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	<title>Comments on: The Spin I&#8217;m In: Season&#8217;s Bickerings</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Buck</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1113220</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So how do we compensate artists fairly without creating a total police state with an electronic cop in every computer?  Already, Putin’s government is using the excuse of stopping piracy of music, software, and films to stamp out the opposition, since everyone in Russia is guilty, he can just choose who to prosecute.  Likewise, as you say, the same musicians who attack fans for pirating them pirate other musicians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My suggestion: let people file-share as much as they want.  Then do ratings measurements and compensate artists based on how much is downloaded.  Fund it from a fee assessed on Internet bandwidth, blank media, etc.  Then, the more the fans “pirate” you, the more you get paid.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Software developers (including open source developers) should get a cut as well when their work is downloaded.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Working out the formula will be a difficult matter (figuring out how to avoid cheating, etc), but I think it could be done.  Also, it doesn’t have to be a linear scale (to answer the “how rich should Paul McCartney be”); the formula could be tweaked to help more musicians survive.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how do we compensate artists fairly without creating a total police state with an electronic cop in every computer?  Already, Putin’s government is using the excuse of stopping piracy of music, software, and films to stamp out the opposition, since everyone in Russia is guilty, he can just choose who to prosecute.  Likewise, as you say, the same musicians who attack fans for pirating them pirate other musicians.</p>
<p>My suggestion: let people file-share as much as they want.  Then do ratings measurements and compensate artists based on how much is downloaded.  Fund it from a fee assessed on Internet bandwidth, blank media, etc.  Then, the more the fans “pirate” you, the more you get paid.  </p>
<p>Software developers (including open source developers) should get a cut as well when their work is downloaded.</p>
<p>Working out the formula will be a difficult matter (figuring out how to avoid cheating, etc), but I think it could be done.  Also, it doesn’t have to be a linear scale (to answer the “how rich should Paul McCartney be”); the formula could be tweaked to help more musicians survive.</p>
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		<title>By: greenwarrior</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1113124</link>
		<dc:creator>greenwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1112800&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;finifinito @ 92&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have spent too much time in Bloomington, IN. It’s a cool town and all but to me its like Indy too much. I need to get out of this region of the country for a while. I will check out Olympia Wa and Asheville, NC, those are good suggestions. I also plan to check out Athens and Savannah GA too. I have an ex whose father lives in Savannah. Its nice there too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While you’re at it check out the drought in Georgia and surrounding states.  Drinking water is getting VERY low.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1112800"><em>finifinito @ 92</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I have spent too much time in Bloomington, IN. It’s a cool town and all but to me its like Indy too much. I need to get out of this region of the country for a while. I will check out Olympia Wa and Asheville, NC, those are good suggestions. I also plan to check out Athens and Savannah GA too. I have an ex whose father lives in Savannah. Its nice there too.</p>
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<p>While you’re at it check out the drought in Georgia and surrounding states.  Drinking water is getting VERY low.</p>
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		<title>By: isit2009yet</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1112919</link>
		<dc:creator>isit2009yet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1112913&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bustednuckles @ 144&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;First off, don’t feel bad about knowing what EPU is. Nobody that hasn’t been here for quite awhile does.&lt;br /&gt;
EPU stands for Evil Paralell Universe.&lt;br /&gt;
That is the ‘handle’ that a long time poster here goes by, haven’t seen him for a while.&lt;br /&gt;
He would type out great, insightful comments, but usually way late in a thread.&lt;br /&gt;
His comments would show up just about the time a new thread started and everyone would leave and go to the new thread, thus his brilliant comments would largely get ignored until someone came back and saw it.&lt;br /&gt;
Just exactly how I saw your first post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Being EPU’d means basically, no one sees your comment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s funny!&lt;br /&gt;
Well, I’ll just have to post again, especially on one of TRex’s posts, since he’s a fellow Athenian…&lt;br /&gt;
I’m off on errands anyhow, but I’ll keep posting.&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks!  This is a great site.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1112913"><em>Bustednuckles @ 144</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>First off, don’t feel bad about knowing what EPU is. Nobody that hasn’t been here for quite awhile does.<br />
EPU stands for Evil Paralell Universe.<br />
That is the ‘handle’ that a long time poster here goes by, haven’t seen him for a while.<br />
He would type out great, insightful comments, but usually way late in a thread.<br />
His comments would show up just about the time a new thread started and everyone would leave and go to the new thread, thus his brilliant comments would largely get ignored until someone came back and saw it.<br />
Just exactly how I saw your first post.</p>
<p>Being EPU’d means basically, no one sees your comment.</p>
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<p>That’s funny!<br />
Well, I’ll just have to post again, especially on one of TRex’s posts, since he’s a fellow Athenian…<br />
I’m off on errands anyhow, but I’ll keep posting.<br />
Thanks!  This is a great site.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1112916</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1112902&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;isit2009yet @ 139&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1112888&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bustednuckles @ 130&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
OH NO!&lt;br /&gt;
Your very first post has been EPU’d!&lt;br /&gt;
Everyone is upstairs at the new post.&lt;br /&gt;
You can’t go back now, keep commenting, and Welcome.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s EPU’d? (not to sound really dumb on my second post…)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can check urban dictionary online, but it is short hand for commenting on a post after folks have moved to a new one upstairs.  Named for a commenter here at the Lake called “Evil Parallel Universe” who wrote long comments such that by the time he finished, everyone had moved on.  Hence “EPU’d”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1112902"><em>isit2009yet @ 139</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1112888"><em>Bustednuckles @ 130</em></a></p>
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OH NO!<br />
Your very first post has been EPU’d!<br />
Everyone is upstairs at the new post.<br />
You can’t go back now, keep commenting, and Welcome.</p>
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<p>What’s EPU’d? (not to sound really dumb on my second post…)</p>
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<p>You can check urban dictionary online, but it is short hand for commenting on a post after folks have moved to a new one upstairs.  Named for a commenter here at the Lake called “Evil Parallel Universe” who wrote long comments such that by the time he finished, everyone had moved on.  Hence “EPU’d”</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenE</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1112914</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From a boomer–Cape Verdean youth in diaspora piled a mile thick to see Ferro Gaita play Funana, a music once forbidden for its political messages and low down dancing: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQaRtDs8LGg.&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQaRtDs8LGg.&lt;/a&gt; 40 years ago we knew it was going down; we didn’t change anything, but the beat, the beat goes on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a boomer–Cape Verdean youth in diaspora piled a mile thick to see Ferro Gaita play Funana, a music once forbidden for its political messages and low down dancing: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQaRtDs8LGg."></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQaRtDs8LGg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQaRtDs8LGg</a>. 40 years ago we knew it was going down; we didn’t change anything, but the beat, the beat goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: Bustednuckles</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1112913</link>
		<dc:creator>Bustednuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First off, don’t feel bad about knowing what EPU is. Nobody that hasn’t been here for quite awhile does.&lt;br /&gt;
EPU stands for Evil Paralell Universe.&lt;br /&gt;
That is the ‘handle’ that a long time poster here goes by, haven’t seen him for a while.&lt;br /&gt;
He would type out great, insightful comments, but usually way late in a thread.&lt;br /&gt;
His comments would show up just about the time a new thread started and everyone would leave and go to the new thread, thus his brilliant comments would largely get ignored until someone came back and saw it.&lt;br /&gt;
Just exactly how I saw your first post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Being EPU’d means basically, no one sees your comment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, don’t feel bad about knowing what EPU is. Nobody that hasn’t been here for quite awhile does.<br />
EPU stands for Evil Paralell Universe.<br />
That is the ‘handle’ that a long time poster here goes by, haven’t seen him for a while.<br />
He would type out great, insightful comments, but usually way late in a thread.<br />
His comments would show up just about the time a new thread started and everyone would leave and go to the new thread, thus his brilliant comments would largely get ignored until someone came back and saw it.<br />
Just exactly how I saw your first post.</p>
<p>Being EPU’d means basically, no one sees your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: demi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1112907</link>
		<dc:creator>demi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I WILL be making a few terse phone calls on Monday.  I’m sure I will get my money back, but the cost of what I had planned?  Priceless.&lt;br /&gt;
Ha!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WILL be making a few terse phone calls on Monday.  I’m sure I will get my money back, but the cost of what I had planned?  Priceless.<br />
Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Bustednuckles</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1112905</link>
		<dc:creator>Bustednuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What’s EPU’d? (not to sound really dumb on my second post…)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t go away, this will take a second for me to type.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What’s EPU’d? (not to sound really dumb on my second post…)</p>
<p>Don’t go away, this will take a second for me to type.</p>
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		<title>By: Bustednuckles</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1112904</link>
		<dc:creator>Bustednuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;De nada. You are all right in my book.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>De nada. You are all right in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: demi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/23/the-spin-im-in-seasons-bickerings/#comment-1112903</link>
		<dc:creator>demi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Party on, indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
You made me laugh out loud.&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you sweetie.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Party on, indeed.<br />
You made me laugh out loud.<br />
Thank you sweetie.</p>
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