wasn’t enough.

I swear they used two bottles of Gel…

What a sorry bunch of motley crew. - Yoda Busch, Let Them Eat Kake

cleter @ 100

Huckabee could beat Hillary

She mops the floor with him in Arkansas.

-GSD

Marion in Savannah @ 90

Bill “I only gamble what I can afford to lose” Bennett holding forth on, no doubt, “VALUES.”

I bet he is.

what the hell is Bennett talkin’ about?

OldCoastie @ 72

Mitt’s hair doesn’t move.

Which is twice as amazing when you consider how many 180s Mitt did during the debate.

“Huckabee? Fuck me…!!!“

The Republicans showed, again, that they are out of touch with not only the rest of the country but the WORLD. Guns, gays, GOD and abortion are NOT and never will be the most important issue for Americans.

And thankfully the majority of America is finally getting it.

Now Anderson Cooper can go home to the Mr.

Now we’ll turn to Campbell Brown over bringing the troops home… Foreign policy is one of her real areas of expertise, I’m sure…

Mitt - flippity flopper… I’m thinking he’d be the most fun to run against…

OldCoastie @ 107

what the hell is Bennett talkin’ about?

we’re talking about a man who, right after Katrina, went on record as sayin’ that the country’s crime rate would drop if we could only abort ‘them darkies

GSD @ 105

cleter @ 100

Huckabee could beat Hillary

She mops the floor with him in Arkansas.

-GSD

There would be civil war declared in Hope, tho… ;-)

“what the hell is Bennett talkin’ about?”

His dominatrix perchance?

Republican debates are like watching pus ooze from an open wound.

Dem debates are like watching folks pick at a scab.

BobbyG @ 97

Just for the record: I fucking HATE the term “illegal aliens.”

I don’t know it made for a great scene in Men in Black.

Campbell Brown “Ron Paul is where Democrats are on the war in Iraq…”

Yeah, because all the Democrats want to pull out now, just like Ron Paul!

Hugh @ 118

BobbyG @ 97

Just for the record: I fucking HATE the term “illegal aliens.”

I don’t know it made for a great scene in Men in Black.

I had that very thought when I wrote that. LOL!!!

Peterr @ 88

If these were the questions CNN chose as the best thoughts offered by the GOP faithful to sift through and pick their nominee . . . imagine what the questions were that were left out.

And these were the ’safe’ questions, picked by the brutally and ruthlessly objective corporate media so as not to discomfort the holy GOP. God forbid these titans of statesmanship and wisdom should run the risk of appearing ridiculous in front of the whold country. Think about it.

Eureka Springs @ 117

Republican debates are like watching pus ooze from an open wound.

Dem debates are like watching folks pick at a scab.

Nice analogy! 8-)

Huckabee scares me a little bit. Not in the scary-ass Nosferatu way that Rudolph scares me, but in the this guy’s aw-shucks-outsider-governor schtick could actually win.

wesgpc @ 73

The post debate pundit spew should be hilarious. I went to a Looney Tunes marathon once. This is kind of like that, except much darker and in poorer taste. I liked it, but I am not sure that I liked in a good way. I may need to see a shrink about this. Get some kind of check-up for my head. I have doubts about the wisdom of watching it. I do not have the strongest mental constitution. Well, I won’t do it again. Probably no permanent harm.

No shrink. Just a strong bleach application.

Marion in Savannah @ 112

Now we’ll turn to Campbell Brown over bringing the troops home… Foreign policy is one of her real areas of expertise, I’m sure…

You mean like her hubby, Dan Senor? Comm Director under L. Paul Bremer in Iraq? Conflicts of interest much?

Did Jane really say people had too much makeup on?

[Notes date and time]

Huckabee apparently has money troubles the way Bill had girl troubles.

David Ehrenstein @ 111

Now Anderson Cooper can go home to the Mr.

As long as Anderson remains unwed, little old ladies everywhere can dream of him marrying their daughters. Such a nice young man.

cleter @ 123

Huckabee scares me a little bit. Not in the scary-ass Nosferatu way that Rudolph scares me, but in the this guy’s aw-shucks-outsider-governor schtick could actually win.

The nomination, maybe. The election, never.

I wonder how many adultery questions they had to throw out.

BobbyG @ 96

Just for the record: I fucking HATE the term “illegal aliens.”

even when the term is properly applied… to the members of shrubco? They’re illegal (’cause McClellan said so the other day), and they’re aliens (of the extraterrestrial kind). Good enough for me.

Here’s the REAL Republican Candidate

cleter @ 123

Huckabee scares me a little bit. Not in the scary-ass Nosferatu way that Rudolph scares me, but in the this guy’s aw-shucks-outsider-governor schtick could actually win.

Indeed, be very afraid.

Dude is also bad news.

emptywheel @ 126

Did Jane really say people had too much makeup on?

[Notes date and time]

Definitely, a Kodak Moment! *g*

David Ehrenstein @ 132

Here’s the REAL Republican Candidate

Damn. I never realized he looked so much like Nixon…

Marion in Savannah @ 129

cleter @ 123

Huckabee scares me a little bit. Not in the scary-ass Nosferatu way that Rudolph scares me, but in the this guy’s aw-shucks-outsider-governor schtick could actually win.

The nomination, maybe. The election, never.

Don’t be so sure. In a presidential general election, it’s unwise to bet against the governor. Especially if the opponent is a senator. Reagan, Clinton, Carter, Roosevelt…

I missed the debate…maybe I can venture to hear a sentence or 2 from Rush and/or Laura to get the true picture. I am sure they found intelligent design and the vision thing in lots of places.

cleter @ 100

Huckabee could beat Hillary

At the risk of upping my crackpot index (heh) Huck is suggesting (with the “moderate” support) that “Christians” can divorce themselves from their conscience by identifying their actions as being in two realms. So death penalty support is in the realm of mammon. Like your taxes, ‘go for it’.

CTuttle @ 99

jayt @ 83

ok - I watched it all. Instructive - occasionally unintentionally hysterical.

I do, however, by virtue of having watched the *whole damn thing*, hereby claim my exemption from having to watch any more of these.

Awww… I thought you were a Political Junkie? I know I am, isn’t that the first step…? ;-)

The first step is admitting you have a problem.

I freely admit that I have a problem watching Republicans “debate”. Or speak. Or vote.

I’m going off the hard stuff.

I actually watched part of this - squinting and plugging my ears half the time - and the one who freaked me out more than the others, scary as they are in their various ways, was Romney. Not sure what it is - but he seems sort of not human.

tryggth @ 138

cleter @ 100

Huckabee could beat Hillary

At the risk of upping my crackpot index (heh) Huck is suggesting (with the “moderate” support) that “Christians” can divorce themselves from their conscience by identifying their actions as being in two realms. So death penalty support is in the realm of mammon. Like your taxes, ‘go for it’.

Oops - comment editing probably got me. :(

Yeah, African Americans should love Giuliani’s Republican party. After his Tamany style police state takes hold, and we are all walking around with ‘I love Rudy’ pins on our lapels, and the crime rate is zero, they will still be honored by stop and risk policies for the crime of walking while black. Rudy will always remember them when he needs a good diatribe to whip up some resentment among his people (will need to rotate race threats in with 9/11 and the New Caliphate of the muslim hords).

If I were African American, I would vote for the guy.

GSD @ 54

RonD @ 51

A Yankees question. Jeebus. I hope Big Mitch is listening, wherever he is.

Whatever happened to Mitch?

-GSD

I miss AK.

cleter @ 136

Marion in Savannah @ 129

The nomination, maybe. The election, never.

Don’t be so sure. In a presidential general election, it’s unwise to bet against the governor. Especially if the opponent is a senator.

Historically, Senators have a dismal track record… Conversely, Southern Gov’s have a sterling record…

Did Huck really say that about the Death penalty? BUt he is such a pro, sacred life defender.

And lolo.

The republicans are like a bunch of competing schoolyard bullies… each looking to see if they are more macho than the other.

Anderson Cooper was wonderful, at least following up on the questioners intent, rather than just letting the idiot bastard republicans spout talking points. Loved the WWJD about the death penalty. Thought Huckabee was going to shit when Cooper actually followed up… good stuff.

Mr. Huckabee. If science could determine that a fetus would grow up to be an abortion doctor, would you favor aborting that fetus?

-GSD

Fern @ 140

I actually watched part of this - squinting and plugging my ears half the time - and the one who freaked me out more than the other, scary as they are in their various ways, was Romney. Not sure what it is - but he seems sort of not human.

Read up on LDS. That is some of the dopiest shit I ever heard. Wagon Wheel Scientology.

tryggth @ 141

tryggth @ 138

At the risk of upping my crackpot index (heh) Huck is suggesting (with the “moderate” support) that “Christians” can divorce themselves from their conscience by identifying their actions as being in two realms. So death penalty support is in the realm of mammon. Like your taxes, ‘go for it’.

Oops - comment editing probably got me. :(

Actually - my link clicking error. Heh.

jayt @ 139

CTuttle @ 99

Awww… I thought you were a Political Junkie? I know I am, isn’t that the first step…? ;-)

The first step is admitting you have a problem.

I freely admit that I have a problem watching Republicans “debate”. Or speak. Or vote.

I’m going off the hard stuff.

What’s Step 2? *g*

Fern @ 140

I actually watched part of this - squinting and plugging my ears half the time - and the one who freaked me out more than the others, scary as they are in their various ways, was Romney. Not sure what it is - but he seems sort of not human.

I totally agree. Sort of like a RomneyDroid.

bhatten @ 145

Did Huck really say that about the Death penalty? BUt he is such a pro, sacred life defender.

Yep. Killed ‘em real dead.

But he felt kinda bad about it.

How about that spat over illegal immigration with Mitt and Rudy! What if they were paired together as vice pres and pres. Who would come in second and how well would they work together? What interesting mixes there would be. Gotta love politics!

Natalie
VicePresidents.com

Jflo @ 71

i didn’t have video for the debate

someone please tell me that that retired general’s mic just magically stopped working

i’m getting really angry.

He was a highlight of the night. They fixed the mic, but see it if you can.

Fern @ 140

I actually watched part of this - squinting and plugging my ears half the time - and the one who freaked me out more than the others, scary as they are in their various ways, was Romney. Not sure what it is - but he seems sort of not human.

Well, he is the scariest except for Ron Paul - who is just a fucking lunatic.

RonD @ 152

Fern @ 140

I actually watched part of this - squinting and plugging my ears half the time - and the one who freaked me out more than the others, scary as they are in their various ways, was Romney. Not sure what it is - but he seems sort of not human.

I totally agree. Sort of like a RomneyDroid.

romney is even more unelectable then rudy

romney believes Christ is not his savior, he believes he is going to be god when he dies and his wife has to be invited to anything by him

not gonna be romney as the next president

Natalie @ 154

How about that spat over illegal immigration with Mitt and Rudy! What if they were paired together as vice pres and pres. Who would come in second and how well would they work together? What interesting mixes there would be. Gotta love politics!

Natalie
VicePresidents.com

Heh, That pairing would be as likely as a Hill/Obama ticket…

perris @ 157

RonD @ 152

I totally agree. Sort of like a RomneyDroid.

romney is even more unelectable then rudy

romney believes Christ is not his savior, he believes he is going to be god when he dies and his wife has to be invited to anything by him

not gonna be romney as the next president

Such at lust for power in his eyes…. He would do anything to be president.

redstate put Huck and McCain as the winners…

lgf calls the whole debate rigged by the “Clinton Network News”…

CTuttle @ 151

jayt @ 139

The first step is admitting you have a problem.

I freely admit that I have a problem watching Republicans “debate”. Or speak. Or vote.

I’m going off the hard stuff.

What’s Step 2? *g*

I think it involves the building of the chicken-wire enclosure around the teevee. Just to keep things safe, ya know, until the other steps kick in….

It’s a very pragmatic recovery program.

Big New York banks and financial institutions are broke, yet still open for business with dollars from Muslims and Asians, and Bush remains on top of the world.

Loo Hoo, AK is happily working in Japan. Has dad along with him.

Peterr @ 88

If these were the questions CNN chose as the best thoughts offered by the GOP faithful to sift through and pick their nominee . . . imagine what the questions were that were left out.

Time for some real debates. League of Women Voters seems kinda outdated, but isn’t there somewhere? The republicans probably wouldn’t want an honest debate, but okay. Let the democrats inform the electorate as to their positions.

I don’t think it’s an accident that there were 5000 YouTube questions submitted to CNN, and that these were the questions asked of the candidates.

I have to say Ghouliani would be the scariest as Prez, but, Huckster would be the most troublesome candidate…

I was reading about the Reptoid conspiracy thing the other day…

They can’t be evolved dinosaurs, dinosaurs would not be that nasty. Aliens I guess. But what alien civilization could evolve into critters that hostile and sadistic and consciousless without destroying itself. It would be an unstable evolutionary equilibrium.

So that leaves the idea that the modern GOP it is phenomenon of our collective unconscious. Which would be really scary. Would there then be any hope for us?

Jayt, THanks…Laugh at loud. But the irony: Bush likes all that killing part too. Have these people ever heard of critical thinking? Reality? If life is so sacred, may be killing one’s neighbor does not fit. O yeah: forgot, because there are 2 realities. No wonder this country is scared.

OT: I read ROmney is so obsessed with his weight that he eats the same meals/menu every day. (No, not the same food)

They should have an ultimate fighting death cage match next.

cleter @ 100

Huckabee could beat Hillary

Not even next door.

Anderson Cooper:

Before the debate starts, can you all check your heels for shit?

-GSD

jayt @ 161

CTuttle @ 151

What’s Step 2? *g*

I think it involves the building of the chicken-wire enclosure around the teevee. Just to keep things safe, ya know, until the other steps kick in….

It’s a very pragmatic recovery program.

Sounds like a winner to me… Where do I sign…? ;-)

TexBetsy @ 162

Loo Hoo, AK is happily working in Japan. Has dad along with him.

Betsy, please give him my regards when convenient, pretty please?

Not sure what it is - but he seems sort of not human.

He’d sell all fifteen of his great-grandmothers to get elected.

I have no idea who’s going to come out of this as the nominee. I do know that 2008 is going to be a filthy dirty political year.

The republicans probably wouldn’t want an honest debate, but okay. Let the democrats inform the electorate as to their positions.

I’d like the BBC to host and moderate a foreign-policy centred debate, just for shits and giggles. Especially if it were the GOP pack, for carcrash value.

CTuttle @ 164

I have to say Ghouliani would be the scariest as Prez, but, Huckster would be the most troublesome candidate…

Yep. Worked for Reagan and Clinton and Carter.

CTuttle @ 164

I have to say Ghouliani would be the scariest as Prez, but, Huckster would be the most troublesome candidate…

Huckabee is the most dangerous..When the economy goes south, the Huckabees will be the new Republican party. Fundie, nativist, and economic populism. That’s what really scare the shit out of the money wing of the party.

undecided repub voters are very undecided…

BobbyG @ 133

cleter @ 123

Huckabee scares me a little bit. Not in the scary-ass Nosferatu way that Rudolph scares me, but in the this guy’s aw-shucks-outsider-governor schtick could actually win.

Indeed, be very afraid.

Dude is also bad news.

Just finished reading. That’s a good link. It brings up a lot of the ethical lapses in Arkansas that have been overlooked much like Giuliani’s in New York.

Republican undecided post debate: “I’d vote for John Edwards.”
“I thought about Guiliano [sic].”

Mormonism teaches that God used to be a man on another world and that he became a god by following the laws and ordinances of his god on his home world. He brought his wife to this world, a woman he had married on the other world. She is, essentially a goddess.

In his present god-state, he rules our world. He has a body of flesh and bones. Since god and his wife are both exalted persons, they each possess physical bodies. In their exalted states as deities, they produce spirit children that grow and mature in the spiritual realm.

The first spirit born was Jesus. Afterwards Lucifer was born along with the rest of us. So, Mormonism teaches that we all pre-existed in the spirit realm having been produced from the union of god and his goddess wife. Therefore, we all existed in spirit form before coming down down and entering the bodies of human babies that are being born on earth. During this ‘compression’ into the infant state, the memories of their pre-existence is ‘veiled.’

God the father, who is called Elohim, was concerned for the future salvation of the people on earth. In the heavenly realm, the Father had a plan for the salvation of the world. Jesus endorsed the Father’s plan. Lucifer did not. Lucifer became jealous and rebelled. In his rebellion he convinced a large portion of the spirits existing in heaven to side with him and oppose god. God being more powerful then they, cursed these rebellious spirits to become demons. They can never be born in human bodies.

The remaining spirits sided with God. Since they chose the better way, when it comes time for them to live on earth, they have the privilege of being born in races and locations that are relative to their condition and choice made in the spirit realm.

In the Mormon plan of salvation there needed to be a savior: Jesus. But Jesus was a spirit in heaven. For him to be born on earth, Brigham Young the second prophet of the Mormon church said that instead of letting any other man do it, God the Father did it with Mary. He said that the birth of our savior was as natural as the birth of our parents. Essentially, what this means is that Brigham Young taught that god the father came down and had relations with Mary, his spirit daughter, to produce the body of Jesus. Though many Mormons will not entertain such incestuous thoughts about God and Mary, this is what Brigham Young taught and as far as we know, this has not been denied by the Mormon church.

Nevertheless, Jesus was born, got married, and had children. He died on the cross and paid for sins — but not on the cross only. According to Mormonism, the atonement of Christ was not only on the cross. It began in the Garden of Gethsemane before he went to the cross.

In Mormonism, men and women have the potential of becoming gods. President Lorenzo Snow said, “As god once was, man is. As God is, man may become.” In order to reach this exalted state of godhood, a person must first become a good Mormon, pay a full ten percent tithe to the Mormon church, follow various laws and ordinances of the church, and be found worthy. At this point, they receive a temple recommend whereupon, the Mormon is allowed to enter their sacred temples in order to go through set of secret rituals: baptism for the dead, celestial marriage, and various oaths of secrecy and commitment. Additionally, four secret handshakes are taught so the believing Mormon, upon entering the third level of Mormon heaven, can shake hands with god in a certain pattern. This celestial ritual is for the purpose of permitting entrance into the highest level of heaven. For those who achieve this highest of heavens, exaltation to godhood awaits them. Then, he or she, will be permitted to have his or her own planet and be the god of his own world and the Mormon system will be expanded to other planets.

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Yeah. Right. You dopes don’t have enough real work to do.

Anthropomorphic Fallacy on steroids. Juvenile shit gives me a headache.

Not one of the 24 repug voters in CNN pool is a decided voter. That is the significance of the current situation.

OldCoastie @ 175

undecided repub voters are very undecided…

That debate audience was not a cheery looking lot.

Steve-AR @ 174

CTuttle @ 164

I have to say Ghouliani would be the scariest as Prez, but, Huckster would be the most troublesome candidate…

Huckabee is the most dangerous..When the economy goes south, the Huckabees will be the new Republican party. Fundie, nativist, and economic populism. That’s what really scare the shit out of the money wing of the party.

Heh, that’s why the Corporate dollars are migrating to the DLC Candies, best to get on board early… Go Edwards or DK!

Loo Hoo. @ 168

cleter @ 100

Huckabee could beat Hillary

Not even next door.

We tried the northeastern senator with the complicated and hard to explain past last time. How’d that work for us? When was the last time we beat a Republican governor?

Hugh @ 176

BobbyG @ 133

Indeed, be very afraid.

Dude is also bad news.

Just finished reading. That’s a good link. It brings up a lot of the ethical lapses in Arkansas that have been overlooked much like Giuliani’s in New York.

The Dark Side of Mike Huckabee

How much does the dark side dissuade?

There was certainly plenty of rumor and trash about W: drugs, business failure, the draft: who pays attention?

Carlo @ 178

Not one of the 24 repug voters in CNN pool is a decided voter. That is the significance of the current situation.

So, where did they find this audience? Cheering for war and torture. Who were those people? Are they part of the 25% or are these views more widespread than we realize?

RonD I hear from him very infrequently, but I will pass along your regards when I do.

bhatten @ 184

How much does the dark side dissuade?

There was certainly plenty of rumor and trash about W: drugs, business failure, the draft: who pays attention?

But, you could imagine amiably having a beer with him (O’Doule’s, of course) and he’d pertect ya from them Terrists.

TexBetsy @ 187

RonD I hear from him very infrequently, but I will pass along your regards when I do.

From me too, Ma’am… *g*

BobbyG @ 109

“Huckabee? Fuck me…!!!“

On the way to that F*** Me clip was a woman giving a serious discussion of the debate in a place she called the Spin Room. There was no snark intended as far as I could see. /snark

McCain was pretty lame when he cribbed from Mean Jean Schmidts notes to say that he has word from Iraq and word from the troops…..

Lame……

-GSD

TO Bobby G, You’re right exactly that’s what the Repubs would say and wonder why “we” don’t get it. Then they never notice he’s not even very good or competent behind those phony words. Man, that cowboy, death penalty, swagger, empty mindset sells.

Rudy and Judy had trysts at “service stations”?

I would assume that was in the restroom…

Wasn’t one of Rudy’s campaigns to drive out the sex acts in the public restrooms in the Times Square area?

I guess he had personal experience in what happened in those places…

but at least he drove out of the Times Square are ;-)

bhatten @ 191

TO Bobby G, You’re right exactly that’s what the Repubs would say and wonder why “we” don’t get it. Then they never notice he’s not even very good or competent behind those phony words. Man, that cowboy, death penalty, swagger, empty mindset sells.

Just keep bringin’ in them Ev’ryDay Low Prices.

As always, thank you Betsy.
{{{Betsy}}}

cinnamonape @ 193

Rudy and Judy had trysts at “service stations”?

I would assume that was in the restroom…

Wasn’t one of Rudy’s campaigns to drive out the sex acts in the public restrooms in the Times Square area?

I guess he had personal experience in what happened in those places…

but at least he drove out of the Times Square are ;-)

Sex in public toilets. It’s the Republican thing to do…

Marion in Savannah @ 195

cinnamonape @ 193

Rudy and Judy had trysts at “service stations”?

I would assume that was in the restroom…

Wasn’t one of Rudy’s campaigns to drive out the sex acts in the public restrooms in the Times Square area?

I guess he had personal experience in what happened in those places…

but at least he drove out of the Times Square are ;-)

Sex in public toilets. It’s the Republican thing to do…

Widely so.

thanks RonD!

Marion in Savannah @ 196

cinnamonape @ 193

Rudy and Judy had trysts at “service stations”?

I would assume that was in the restroom…

Wasn’t one of Rudy’s campaigns to drive out the sex acts in the public restrooms in the Times Square area?

I guess he had personal experience in what happened in those places…

but at least he drove out of the Times Square are ;-)

Sex in public toilets. It’s the Republican thing to do…

Eggsactly… ;-)

The self proclaimed values party is the party of Dave Vitter and Larry Craig.

-GSD

We’re either going to vote for A*PAC or Ron Paul.

One or the other.

Tap, tap, tap…

valletta @ 25

Rudy just said “separate accounting”. Oh the irony, coming today…

Entertainment Expenses have always gone into the “Loft Fund”

cleter @ 183

When was the last time we beat a Republican governor?

2000, of course.

TexBetsy @ 162

Loo Hoo, AK is happily working in Japan. Has dad along with him.

Just got back.

Will you give AK a big HELLO for me? (as if they don’t have tubes in Japan! Ha!)

New Thread.

EvilDrPuma @ 203

cleter @ 183

When was the last time we beat a Republican governor?

2000, of course.

Better question is when was the last time the country was this screwed up with it evident to a vast majority which party was responsible.

cleter @ 123

Huckabee scares me a little bit. Not in the scary-ass Nosferatu way that Rudolph scares me, but in the this guy’s aw-shucks-outsider-governor schtick could actually win.

Nah. Huckabee vs. Hillary? No worries!

wesgpc @ 40

Peterr @ 31

Mods: there’s no title to this post.

It’s the debate that dare not speak its name.

Everyone needs to see this debate. Can we take up a collection to buy the footage. This debate needs to be in every household before the election. You wouldn’t want to make people watch it after they started to gag, that would be cruel.

go to cnn.com and read the transcript. He asked “President Bush made a commitment when he ran for president in 2000 an 2004 that he would oppose and veto any tax increase that Congress sent him. My question to each of the candidates is: Would you promise to the people watching this right now, that you will oppose and veto any efforts to raise taxes as long as you’re president?” Unspoken, of course, is will you oppose tax increases on the very richest, say the top 1%–people like you?

Here are the results:

Pledged to Norquist:
Tancredo
Huckabee
Romney

Hedged:
Giuliani
Thompson
McCain

Couldn’t pledge:
Paul
Hunter

Addition to previous post: Grover Norquist asked a question on the youtubes. How precious.

emptywheel @ 126

Did Jane really say people had too much makeup on?

[Notes date and time]

Emptywheel!
Long time no see!
How’s things?

FunnyDiva

eCAHNomics @ 42

I think Ron Paul just make a blooper: “The people of this country are sick & tired of what they’re getting & I happen to be part of it.”

Guess that’s why he sponsors all that legislation on freeing precious metals from regulation…he’s not getting enough from his Gold and Silver Commodity and Mining Stocks.

http://www.house.gov/paul/legis/welcome.htm

one solution @ 209

wesgpc @ 40

It’s the debate that dare not speak its name.

Everyone needs to see this debate. Can we take up a collection to buy the footage. This debate needs to be in every household before the election. You wouldn’t want to make people watch it after they started to gag, that would be cruel.

go to cnn.com and read the transcript. He asked “President Bush made a commitment when he ran for president in 2000 an 2004 that he would oppose and veto any tax increase that Congress sent him. My question to each of the candidates is: Would you promise to the people watching this right now, that you will oppose and veto any efforts to raise taxes as long as you’re president?” Unspoken, of course, is will you oppose tax increases on the very richest, say the top 1%–people like you?

Here are the results:

Pledged to Norquist:
Tancredo
Huckabee
Romney

Hedged:
Giuliani
Thompson
McCain

Couldn’t pledge:
Paul
Hunter

Note sure what your point is. I see the person I consider the biggest threat, Giuliani, hedged. If he is nominated, I would like that clip shown. Wbo believes a word Romney says? Romney and Huckabee flipped big flops there, since they have been righly attacked as not acting like Grover-slaves while governors. Is he credible? I of course believe that Romney and Huckabee were responsible and good governors when they refused to be Grover-slaves.

Cut this debate up into Democratic commercials and run them non-stop.

Edmund: Who shall be our GOP nominee for president? Wilfred?

Wilfred Death: Why, need I say more? Jack

[[FX Deathly chord] The other five look worried]

Guy de Glastonbury: Not mad bully-boy Jack, the grave robbing assassin of Aldwych ?

Wilfred Death: No.

Three-Fingered Pete: Then crazed animal Jack, the cattle rustling cannibal from Sutton-Coldfield?

Wilfred Death: Ha ha… no.

Sean, the Irish Bastard: Then your man’s sane Jack O’Hooligan the man-hating goat-murderer of Dingle Bay.

Wilfred Death: No.

Friar Bellows: Surely not Canon Jack Smollett senior arch-deacon of the Diocese of St Bothar, the entrail-eating heretic of Bath and Wells?

Wilfred Death: No. I’m talking of unspeakably violent Jack, the bull-buggering beast-killer of no-fixed-abode.

cleter @ 136

Marion in Savannah @ 129

The nomination, maybe. The election, never.

Don’t be so sure. In a presidential general election, it’s unwise to bet against the governor. Especially if the opponent is a senator. Reagan, Clinton, Carter, Roosevelt…

Fuckwad?

cleter @ 123

Huckabee scares me a little bit. Not in the scary-ass Nosferatu way that Rudolph scares me, but in the this guy’s aw-shucks-outsider-governor schtick could actually win.

sorta like Obama’s ‘change you can believe in’ schtick?

Sorry Barack, but people don’t need ‘belief’, they need a lot of real changes.

cinnamonape @ 193

Rudy and Judy had trysts at “service stations”?

I would assume that was in the restroom…

Wasn’t one of Rudy’s campaigns to drive out the sex acts in the public restrooms in the Times Square area?

I guess he had personal experience in what happened in those places…

but at least he drove out of the Times Square are ;-)

Does he have a ’stance’ on Larry Craig’s uh exposure?