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	<title>Comments on: Put Your Pencils To Work For Writers</title>
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		<title>By: MaryAn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1110172</link>
		<dc:creator>MaryAn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As of today, there have been 240,000 pencils donated (that we know of) or 20,000 boxes to the tune of $20,000. That’s a lot of money that could go to fund something not iffy like the fund that helps writers who can’t pay their bills during the strike. We don’t KNOW if the pencils will make it past the mail room or if they’ll get donated by the studios as requested. These pencils will probably wind up crushed and delivered to strike captains. I have profound respect for the point being made and am a huge supporter of the writers but I think a crap shoot is bad way for people to donate their money.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of today, there have been 240,000 pencils donated (that we know of) or 20,000 boxes to the tune of $20,000. That’s a lot of money that could go to fund something not iffy like the fund that helps writers who can’t pay their bills during the strike. We don’t KNOW if the pencils will make it past the mail room or if they’ll get donated by the studios as requested. These pencils will probably wind up crushed and delivered to strike captains. I have profound respect for the point being made and am a huge supporter of the writers but I think a crap shoot is bad way for people to donate their money.</p>
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		<title>By: AngryAmerican</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1109477</link>
		<dc:creator>AngryAmerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“OT–&lt;br /&gt;
I’m just catching up (Its breakfast time in Hawaii), so I just left a long message downstairs on the Lou Dobbs thread on this theme: America is ready for a third party! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Its not just me on a rant; its actually Kathleen Bushman, and she has national polling data to back up her point. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What do you think? I, for one, am getting tired with a Democratic Party leadership that treats progressives as an annoyance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi Bob,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m with you big time, but I got flamed in here a while back for even suggesting that this web site cover Cythia McKinney’s potential run for president (in ‘08) as a Green.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My wife and I have both been registered Green for well over a decade, and we see the current lack of spine in the Democratic Party as clear evidence of the consolidation of the Dems and Reps into one force in DC working against the average voters interests.  I not only think the country is ready for a third party, I think it needs it to survive (provided democracy is ever restored here).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I often wonder if the average person knows that there are at least 10 American polical parties.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“OT–<br />
I’m just catching up (Its breakfast time in Hawaii), so I just left a long message downstairs on the Lou Dobbs thread on this theme: America is ready for a third party! </p>
<p>Its not just me on a rant; its actually Kathleen Bushman, and she has national polling data to back up her point. </p>
<p>What do you think? I, for one, am getting tired with a Democratic Party leadership that treats progressives as an annoyance.</p>
<p>Bob in HI”</p>
<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>I’m with you big time, but I got flamed in here a while back for even suggesting that this web site cover Cythia McKinney’s potential run for president (in ‘08) as a Green.</p>
<p>My wife and I have both been registered Green for well over a decade, and we see the current lack of spine in the Democratic Party as clear evidence of the consolidation of the Dems and Reps into one force in DC working against the average voters interests.  I not only think the country is ready for a third party, I think it needs it to survive (provided democracy is ever restored here).</p>
<p>I often wonder if the average person knows that there are at least 10 American polical parties.</p>
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		<title>By: solai</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1109383</link>
		<dc:creator>solai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1109343&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Redshift @ 120&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1109338&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Biodun @ 115&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-US-Mideast.html&quot;&gt;And about that desperate Condi legacy&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dream on. Trump says you can’t cut a deal. Even the Pope ducked out of a meeting with you because he knows you can’t bring peace to the world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pretty much the definition of slacking until the last day of class and pulling an all-nighter, eh?&lt;/b&gt; And you’ve got to love this entry in the “understatement of the century” contest:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rice said there is no guarantee of success in that time frame.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;That’s the perfect analogy. But if I know Condi, she’ll fall asleep around 1am.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1109343"><em>Redshift @ 120</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1109338"><em>Biodun @ 115</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-US-Mideast.html">And about that desperate Condi legacy</a>:</p>
<p>Dream on. Trump says you can’t cut a deal. Even the Pope ducked out of a meeting with you because he knows you can’t bring peace to the world.</p>
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<p><b>Pretty much the definition of slacking until the last day of class and pulling an all-nighter, eh?</b> And you’ve got to love this entry in the “understatement of the century” contest:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rice said there is no guarantee of success in that time frame.</p>
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<p>That’s the perfect analogy. But if I know Condi, she’ll fall asleep around 1am.</p>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1109369</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1109237&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;musicsleuth @ 28&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1109216&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;skippy @ 13&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;the sad fact is, the vast majority of guild writers, 95% or so, are in the middle class, make about $5,000 a year on writing, and are chronically unemployed or underemployed, due to the nature of the business (same can be said for actors).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;are you missing a zero in that figure, or are the writers middle class because they are doing something else for a living? not trying to be snarky — even $50k is barely middle class in la, i’m sure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i wish i was.  tho it’s not the average (i shouldn’t have implied it was), it’s the median income…that is to say, there are as many guild members making &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt;than $5000 a year writing as there are making &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt;.  see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-a-rodman/its-the-money-stupid_b_71039.html&quot;&gt;howard rodman at huffpo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;most writers, like actors, have to supplement their income w/other jobs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1109237"><em>musicsleuth @ 28</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1109216"><em>skippy @ 13</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>the sad fact is, the vast majority of guild writers, 95% or so, are in the middle class, make about $5,000 a year on writing, and are chronically unemployed or underemployed, due to the nature of the business (same can be said for actors).</p>
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<p>are you missing a zero in that figure, or are the writers middle class because they are doing something else for a living? not trying to be snarky — even $50k is barely middle class in la, i’m sure.</p>
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<p>i wish i was.  tho it’s not the average (i shouldn’t have implied it was), it’s the median income…that is to say, there are as many guild members making <i>less</i>than $5000 a year writing as there are making <i>more</i>.  see <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-a-rodman/its-the-money-stupid_b_71039.html">howard rodman at huffpo</a>.</p>
<p>most writers, like actors, have to supplement their income w/other jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1109358</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanksgiving 2001 the average price of gasoline was $1.16 a gallon.  For Thanksgiving 2007 and after a mere 6 years in office, Bush has been able to cut that price down to $3.09. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And there are some who say Republicans don’t understand economics.  *shakes head sadly at how anyone could think so*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanksgiving 2001 the average price of gasoline was $1.16 a gallon.  For Thanksgiving 2007 and after a mere 6 years in office, Bush has been able to cut that price down to $3.09. </p>
<p>And there are some who say Republicans don’t understand economics.  *shakes head sadly at how anyone could think so*</p>
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		<title>By: Biodun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1109357</link>
		<dc:creator>Biodun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;New Christy post upstairs…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Christy post upstairs…</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1109354</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1109348&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Biodun @ 125&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Exclusive world rights to the Publisher forever…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With pumped up prices for colleagues all over the world.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1109348"><em>Biodun @ 125</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Exclusive world rights to the Publisher forever…</p>
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<p>With pumped up prices for colleagues all over the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Biodun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1109350</link>
		<dc:creator>Biodun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;egregious @ 124:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;snark snark…*g* What have they been doing for 8 years? And why are we rushing on this now all of a sudden? Endloading?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>egregious @ 124:</p>
<p>snark snark…*g* What have they been doing for 8 years? And why are we rushing on this now all of a sudden? Endloading?</p>
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		<title>By: Biodun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1109348</link>
		<dc:creator>Biodun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Exclusive world rights to the Publisher forever…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exclusive world rights to the Publisher forever…</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/put-your-pencils-to-work-for-writers/#comment-1109347</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Redshift at 20&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;[Israel-Palestinian talks] Rice said there is no guarantee of success in that time frame.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If only they had 2 full terms of the presidency!  Just think what they might have accomplished.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redshift at 20</p>
<blockquote><p>[Israel-Palestinian talks] Rice said there is no guarantee of success in that time frame.</p>
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<p>If only they had 2 full terms of the presidency!  Just think what they might have accomplished.</p>
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