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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1118127</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1117489&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 126&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1117477&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 120&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks, LS. Hard to believe.  Can’t say unbelievable anymore though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just want to say that the Florida Executive Order is 01-261, on September 7, 2001…until recently…it was very easy to find on the web…now….not so much…seems to have been scrubbed quite well…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here ya go&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prisonplanet.com/jeb_bush.htm&quot;&gt;Florida Execitive Order 01-261&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1117489"><em>LS @ 126</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1117477"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 120</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks, LS. Hard to believe.  Can’t say unbelievable anymore though.</p>
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<p>Just want to say that the Florida Executive Order is 01-261, on September 7, 2001…until recently…it was very easy to find on the web…now….not so much…seems to have been scrubbed quite well…</p>
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<p>Here ya go<br />
<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/jeb_bush.htm">Florida Execitive Order 01-261</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank33</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1117497</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Things Come Undone at 124. I was modded  during that thread, but I am not complaining, and I have nothing against Ms. Pelosi. I am a guest of this site, and I usually get to say what I want. Thanks to FDL and all the firepups.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things Come Undone at 124. I was modded  during that thread, but I am not complaining, and I have nothing against Ms. Pelosi. I am a guest of this site, and I usually get to say what I want. Thanks to FDL and all the firepups.</p>
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		<title>By: marymccurnin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1117496</link>
		<dc:creator>marymccurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A commenter on FDL had the best idea to get our troops home. Give Bush 50 billion dollars that can only be used one way. Funding to come home. That negates the notion of not supporting the troops. Wish I could remember who said it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A commenter on FDL had the best idea to get our troops home. Give Bush 50 billion dollars that can only be used one way. Funding to come home. That negates the notion of not supporting the troops. Wish I could remember who said it.</p>
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		<title>By: wangdangdoodle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1117491</link>
		<dc:creator>wangdangdoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;New thread up there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/wheres-osama-not-in-iraq-thats-for-sure/&quot;&gt;He’s not under here!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New thread up there.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/wheres-osama-not-in-iraq-thats-for-sure/">He’s not under here!</a></p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1117490</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1117425&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;eCAHNomics @ 70&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;behidthefall&lt;br /&gt;
Here’s some links:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CIA_running_black_propaganda_operation_against_0604.html&quot;&gt;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/....._0604.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html&quot;&gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/thebl.....rizes.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Neither of those are the specifics that I’ve read in the past, but they give you a flavor for it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Among other things, U.S. is supporting Baluchi terrorists in Iran. Baluchistan spans Pakistan &amp; Iran. And, of course, Kurdish terrorists too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If they’re trying black ops through the Baluchi, the Pashtun, and the Kurds, they’ll be lucky to get out alive with their pants on. Way back before the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan back in 2002, before Karzai emerged as the President of Kabul, there was one other guy like Karzai who the U.S. was trying to legitimize. Like Karzai, he was a native Afghan, and like Karzai, too, I think he was Pashtun. Spoke Pashtu fluently. But in the wild borderlands between Pakistan and Afghanistan, he was betrayed, double-crossed and killed. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These mountain people are zenophobic as all get-out, and distrust all outsiders, no matter what country they’re from– theirs, or someone else’s. In fact, our idea of “country” is pretty much irrelevant to them. The outsider’s religion doesn’t really matter that much, either, although it helps to be the same as whatever the local folks do. But that won’t save you in a double-cross.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1117425"><em>eCAHNomics @ 70</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>behidthefall<br />
Here’s some links:<br />
<a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CIA_running_black_propaganda_operation_against_0604.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2007/&#8230;.._0604.html</a><br />
<a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html">http://blogs.abcnews.com/thebl&#8230;..rizes.html</a><br />
Neither of those are the specifics that I’ve read in the past, but they give you a flavor for it.</p>
<p>Among other things, U.S. is supporting Baluchi terrorists in Iran. Baluchistan spans Pakistan &amp; Iran. And, of course, Kurdish terrorists too.</p>
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<p>If they’re trying black ops through the Baluchi, the Pashtun, and the Kurds, they’ll be lucky to get out alive with their pants on. Way back before the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan back in 2002, before Karzai emerged as the President of Kabul, there was one other guy like Karzai who the U.S. was trying to legitimize. Like Karzai, he was a native Afghan, and like Karzai, too, I think he was Pashtun. Spoke Pashtu fluently. But in the wild borderlands between Pakistan and Afghanistan, he was betrayed, double-crossed and killed. </p>
<p>These mountain people are zenophobic as all get-out, and distrust all outsiders, no matter what country they’re from– theirs, or someone else’s. In fact, our idea of “country” is pretty much irrelevant to them. The outsider’s religion doesn’t really matter that much, either, although it helps to be the same as whatever the local folks do. But that won’t save you in a double-cross.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1117489</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1117477&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 120&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks, LS. Hard to believe.  Can’t say unbelievable anymore though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just want to say that the Florida Executive Order is 01-261, on September 7, 2001…until recently…it was very easy to find on the web…now….not so much…seems to have been scrubbed quite well…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1117477"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 120</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks, LS. Hard to believe.  Can’t say unbelievable anymore though.</p>
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<p>Just want to say that the Florida Executive Order is 01-261, on September 7, 2001…until recently…it was very easy to find on the web…now….not so much…seems to have been scrubbed quite well…</p>
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		<title>By: hackworth</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1117488</link>
		<dc:creator>hackworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1117475&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bobschacht @ 117&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1117407&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scarecrow @ 53&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Statement from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=959&quot;&gt;Speaker Pelosi&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Speaker Pelosi, if you really want Bush to take responsibility, you need to impeach him. That’s the only way to hold him accountable. Everything else is just whining and bitching.&lt;br /&gt;
Enough already.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s the cure provided for in the Constitution. Nancy, get off your duff and use it. We know the cure is hard, but there is no cajoling or reasoning with Shrub that will change America’s course.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1117475"><em>bobschacht @ 117</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1117407"><em>Scarecrow @ 53</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Statement from <a href="http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=959">Speaker Pelosi</a>:</p>
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<p>Speaker Pelosi, if you really want Bush to take responsibility, you need to impeach him. That’s the only way to hold him accountable. Everything else is just whining and bitching.<br />
Enough already.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>That’s the cure provided for in the Constitution. Nancy, get off your duff and use it. We know the cure is hard, but there is no cajoling or reasoning with Shrub that will change America’s course.</p>
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		<title>By: Things Come Undone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1117487</link>
		<dc:creator>Things Come Undone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Frank33@ 106&lt;br /&gt;
“This is the Pelosi bi-partisan solution. Work with pro-war Democrats. Here is the irresponsible, partisan approach of Congressman Pete Stark. Nancy Pelosi was quick to use her power to stop Stark and Democrats from criticizing the War and Insane Kommander Guy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pelosi refers to the “mistakes” of the policy. Stark calls them lies. Nancy Pelosi is a Bushie war-monger, and should resign as Speaker. “&lt;br /&gt;
      Where were you when Pelosi’s daughter was hawking her book of political advice stressing the importance of being nice? She said something about after all you have to work with these people to get things accomplished?&lt;br /&gt;
      I forgot that Pelosi is anything but nice to the antiwar wing of her own party. I forgot Pelosi is all smiles to Bush. I forgot that Nancy’s *cough* accomplishments  are so well respected why just look at the polls for Congress.&lt;br /&gt;
     Wait Frank33 its a good thing you were not there and I forgot or we both could have been banned from FDL for being to mean.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank33@ 106<br />
“This is the Pelosi bi-partisan solution. Work with pro-war Democrats. Here is the irresponsible, partisan approach of Congressman Pete Stark. Nancy Pelosi was quick to use her power to stop Stark and Democrats from criticizing the War and Insane Kommander Guy.</p>
<p>Pelosi refers to the “mistakes” of the policy. Stark calls them lies. Nancy Pelosi is a Bushie war-monger, and should resign as Speaker. “<br />
      Where were you when Pelosi’s daughter was hawking her book of political advice stressing the importance of being nice? She said something about after all you have to work with these people to get things accomplished?<br />
      I forgot that Pelosi is anything but nice to the antiwar wing of her own party. I forgot Pelosi is all smiles to Bush. I forgot that Nancy’s *cough* accomplishments  are so well respected why just look at the polls for Congress.<br />
     Wait Frank33 its a good thing you were not there and I forgot or we both could have been banned from FDL for being to mean.</p>
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		<title>By: TexBetsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1117486</link>
		<dc:creator>TexBetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PW looking for Osama upstairs.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/wheres-osama-not-in-iraq-thats-for-sure/&quot;&gt;http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....-for-sure/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PW looking for Osama upstairs.  <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/wheres-osama-not-in-iraq-thats-for-sure/">http://www.firedoglake.com/200&#8230;..-for-sure/</a></p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/26/a-surge-in-math/#comment-1117479</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1117471&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;eCAHNomics @ 113&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So who did KO’s voice on the Simpsons?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;KO himself just like many of the other “guest stars” they’ve had over the years.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1117471"><em>eCAHNomics @ 113</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>So who did KO’s voice on the Simpsons?</p>
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<p>KO himself just like many of the other “guest stars” they’ve had over the years.</p>
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