Comments on: Late Late Nite FDL: The Most Practical and Useful Blog Post You Will Read This Year http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:22:45 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Zeno http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110672 Zeno Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:33:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110672 <p>I can be as discreet as I want at dinners with my right-wing parents, but it doesn’t matter. Dad will insist on bringing something up. I’ve tried suffering in silence, but no more. I <i>will</i> poke back.</p> <p><a href="http://zenoferox.blogspot.com/2007/07/father-son-conversation.html">The father-son conversation</a></p> I can be as discreet as I want at dinners with my right-wing parents, but it doesn’t matter. Dad will insist on bringing something up. I’ve tried suffering in silence, but no more. I will poke back.

The father-son conversation

]]> By: Elliott http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110630 Elliott Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:09:44 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110630 <p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/22/being-thankful-this-isnt-me/#respond">and Christy’s upstairs</a></p> and Christy’s upstairs

]]> By: OldCoastie http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110627 OldCoastie Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:07:38 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110627 <p>good morning, all… coffee is ready…</p> good morning, all… coffee is ready…

]]> By: Loo Hoo. http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110626 Loo Hoo. Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:06:56 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110626 <p>Gobble, gobble, egregious!</p> Gobble, gobble, egregious!

]]> By: egregious http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110625 egregious Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:05:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110625 <p>Good morning and happy thanksgiving!</p> Good morning and happy thanksgiving!

]]> By: Loo Hoo. http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110624 Loo Hoo. Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:02:56 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110624 <p>It is 5:00, Elliot. I went to sleep early last night, just couldn’t stay awake.</p> It is 5:00, Elliot. I went to sleep early last night, just couldn’t stay awake.

]]> By: Elliott http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110622 Elliott Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:00:27 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110622 <p>and morning eCAHN, Lindy and Loo Hoo.</p> <p>Loo Hoo isn’t it 5 am for you?</p> and morning eCAHN, Lindy and Loo Hoo.

Loo Hoo isn’t it 5 am for you?

]]> By: Elliott http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110621 Elliott Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:59:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110621 <p><a href="#comment-1110619"><em>cinnamonape @ 122</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1110605"><em>Elliott @ 111</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Happy Thanksgiving!</p> <p>JPL so glad you’re gonna to get some rain!</p> <p>And cinnamonape, of course we’re altruistic, but we’re also selfish. We benefit from both traits.</p></blockquote> <p>I agree. What I find interesting to these tales is that children are actually trying altruistic behaviors at an early age at an above random rate. But it’s not 100% of the time. So that means if they are rewarded from the tendency to be altruistic, cooperative and helpful they will maintain that behavior…but if the are rewarded primarily for being selfish they’ll likely go that way. But given the higher frequency of helpful behavior it likely takes more disincentive to make an individual “highly selfish”.</p> <p>This makes sense that such experimental. Low-risk altruism would be selectively favored in young social Primates or other social mammals. They’d then respond to the specifics of their environment to fine tune it to their social position, age and the dynamics of their group. So it’s nether all nature (genetic hard-wiring) nor all nurture (since one has to have the genes to allow altruistic plasticity and a brain able to modulate the cost-benefits of certain acts). It’s epigenetic.</p></blockquote> <p>ooo thanks, I love your explanations </p> <p>I’m curious, what altruistic behaviors have you observed in orangutans?</p> cinnamonape @ 122

Elliott @ 111

Happy Thanksgiving!

JPL so glad you’re gonna to get some rain!

And cinnamonape, of course we’re altruistic, but we’re also selfish. We benefit from both traits.

I agree. What I find interesting to these tales is that children are actually trying altruistic behaviors at an early age at an above random rate. But it’s not 100% of the time. So that means if they are rewarded from the tendency to be altruistic, cooperative and helpful they will maintain that behavior…but if the are rewarded primarily for being selfish they’ll likely go that way. But given the higher frequency of helpful behavior it likely takes more disincentive to make an individual “highly selfish”.

This makes sense that such experimental. Low-risk altruism would be selectively favored in young social Primates or other social mammals. They’d then respond to the specifics of their environment to fine tune it to their social position, age and the dynamics of their group. So it’s nether all nature (genetic hard-wiring) nor all nurture (since one has to have the genes to allow altruistic plasticity and a brain able to modulate the cost-benefits of certain acts). It’s epigenetic.

ooo thanks, I love your explanations

I’m curious, what altruistic behaviors have you observed in orangutans?

]]> By: Lindy http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110620 Lindy Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:55:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110620 <p>Good morning and happy Thanksgiving day to everyone.</p> Good morning and happy Thanksgiving day to everyone.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110619 cinnamonape Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:54:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/21/late-late-nite-fdl-the-most-practical-and-useful-blog-post-you-will-read-this-year/#comment-1110619 <p><a href="#comment-1110605"><em>Elliott @ 111</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Happy Thanksgiving!</p> <p>JPL so glad you’re gonna to get some rain!</p> <p>And cinnamonape, of course we’re altruistic, but we’re also selfish. We benefit from both traits.</p></blockquote> <p>I agree. What I find interesting to these tales is that children are actually trying altruistic behaviors at an early age at an above random rate. But it’s not 100% of the time. So that means if they are rewarded from the tendency to be altruistic, cooperative and helpful they will maintain that behavior…but if the are rewarded primarily for being selfish they’ll likely go that way. But given the higher frequency of helpful behavior it likely takes more disincentive to make an individual “highly selfish”.</p> <p>This makes sense that such experimental. Low-risk altruism would be selectively favored in young social Primates or other social mammals. They’d then respond to the specifics of their environment to fine tune it to their social position, age and the dynamics of their group. So it’s nether all nature (genetic hard-wiring) nor all nurture (since one has to have the genes to allow altruistic plasticity and a brain able to modulate the cost-benefits of certain acts). It’s epigenetic.</p> Elliott @ 111

Happy Thanksgiving!

JPL so glad you’re gonna to get some rain!

And cinnamonape, of course we’re altruistic, but we’re also selfish. We benefit from both traits.

I agree. What I find interesting to these tales is that children are actually trying altruistic behaviors at an early age at an above random rate. But it’s not 100% of the time. So that means if they are rewarded from the tendency to be altruistic, cooperative and helpful they will maintain that behavior…but if the are rewarded primarily for being selfish they’ll likely go that way. But given the higher frequency of helpful behavior it likely takes more disincentive to make an individual “highly selfish”.

This makes sense that such experimental. Low-risk altruism would be selectively favored in young social Primates or other social mammals. They’d then respond to the specifics of their environment to fine tune it to their social position, age and the dynamics of their group. So it’s nether all nature (genetic hard-wiring) nor all nurture (since one has to have the genes to allow altruistic plasticity and a brain able to modulate the cost-benefits of certain acts). It’s epigenetic.

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