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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114277</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114248&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GSD @ 74&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;War with Iran Watch update:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071124/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&quot;&gt;We have always been at war with the Shiites….&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yupper.  Pay no attention to the fact that most attacks on Coalition troops have been led by Sunnis.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1114248"><em>GSD @ 74</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>War with Iran Watch update:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071124/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq">We have always been at war with the Shiites….</a></p>
<p>-GSD</p>
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<p>Yupper.  Pay no attention to the fact that most attacks on Coalition troops have been led by Sunnis.</p>
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		<title>By: GSD</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114248</link>
		<dc:creator>GSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;War with Iran Watch update:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071124/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&quot;&gt;We have always been at war with the Shiites….&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War with Iran Watch update:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071124/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq">We have always been at war with the Shiites….</a></p>
<p>-GSD</p>
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		<title>By: Lillie.Yiyuan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114246</link>
		<dc:creator>Lillie.Yiyuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I whispered a forbidden fantasy&lt;br /&gt;
for a perversion called democracy,&lt;br /&gt;
where the powerful do come and go&lt;br /&gt;
where the people tell them.&lt;br /&gt;
It’s perverse I know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I searched for dangerous pornography&lt;br /&gt;
for pictures of democracy,&lt;br /&gt;
where the public gets to have its say&lt;br /&gt;
before the rich can have their way.&lt;br /&gt;
It’s a kink I will tell you such,&lt;br /&gt;
to think the rich do have too much.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I read a book that has been banned,&lt;br /&gt;
about a troubled time in a troubled land,&lt;br /&gt;
when all they had to fear was fear itself,&lt;br /&gt;
and all the old ways went to a shelf.&lt;br /&gt;
Then with spade and pick in hand,&lt;br /&gt;
the built a shining nation from the sands.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My mind it whirls now like a dervish,&lt;br /&gt;
around the subject of this peculiar fetish.&lt;br /&gt;
It’s strange to be so aroused you see,&lt;br /&gt;
by this lust for a democracy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I whispered a forbidden fantasy<br />
for a perversion called democracy,<br />
where the powerful do come and go<br />
where the people tell them.<br />
It’s perverse I know.</p>
<p>I searched for dangerous pornography<br />
for pictures of democracy,<br />
where the public gets to have its say<br />
before the rich can have their way.<br />
It’s a kink I will tell you such,<br />
to think the rich do have too much.</p>
<p>I read a book that has been banned,<br />
about a troubled time in a troubled land,<br />
when all they had to fear was fear itself,<br />
and all the old ways went to a shelf.<br />
Then with spade and pick in hand,<br />
the built a shining nation from the sands.</p>
<p>My mind it whirls now like a dervish,<br />
around the subject of this peculiar fetish.<br />
It’s strange to be so aroused you see,<br />
by this lust for a democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114223</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114218&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 68&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114216&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 66&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;can american presidents do that?  is that the same kind of thing the pakistani guy is doing too?  will the australian guy really leave?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Howard didn’t resign, as far as I know, he just simply lost the election.  Musharraf is pulling some kind of wacky stuff though - coached by W, I’m sure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yep … except the Pakistanis will protest more loudly and for very long … and Musharraf will be forced out …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1114218"><em>LS @ 68</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1114216"><em>SnarKassandra @ 66</em></a></p>
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<p>can american presidents do that?  is that the same kind of thing the pakistani guy is doing too?  will the australian guy really leave?</p>
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<p>Howard didn’t resign, as far as I know, he just simply lost the election.  Musharraf is pulling some kind of wacky stuff though &#8211; coached by W, I’m sure.</p>
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<p>Yep … except the Pakistanis will protest more loudly and for very long … and Musharraf will be forced out …</p>
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		<title>By: SnarKassandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114222</link>
		<dc:creator>SnarKassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I got another zed, but the digg is still there!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-christine-pelosi/&quot;&gt;http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ne-pelosi/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got another zed, but the digg is still there!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-christine-pelosi/">http://www.firedoglake.com/200&#8230;..ne-pelosi/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve-AR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114221</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve-AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is a good article on stem cells and how the fundies goal of creating a third ratetheocracy is working…&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/11/stem_cell_breakthrough.php&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s going to take more work on embryonic stem cells to figure out how to take any cell from your body, and cleanly and elegantly switch it to a stem cell state that can be molded into any organ you need. What this work says is that yes, we’ll be able to do that, it isn’t going to be that difficult, and that we ought to be supporting more stem cell research right now so we can work out the details.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or we can just sit back and let the Japanese and Europeans and Koreans do it for us, which is OK, I suppose. Just keep in mind that ceding the research to others means giving them a head start on the development of all the subsequent breakthroughs, too, and that what we’re doing is willingly consigning US research in one of the most promising biomedical research fields ever to an also-ran, secondary status.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good article on stem cells and how the fundies goal of creating a third ratetheocracy is working…<br />
<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/11/stem_cell_breakthrough.php">link</a></p>
<p>It’s going to take more work on embryonic stem cells to figure out how to take any cell from your body, and cleanly and elegantly switch it to a stem cell state that can be molded into any organ you need. What this work says is that yes, we’ll be able to do that, it isn’t going to be that difficult, and that we ought to be supporting more stem cell research right now so we can work out the details.</p>
<p>Or we can just sit back and let the Japanese and Europeans and Koreans do it for us, which is OK, I suppose. Just keep in mind that ceding the research to others means giving them a head start on the development of all the subsequent breakthroughs, too, and that what we’re doing is willingly consigning US research in one of the most promising biomedical research fields ever to an also-ran, secondary status.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114219</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114216&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 66&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114213&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 63&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Putin’s Plan:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“In other words, the Russian Constitution doesn’t allow Putin to take a third consecutive term as president, but it doesn’t stop him from resigning, even one day before the next presidential election, and then running against his hand-picked “successor” (the non-entity Viktor Zubkov who Putin recently named Prime Minister) who would, by taking the oath of office and governing even for one minute, have sufficiently interrupted Putin’s rule to allow its continuation.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php&quot;&gt;http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;can american presidents do that?  is that the same kind of thing the pakistani guy is doing too?  will the australian guy really leave?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IIRC, the 22 Amendment places a max of 10 years (VP succeeding to office with 2 years remaining on a term and two elections).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1114216"><em>SnarKassandra @ 66</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1114213"><em>LS @ 63</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Putin’s Plan:</p>
<p>“In other words, the Russian Constitution doesn’t allow Putin to take a third consecutive term as president, but it doesn’t stop him from resigning, even one day before the next presidential election, and then running against his hand-picked “successor” (the non-entity Viktor Zubkov who Putin recently named Prime Minister) who would, by taking the oath of office and governing even for one minute, have sufficiently interrupted Putin’s rule to allow its continuation.”</p>
<p><a href="http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php">http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>can american presidents do that?  is that the same kind of thing the pakistani guy is doing too?  will the australian guy really leave?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>IIRC, the 22 Amendment places a max of 10 years (VP succeeding to office with 2 years remaining on a term and two elections).</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114218</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114216&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 66&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114213&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 63&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Putin’s Plan:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“In other words, the Russian Constitution doesn’t allow Putin to take a third consecutive term as president, but it doesn’t stop him from resigning, even one day before the next presidential election, and then running against his hand-picked “successor” (the non-entity Viktor Zubkov who Putin recently named Prime Minister) who would, by taking the oath of office and governing even for one minute, have sufficiently interrupted Putin’s rule to allow its continuation.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php&quot;&gt;http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;can american presidents do that?  is that the same kind of thing the pakistani guy is doing too?  will the australian guy really leave?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Howard didn’t resign, as far as I know, he just simply lost the election.  Musharraf is pulling some kind of wacky stuff though - coached by W, I’m sure.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1114216"><em>SnarKassandra @ 66</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1114213"><em>LS @ 63</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Putin’s Plan:</p>
<p>“In other words, the Russian Constitution doesn’t allow Putin to take a third consecutive term as president, but it doesn’t stop him from resigning, even one day before the next presidential election, and then running against his hand-picked “successor” (the non-entity Viktor Zubkov who Putin recently named Prime Minister) who would, by taking the oath of office and governing even for one minute, have sufficiently interrupted Putin’s rule to allow its continuation.”</p>
<p><a href="http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php">http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>can american presidents do that?  is that the same kind of thing the pakistani guy is doing too?  will the australian guy really leave?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Howard didn’t resign, as far as I know, he just simply lost the election.  Musharraf is pulling some kind of wacky stuff though &#8211; coached by W, I’m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114217</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114214&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;CTuttle @ 64&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114204&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 56&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Pffft&lt;/b&gt; …&lt;em&gt; that theory is not going to withstand the test of time …&lt;/em&gt; &lt;b&gt;/s&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, Intelligent Design is the ticket… :P&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Facts only serve to complicate a perfectly happy life … /s&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1114214"><em>CTuttle @ 64</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1114204"><em>Petrocelli @ 56</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
<b>Pffft</b> …<em> that theory is not going to withstand the test of time …</em> <b>/s</b></p>
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<p>Yeah, Intelligent Design is the ticket… :P</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Facts only serve to complicate a perfectly happy life … /s</p>
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		<title>By: SnarKassandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/24/the-news-grab-bag/#comment-1114216</link>
		<dc:creator>SnarKassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1114213&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 63&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Putin’s Plan:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“In other words, the Russian Constitution doesn’t allow Putin to take a third consecutive term as president, but it doesn’t stop him from resigning, even one day before the next presidential election, and then running against his hand-picked “successor” (the non-entity Viktor Zubkov who Putin recently named Prime Minister) who would, by taking the oath of office and governing even for one minute, have sufficiently interrupted Putin’s rule to allow its continuation.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php&quot;&gt;http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;can american presidents do that?  is that the same kind of thing the pakistani guy is doing too?  will the australian guy really leave?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1114213"><em>LS @ 63</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Putin’s Plan:</p>
<p>“In other words, the Russian Constitution doesn’t allow Putin to take a third consecutive term as president, but it doesn’t stop him from resigning, even one day before the next presidential election, and then running against his hand-picked “successor” (the non-entity Viktor Zubkov who Putin recently named Prime Minister) who would, by taking the oath of office and governing even for one minute, have sufficiently interrupted Putin’s rule to allow its continuation.”</p>
<p><a href="http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php">http://publiuspundit.com/2007/11/putins_plan.php</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>can american presidents do that?  is that the same kind of thing the pakistani guy is doing too?  will the australian guy really leave?</p>
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