Well, this is interesting. It seems that the Petroleum Institute is taking Right Wing Bloggers on all-expense-paid travel junkets to view some new construction projects and spread the word that, in fact, Big Oil is Wise and Good and Strong and only has the best interests of the American people at heart.
I will travel the next two days to Houston and Corpus Christi on a tour arranged by the American Petroleum Institute (API). The tour includes other bloggers, including Bruce McQuain of QandO, who announced it earlier today. We will take a tour of Chevron’s Blind Faith platform before they deploy it — a platform designed to pump a new field in the Gulf of Mexico. We will also tour their visualization center, get a briefing on deepwater drilling, and have a lengthy Q&A session with Chevron representatives.
Obviously, I hope to get a better perspective on oil drilling, the petroleum industry, and energy policy as a result.
Because there couldn’t possibly be any better way to get straight answers out of the petroleum industry than to let them assume total responsibility for your well-being for several days as they ply you with food, alcohol, and disinformation. God damn. Could these two jokers be any closer to a surprise upset in the competition with front-runners O’Hanlon and Pollack for the “Overly Credulous Rubes of the Year, 2007″ award? Doesn’t anyone but me find it a little humorous that the new oil rig they took these Right Wing stool-pigeons to view is called “Blind Faith”?
I talk a lot about the pride I see in our military about their profession, their equipment and what they do. I saw the same level of pride and professionalism in (Chevron Employee) Emile (Beaudreaux). He is personally invested in this project and he can’t wait to make it a producing facility. I found his pride and sense of ownership to be both impressive and assuring. We often think of big oil companies as monolithic faceless giants that don’t give a good hoot about anything but profit. Mr. Beaudreaux and many others I met, showed me a significantly different and praiseworthy side and one the oil industry needs to spend a bit of time and energy presenting to the public out there. Good people.
Mmmm, yeah. The petroleum industry is packed to the rafters with “good people”, of course. The oil and gas industry are, in fact, staffed entirely by people who reside permanently on Santa Claus’s “Nice” list, whereas Santa hates bad old liberal, environmentally conscious people who think maybe we should look for other sources of energy than oil. We are perennial residents of the “Naughty” column because, God knows, Santa took a beating when his Enron stocks tanked, and the rest of his portfolio is pretty heavily weighted still toward the petro-industrial complex.
But you know, whatevs.
Remember not so long ago when a Certain Wingnut Blogger (who shall remain brainless) got his Aquaman Underoos in a knot because he thought Apple was paying me to hype the iPhone?
I just know that only the lefties get the goodies, like all-expenses-paid trips to Amsterdam, so it doesn’t really matter if he pimps the iPhone or not, and I think he knows that too.
Anyway, as I’m on the right wing and am definitely not getting any free swag from Apple, as I have no opinions to influence besides a bunch of drooling imbeciles whose idea of a really hot new invention is a “fidjo” (which is just a fiddle with a banjo glued to its back), I can, clean of all mercenary motives, declare emphatically that I could give a rat’s ass about Steve Jobs or his darling little techsessories and fashion-forward widgets.
TRex– enjoy the phone. Should prompt literally duos of conversations.
TBogg had the best analysis of the situation, as I recall:
Envy is thin because it bites but never eats. – Spanish Proverb
Shorter Ace:
I think I’ll try passive-aggressive whining about not getting free stuff in the hope that it will get me some free stuff
Maybe TRex will let him have the box to live in.




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Trex!!!!!
Trex!!!!!
TRex!!
I don’t think you need to go to Houston. The chemical in the soil, water and air will get those turkeys.
They have been informed downstairs, stand by for the stampede.
I’m a blogger now. Of sorts. I’ll take an all expense paid trip. Who’s paying? Where am I going? Do I then have to write favorable stuff about them?
Oh, and HI TREX.
TexBetsy @ 7
Yeah, we see where your motivations lie, young lady.
“Ooh! Ooh! I’ll take a free trip! Pick me! Pick MEEEEEE!! Oh. Hi, Trex.”
((((((((((TRex!))))))))))
Evening, T!
I see you’re going for the gold!
Hillary is giving away pudding cups? Bye, John Edwards!
Okay, I haven’t gotten farther than this but I’m questioning right now…
We will also tour their visualization center
they are deploying that platform in the Sea of Joy, correct?
TRex, I could use a couple of those Soros checks myself. Christmas coming and all.
TRex, wallowing in his pudding cups. I’m shocked, just shocked!
TRex @ 8
Excellent summary.
I have to go to Albuquerque for a conference. If anybody wants to buy me a ticket, I will heartily endorse your good or service.
Cap’n Ed needs a tour of the Frito Lay plant that’s going off the grid. He might learn something there.
*refraining from a joke about the plant being emptied of all Cheetos*
Trex, rather than Houston go to TexBetsy’s and eat lots. And make sure Cassie is getting all of her homework done.
hey right wing bloggers; when on your oiled junket just remember:
the corduroy slacks should NOT end at the ankles.
this will not help you get the hot chicks at hooters (dallas, houston, boise)
Well, TRex, at least ya don’t come cheap, Lexus and all… :-)
Lexus? I would settle for a new Corolla.
Trex, if you get a lifetime supply of pudding cups, your butt isn’t going to look very good in those slim cut jeans. Be careful what you ask for, sweetie!
TRex- you always find such great topics for Late Nite!! xxooo
burnspbesq @ 13
Yep. And it will have no impact on the environment other than to increase the supply of wishes and moonbeams in the US, all across the board.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 20
will they be touring the Condoleeza tankher?
the corduroy slacks should NOT end at the ankles.
ack. wrong word. didnt mean to say ankles.
too tired to joke.
off
to
pillow land
Anyone hungry? I’ve prepared quite a feast!
cleter @ 22
Aim big! A Prius…
I would settle for a used Corolla. Actually, I would settle for new tires for the Corolla that I have now.
night wig shack
TexBetsy @ 28
tres festive!
CTuttle @ 21
Not to mention the pens.
Very well. A Prius, nothing less! And a plane ticket to Albuqerque.
TRex @ 25
Why of course. After all, they have finally found a place to live…in the presence of the Lord.
TheOtherWA @ 18
This has to have something to do with their nefarious support of the “Colbert Candidacy”. Next thing they’ll have us all “off the grid and into the griddle”.
TRex’s water post last night got an Atrios link. TeddySF’s gonna be jealous.
TRex, and btw, hilarious post!
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 27
*sniff*
I slept all afternoon
TexBetsy @ 27
Looks yummy. I’ve spent the last two days in my own kitchen fixing stuff, and when I get to Richmond tomorrow I’ll be in my sister’s kitchen fixing even more stuff!
trex, i believe you are ready for membership in the Punditry Corps.
Valley Girl @ 38
Thank you, my dearest.
burnspbesq @ 35
Hilarious — you guys snap!
Suzanne @ 37
Suz- do tell! It was a great TRex post. Do you have a link?
TRex? Lexus?? What color?
Our plan is to keep things very simple for the holiday. I barely left the bed today. Major back pain.
Hail, gang, TRex, Muse, etc.
Suzanne @ 37
PW got a h/t from Think Progress…
Guess Santa hates all those oil covered birds from the California spill too.
Don’t get me started on API, TRex. We sank the Oil Rig Blind Faith up here last week.
Dumb question from me – maybe… Does anyone know how to embed html tags in an MSW document to send to somebody’s web site so they can load the article and the html tags show up voila!….?
Yeah I just saw Mr. Soros x-mas list on Facebook and FDLers gets tons of swag!!!!
TexBetsy @ 28
Oh, nooo… I forgot about dessert. I’ll take a couple of those pies if you don’t mind. And the beans look good. I’ll have that, too.
I can get the titles of the remaining three songs on the Blind Faith album into one sentence, and still be on topic.
Can you tell that I am sitting in an airport, waiting for a delayed flight, and bored out of my skull?
I believe that I could make some room in my panoply of motivations for simple greed and object-lust.
A simple thank-you card helps.
where are you headed burns?
Here ya go burnsie
burnspbesq @ 53
Can’t find my way home…
Hey buddy, that sleigh don’t fly on good will and best wishes, y’know.
;>)
VG, kinda busy at the minute – will get you the atrios link in a few
OT..Valerei Plame released this statement:
Nov. 20, 2007 10pm EST
Santa Fe, New Mexico–I am outraged to learn that former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan confirms that he was sent out to lie to the press corps and the American public about two senior White House officials, Karl Rove and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby who deliberately and recklessly revealed my identity as a covert CIA operations officer. Even more shocking, McClellan confirms that not only Karl Rove and Scooter Libby told him to lie but Vice President Cheney, Presidential Chief of Staff Andrew Card, and President Bush also ordered McClellan to issue his misleading statement. Unfortunately, President Bush’s commutation of Scooter Libby’s felony sentence has short-circuited justice.
Vice President Cheney in particular knew that Scooter Libby was involved because he had ordered and directed his actions. McClellan’s revelations provide important support for our civil suit against those who violated our national security and maliciously destroyed my career.
link
TexBetsy @ 46
I feel for ya, Ma’am! My Turkey Day was made much simpler, my Mother and Grandmother bowed out, last night… 8-(
darkblack @ 58
Hee hee — Santa drinks pimp juice *g*
dmg @ 41
absolutely, he’s brilliant!
TexBetsy @ 55
Home from SF.
So, TRex, have you applied for your War on Christmas bonus?
tw3k @ 51
Whoo-hooo!
Not too loud, though. We don’t want to make the kids at Crooks and Liars too jealous.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 26
My daughter thinks her ankles are fat, so she calls them cankles. Calf and ankle blending…
Elliott @ 63
Noooo! Then he’d be turned to shit :(
TRex @ 66
I was a spoiler :’(
burnspbesq @ 53
Blind Faith has a song called Bored Out Of My Skull?
I posted this EPU in the last branch, but thought it would be appropriate here, too.Milo Radulovich has Died.
Radulovich was the guy who took on Senator Joe McCarthy who painted him as a “Communist” and tried to get the WW2 Veteran discharged from the Air Force reserves on the weakest of evidence. His cause was embraced by Edward R. Murrow, who publicized the absurdity of the charges attacking Radulovich, his family and friends. Suddenly average people realized the poison of McCarthy’s campaign could impact not just faceless bureaucrats in Washington, but their neighbors and friends, if not their own lives.
burnspbesq @ 64
and you didn’t come visit me?
Christine Edmonson @ 57
Progressives had to cry today — the boondoggling wing nut bloggers, who do what they like, got so drunk on Chevron’s booze that they can’t find their way home.
neurophius @ 65
Yes, yes, of course.
I hear I may get bumped up for Hazardous Duty Pay this year, too. Unless those
mercenariesIndependent Contractors the State Department likes so much start edging us out in the War On Xmas, too.LoudounLib @ 62
Better that than grapefruit juice.
;>)
There’s a War on Christmas bonus? No one ever tells me nothing.
tw3k @ 51
Yay! Though I’d settle for an Open Society. I hear he’s got an Institute that produces those.
burnspbesq @ 73
Just waiting for the “John Barleycorn Must Die” and “Chinese Noodle Factory” references *g*
Suzanne @ 72
Sorry. Worked til 8, ate room service, and crashed.
Steve-AR @ 60
Legs.
cinnamonape @ 71
Thanks for the re-post. I’ve watched the original Murrow episodes, which are available on DVD. They are still compelling, and will give you chills.
Re my #78, I meant “Shanghai Noodle Factory” of course…duh…
LoudounLib @ 78
Glad I’m hanging out with y’all instead of staring at empty pages …
LoudounLib @ 78
Are we worried about air Traffic?
Redshift @ 77
All I want for Christmas is my country back. my country back.
While Frank and Schumer dick around watching our banks go broke, Harman and Lieberman work on Thought Police legislation.
The Shadow Government strikes again.
Please refresh my decades-old memories…there was only one Blind Faith album, correct?
The surest way to stop the police state would be to send, after 01/20/09, a copy of the Govt file to each American who requests it.
Atrios link
Let see, what might Mr. Soros drop down my chim-in-ey? Ya know what? i don’t care what it is. Just something. Anything. Selling out is nice. Selling out for it’s own sake is a pisser.
But hey, late night Fire Peoples, I dunno if I’ll be here tomorrow or if I am whenI might be here, so if I don’t see you, have a Happy Thanksgiving. Not to be schmaltzy, but I’m thankful I stumbled across this place when I was looking for someplace to wait for the Libby guilty verdicts.
Loo Hoo. @ 67
Great word.
When that happens to me, I know I’m not drinking enough water and I’m sitting too much. Sure enough, I start drinking more water and walking more, and bingo, the cankles are gone. Turned back into ankles once again.
neurophius @ 87
Correct
Beerfart Liberal @ 90
And we’re thankful you found us, Captain Beerfart.
neurophius @ 87
Yup. Although there are some fantastic clips on YouTube of Clapton and Winwood doing a couple of the Blind Faith songs live earlier this year.
TRex @ 93
but your facebook linky is not sending us to your profile
Happy Thanksgiving Beerfart – have a great one and hurry back to the lake when you can.
tex, lotsa folks are opting outta facebook due to its snooping. americablog has had a couple posts about it, including one today.
Ya gotta wonder, though, what the petroleum industry thinks they’ll accomplish with this particular bit of wingnut welfare. The level of sucking up is impressive, but they probably could have gotten it cheaper by buying the guys a dinner at a local buffet and giving them a lifetime supply of cheetos and a Lego™ model oil platform.
Well, the plane that was supposed to take me home 50 minutes ago has finally arrived. Time for me to go get a snack and some Diet Coke. See y’all at Late Late in about 2 1/2 hours.
burns is leaving on a jet plane
Safe travels burnsie, and happy Thanksgiving, as I probably won’t be around for Late Late.
Suzanne @ 97
Facebook stuff:
(snip)
In recent weeks, Facebook has implemented this new “feature” called Beacon. Beacon keeps track of purchases made through businesses that have contracted with Facebook for this service. If you buy a movie ticket through Fandango, or a rental from Blockbuster, Beacon sends around a note to your friends, so everybody will know you went to see American Gangster, or rented Sicko.
This is pernicious enough — does my conservative boss really need to know I spent Saturday night watching No End In Sight? — but from a privacy standpoint, it wouldn’t be quite so much so if you were given the chance to opt in or out of using Beacon. But, of course, you’re not. What you get is a very tiny Javascript link with every purchase — and a short window of time to click it if you don’t want this transaction broadcast to your entire Facebook network. If you don’t click that link, your business becomes everybody’s business.
(snip)
link
TexBetsy @ 95
What do you say? 707? I mean, I sorta gave up on the Facebook. Maybe I’ll try Diggs or whatever it is. I should just post a profile here.
Thanks everybody. And if anybody knows where you can get
realstrwberry rhubarb pie in Central Florida please let me know immediately. I miss my blue state.burnspbesq @ 93
…And some live tracks on a Steve Winwood comp released in the ’90’s.
Steve-AR @ 102
Yeah, that’s it. I “opted out.”
What is the Diggs thing?
Suzanne @ 97
This probably why my kids told me to stay away — I already have some govt. record from the 1971 Moratorium March in D.C.
Steve, that would explain the Blockbuster ad that I see in my FB news feed.
I’m going to opt outta FB but want to tell all my FB folks why and how to get ahold of me.
Oh,
ChristJimminy Cricket! It’s almsot 10 ’til tomorrow. I had no idea it was so late.Night.
g’night BF, happy Thanksgiving
yikes!
what’s the solution? de-activate facebook?
Suzanne @ 109
As the opt outs go viral, Mr Facebook might wish he had taken the billion or so that was offered by (MS?).
Suzanne @ 109
Yeah. That’s why I tried to get into it— so I could e-mail somebody with a comment, thought or whatever without taking up space here. Like if it more personal or conversational.
Suzanne @ 89
Thanks, Suz.
TexBetsy @ 111
yeah, you can but i wanna send out a f/b message and delete all my pictures and stuff first before – otherwise, all that stuff STAYS is the way i read their deactivate stuff
So is their problem that they are unworthy or that they have no audience to influence or that no one credits their opinion or that they wouldn’t know how to use the damn iPhone even if Steve Jobs gave them one?
??
Rightwing bloggers: so many reasons not to swag them, so little time.
TexBetsy @ 28
That’s a beautiful table you’ve set for us, TexBetsy. Thank you!
Teddy, Trex got an Atrios link the day after you said you wanted one.
Suzanne @ 100
Oh yeah! Let’s hope that he isn’t sitting on the tarmac for hours.
Steve-AR @ 113
I thought he did
Christine Edmonson @ 120
Or he might need “White Bird”
skeptic @ 118
Betsy, is that a chocolate-dipped pumpkin?!? or just shadow.
Scientists found an early relative of Scottie Mac (sorta looks like him too) – I wonder if TRex munched on these when he was a young therapod before he developed a taste for trolls?
Therapod-on-arthropod violence.
Not pretty.
Something tonight seems weird. Like we all know something wrong is happening in America. Not that we haven’t known this for a while, but it seems ampt up. Am I batshit crazy?
Not crazy. Feels like fangs are getting bared on all sides. Something preparatory.
Loo Hoo. @ 125
the wave of conciousness is sweeping across america – and the msm are trying to figure out which way the wind is blowing is what i am hoping – and not an ill wind blowing with worse to come
Loo Hoo. @ 126
Yes, you are batshit crazy, as are we all.
Me, I’m on edge because I’m really worried about the water shortage.
But, time’s up! I’m out of here.
See you guys at Late Late Nite.
I think it’s the Scotty book. Seems like a turning point to me.
OK, I sit corrected on the batshit crazy issue.
newtonusr @ 129
I truly don’t know who to vote for (in the Democratic Party), and this REALLY bothers me.
Earlier in the day, I thought I might actually manage a substantive blog essay today, but instead, I did this.
Some of you might enjoy a couple of the links though. Or the bouncy, bouncy yellow balls. :)
Happy Thanksgiving TRex, I’ll be outta here in a few…
newtonusr @ 128
Prove it…Using geometric logic
;.)
Happy thanksgiving, I guess…
Suzanne @ 128
You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows
Who all is going somewhere or will otherwise be away from the Lake for the holidays?
so how about a ning site if there is exodus from facebok?
LoudounLib @ 138
Oh, you Kid!
Me, Suz — heading to Richmond VA
tw3k @ 121
Just sold a “small part”
(snip)
The $240 million price Microsoft paid for a 1.6 percent stake in Facebook demonstrates just how badly the world’s largest software maker wanted to deepen its relationship with a startup that doesn’t even have $200 million in annual revenue.
(snip)
Already considered a whiz kid, Zuckerberg, 23, now looks even smarter for rebuffing a $1 billion takeover offer from Yahoo Inc. last year. And Facebook now should have more than enough money to pay for its expansion until it is ready to go public.
AP
darkblack @ 136
gah, hojo on Bogart is just wrong, lol.
LoudounLib @ 137
must bust in early may orders from the da
Suzanne @ 139
Hi Suzanne! Sitting at best friends table with lots of pals and son Jack. Making cranberry pie and turkey gravy. Hoping for snow.
tw3k @ 144
I thought it was HoJo on Don Knotts …
Evenin’ all !
I’ll be on later than usual Thursday, but in town.
Suzanne @ 128
Take me back to knocking, please.
((( Petro )))
tw3k @ 143
“Ah, but the pharma lobbies! That’s where I had them, you see…”
;>)
They’re just getting two days of food and lodging and junketing to become petro-whores?
Christ, the market has gone down! They should hold out for a couple of long-legged, high-assed Houston hookers, at the least.
And maybe a modest little portfolio of their own, quietly bestowed, down the line.
Christine Edmonson @ 146
Pie ?!! … Christine, have I ever told you how much I loove you ?!! *g*
Petrocelli @ 146
How dare you blaspheme the sainted Fife, you …you fur trapper!
;>)
LoudounLib @ 150
LL & Chimay sitting on a swing … *g*
((((( LL )))))
Christine Edmonson @ 133
Christine, try this Glassbooth candidate quiz. It lets you weight your answers according to how strongly you feel on a range of issues. It worked for me.
http://glassbooth.org/
Suzanne @ 119
{ ** weeping ** }
darkblack @ 154
707 !!!
Petrocelli @ 155
I’m taking some red cap to Richmond tomorrow so my brother-in-law and my dad can experience it ;-)
Tanbark @ 152
***
Tanbark: My favorite part of the brag was their planned “lengthy Q&A with Chevron representatives.” Cause everybody knows you can’t break Chevron’s will and make them tell you the awful truth in just a normal-length Q&A period…
darkblack @ 151
707!
TeddySanFran @ 156
sorry, honey, but i figured you would be better off knowing from a friend than everyone else knowing and no one telling ya
come sit over here, hon, i’ve got some chocolate cake to drown your troubles in
Petrocelli @ 153
Oh PIE! Nantucket Cranberry Pie by Laurie Colwin. Google this and I hope the Gourmet recipe will appear. This is shortbread with a layer of cranberries and walnuts underneath.
And there is beaucoup d’amour involved here…
…mmmMMMmmm… …chocolate cake….
Dinner run! Back in a few.
neurophius @ 156
707!
Mike Gravel shares a 100% similarity with your beliefs
is he still in?
Christine Edmonson @ 133
Where are you located? Do you get an early primary vote?
Me? I’m going for Clinton. My reasoning is that WE MUST WIN. There can be no other republican in the WH or our country is dead. Period, over.
Hillary has the smarts, the raw guts, and the machinery behind her to win.
If we lose this time, it’s all over.
My opinion. Too important right now to be ideological. We can do that later.
tw3k, I believe Gravel is still in — although I don’t think he was at the last debate
Christine Edmonson @ 107
Well that’s why 1) my facebook doesn’t have my actual name, and 2) I wouldn’t fucking buy bubblegum thru facebook.
I figured something was up when I first registered as PB FDL and got unceremoniously booted when I asked them a support question. Not, “Please give us a proper name on this account in 24 hours,” but an instant deletion of account. Uh, *huh* sez I.
So, random (well not exactly totally random) name later, and there I am. I appreciate the networking with other firepups. But facebook doesn’t have a single bit of real information on me.
LoudounLib @ 159
Sounds like those two gentlemen will have a divine experience tomorrow … *g*
- “Wow, LL … this is great Beer, how did you find it?”
- “Well, I heard about it from this meditation teacher …” - Beer spewed across the table … *g*
Oh, and “Evening, all!!” :-) The post and the first fifty odd comments had me 7O7. Thanks, guys, you’re the best.
TeddySanFran @ 156
Awright, awright…Cut the waterworks
;>)
Petrocelli @ 169
707!! And you don’t know how true that is…they’d be horrified! *g*
Christine Edmonson @ 163
No no, I don’t make anything … I’m a yoga teacher, I make things (seem) better … *g*
Loo Hoo. @ 166
Yes Loo Hoo, to all of the above, and of course I’ll vote for the Dem candidate. I’m in VILE Ohio (Oh, the shame). What can I do with such voter corruption?
But first, discs containing the personal details of 25 million Britons have gone missing in the post.
Involuntary disclosure of personal info appears to be Meme of the Day.
Suzanne @ 162
cake !!
… easily distracted
:: waving at pb ::
EPU’d from last nite late late thread – a great recapping in the early morning hours by newspaperbrat of the saturday meetup.
newspaperbrat @ 193
peanutbutter @ 168
Brothers (and Sisters) in Arms…
Christine Edmonson @ 163
This one it?
http://www.completerecipes.com/126844.htm
Astral Technician @ 137
Dear Heaven’s sake. What an easy fix. A simple law. American souvieners must be made in America. Is that a difficult concept?
LoudounLib @ 172
Because of my vocation or that I like Beer, despite my vocation ?
‘This Is Your Moment’
;>)
Made in America? What a concept!
Petro, I probably chose the wrong word — they’re just total red-staters and very traditional, and they don’t hold with any kind of so-called “new age-y” stuff, if you know what I mean.
Loo Hoo. @ 166
HRC seems to have a lock on the nomination, what with Bush’s endorsement and all … *g*
LoudounLib @ 185
Gotcha !!! *g*
Thanks for the geography quiz, RevDeb.
peanutbutter @ 181
Yes! And my family and friends love it. LC died some years ago, she used to have a monthly column in Gourmet, and loved to cook with her little daughter. I miss her.
Huckabee essentially tied with Romney in Iowa:
The GOP moneymen, aristocrats, and Owners must be shittin’ their britches. I read a coupla months ago that 80% of Bush/Cheney big donors from 2000 and 2004 had donated to no one this cycle — wonder how that number’s holding up?
No, LooHoo; you’re as right as a snake. Susan, too.
We are literally entering a period of our history where anything could happen…all the way from a corporate petro-Reich, or something like it, to the death of the republican party. Or maybe, the death of the democratic party.
It is a little bit nerve-wracking, but if we can hold our mud, and not buy into the time-distortion plan of the the bushmasters and their supporters, and if we can keep hitting them with the Iraq cattle-prod, then we have a great chance to reduce the jingos and their twisted world-view to the status of a carbuncle on the ass of the american political scene.
But we HAVE to have a candidate who is outraged at what they’ve done. Meeting them halfway is the same old prescription for disaster that’s been ruining us all along.
We cannot afford “bi-partisanship” in this one. If WE define the political debate in the terms of lies and bullshit and blood and chaos and huge unnecessary expenditures of treasure, and of the mortgaging of our future and of our kids’ future, and if we pick a nominee who will lead the american people to their outrage at bush and his coterie of country-wreckers, then they will follow.
Direct: If we want bi-partisanship, just nominate Edwards or Obama; turn them loose on bush and the GOP’s asses; let the petroborgs watch the bottom drop out of the support for them, and they will hand us bush and the neo-cons political heads on spikes, as the first down-payment on “bipartisanship”.
We have a YEAR with which to hammer them. But we need someone with the will and the un-ambiguous fire in their belly, to do the hammering.
Sorry; that should have been “Suzanne”… :o)
Petrocelli @ 188
:: wiping brow :: anyway — I hope they’ll enjoy the new experience ;-)
Suzanne, if Josh Marshall and Ron Paul can make GQ men of the year, there’s hope for TRex yet…
http://men.style.com/gq/featur…..ntent_6197
Josh is photo 28 & 29, and, RP is 57…
peanutbutter @ 168
LoudounLib @ 78
it’s only a paper sun for 40,000 blogmen.
CTuttle @ 192
GQ has issues in their dealing with TRex – I think they just pretend to not discriminate against green scales.
punaise @ 195
excellent!
Petrocelli @ 186
What? Petro, please explicky.
TexBetsy @ 112
Seems that is the best a person can do. I couldn’t find any way to actually delete the account. So a disembodied Fern and her email address will be floating endlessly somewhere in the Facebook ether.
LoudounLib @ 192
I go to lots of parties where someone asks me about my vocation just as I’m sipping a cocktail … it shocks the h*ll out of them … *g*
great recap, npb. for the record, it was pear and onion Cheese Board pizza from Berkeley’s gourmet ghetto.
Fern, just make sure you delete as much info you have put in as possible before deactivating. That way that stuff is still not floating around for f/b servers to use.
I’m really, really looking forward to a couple of days away with the fam in Richmond, but conversely I really, really hope I can avoid getting tangled up in arguments about politics and the environment. My sis recently told me that my brother-in-law claims that hybrid vehicles are worse for the environment than conventional vehicles. Huh. And the patriarch on that side of the family is just an entrenched Old Virginia gooper, but I still love him.
Gotta love those family dynamics!
Christine Edmonson @ 174
Work for the candidate you like for the Secretary of State position. Here in California, fortunately, we will be voting with pen and paper! All hail Debra Bowen!
That’s perhaps the most important candidate to work for, Christine. MHO!
punaise @ 200
and it was magnificent!
cleter @ 17
I WANT to go to Albuquerque to visit my brother and friends.
Mr. Soros? George? Ahem…if you aren’t too busy, we could use a little help, here?
Speaking as someone who lives here, I don’t think I’d call an all-expenses-paid trip to Houston a “perk”, even after you factor in the margaritas. I like to tell people it’s a great place to live, but you wouldn’t want to visit here.
Loo Hoo. @ 198
I read somewhere earlier that Bush43 says only HRC has the experience to be President … hunting for the link now …
Frank Probst @ 206
The fact they are excited about going to Houston just proves they would gladly take a trip to hell, as long as it was on someone else’s dime.
Fern @ 199
You know, it’s worse than I thought. I’ve been looking this up a bit more, and in truth, I would not only ding Facebook, but also the other mother effin’ companies that are effin’ SENDING the info to facebook in the first effin’ place!!!.
Yeah, that’s right. It’s not just a matter of not buying things “through” facebook. If you buy from certain third parties that have opted to pass along the info to facebook, that is getting published.
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
I’m looking for a list of these frickin’ companies because THEY NEED TO BE BOYCOTTED AS WELL.
*fume*
LoudounLib @ 197
Suzanne @ 209
ding
PB, any idea which companies those are?
pb, americablog has been diggin into it – try looking over there – i seem to recall something about some of the companies who give the info to f/b over there when it happened to one of their writers.
Petrocelli @ 208
It came from Gibson’s interview of Shrub and Laura, on today’s broadcast…
punaise, I am in awe *g*
i bow before the master – wow, pun
TexBetsy @ 213
I’m lookin’! *fume*
is my blue F gone?
LoudounLib @ 216
cheating – I have the Best of Traffic CD in rotation in my car lately…
TexBetsy @ 213
here are some on the FB blog
you are d’f’ed tex
Suz- thanks for the head’s up about the Americablog coverage of facebook.
I found one link:
Facebook, the new Big Brother
snip~~~From what we’ve been able to glean, Facebook automatically opts its users in to this privacy-violating pyramid scheme and the only way you can get out of it is by visiting every single one of Facebook’s corporate partners (whoever they are, we only know about Fandango at this point), and telling each and every one (if you can figure out where to tell them this) to stop publishing your private information on Facebook. ~~~
so is the general consensus to ditch FB?
Fandango is one.
punaise @ 220
Share the list please! My kids have turned us onto iTunes…
well, some days it pays to be a hermit who doesn’t shop much. haven’t bought a thing online in 2 months and not from any of those companies in much longer.
This song is so nice I had to play it twice…I posted it last night in honor of the CA firepups, but it didn’t get any reaction. Enjoy :-)
punaise @ 224
Well, I’d ditch it if you have an account with your actual name & info on it…
peanutbutter @ 229
Is it cookie-based, or does it use your email addy?
i gather it will tell your f/b friends when you go to the movies, when you rent dvds, and includes the title of the movies – so everyone knows what you are watching.
punaise @ 224
Hey Punaise! I luvs ya.
Not a hard decision for me, b/c I never joined FB. I have good qualities, but I also have a very suspicious mind. And, their “terms of agreement” basically let them do what ever they hell the want to do with your/ one’s info.
CTuttle @ 215
Yes, he and Laura gave HRC a couple of pats on the back while Shrub smackdowned Barack … at least he didn’t call him Osama … *g*
punaise @ 224
no me, I like posting maladministration stuff.
You can delete FB albums and applications one at a time (just did) but deleting friends is a one at a time proposition.
TexBetsy @ 235
lol, yeah, and groups!
LoudounLib @ 227
nice!
I was a free man in Paris
I felt unfettered and alive
Fern @ 199
I’m so happy I never joined Facebook. Now I can say I sensed this invasion of privacy was to come, and look prescient.
punaise @ 237
I was a free man in Paris…
punaise @ 237
there was nobody calling me up for favors
nobody’s future to decide
Suzanne @ 202
There wasn’t really anything much there to begin with – the whole fb thingie turned out not to really interest me, and I had reservations about putting my life out there for the world to see.
Ya know …. it occurs to me …. this FB thing may actually get more Americans to care about the privacy of their information. May even insist on privacy from the government and such.
argh. been waiting for the troubadour anniversary shows featuring james taylor/carole king to go on sale and tickets are $225 a pop. for a one hour show. think i’ll have to pass.
for any superfans out there here’s the link. shows are 9/28, 29, 30. 7pm and 10pm.
http://www.tixforcharity.com/m…..TeamId=156
yeah Joni is good :)
Christine Edmonson @ 226
Paper Sun
Heaven Is In Your Mind
Hole In My Shoe
Pearly Queen
Forty Thousand Headmen
Feelin’ Alright
Shanghai Noodle Factory
Dear Mr. Fantasy
John Barleycon Must Die
Glad
Freedom Rider
Low Spark of High Healed Boys
etc…
((( Joni )))
tw3k @ 244
Yeah, she is great.
TexBetsy @ 230
As near as I can tell, it’s worse than that. Fandango knows who you are via your credit card. It is apparently passing that name along to Facebook which looks for a match (probably including address info, which would also be included in a credit purchase).
The more I think about this, the more I believe this is outright illegal. I know that when I’ve created shopping cart sites, I have to pay attention to legal requirements on protecting the privacy of this information…
LL, thank you so much for Joni! Such a sweet voice, so young…this song made me so homesick for California when I was in college.
peanutbutter @ 229
well, a certain Mr.Pun Aise is in for a big surprise.
Hi Mommybrain, you’re entirely welcome :-) I love me some Joni!
Fern @ 241
Same here, I just try to use it as an aggregator.
not to be untoward, but
“I could drink a case of you”
Maybe one of the behind-the-sceners here has some mad skills and can whip up a few wordpress mods to do most of what we use facebook for.
TexBetsy @ 242
I hope you’re right
LoudounLib @ 246
So how do you feel about Facebook? And not that you want to know, but I’m here in Cleveland from the east coast for years. What say you? “Joni” I love you!
peanutbutter @ 248
apple and smalldog are the only sites I’ve bought from and that was before 911
punaise @ 253
uh. mah. gawd.
I luuuurrrve this song.
My comment is in mod — what’d I do? :-(
Coyote’s staring a hole in his scrambled eggs
Was Scott McClellan our November surprise ?
LoudounLib @ 257
you quoted pun who triggered the filters
Fandango.com, Overstock.com, and Kongregate.com.
Boycott.
This is the press release from the fb:
Tanbark @ 191
Hillary is certainly not perfect. We don’t know what any of the democrats really stand for at this point, but we know that we need someone tough enough to stand up to the crap that Rove will shovel out. Hillary just proved that she can do this, and Obama just proved that he cannot. We need Hillary now in so many ways. Our country will be lost forever if we don’t win.
I agree that she is not the perfect candidate for those of us on the left, but at this point in time, perfection is not the goal.
Suzanne @ 262
oops… was it “dr*nk” or “c*se”?
Late Late up up now now!
Christine Edmonson @ 256
I’m ambivalent about Facebook at this point — basically, I ain’t afeared. And I think we’ve talked before about the Cleveland area — my mom grew up there, and we visited up there a lot in the area…nice memories!
Fern @ 264
Sorry, my comment got buried in that long quote. What I meant to say was:
It does sound from this like fb allows folks to opt in or out for each transaction, but that still does not address the privacy and security issues.
Hrmmm. I’m part of LJ but there’s only so much personal info i put on it. I’m glad i left most of it off FB since they seem to require a helluva lot more personal info than LJ does by far. Even after the buyout a few years back. I never put my real name into any of them, by the way.
I joined LJ back when it was still being run by the original CEO, Brad. Where it wasn’t part of that Beacon thingy.
Fern @ 264
*Livejournal*? Goddammit. Do you have a linky for that press release? Because I’m going to burn LJ over this one too.
BAH.
peanutbutter @ 271
and EW is on TypePad.
peanutbutter @ 271
Why yes, my dear, I do:
http://www.facebook.com/press/releases.php?p=9166
Yeah, SixApart have been sneaky, i see. I sincerely doubt Brad would have bought into this crap. I’m just glad i joined when i did, when Brad was still in charge in 2003. I’m pretty sure they don’t have a buncha personal info on me from that time period.
LoudounLib @ 167
Apparently too low in the polls, so they forced him to set up a card-table out on the street and walk about in a sandwich board while dressed in sackcloth to decry the Iraq War.
BTW I found a link to Statements All the Major Presidential Candidates Made to the Israel Project regarding their policies in respect to Iran. It includes statements from Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Biden and Dodd as well as Giuliani, McCain, and Romney and others.
Sadly I can’t access the statements because the files are not compatible with my outdated software. So I’m offering this “blind”. I actually have no idea what he, or the other candidates say to the Israel Project. I’d appreciate excerpts or summaries of whether the candidates a) consider that Iraq is working toward a nuclear weapon, b) have the right to nuclear power, c) require preconditions (like recognizing Israel) for negotiations with Iran, d) consider Iran, or a sector of the Iranian regime (i.e. the Revolutionary Gaurds) a supporter of terrorism. It would also be interesting to see if they make particular comments about the Palestinians, Lebanon, Israel, Syria or other regional issues in these Speeches. I suppose that they might, given that these statements are being proferred to the Israel Project….a pro-Israel lobbying group that gives free helicopter flights to US politicians over the Israel-Lebanese-Syrian border areas.
After my presenting the link to Edwards Herzliya statements and being accused of being a propagandist for an “undeclared candidate” because Edwards has “changed his rhetoric” from January 200, I thought that I should check his more recent remarks.
But others are welcome to compare and contrast them. They seem to date from late July of this year.
I thinks it interesting to see (although I can’t because of the
newtonusr @ 129
heh heh..
newspaperbrat @ 276
Evening, npb! As you arrive, I’m fading out…
Christine Edmonson @ 133
You can experience buyer’s remorse with any candidate if you expect something and don’t get it.
In that vein you could vote for Hillary and never expect anything in particular and never be disappointed.
Pretty much the same goes for Obama since all he’s promising is ‘change you can believe in’, not necessarily any actual change, just the kind you can believe in.
Edwards, on the other hand, promises a lot and if he doesn’t deliver you would be very pissed. But, at least he says what he’s promising.
Other candidates are hardly noticed and covered, so it’s hard to say what they offer or actually do. But, that’s less important than knowing the media won’t let any of them be elected.
Heinz Baked Beans!!!
juniper952 @ 279
…the musical fruit!
“Stool pigeons” isn’t hyphenated. And your use of the term seems pretty strange. While I see in the dictionary that the first two meanings identify a stool pigeon as a bird or person used as a “decoy,” the third meaning, which the dictionary identifies as “colloquial,” is the only one most people have ever heard of–a stool pigeon is an informant or “rat.”
One would think you could use a more normal word, like “decoy,” that people could actually understand, rather than using an archaic word or phrase in an archaic way. Why send everybody to a dictionary trying to figure out why you are calling right-wing bloggers stoolies?
Its cute when they try to play grownup.
The petroleum industry is packed to the rafters with “good people”, of course.
I lived on the fringe of the oil patch in TX for a couple of years way back when. Oil folk who work the fields are no different than coal miners, lumberjacks, folks who pave roads, work in the sewers or jump out of helicopters to rescue people. It can be dangerous, dirty, hard, thankless work. Folks like Emile Beaudreaux work hard to get the platform producing because that’s how they get in line for bonuses. And at $100/bbl, the oil patch is making money again, albeit on a dwindling resource.
API, on the other hand, is evil incarnate. Worse than a rightwing think tank, and better funded, anything that even remotely questions The Good, Great Wonderfulness of Oil is a sworn enemy to the API. It’s a wolf to the core: travels in numbers, devours its prey, fights relentlessly for its territory. It is entities like the API that put two Texas oilmen in the White House – it should surprise no one that oil is more expensive than ever, the US is more dependent on it than ever, and that entities like the API will shanghai all comers to its causes.
Until US consumers escape from the shackles of SUVs, suburban sprawl and unsustainable lifestyles, creatures like the API will remain a force to be reckoned with. Such creatures will fight tooth and nail to the death to hang on to what they’ve got.