Sometimes Beltway Democrats do the right thing. Thanksgiving recess appears to be one of those times, and wow! Harry Reid is catching hell for it from editorial pages across the country. As you surely know, Majority Leader Reid decided (finally!) that he couldn’t trust George W Bush not to abuse the Congressional recess. This Thanksgiving, Bush apparently intended to recess-appoint several folks the Senate had made clear were not acceptable selections for their position, among them homophobic Surgeon General-designate and rabid theocrat Dr James Holsinger Jr.
I think Harry Reid deserves a round of applause for drawing a line in the sand and saying: No mas. Did anyone else expect, a year ago, when the pro-life Mormon Reid first became Majority Leader, that his first recess-appointment confrontation would come because of Bush’s choice of a misogynistic homophobe for Surgeon General? I did not.
Of course, Dr Holsinger has never completed the followup questionnaire from Senate Committee chair Edward Kennedy, who said:
We sent out the questions on 7/26 and requested that they be returned by COB on 8/10. We have not received the answers and there is no Committee action scheduled at this time.
And for challenging this President on his recess appointments, Senator Harry Reid, I say: Thank You. This is some of the hell we were asking for when we shouted “Give ‘Em Hell, Harry!” and waved all those signs at YearlyKosOne in Las Vegas. I’ve still got my “Give ‘Em Hell, Harry!” sign on my fridge, although you’ve sorely tempted me to tear it down several times this past year….
But, for now, sir, you are forgiven (sort of). This was not an easy choice, and I’m sure you’re catching hell from your colleagues, although Bob Novak reports you’ve taken some of them on a Latin American junket so maybe you’re not hearing the criticism.
Anyway, Leader Reid, here’s the thanks you’re getting from some of America’s newspapers. Just a sample of the stuff being thrown your way for exercising the prerogative of the Senate (Article One!!):
Reid looks childish and Bush untrustworthy. Reid appears to have taken it upon himself to discipline the president of the United States, much like a parent who refuses to let the children go out and play. Bush has probably earned Reid’s suspicions.
The real story is that Democrats are opting for a stunt to show their MoveOn.org base that the party is “confronting” Mr. Bush. In a microsession Tuesday, Virginia Democrat Jim Webb presided over an empty chamber for less than a minute, then left. Come to think of it, given their accomplishments so far, Democrats might as well have spent the entire fall doing the same thing.
The senators won’t miss their turkey, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will open the Senate for a pro-forma session and twice again next week.
The reason is that the Democrats don’t trust President Bush. They fear that he will use his power to make recess appointments of candidates who have been unable to muster sufficient support in Congress to win confirmation. No recess, no recess appointments.
When a president goes out of his way to poke his political rivals with a stick, he can hardly blame their leader for taking the view that one good technicality in Senate procedure deserves another.
Even FOX Noise seems to get the point, and helpfully summarizes the recess outrages committed by this President:
The Democrats’ action appears to be in response to earlier recess appointments by Bush that had been heavily opposed by Democrats, including U.S. ambassador to Belgium Sam Fox, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, U.S. Appeals Court Judge Charles Pickering, and DEA chief Julie Myers.
Fox, a political fundraiser, caught Democrats’ ire when they learned he had contributed to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group that bought ads attacking 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.
Bolton was opposed as a firebrand manager. When the Senate still would not confirm him in 2006, after his first recess appointment expired, the administration considered keeping him on until they realized Bolton could not be paid under federal law.
‘The same fate is likely to meet Myers, who likely sunk her confirmation at a Department of Homeland Security Halloween party in which she handed out a “best costume” award to an employee who dressed in what was later criticized as a racially insensitive costume.
The Washington Post holds out the possibility that Reid may also ruin the Christmas break as well:
Under law, a president can use a recess appointment if the Senate is adjourned more than three days without reconvening on the fourth day. The interim appointments last through the current and next sessions of Congress.
Congressional rules allow for the Senate to be adjourned for three full days without being considered in recess. Bush cannot use the interim appointments as long as the chamber is opened every fourth day. Reid set a schedule of pro forma sessions on Tuesday and Friday next week, and then on Nov. 27 and Nov. 29.
The Senate returns Dec. 3 for full legislative sessions and is expected to adjourn a few days before Christmas until mid-January. But Reid is threatening to hold pro forma sessions throughout the holiday season, if necessary, to block recess appointments.
Nothing beats the Los Angeles Times for false equivalency, though, as they include a dose of “Clinton-did-it-too!”
The practice of recess appointments is controversial.
In 2005, Bush appointed John R. Bolton to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations during a congressional recess, thereby circumventing a Democratic filibuster against Bolton’s nomination and sending him to New York.
Clinton angered Republicans with his recess appointment of James C. Hormel to be ambassador to Luxembourg, making Hormel the country’s first openly gay ambassador.
Yeah, sending a guy to the United Nations after he advocated taking the top ten floors off the UN headquarters building is just the same as sending a public library advocate and local philanthropist to…. Luxembourg.
And, Majority Leader Reid, look who’s backing you up! Someone who can always be counted on in a pinch: Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter. Scottish Haggis had this to say when W launched his tirade during the Federalist Society wank-a-thon, accusing the Senate of “no longer asking judicial nominees the right questions:”
The leading Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), returned fire for the Democrats, arguing the President’s tone was counterproductive.
“A war of words is not productive,” Mr. Specter told the AP in a telephone interview. In terms of judicial appointments, Mr. Specter was hopeful some progress could be made.
Thank You, Majority Leader Harry Reid, for standing up for Article One!
We’ve told you before that recess was scary, sir, and that you musn’t trust this Preznit on any recess deal. You’ve gotten lots wrong this year, sir, and you’ve certainly heard loud and clear from the netroots when you have. But in this case, you are due our sincere thanks for standing up for the prerogatives of the United States Senate.
Thank You, Harry Reid! Keep up the good work; we’re watching!
And thanks also to the Senators he’s enlisted to conduct and preside over the pro-forma sessions: Jim Webb, Byron Dorgan, and Jack Reed. Special thanks also to every one of the Senate and Capitol Hill staff members whose holiday breaks are interrupted in the service of constitutional governance.
(YouTube of CNN interview with Virginia’s Senator Jim Webb as he comes in to work on Tuesday to conduct the first pro-forma session, courtesy of cuzimjustabill)
UPDATE (h/t Rayne)
Send postcards to:
The Honorable Harry Reid
United States Senate
528 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-2803
DC Phone: 202-224-3542
DC Fax: 202-224-7327
Email Address: http://reid.senate.gov/contact/email_form.cfm
Reid’s Chief of Staff: gary_myrick -at- reid.senate.gov
Send postcards to:
The Honorable James Webb
United States Senate
144 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-4603
DC Phone: 202-224-4024
DC Fax: 202-228-6363
Email Address: http://webb.senate.gov/contact/
Webb’s Chief of Staff: paul_reagan -at- webb.senate.gov
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TSF!!!!
zed
dang it. second again. you da man steve-ar.
TSF!!
Dang, Steve-ar, you’re fast!
FunnyDiva
TeDDy!!
(((Teddy)))
Good evening dear friends. Hi teddy.
I think I like this one best:
Thanks, Teddy.
Holsinger is awful. I hope you haven’t forgotten that Mitch McConnell was his sponsor.
And, even though you give the link above, you failed to mention one of the best parts of this:
Homophobic Surgeon General Nominee Reveals Bush Plans To Recess Appoint Him
~~~snip Holsinger’s nomination, opposed by several leading Democrats, has stalled in the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. But Holsinger is telling people the president plans to appoint him to the post anyway once the Congress goes into its holiday recess.~~~~
Jumped from jezebel to FDL and da da.
Steve-AR @ 10
Lucky you. I was Digging Siun’s post and got back just that fraction too late!
Hi, Pups.
Hey, Betsy. Feeling any better today?
FunnyDiva
Kudos to Mr. Reid on this. Finally, finally, he has realized that the President cannot be trusted any farther than he can be thrown by my feeble old granny. Bush wants to play childish games, fine. He wants to throw himself on the rug and kick, scream and hold his breath like a toddler, let him. When the President of the United States of America acts as though he is an anointed god-king and his word is law, the Congress MUST DO IT’S JOB! For too long the Congress has allowed the president to make the rules up as he goes along and it is well past time for that behavior to stop.
Significantly better today. Hoping to actually leave the house tomorrow.
With less than a year to go..no more judges and no more recesses. I mean, BFD, one Dem Senator has to show up every four days.
Dang, took time to read FIRST and I’m outta the single digits!
TexBetsy @ 13
Sorry to hear you’re feeling under the weather Betsy. Hoepfully tomorrow is a better day :0)
TeddySF! G’evening, pups.
madmommy @ 12
I give even odds that if the Dems do the same thing for X-Mas, he will make the appointments anyway and give some BS about obstruction and national security.
I hope the fact that Bush threw a tantrum over it is enough to make Reid do the same thing from now until the next inauguration.
Valley Girl @ 9
teh stupid…!
hey all.
Lots of hard-working Senate employees giving up their planned vacations to ensure the Senate can be in session for 45 seconds each day — a toast to them is certainly in order, as well.
Nice to see Harry Reid do something right, eh?
Steve-AR, why not? After all, impeachment is off the table.
Steve-AR @ 18
Would that be legal? Knowing, of course, that Bush gives less than a tinker’s damn what is legal or not. But if procedure is followed regarding convening every 4th day, and Bush did appoint anyway, what would happen then?
the look on Webb’s face as he explains why he’s there gives me some hope for our Democracy.
hee!
it is always such a shock to them when the koolaid wears off and they see boosh acting like a temper tantrum throwing 4 year old.
TexBetsy @ 22
Really….what could they do about it?
‘twould be great if this set a new tone for Democratic congressional resolve. it’s one day at a time and every day counts. we need a bulldog.
hell, we need a pit bull.
Since we’ve been sending lots of critical e-mails and letters and making lots of phone calls when the “critters” aren’t doing the right thing, it’s only fair that we take time to send Reid some love (metaphorically speaking) for keeping the Senate in session when he could’ve folded and sent everyone home. Bravo!
Emotionally, how old IS Bush?
Suzanne @ 25
I like the use of “probably” in the quote. 7 years of BS obstructions and end runs around the Constitution and the best they can come up with is “Probably”?! If anyone deserved a good old fashioned switching with a peach tree switch…
(metaphoricaly speaking, of course)
Every little bit of spine growing by the Dems needs to be encouraged. This is hopefully just the first babystep on the way to developing full blown spineous erectus.
madmommy @ 23
No..but neither are war crimes or ICE searching homes and arresting people without warrants on Long island.
TexBetsy @ 29
i would say 4 – he still thinks the only reason the sun comes up in the morning is because he wants it to.
msmolly @ 28
As much love as we might send Harry, I would like him to feel a little bit threatened by it as well. Carrot and stick…
Carrot and stick…
exactly, newton
TexBetsy @ 29
Judging from the little boys in my class, I’d say between 2 and 3. The similarities are striking: all toys are “mine”, sharing is torture, tantrums are the answer to every conflict, and when all else fails, throw a screaming hissy fit.
TexBetsy @ 29
How does one evaluate the emotional age of a psychopath? I wonder if they have their own scoring chart for emotional age?
madmommy @ 36
“sharing is torture”
There’s a thought.
Suzanne @ 35
Being “behind” carries more than one connotation, and he needs to feel like we will catch him if he gets assailed, and will throw him back into the soup if he wimps out.
Steve-AR @ 37
You always start with a negative number.
newtonusr @ 34
Yep. Agreed 100%, Newtonusr. The idea that Reid might do the same thing over Christmas recess needs some pokes of support. One act of defiance does not a spine make!
Evening all. Seems Harry had a pair after all. Color me surprised and pleased.
TexBetsy @ 29
Three. Everything is about him.
fahrender @ 27
I think it’s important that we applaud this move publicly, on the blogs, in letters to the editor, in letters to our Senators, and in conversation with our Senators’ constituents. The media narrative seems to be that Reid has “pulled a stunt” or “invoked a technicality.” And yet, if you click on the link about Ambassador Jim Hormel, you will see that in 1999, under Bill Clinton, recess appointments were considered rare and hardly ever used, a novelty if you will.
It’s another example of how BushCheneyCo has moved the goalposts so swiftly the past six years, that Congress asserting its role is characterized now as the exception, when previously the executive’s assertion was viewed as exceptional. The executive is now seen as primary, the legislature secondary. We need to remind the nation that our founders crafted our government exactly apposite. Article One, baby!
Write letters to your editor, tell your Senator you approve (especially if s/he’s a GOP!), spotlight this post, digg it.
Dear Senator Reid:
Always remember to do the exact opposite of whatever the GOP/Media Complex say you should do, and you’ll be fine.
Love,
Phoenix Woman
What about the deal that was struck last August?
By Paul Kiel – August 13, 2007, 4:03PM
Perhaps a little wiser after seven months in the majority, Democrats have strategized to prevent the White House from utilizing some of its sneakier powers while Congress is in recess.
There’ll be no recess appointments this time around, Roll Call reports (sub. req.), meaning the White House won’t be taking advantage of Congress’ vacation to install any contested nominees. That’s due to a deal between Bush and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV).
Last recess, the White House made a number of controversial recess appointments, including Swift Boat backer Sam Fox as ambassador to Belgium. In order to prevent that sort of thing from happening again, Reid had plotted to keep the Senate in “pro forma” session during the recess — whereby the Senate floor personnel show up every three days to make it an official session. But now Reid and Bush have made a deal, according to Roll Call. Bush won’t make any recess appointments and Reid has promised to move some of his nominees when Senate gets back in session.
msmolly @ 41
Harry had a great chance to get some momentum when he called for a closed session last year. The question was, of course, what will he do tomorrow…he needs to KNOW that that one act of defiance does not an opposition party make.
msmolly – I owe you a coke!
I hope everyone out there had a better weekend than I did. All I have to show for mine is billable hours. Saved a number of butts this weekend … which will, of course, not be remembered when it comes time to divvy up the bonus pool.
burnspbesq @ 43
That would be #9 on the Cleckley definition of a psychopath:
9. Pathological egocentricity and incapacity to love.
burnspbesq @ 49
No good deed goes unpunished, eh Burns?
OC, did you find any bogus petition business today?
Way ahead of you on the Digg, Teddy! I was Diggin’ while everyone else was zeddin’.
LooHoo, Bush didn’t recess-appoint in August, and I imagine the payoff was his attorney general got confirmed. But he’s not submitted any Democratic names for the many commissions that must be bi-partisan (FCC, FERC, among others). That was part of the August deal, and he hasn’t kept it. Also, rumors about Holsinger were all over the place, including the posting that Valley Girl mentioned, where Holsinger had severed ties anticipating a recess-appointment.
Finally, in the waning days of this session, apparently Reid got official word from the White House of planned recess appointments, and went to Code Red.
madmommy @ 36
I am hoping against hope that Reid will stay at Code Red until boosh is deposed or otherwise leaves office.
WaPo0 media critic Howie Kurtz chatz at Noon eastern, if you’d like to ask him a question about JokeLine’s FISA nonsense and TIME’s standards for editing columnists.
Questions accepted anytime!
madmommy @ 51
Sure seems that way sometimes. I’m also somewhat crabby because the Duke women’s basketball team played like crap today and got killed by Luigi’s Evil Empire (i.e., UConn).
TeddySanFran @ 57
unless, of course, said questions involve reporting the truth about said reporters and the media
Loo Hoo. @ 52
no, I did not! looked and looked and found no one… I do not know what that might mean… have you heard of anyone else catching themselves a petitioner?
burnspbesq @ 49
Your problem, burns, is that you are a progressive and believe in altruism. If you were a Republican, you would have said, “Screw it, I want mine!”
here’s good news:
Short of Money, G.O.P. Is Enlisting Rich Candidates
from NYT > Home Page by RAYMOND HERNANDEZ
Republican Party officials say they are recruiting wealthy candidates who can spend millions of their own money to finance their Congressional races.
OldCoastie @ 60
The Courage Campaign got someone on videotape…I think it’s over at Calitics. I have to go iron clothes for work tomorrow (boo) or I’d go find it. G’night all!
DrDick @ 55
I’m still holding out hope for a complete and total meltdown in the Rose Garden on national TV. I wish on a star for it every night.
Me too, Suz. Teddy, I didn’t realize that the August deal was only for that recess. I think it’s pretty cool that Reid did this not only because Bush won’t get the appointments, but also because the public is seeing another aspect of what a sleezeball W is, and they’re putting another check under the I wonder if George Bush is credible side of the chart.
TexBetsy @ 62
Waste of their time. Waste of their money. Good to spend their tax cuts on loosing propositions.
When I was growing up, I thought the supicious attitudes of the older folk toward government and the news media was unrealistic. After seeing the partisan chearleading of CNN, et al, undermine journalism itself, I now understand.
Imagine if the skeptics criticizing Reid had the same attitude towards the Executive Branch: what a difference!
It’s like a spoiled rich mob intent on control and profit will lie and twist reality endlessly to their own corrupt ends. Will Americans submit? I hope not!
Also at WaPo0 at 2pm eastern, Novakula chatz!
burnspbesq @ 58
HaHaHa! Hadn’t heard the little dude described that way but it surely fits! Still, it’s early in the season, have faith.
madmommy @ 64
It’s the little things that count.
DrDick @ 61
Moi — progressive? Bite your tongue, sir. Not sure what I am — I might be a liberal Republican if that species hadn’t become extinct in the early 1970s. I always liked Nelson Rockefeller.
What I am is a professional who is committed to giving world-class client service. That requires sacrifice from time to time.
OK, I’m done feeling sorry for myself. :-)
Not a word, OC. I can’t believe it’s the end of the issue, though. I hope Issa is held accountable for any part he may have had in this, but I won’t stay awake nights wondering when it will happen.
TexBetsy @ 62
The “fool and their money” quote somehow springs to mind.
Given all the cheap parliamentary moves from the Republicans for six years and the inordinate amount of recess appointments who were totally unqualified, it’s about time Reid began to fight back (I know he was some kind of amatuer boxer but it’s been hard for me to tell in the 110th Congress given the track record).
Holsinger has no place as Surgeon General, and there are literally tons of qualified docs for this bully pulpit which is all Surgeon General is.
Loo Hoo. @ 72
Maybe Jerry Brown will do something about it.
TeddySanFran @ 68
wear garlic and silver crosses when submitting questions to the cryptkeeper.
madmommy @ 69
Luigi is his actual, on his birth certificate, first name. The Cameron Crazies somehow found that out a few years ago. His face has been photoshopped into numerous pictures of the character from the Super Mario Brothers games since then.
Suzanne @ 76
I have a first class oak stake (freshly sharpened) if anyone wants to borrow it for the event. Unfortunately I am in class at that time.
Since it is late night I just wanted to share a story, that might help people. Trump Tower Tampa seems to be a total loss, Trump never had his own money in the project, just his name in exchange for a fee and some of the profits. The people who put down an average of $40,000 down payment lost it ALL. The construction site has footers and some concrete work, but is now abandoned.
With the real estate slow down, please be very careful.
TexBetsy @ 62
Yes this is very good news, as Jeri Ryan’s former husband can attest. He had an excellent chance to self-fund as the GOP candidate against Obama, only to flame-out after Jeri’s accusations of the sex-club requirements he placed on their marriage.
Watching the self-funders stumble is always fun. Self-funders never think hard about their closets, and aren’t forced to by a finance committee. Essentially, they escape the first vetting by the money men. They are vetted only by hungry party people.
Ned Lamont, of course, being the exception that proves the rule.
Hola–
Have been lurking of late due to work demands. Missed everyone tons!
Here’s the link to Reid’s contact form, in case anyone wants to pass the carrots (or sticks).
He’s already heard from me. (And Jim Webb still makes my heart go patter-patter…thx Teddy!)
Hugs to pups & nitey-nite,
NS
burnspbesq @ 77
I’m guessing they would never use that information durring a game, though.
Wow, I crack myself up sometimes. That Cameron crowd is one bloodthirsty gang!
TexBetsy @ 13
You go, Bets!
FunnyD
I am glad that the Wall Street Journal knows what the “real story” is. It is a Stunt. Those Wall Street Journal people are really smart and know a lot. I do not think they have ever been wrong about anything.
night nola sue
Loo Hoo. @ 72
I suspect either the AG or the Sec of State got ahold of the honcho of the petition company… I’m hoping they had to switch tactics and wishing that the bunch of the kids they hired didn’t think it sounded like nearly so much fun… they got a whole bunch of money last week… why aren’t they spending it on warm bodies with pens?
Having been out of the loop for a week, this may have already been covered, but WTF is the deal with Oxford Mississippi getting a presidential debate and not NOLA? We’ve had 2 Mardi Gras, numerous conventions and Jazz Fest, but we can’t handle a debate?? A letter to the editor in today’s Picayune suggested that we should each call and reserve a room in Oxford the night of the debates (all 650 of them) let the SOB’s ride a bus for an hour from Memphis becuase there’s no rooms available in Oxford.
Just sent this:
Dear Sen. Reid,
I am writing to thank you and congratulate you for finally standing up the Pres. Bush and checking his ongoing egregious abuses of power. Holding the Senate in session over Thanksgiving was a good first step, but we still have a long journey ahead of us. The American people gave power to the Democrats to put a stop to this renegade administration and we expect to see you use that power for that purpose. Again thank you for taking this first step. I and many others will be watching keenly for your follow up.
OldCoastie @ 86
Maybe because they know they’ll need to spend it on lawyers? Their deadline is 11/29 — they should be soliciting signatures like crazy. Unless they’ve made their goal ;(
OldCoastie @ 86
perhaps it’s faster to simply copy names and addresses from the phone book
that’s my worry, Teddy – that they collected enough sigs… but, who knows?
guess we will find out soon…
TexBetsy @ 90
What are the California rules regarding signatures on petitions? Copying would seem to be very easy, how, if possible, is that sort of thing avoided?
Madmom, perhaps it’s good to bring attention to some of the problems still remaining in Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina.
newtonusr @ 34
And here’s where you can call or fax to deliver your carrots in the morning:
Send postcards to:
The Honorable Harry Reid
United States Senate
528 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-2803
DC Phone: 202-224-3542
DC Fax: 202-224-7327
Email Address: http://reid.senate.gov/contact/email_form.cfm
Reid’s Chief of Staff: gary_myrick -at- reid.senate.gov
Send postcards to:
The Honorable James Webb
United States Senate
144 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-4603
DC Phone: 202-224-4024
DC Fax: 202-228-6363
Email Address: http://webb.senate.gov/contact/
Webb’s Chief of Staff: paul_reagan -at- webb.senate.gov
Lea (no uh) @ 63
Yup. Here it is. We can all say we knew Old Coastie when…
Thanks Rayne
OT
In 1994 I wrote “A Christmas Card to the World” in a subway station beneath what is now called Ground Zero.
It’s finally starting to get noticed.
Just saw it today, just when I needed a little holiday spirit.
Hope your Holiday weekend was as pleasant.
Rayne @ 94
Thank you Rayne!
Nice letter, Doc!
yup, saw that video… I was waiting on “sign the multiple copies!” and was sad they didn’t say it… but, its not like it was a hidden camera…
Time to feed the jukebox …
some guitar magic, acoustic division.
TexBetsy @ 93
If I thought that would happen, good. But Oxford is in the far northern part of the state, and I would be willing to bet that there will be very little focus on the poor in Mississippi who are still struggling. There will be lots of cheerleading about the big, new shiny casinos that are now open along the coast, the ones that don’t pay much and get fat tax breaks.
The last thing the decision makers wanted was to spotlight the complete and utter failure of the response after Katrina, and the responsibility that the federal goverment holds in the drowning of a major American city.
No problem, TexBets and newtonusr. My work is done here now for the night, catch you on the other side of dawn, FirePups!
madmommy @ 87
Oxfuckingford, MS? Ever been there?
What a bunch of wankers.
*gasp* Clinton appointed a gay Ambassador to Luxembourg! The travesty of it all! Did I ever mention I almost flew by the off ramp to Luxembourg from the autobahn… Aloha Ya’ll!
sleep well rayne
don’t hold back, mary mcc, tell us what you really think
Teddy, Wonderful post with great advice. There is already a post at Give ‘Em Hell Harry titled No Recess Appointment.. where I would encourage firepups to leave a note of thanks and support the idea through the rest of Bush’s term.. If he doesn’t like it then I suggest impeachment myself.
Here’s a little something different. Had a chance to see him live once in Chicago. Absolutely wonderful.
Thanks, Rayne; I updated the main post with that contact info.
marymccurnin @ 103
It’s a cute little college town. Other than that, not much to recommend it. Except for Trent Lott and Haley Barbour pushing to have the debate there. But that would be cynical of me, wouldn’t it?
Presumably Reid’s COS is not this Gary Myrick.
one for you TexBet
bush saw a man with long grey hair,wearing a white robe and sandals,holding a staff.
he asked him if he was Moses and the man ignored him.
“Moses”bush said in a loud voice.
the man stared straigh ahead.
bush asked one of the secret service detail if he thought the man looked like Moses and the bodyguard said yes, he did look like Moses.
“Moses”shouted bush and the man stared straight ahead.
the guard went up to the man and whispered”you look just like Moses.are you Moses?”
the man whispered back”yes i am Moses,but the last time i talked to a bush,i spent 40 years wandering in the desert and ended up leading my people to the only spot in the middle east where there is no oil.
i’m in quite a good mood.
DrDick @ 108
I have the album he did with Ry Cooder. Great stuff.
Astral Technician @ 97
Beautiful!
madmommy @ 110
Aw, why not Philadelphia, MS, it worked before…
cool may!
I’m up for some chocolate-covered popcorn. Anyone else want a bowl?
Time to get organized for tomorrow. Back in a while.
Suzanne @ 105
What they really don’t understand about New Orleans is that The Big Easy really doesn’t need the rest of the country to be who is really is. It is a place like no other. It is about neighborhoods. Real neighborhoods filled with people who function on a human level long forgotten by turdy republicans and nerdy democrats. New Orleans imparts an identity on it’s inhabitants that drills down deep and is filled with humanity.
CTuttle @ 115
Now, CT, you know Reagan was just giving a regular speech. Nothing between the lines there.
*spit*
TexBetsy @ 120
the sound of silence?
marymccurnin @ 118
Can I get an amen?!
Suzanne @ 121
Started with some dashes, and then a quip about stealing Burns’s seat in the hot tub.
Amen brothers and sistas. Awomen, too.
madmommy @ 119
Heh, but it would fit in beautifully with their current platform, it’d give their Southern Strategy the proper send off…
burnspbesq @ 113
Check out some of his solo work. The man is incredible. Takes the music full circle. He grew and and trained as a djali (traditional Madinke bard), which is one of the sources for blues, jazz, and rock. He took American blues and fused it with traditional Malian music to create a new genre, “Mali Blues”, which he plays in that clip. Here is Toumani Diabate playing the traditional stuff (that is a kora he is playing).
apparently got stripped out somehow tex. wanna try again – this time without the dashes?
CTuttle @ 125
Local news is reporting that Hawai’i is probable for the Sugar Bowl. Wouldn’t that be a hoot!
madmommy @ 127
Remember were the Sugar Bowl used to ALWAYS be?
Something wrong with me tonight. Pissed off.
Here is a little something from the ladies. This Rokia Traore singing.
madmommy @ 128
That’s been the talk here too! Hmmm… Vili in NOLA…
a little tweeter and the monkey man
or some nat?
marymccurnin @ 129
The field at City Park? It is a big time bowl and very prestigous for the teams involved. A bigger venue like the Dome means more tickets and more money for each school, and that’s the bottom like these days.
Check your FB.
CTuttle @ 131
Will the fans travel that far? That seems to be a consideration in who gets the bids.
I ran across this and found that 10 out of every 100,000 people have my surname… It’s pretty nifty… Just type in your last name…
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11…..names.html
Everytime people write about New Orleans and its uniqueness, it makes me realize that when the Big One hits, if there are GOPs in office, San Francisco will also be left to rot. There’s something about a GOP that hates a vibrant city.
CTuttle @ 135
Some of us didn’t even make the list.
TeddySanFran @ 136
Cause vibrant cities are honest. Republicans aren’t.
There’s something about a GOP that hates a vibrant city.
The administration has failed miserably and it is hurting the entire planet.
Where the dollar’s decline is taking the world
Woah, has BusChen ruined more than just American prestige?
How can Bush-blind Republicans stand by and watch American standards be undermined by such a myopic and irresponsible administration?
This view illustrates how Republicans have lost all political momentum because of their dependence on fear and greed. That is the essence of their message — fear or greed. Or both at the same time. Utterly bankrupt and berift of dignity the Republican brand has become.
What a pitiful end to the so-called Party of Lincoln.
madmommy @ 134
Heh, the team has beaucoup frequent flier miles racked up, but, the fan base has a lot less…
CTuttle @ 135
Didn’t even make the list. Makes me feel special, even if it is my married name ;0)
DrDick @ 137
Revel in your uniqueness… ;-)
TeddySanFran @ 136
They also hate old industrial towns as well. Detroit isn’t faring as well, though i think a large part of that is also due to Big Auto being such greedy asses. Detroit has a lot to offer and up until about 01, it WAS improving slowly.
They just don’t like anything they can’t build up on their own, and if they want to defy them? They destroy it by greed.
madmommy @ 141
If you are a mccurnin you are related to me and mine.
Another fine Malian lady, Oumou Sangare.
Hi to everyone!
Teddy, great post. This is encouraging, and boy, it is about time for some encouragement, no?
TeddySanFran @ 136
You’ve got a valid point there Teddy. Then you’ll also get the “what the hell are those people thinking” responses. As if there is any area safe from fire, flood, or severe weather events.
CTuttle @ 142
I am used to it by now, but you would hav thought that there would have been more saddle makers in Germany.
Boz Scaggs…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
getting below freezing for the first time here in central texas. dallas dipped thursday night.
marymccurnin @ 144
Sweetie, I like to think we are related anyway, if only through thoughts. I’d trade several of my blood relatives for you any day of the week!
TexBetsy @ 150
It was 5 degrees here yesterday morning. This morning it was 11 and got all the way up to 27 (warmest off the week).
madmommy @ 151
Offering up two older brothers, maybe a third, for a single SANE adult family member who actually lives in the US. Any takers?
TexBetsy @ 150
It was cold here yesterday but a rain front came through and it warmed up. I guess your weather means the chilliness is headed my way.
There’s an interesting Kos Diary by me imperturbe on choosing Clinton over Obama based on viewing committee hearings.
Since my first choice is Hillary Clinton and my second choice is Barack Obama, showing some highlights from committee hearings would be good. why Hillary? as you can see in these highlights, Hillary appears to be the most-knowledgable and refrains from using verbose statements and feel-good or feel-bad speeches.
DrDick @ 152
No thanks! I gave away all my thermal underdrawers when I left the high altitudes of Colorado. It gets cold enough here for me, just not for very long thank goodness!
Something from Senegal by Baba Maal (saw him live as well).
madmommy @ 154
Heh, I’ve had to break out some sweat shirts, it’s dipped into the low sixties here… ;-)
CTuttle @ 158
:0P
madmommy @ 151
Thanks!!!!
We’ll get back to the 60’s for much of the winter. This is temporary.
CTuttle @ 158
Hey CT, wanna come for a visit in January?
TexBetsy @ 161
I remember it snowing a 1/4in in El Paso, it shut Ft. Bliss down…
CTuttle @ 163
If nobody knows how to drive in it …
DrDick @ 162
I was born about 400 miles north of ya, Edmonton! No thanks!
CTuttle @ 163
It snowed less than that 2 Christmases ago. Panic in the streets! We were at the MIL’s house and driving the 2 miles back to our house there were cars pulled over and skidding all over the roads. Pathetic.
Here’s the car my brother put some money down on, knowing full-well that if the company goes under, he’s lost his money.
DrDick @ 152
Hey, do love winter! Not that cold here yet, but at least some snow, finally. I have to say, we were all relieved to see cold weather.
Loo Hoo. @ 167
Is it electric?
Margot @ 146
Exactly, and thank you!
Loo Hoo. @ 167
very cool!
Loo Hoo. @ 167
Hubby went to the car graveyard while we were out of town and found my dream car-a 57 Chevrolet wagon, 4 door, drop tailgate with rear facing seat. It’s in a cow pasture in Sulligent Alabama just waiting for me to win the lottery to buy it and restore it.
is there any such thing as OT tonight? Gary Miller, my nutbag wingnut congressman here in CA42 has had the strangest week on earth. Last week, the mother of his grandchildren took off with the kids after the Congressman got custody (very weird the grandfather gets custody, mother doesn’t seem to have any major issues and, knowing Miller, I’d guess he bought himself a judge) – poof! completely vanishes without a trace.
then, this weekend, his own daughter up and dies suddenly and unexpectedly… at age 33…
I actually DO feel sorry that he lost his daughter, but really, this is just bizarre…
OldCoastie @ 173
Does seem a bit odd…wonder what the back story is?
It isn’t just the DFH’s calling out BusChen any more…
The “Deepening” Credit Crisis
This is going to be a difficult week for the powers that be…
oc, i had heard about the parental abduction by the mother of the children but not about the loss of his daughter
CTuttle @ 169
The Aptera was designed from the ground up as an electric vehicle, and later as an extended range electric vehicle. After building the proof-of-concept Mk-0, we hired the automotive design firm, ‘eleven’, to help us further develop the concept vehicle. The ‘eleven’ team, led by Jason Hill and Nathan Armstrong, made great strides in the development of the Aptera’s body styling, interior design, and structural engineering. Meanwhile, we refined the Aptera’s shape to maximize…
Really strange, OC, keep us posted!
burnspbesq @ 100
This artist is wonderful — my kids tease me because I get all teenager over him.
Think I will make it an early night – have to get used to this whole work thing again in the morning. Thought I would leave with something really different, Tuareg hip hop. The group is Tinariwen and they usually play a fusion of western pop and traditional Tuareg music. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XgKDpmbGeo
Christine Edmonson @ 179
Thexthe.
sleep well dr d
I think my bro said the cost is $11 K.
Suzanne @ 176
apparently the kids’ father (Miller’s son) is such a wreck, he has no chance at custody.
DrDick @ 180
Nite DrDick! Thanks for all the wonderful music tonight.
Here is the link for the last one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XgKDpmbGeo
marymccurnin @ 181
Hi Mary,
can you translate for an old broad?
here’s the link on Miller’s press release on his daughter… checked a couple other places and the words “unexpected” comes up and there is no cause of death listed.
Bedtime for me as well. The lunches are made and the coffee pot is prepped for the a.m.
Goodnight all!
Loo Hoo. @ 183
Wow, not a bad price…
Christine Edmonson @ 187
sexy with a lisp.
Nite, DD! Cool tune…
Goodnight Mad.
neokneme @ 175
University of Iowa has done research showing 40% of creditors foreclosing,
failed to show proof of ownership.
no proof of ownership = no foreclosure
are many money-stressed home owners managing to keep foreclosure at bay and do a deal to keep their homes?
ianal but this seems possible
Nite, MM!
i though it was some locat thingie mary mcc
marymccurnin @ 191
Thanks! Now THAT’S hilarious!
may @ 194
Heh, all that bundling is costing them a bundle… Ooh, the irony… ;-)
sleep well madmom
may – are many money-stressed home owners managing to keep foreclosure at bay and do a deal to keep their homes?
There is reportage to that effect. I don’t know the details but it may be a silver lining for the homeowners in some cases. It is no sure thing however… Let me find some links…
*waving to all the leaving sleepy pups*
My daughter worked in the sub
humanprime industry for six months. It made her sick and she quit. She couldn’t believe how people who spoke English as their second language were taken advantage of. She is getting ready to get her masters in nursing.CTuttle @ 198
In Re Foreclosure Cases
This is a good start…
No recess for congress or the senate as long as soldiers in Iraq get no recess. If the boys and girls are fighting, then the lazy carcasses on Capitol Hill should stay. That goes for W and YankMyCheney, too.
TeddySanFran @ 136
Cuz vibrant cities have a diverse population, and if the GOP is anything, it is a bunch of racist homophobes.
neokneme @ 200
Barney Franks is trying to pass legislation to encourage them to renegotiate terms and to prevent any future ARM and other exotic financing… particularly excluding prepayment penalties…
biggus diggus @ 204
ding! i like it
marymccurnin @ 202
That is wonderful — we need nurses so badly in this country. I watched a 60 Minutes segment some two years ago about hiring nurses from Africa, mainly because we don’t have enough to hire.
marymccurnin @ 202
You did something right with that girl.
Christine Edmonson @ 208
And the other daughter is getting her masters in Chinese Medicine. (Proud mom dusts fingernails on lapel)
TexBetsy @ 209
That is the truth– three cheers for everyone.
marymccurnin @ 210
Being on the fringe of traditional medicine, tell me about the masters degree in Chinese medicine. Where and how?
accupuncture?
“…the federal judicial system need not, and will not, be ‘forgiving in this regard.’”
I do believe they’ll get their duckies in a row for the next batches of filings, in the meantime they’re SOL for those mortgages… 8-)
Heh, all that bundling is costing them a bundle… Ooh, the irony… ;-)
In Re Foreclosure Cases
CTuttle nails it…
Suzanne @ 213
So Suzanne, in the meantime, how’s the diving?
fahrender @ 27
Doesn’t exactly sound like that tough old junkyard-dog Barack Obama, does it?
This is just the beginning of the credit crisis, and it’s not about subprimes, not really. In SF, where there were very few subprimes, one-third of the mortgages in 2006 were interest-only. They start re-setting in the next 15 months, which will likely be very bad for everyone everywhere. We have only begun to see the very beginning of this, folks.
Atrios links to some scary people who seem to know what they are talking about in this regard.
Christine Edmonson @ 212
Amy goes to Acupuncture and Integrative Medicine College in Berkeley.She is learning acupuncture, herbal medicine, bodywork, and qigong. Many of her professors also teach at UC Berkeley or are docs. They use some of the same texts that are used in medical schools. It is actually a combination of traditional western medicine and eastern medicine.
So what will happen to all the families that lose their homes? Will they be able to buy or rent anything else?
I believe that the housing market was encouraged to spike so people could pull equity out. This made the economy seem stronger than it really was.
Financial Fuckery
CTuttle @ 214
So the homeowners are free and clear? No mortgage paymentos?
Christine Edmonson @ 216
too forking cold.. currently 43 here and falling.. i did do a dive for thanksgiving however, with turkey feathers and shells
TeddySanFran @ 218
Thanks to Shrub’s deregulating the financial markets, we’re in for some rough times ahead…
marymccurnin @ 219
Oh that is so cool, and I wish her well. I’ve been involved in a medical museum that is one of the best western medical collections in the country, but strictly western.
Loo Hoo. @ 222
nope…. the bank or whoever will hound the former homeowner for any difference between what was owed and what the place is auctioned off – and now that bankruptcy was ‘reformed’ – well, not many options left for a lotta folks.
Suzanne @ 223
feathers and shells?
hmm… musta missed that one!
just feathers and shells?? ;-)
Christine Edmonson @ 225
Where is it?
CTuttle @ 224
…. in every arena.
TRex has a new blog!
http://trexstasy.blogspot.com/
Suzanne @ 226
Millions of people will be effected by this. So many that the banks are going to be overwhelmed. Maybe they won’t have the staying power to go after that many folks.
marymccurnin @ 228
In Cleveland, Ohio. The Dittrick Medical History Center. They have just acquired the most comprehensive contraceptive collection in the country, and hope to find a way to reinstall the collection in a new way.
new threadiness
Here we go again…
Liquidity and Credit Crunch in Financial Markets is Back to Summer Peaks, Only Much Worse and More Dangerous
If the foo shits…
Where are those Brooks Brothers protesters when we need them?
CTuttle @ 224
Thanks to Shrub’s deregulating the financial markets, we’re in for some rough times ahead…
Quick get a hanky…
Loo Hoo. @ 222
Those particular individuals are from Duestche Bank, but, I’m not sure if the original mortgagees can pursue it. However, it forces the Banks/Financiers to make sure they have clear titles for each and every attempt at foreclosure, which will be highly problematic since they sliced and diced the titles across numerous holders of that debt, i.e. bundles… Pass the popcorn…
Suzanne @ 223
I may have found you a Christmas swim suit, but the diving may be difficult with no straps…
more teddy upstairs
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ain-trust/
shit! i owe y’all and Jane an apology. If I’d seen that TRex actually said he was leaving, I would not have posted that here. I thought it was a second site, like PW has.
It was not my place to announce it, but I ran across it in my news-ninjaing. My heartfelt apologies also to Teddy. I did NOT and DO NOT intend to hijack the thread.
SpSo pelease let’s talk instead about Rachel Maddow or the repub candidates.
Along with Webb, Sens Byron Dorgan (D-ND) and Jack Reed (D-RI) also spent a day gaveling in and out the Senate during the Thanksgiving recess.
madmommy @ 92
There is a sampling of about 10% of the submissions to establish that the name, address and signature match the submitted voter registration form. They also check for duplications, and non-county submissions. There is a certain standard that has to be met of that 10% sample which would disqualify the measure. If the confirmed signatures are between 90-110% of the target..all the signatures for a county have to be checked. But if the number of confirmations are 110% or above the “target” then it will be accepted.
Basically it’s a method to determine if egregious fraud has occurred in submitting illegal signatures.
What happened in Old Coasties case was a bit different. The signatories were likely legal voters in the County, but they were defrauded and placed their signatures on initiatives that were concealed from view.
I think that the Secretary of State and Attorney General should ask the County Clerks to examine the initiatives for evidence of
a) a fold below the level where the title and description of the initiative
b) a nick, notch or crimp on either edge of the initiative that might indicate a rubber band.
c) In addition, there may be actual residue of a rubber band on the top petition submitted. This would be the only LEGAL petition.
If the above are found a survey of signatories should occur to see if they were told to sign four “copies” of an initiative, or if they were otherwise accorded an opportunity to read an accessible title and description of an initiative.
“Bush has probably earned Reid’s suspicions.”
-Winston-Salem Journal
Du ya think? What tipped you off the big stuff or the fact that the guys just recess appoints and signing statements himself into dictator – or the fact that some of the nominees now just don’t bother to answer questions or reply to written requests since they are waiting for the king maker to just crony them in during the recess. Wide awake in america.
I PREDICT Senator Webb’s “very junior status” WILL be a thing of the past and I wouldn’t be surprised to see his ascension to maybe even 1600 one of these days. I think Senator Webb is one of few true last stand patriots and I THANK HIM for his work, dedication to his principles and his commitment to supporting the other half of the 2006 election mandate: REIGN IN THE BU$H CABAL! Thank you as well to the good folks of VA and to Mike Stark and his tremendous role in that decision.
Yes, Reid did a good thing here. Would that it could be the beginning of a trend!?!!!
siri@legitgov.org
http://www.legitgov.org
TexBetsy @ 161
Wish that was true of where this country is headed also, but I won’t hold my breath.