The LA Times has a feature on Hollywood’s Money Palaces, which they compare to “Versailles,” and how Presidential candidates are raking in contributions from wealthy Tinseltown donors. All that’s missing are tales of naked vixens diving to the bottom of champagne-filled swimming pools for pearls.
Let’s have a look at who this list includes:
. Billionare Ron Burkle and his “stunning Green Acres estate” where benefits bring in $1 million a pop for the Clintons
. Rob Reiner’s Brentwood home, “sacred grounds for the ghosts of Hollywood liberals.“
. Norman Lear, “a prolific donor to Democratic candidates, is constantly hosting parties.”
. Arianna Huffington, who “runs Hollywood’s hottest salon” (and is the anti-war proprietress of the Huffington Post, so we know where she stands — cough)
. Bruce Cohen, “a serious Democratic fundraiser and longtime Hillary Clinton supporter.”
. Haim Saban, who “rallied Hollywood’s Democrats there at a fundraiser for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.”
Gee. What conclusion am I supposed to draw here? What’s left out? Thinking…thinking…
Oh, now I remember:
When Rudolph Giuliani raised money in Brentwood on Monday night, there were few, if any, jokes about the plight of Republicans in Hollywood, and no apologies for anyone being there.
And that in itself gives some longtime GOPers in the industry hope. After years in the political wilderness, where they have felt all but marginalized in an era of strident, anti-Bush rhetoric, they are encouraged by the candidacy of Giuliani and of John McCain.
[]
But despite the perception that Hollywood is a predominantly liberal industry, the actual figures show that it isn’t so lopsided. In the past couple of election cycles, approximately one-third of entertainment industry money went to Republican candidates. Even Bush collected $1.4 million from entertainment sources in 2004 to John Kerry’s $3.5 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
That’s a sum significant enough to create a dash for donors among the Giuliani and McCain camps. Each has been laying the groundwork for support of well-known industry figures for quite some time, even if their fund-raising in entertainment circles isn’t at the same breakneck pace of their Democratic counterparts.
McCain has long had ties to Hollywood, where through the years even liberals have been intrigued by his maverick status, even if they are not supporting him in the race. Two years ago, McCain and Murphy lunched at the Grill with Warren Beatty.
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MGM chief exec Harry Sloan, a member of McCain’s national finance committee, hosted a fund-raiser for the Arizona senator in January. Univision’s Jerry Perenchio is one of McCain’s national co-chairs. And on March 13, McCain is scheduled to visit Hollywood again at a $1,000-per-person luncheon at the Beverly Hilton.
Giuliani, meanwhile, attracted a crowd of more than 150 people at a fund-raiser at the home of former Ambassador Rockwell Schnabel and his wife, Marna. It was not an industry-centric fund-raiser on par with Obama’s star-studded Beverly Hilton event two weeks ago, but it did draw such names as Gary Sinise, attorney Bruce Ramer, Bernie Brillstein, Dyan Cannon and writer-director Lionel Chetwynd.
“He’s a very authentic leader, and I believe there will be a lot of Republicans, Democrats and independents who will vote for him,” says Brillstein-Grey CEO Jon Liebman, one of the co-chairs of the event. Liebman, a former assistant U.S. attorney, worked for Giuliani.
I’m sure leaving out the fact that people like Adam Sandler and Kelsey Grammar have given money to Giuliani, or that he has been endorsed by Robert DuVall, was sheer oversight on the part of the LA Times and not an attempt to paint Democrats as monied, Hollywood liberal elites.
Here’s the dirty little secret — Hollywood isn’t really liberal. As a community it has strong and large conservative strains, particularly at the top of the business side where all the strings get pulled (see: Murdoch, Rupert). The reason Hollywood conservatives like to bitch about being persecuted is because victimology is part of the whole right-wing shtick, not because Joel Surnow actually suffers for his political beliefs. I mean, does anyone think that The 1/2 Hour News Hour was anything other than a wingnut welfare operation?
I guess “balance” is only something you do to make sure right-wing talking points make their way into an otherwise reality-based article.
Well played, LA Times.
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Zed?
4th :)
LOL….
They are determined to put Giuliani into power…can you imagine Giuliani/Cheney????
Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
The Hollywood Liberal Myth has about as much truth to it as the Liberal Media Myth does.
I think there are more Rich Conservatives than there are Rich Liberals.
Well, maybe that’s because I’m such a poor liberal. I mean a good liberal with no money.
Actually. If truth were known, I like liberals.
Some folks are gunnsa vote for Rudy cause he thinks blow jobs are OK and if ya knock up yer mistress- he thinks it’s ok to ditch the evidence.
Jane!
My understanding has always been that the only thing Hollywood really cared about (facetiously speaking of course) was whether a particular show/movie/project made money. And if it made money, the participants could pretty much say whatever they wanted.
I also seem to remember that there have always been a lot of “conservatives” in Hollywood such as folks like Robert Taylor and Bob Hope and many others. Seems to me those folks were not kept down or insulted for their “views.”
Of course, I may be an id10t.
Fabulous strawman.
People who compare these piece of shit mansions to Versailles haven’t been to Versailles.
The reason Hollywood conservatives like to bitch about being persecuted is because victimology is part of the whole right-wing shtick — Jane Hamsher
.
yep.
Gotta admit that this line brought a chuckle:
Religious conservatives have made victimhood an art form..
If you listen to them- christians are bein fed to the Lions daily in the US of A- cause of the godless liberals ya know.
Must be tough to be persecuted when you have millions in the bank.
AZ Matt @ 14
You know how it is, you just send them to the back gate.
Hmmm…Giuliani down to 16% from 24% since September in New Hampshire…
Where are the naked pearl divers?
rwcole @ 13
dakine01 @ 12
How on earth can any democrats rally at the sight of “mr.-put-in-office-courtesy-of-Enron”? I am confused.
I have read it said that Jesus Christ was a liberal. Of course I don’t purport to be in possession of that kind of insight. But, this kind of proposition does appear to be an interesting philosophical proposal. I cannot say I am not in sympathy with this view. Perhaps.
((((((((((JANE!))))))))))
FDL – a link with sanity & incomparable snark!
OT..Hmmmmmm
WASHINGTON (AP) — Rachel Paulose, the embattled U.S. attorney for Minnesota, will be leaving the post to take a position at the Justice Department in Washington, according to a Bush administration official and congressional aide.
link
Something about deck chairs?
LS @ 4
a freak show!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 20
are you sure about that?
rachel Paulose is going back to DC.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/n…..lert_4.php
In this coming election, which are the liberals running for president?
Steve-AR @ 22
I love this!
Probably need to spiff up the HR department at Main Justice.
Kelsey Grammar gave money to The Ghoul??
Frasier….is one of THEM…?
Bummer.
:o(
OT..The Iraqi’s aren’t backing down..this could get interesting..
Iraqi soldiers detained two American security guards along with several other foreigners traveling Monday in a private security convoy after they opened fire in Baghdad, wounding one woman, an Iraqi military spokesman said
link
may @ 24
That’s funny. I like it. ;0)
dakine01 @ 8
Well it seems there have been a rash of rah, rah films attempting to create what happened on Flight such and such and so on. Then there are the Pearl Harbour films with iconic shots next to a flag that make me squirm so badly I avoid blockbuster and have now developed a taste for “degenerate” little films made on $100,000 or less (I find the acting more interesting in those). But that’s me I am perverse. I do think 9/11 films (minus documentaries) are in incredibly poor taste.
Yet another reason to loathe Adam Sandler.
Sometimes good movies make a profit.
Edgewater Joe @ 32
I thought he was funny. I cna’t believe he’s a repug.
mui @ 34
I can’t believe he’s an actor.
rwcole @ 10
I remember reading that the English considered Versailles dirty in all ways.
Twain @ 35
Very good!
Jane said: “I guess “balance” is only something you do to make sure right-wing talking points make their way into an otherwise reality-based article.”
And right-wing talking points can only be balanced with more right-wing talking points.
It’s the rule, doncha know?
newtonusr @ 37
Happy Birthday, Newt
Haven’t checked to see if this is posted already, but it feels good to say it anyway. Paulose is out in MN!!
I believe strongly that Hollywood has done a pretty darn good job. Those folks have given us so many flicks which cut the the heart of ‘matters’.
OT: O’Hanlon and AEI Kagan advocate pre-emptive strike on Pakistan. thinkprogress.org
Tom Friedman of the “Friedman Unit” thinks Obama/Cheney is the ticket.
(These are the serious…thinkers. lol)
Well thank you Twain.
Must go to work eventually…
OT
Sniff ,sniff,
please pass the Charmin.
gbear @ 40
Yeah, but she’s going to the Justice Dept. in DC.
mui @ 31
FWIW, I was stationed in Hawaii while in the AF. The building I worked in had been an enlisted barracks at the start of the war and still bore the scars and bullet holes as a reminder. It is a very sobering thing to see 50 cal (or whatever the caliber was) bullet holes in the steel steps you walk up and down every day.
Steve-AR @ 22
No, all the better to “help” with the DOJ investigation of her tenure here in Minnesota.
With all the DOJ resignations, they ain’t got nobody to work on the Paulouse…oops, I meant Paulose investigation.
And using “Junya’s Logic”, it seems best if Rachel does the work since she knows the most about it.
Makes a kinda sense, doncha know?
xanthippe @ 28
Richard Dreyfuss was one of them as well … until he spent a couple of years in England getting educated …
ACLU torture memo lawsuit.
What’s Abu up to these days anyway. Public speaking engagements?
Just imagine a world without movies.
newtonusr @ 27
Someone needs to take Monica Goodling’s job, don’t they?
-S
dakine01 @ 46
Yes the reality is very different from the films though, non?
OKK
You said some say Jesus was a Liberal.
I’ve read a lot of what people have written of what He said. ‘Course…they wrote it down a long time after he died. And then, his words were translated into different languages…and then the Roman Catholic Church did a pass, but, from what I’ve read, I’d say he was a Radical.
(and, I bet he would have dug the shit out of you…really. And, Lahoma too.
Just my opinion.
I suppose you could say I am a raging radical liberal. But one of my favorite actors is John Wayne.
Newt! It’s your birthday? Happy Happy Happy!
mui @ 49
Problem is he has to pay people to show up.
Strategerie @ 51
Save the taxpayers money; the investigators can take the elevator to interview her.
Hopefully Hollywood will start turning out anti-war, anti police state movies. A couple of weeks ago I saw a trailer for a movie called “Stop Loss”. The story line..Soldier serves in Iraq..hero..comes home..day before discharge get orders to go back..refuses and gets into a shit storm of trouble. Assuming it is Troops good..evil Thug military machine bad, it might influence some lizard brains.
I can’t stand any film that exploits war, national tragedy etc. with iconic idiotically patriotic cardboard actors, formulaic plots and used up dialogue, and sexy “females” and Kate what’s her name. Apparently Primo Levi felt the same way about depictions of the Holocaust. I understand him better now.
marymccurnin @ 56
*sniff* … poor AbuG … all he did was follow
Rovethe law … *sniff*Oklahoma kiddo @ 54
Dood,
look at the time stamps of my #9 and your #10.
Did you “Vibe” the radical out of the ether?
Steve-AR @ 58
Yeah, yeah! a little more V and that Will Smith movie.
more on the Paulose resignation from MN Monitor:
http://www.minnesotamonitor.co…..aryId=2770
Petrocelli @ 60
And Addington. Is there a nickname for Addington?
mui @ 52
Well, for that particular time, the movie Tora Tora Tora seems to be reasonably close to accurate, all things considered. One of those films where they took some care to add in some of the little vignettes for accuracy. And it was filmed on location for Pearl/Hickam and other islands spots.
oh, gosh I mean my 2:09 (#53) and your 2:10 (#54).
y’all must think I’m crazy.
ah…gotcha.
mui @ 64
Dividington
Laura Ingraham says shut up and donate.
The poor GOP still thinks they have to respect Red Dawn because it was a conservative film.
Talk about low expectations.
-GSD
dakine01 @ 65
Yes but what I heard some Holocaust survivors and veterans as well talk of is that no movie comes close to the sights, the smells, the utter disorientation, the despair, of war and KZ death lagers/prisons. There are some who despise Hollywood filmmakers for making a crude buck of the tragedy and putting sexy guys in there. I think the Bridge over the River Kwai survivors protested over every inaccuracy of the movie and there was a lot.
I hope all of you got an invitation to Heath’s holiday party. wouldn’t want you to feel left out. I wanted to reply that when he becomes a Dem, I will become a donor. Phooey.
marymccurnin @ 67
Adder- tongue ?!! *g*
Petrocelli @ 71
Adder. Snake. I like that.
Japanese? Probably 7.7mm ~30 cal. (Pretty useless factoid)
dakine01 @ 65
Was that the movie that showed the Imperial army sent a message to the Americans telling them to be ready,
but the message did not get through ?
“The reason Hollywood conservatives like to bitch about being persecuted is because victimology is part of the whole right-wing shtick…”
I’ve always been amused by how quickly hairy-chested, alpha male conservatives play the bitch when accountability rears its’ ugly head.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/enro…..91,00.html
http://www.sunlightfoundation.com/node/82
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01…..olicy.html
Just to cite three of thousands of cases where manly men punk out.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 54
Well he did star in one of the absolute worst movies of all time. The Conqueror where he played Ghenghis Khan. Also known as the “Cancer” movie as upwards of fifty per cent of the cast and crew died of cancer. It was filmed in the Utah desert which was downwind of the Nevada nuclear test sites. Also starred Agnes Moorhead (Bewitched, Susan Hayward, William Conrad (Cannon and was directed by William Powell.
Do anyone beside me watch the “Showtime” production of “Brotherhood”?
Petrocelli @ 71
good one Petro
he has way too low a profile imo
he .is. a deadly snake.
Petro, God Save The Queen, and congrats for her 60th wedding anniversary, today! Happy B-Day, Newton, too!
China is getting a little skeeved out about the plummeting dollar.
Can Bush and his lackeys keep the flaming turd rolling until 1/2009?
-GSD
Elliott @ 78
… taking a bow … sometimes I even surprise myself … *g*
Back to Jane’s topic.
It’s important to point out the bullsh*t in media. Very.
And I applaud Jane for doing this.
But, I think the curious and savy here should at least suspect that the media: print, radio, tv and movies (corporations)is mainly — and I’m being generous here — out for profits.
Oh, yeah, and the government is disingenuous and is playing us for fools.
But, Jane, Christy, Phoenix Woman, SC, TSF, TRex et al take up the challenge everyday to give us a different perspective.
Thank you all.
And, Jane, when the LA Times calls me to tell me about their greatest, new deal on subscriptions, I just hang up. For years….
mui @ 64
With all the parts of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights he’s “disappeared”, he should be call Subtractington.
dakine01 @ 76
Susan Hayward’s a fave of mine, she looks like my sister Susie
dakine01 @ 76
I’m thinking more along the lines of “The Quiet Man” and “Red River”. Among others. Most actors, perhaps, have done some not so good films. Am I wrong on this?
Petrocelli @ 74
Not sure but it did cover both sides of the lead up to the war with Japanese actors and director for their piece as well as US actors and director for the US pieces.
CTuttle @ 79
It doesn’t seem like that long ago they celebrated their 25th … how proud do you think they felt to have William deliver a speech today ?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 77
I watched that crazy Dexter chainsaw his mother’s killer. Then I turned off the tube cause I was too scared. What happened in Brotherhood?
Any more repub snakes in the glamour grass I should know about? I like to get my disillusionments over with all at once…..
Eeek…..just remembered Elizabeth Taylor was once married to John Warner!
One reviewer of Bridge over the river Kwai at Imdb
Conservatives have been running the ‘libertine Hollywood’ shakedown racket since the Hays Office put on its seven-league decency boots to give the Jazz Age a curb job.
Gulling the rubes never goes out of style, does it?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 85
No and I agree that Wayne has a number of quite good credits to his name. And I love The Quiet Man although I do tend to cringe at the sexism and misogyny that runs through it.
Elliott @ 84
Gawd… Hayward was a talent! I can watch her art all day.
dakine01 @ 86
Yes, it showed the Japanese Admiral realizing that the Americans did not get the message and stopping the second wave of Zeroes from attacking.
Petrocelli @ 87
Heh, was Camille in attendance, tho? ;-)
darkblack @ 91
Like Mel Gibson…(speaking of libertines)
Yes, whenever I hear about the evil liberals in Hollywood who discriminate against the poor conservatives my heart begins to weep for Arnold Schwarzenegger, Fred Grandy, Bruce Willis, Clint Eastwood, Sonny Bono(RIP), Dennis Miller, Brittany Spears, Bo Derek and all of the other discriminated people who have been run out of town….or not.
Fucking pathetic whiners.
-GSD
CTuttle @ 95
Oh come on CT … surely you remember the rules … no Pets allowed … *g*
Is that the one where he is a retired boxer and goes home to Ireland and ends up marrying that feisty red head?
( Damn, I can never remember her name)
OT..This is good..remember the Darcy Burner fund drive? Reichert said he raised 500k with Bush..the number keeps going down..now 135k..but..
On August 27, 2007, President Bush held a $1,000 a head fundraiser in Bellevue on behalf of Congressman Reichert, the proceeds of which were supposed to be placed into a special joint account that would then be divided between the Reichert campaign and the Washington State Republican Party. Instead, much of the money appears to have been deposited directly in Congressman Reichert’s campaign account, a serious violation of FEC rules. The Reichert campaign has also failed to refund at least one contribution in excess of the $4,600 campaign contribution limit for individual donors.
kos
Maureen something.
Bustednuckles @ 99
The beautiful and talented Maureen O’Hara. Yes it is.
Has anyone ever seen, The House on 92nd Street (1945)movie about the FBI foiling a Nazi plot to steal atom bomb plans, Process 97…
It was on the teevee the other night.
I love that movie.
GSD @ 97
The funniest for me was when Bruce Willis called up Shrub and volunteered for duty in Iraq … *g*
Petrocelli @ 98
707! I still remember seeing Charles and Di on PEI shortly after they were married…
marymccurnin @ 88
Brotherhood is a political thing, with some violence to be sure. I was skeptical, but after a few episodes, I’m hooked.
I watch Dexter too. But this guy “on a mission” (to take out some very bad guys) has me hooked also. I am in luv with Dexter’s cop sister, I might add. ;0)
Bob Hope was so persecuted they put his name on an airport (most people still call it Burbank Airport).
But then most of us won’t use the politician’s name that’s on the 118 freeway, either.
(I saw part of the Mayflower show Sunday. It was nice to see Indians not being played by white guys with makeup – and you could tell the difference.)
Good grief, Charlie Rahm Brown,
With friends like Rahm, who needs enemas?
Mui, when you talk of exploitative films, does the Jerry Lewis clown/holocaust movie come to mind?
Jerry Lewis, life is pitiful.
-GSD
Petrocelli @ 105
Yeah, and Tom Selleck was going to run air cover for him.
;>)
I’m sure leaving out the fact that people like Adam Sandler and Kelsey Grammar have given money to Giuliani, or that he has been endorsed by Robert DuVall, was sheer oversight on the part of the LA Times and not an attempt to paint Democrats as monied, Hollywood liberal elites.
‘Fraser’ just dropped off my list of tv rerun shows to enjoy. Talk about ‘tainted.’ What a drag.
Bustednuckles @ 99
Maureen O’Hara
Why is Rahm giving advice on GOoPer candidates?
Eureka Springs @ 109
707 !!!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 20
He may not have been a liberal, but I’ve got my doubts He was the Republican Robertson and Bush claim He was, either. Kinda hard to imagine a Republican saying this and meaning it:
16″Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”
17″Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.”
18″Which ones?” the man inquired.Jesus replied, ” ‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony,
19 honor your father and mother,and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.”
20″All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”
21Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
Matthew 19:16-24
I love to counter ‘pug points with Scripture just to watch cognitive dissonance blossom.
P J Evans @ 114
Why is Rahm?
The funniest for me was when Bruce Willis called up Shrub and volunteered for duty in Iraq … *g*
if the evildoers have taken over any highrise bldgs. and you need me to shimmy through the ventilation system with a revolver here I am.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 112
Since it runs on FOX or Disney owned channels, you triple your protest value.
Eureka Springs @ 109
‘When Rahm Emanuel does a pushup, he’s not lifting himself up…He’s holding the Democrats down.’
;>)
Hey Dio…
re: , it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
Would share the background on the camel/needle thing for those who haven’t heard it.
I just love history and etymology.
More Republican family values:
Eleven residents of Victoria House in Port Townsend, Washington State, (some in their 90s) are being evicted from the assisted living facility with 90 days notice. Why? Because the Victoria House management company, has decided to stop accepting Medicaid, and there is no law in Washington that makes them have to stick with their agreements with tenants.
C&L
I wonder if the Carlyle Group is involved. They are buying a lot of nursing homes..cutting staff to the bare minimum..sucking out the profits and then dumping what is left.
isn’t Robert Duvall slated to portray Guiliani in the made-for-tv-film ‘How I Brought the 3rd Plane Down with My Bare Hands’…………
Elliott @ 117
Why indeed.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 118
Like Elvis (who I adore) getting a special G-Man’s badge from Nixon. What can you say?
How do good actors do what they do?
GSD @ 110
That looks too obvious. Like springtime with Hitler. It’s so tasteless, it leaves you laughing and crying.
I feel guilty sorta liking Evita tunes, because the Perons . . .
Oklahoma kiddo @ 125
And wasn’t Elvis’ looking to be a “Special DEA” agent? Or whatever it was called at the time.
Hollywood – Liberal? – Ha! Just turn on your TV and watch any ‘entertianment’ program. Just watch those ‘fashion’ shows, and see who is in the audience. Just hear about those ‘Spice Girls’, as I did on a show last night – they talked of the time that ‘Ginger Spice’ went her own way, apparently three year old girls (children) cried over that move.
Now, that is training!
There is nothing whatsoever “Liberal” about Hollywood. It’s a machine that grinds every possible scrap of energy and hope from whomever strays its’ way. Some get lucky – if that’s the right term. Those are the ones that climb the ladder and move up to do unto others what was done to them – in the process becoming wealthier. Their affiliations are not political, merely monetary. And it shows.
And no, their mansions will never match Versailles. I would hope that they could not.
mui @ 69
How the hell could the Hollywood types know about real wars? Most of them were never there, the ones who were were REMFs (Rear Eschelon Mother Fuckers) and besides, no one wants to make a film about blowing away women, kids, and anything else that moves (including some of your own side) which is what war is these days. I speak from having been on the ground in Vietnam. I can’t, in my wildest smoke dreams see Hollywood making a film about some of the things our guys who got medals did. The public would never stand for it. Even the films that are supposed to be realistic are nowhere close. They’re special effects, if you like that sort of thing. War is not about courage. It is about cunning, or at least if you survive it is. It is about 18 year old guys blowing away 15 year-old girls (supposedly the enemy) just to get a charge out of it. It’s about kids with enough PTSD and some psychosis walking into a village and shooting everyone, and getting away with it. There is no justice for anyone in a war. Just wait until some of the kids from Iraq start telling their stories.
You just can’t make this shit up:
DECATUR, Ga. (AP) — The 80-year-old leader of a suburban Atlanta megachurch is at the center of a sex scandal of biblical dimensions: He slept with his brother’s wife and fathered a child by her.
Members of Archbishop Earl Paulk’s family stood at the pulpit of the Cathedral of the Holy Spirit at Chapel Hill Harvester Church a few Sundays ago and revealed the secret exposed by a recent court-ordered paternity test.
(snip)
AP
I wonder if he voted for “W” in ‘04?
OKK
They are Actors. Silly.
Not Teachers. (Ha. & :)
dakine01 @ 128
That’s because Elvis was against ‘certain drugs’. ;0)
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 123
Oh yeah, and have Robert Duvall go for the Marlon Brando look with suspenders and t-shirt, because Ghouliani is such an earthy kinda guy.
demi @ 121
Wow, Demi, you made me reach back aways. I’d forgotten about the etymology until you brought it up!
One version has it the needle is a narrow gate a loaded camel cannot pass thru. Only after he is unburdened can he pass. That makes sense in context of Jesus’s reply.
Another version has it the Aramaic was mistranslated and that camel actually means cable or rope, so that is would be easier to thread a rope thru the eye of a needle.
Thanks, Demi, for jogging an aging memory.
adam sandler starring as george wallace Governer With a Conscience.
Adam Sandler portrays the plucky bantamweight champion who rises to the Alabama statehouse with his convictions intact.
“You’ll have to pry this burning cross out of my cold, dead hands” is one of the more moving lines in the film which Sandler delivers with a dramatic power we had no suspected he was capable of.
(fake review)
cynic @ 130
Who’s asking them to make real movies. Primo Levi certainly didn’t. Even Elie Wiesel had a shit fit over Sophie’s Choice.
123 @ 129
Oh, man.
Were you laid-off too?
Hey, I had Time-Warner stock at $100/share. At one time.
Oh, brother.
It is like a cult that sucks you in.
And, then.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 77
I watched it the 1st season. Is there a second? Have you seen “The Tudors”? The first episode reminds you of Bush. Henry VIII talks to his advisors for 5 minutes, tells them he wants to go to war, they agree, he says he’s glad that’s settled and that now he can go play.
GSD @ 110
OMG. A movie directed by Jerry Lewis?
Runs screaming from the room.
Correction @137. Who’s asking them to make movies about war? I certainly thought it was in incredibly bad taste to make a movie about the flight that went down in Pennsylvania. Others disagree. But I feel strongly about it.
Steve-AR @ 131
Read Sara’s latest post over at Orcinus for more.
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/
Oklahoma kiddo @ 133
Elvis was none too happy when John Lennon asked him, ‘Why aren’t you making music like you did for Sun Records?’
allan_in_upstate @ 140
isn’t that premiering at the G. Pompideau Theatre just after Jerry recieves the ‘Award of Valour?’
solai @ 139
That’s a pretty good comparision.
demi @ 138
Demi,
never been near the place, just my observation.
And you ?
diogenes,
Well, you are welcome. I’d heard the first one, but not the second.
Glad to jog your memory. If any negatives come with that, just put it on my tab.
PS. I almost hesitately to bring up the camel thing, what with the camel-toe joke going on here.
I also love imaging jokes.
mui @ 137
Or you know what. Let them. Screw Hollywood and it’s bad f-ing Hitler in Springtime, or a tender young Jewish Concentration camp prisoner (not emaciated, with traces of lipstick) finds love in Aushcwitz with a Nazi creep bad f-ing taste.
coca cola, macdonalds, hollywood, war.
123 @ 129
Quite right. Watch ‘Criminal Minds’ on CBS anytime for right wing indoctrination. In one episode, the FBI arrested a reporter under the Patriot Act for not giving up his source.
In another, they did a dynamic entry into a residence without a warrant because “time was of the essence.”
Scary stuff.
cynic @ 130
cynic,
Please don’t forget that Oliver Stone used his experiences as a ground pounder in Vietnam as the basis for his Vietnam War Trilogy: Platoon, Born On The Fourth of July, and Heaven And Earth. And the movie going public did make those movies hits.
All this talk about movies has put Lahoma into the mood for movies tonight. She wants me to select a selection from our flick library. I hate to make decisions like this.
New post upstairs
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
Oh you know what. Go for the obvious. The ones that promise and give gratuitous sex, violence the whole nine yards. Because the “serious” films are in my experience often seriously offensive schlock.
dakine01 @ 151
And they didn’t come close to the reality! Where is his movie on Mi Lai?
Jane upstairs!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
Might I recommend ‘The Last Castle’ with Redford?
Randi Rhodes had an interesting discussion today that we should look into.
It seems that the so called “Independent Voters” at the Nevada debate were Dem operatives apparently skewed toward Clinton.
The discussion continued that apparently, Fox has chosen Rudy and CNN has chosen Hillary.
Anywho, to make a long story short, she recommended that all future Dem debates should bypass corporate debates and instead hold them on PBS sponsored, by the League of Women Voters.
She’s calling on all campaigns to consider it.
diogenes @ 157
… or The Horse Whisperer … my wife’s favorite …
123,
Very astute observations.
I’m in Los Angeles. Wanted to be an actress. Got a job in administrative support at the studios thinking…ha ha ha… and then, what with life’s other stuff, stayed there for 25 years.
I was in with the in crowd and had some fun. Paid okay. But….
A new day, a new perspective.
mui @ 154
here’s a couple of beautys:
Cinema Paradiso!!
Il Postino!!
mui @ 90
if you can find them
have a look at Jack Chalkers’ drawings of the Burma Railway.
Weary Dunlops’ biography gives an accurate description as well.
cynic @ 155
It seems to be in process at the moment
OKK, if you’re still here…
Beethoven’s -Cop- ist …something like that.
Oh my God. Get it. If not for tonight, another time. You both will love it. I suspect.
Hint: Ed Harris plays Ludwig. Nuff said.
dakine01 @ 163
JFK in my humble opinion was a staggering piece of political drama. And if anything understated the case.
demi @ 164
ed harris or gary oldman?
in any event you’re right. it’s a great little film
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 166
Gary Oldman Immortal Beloved?
eXcellent soundtrack
Gary Oldman Immortal Beloved?
eXcellent soundtrack
Elliott
yeah you’re right Elliott. that’s the one I was thinking of——-
cynic @ 155
I have problems with some of the posey moments in Oliver Stones movies, among other things.
And where is his Mi Lai.
eCAHNomics @ 25
Just another example of republican peter principleness.
If you can’t get rid of them politically, promote them and have the tax payers continue to pick up the bill for their incompetence.
Given the regal swearing in ceremony for her AG slot, shall we now expect a 21 gun salute for her new position?
mui @ 169
See the link at my #163. It is in process.
No. Not Immortal Beloved with Gary. BUt, that was great too.
This one is with Ed Harris. More recent flick.
Copying Beethoven.
Different one.
demi @ 172
I could go for him too lol!
Demi – 138
Diogenes -150
Demi – 160
thanks for the replys.
Elli -
It’s with a young woman who “copies” – writes out his music for him.
Their relationship is “Fiery”. Get it.
Rarrrrrhhh.
123 @ 174
Da nada.
Viya con Dios….
mui @ 19
Haim Saban is basically the employer of Michael O’Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack.
nslate please?demi @ 176
Go with God.
Totally messed that up.
Demi at 176, would you translate that please.
123.
I don’t speak Spanish either. But, I have picked up a few phrases.
Raised and living in LA, the couselors told me to take French, in high school.
Not the greatest of counseling.
And, Da Nada.
Means It’s nothing.
Or, in English, No problem. Fagetaboutit.
:)
demi @ 179
Thankyou. I will make a point of remembering,
123,
I think I messed up.
I think it’s Vaya Con Dios.
But, still, the thought is there.
Demi -
what a wonderful momentary friend. Thankyou.
Best wishes from this end.
momentary friend.
I like that.
Like, Random Acts of Kindness?
Yep. John Wayne; Lloyd Bridges; Ronald Reagan, etc…
coming up through the drains to assault our womenfolk and poison our precious bodily fluids, as Sterling Hayden so accurately described it in his worshipful portrayal of that great american patriot, Gen. Curtis LeMay.
By God, there was an american who knew how to deal with the reds. :o)
P J Evans @ 114
With advice like his the Repubs are sure to lose!
Petrocelli @ 159
I like a couple of his “CIA” flicks: Three Days of the Condor with Faye Dunaway & Cliff Robertson and Spy Game with Brad Pitt.
I’m still trying to puzzle out the whole ‘Hollywood Liberal’ ‘Soros is eeeevil’ thing.
First, I’ve yet to get my check from that cheapskate Soros.
Second, why is it better to accept untold millions in contributions from Big Oil and War Profiteers and Big Pharmacom and the Insurance lobbies than it is to accept a few millions from some Hollywood hasbeens.
I guess conservatives need something to bitch about to feel better about their own pathetic self loathing lives.
Equally likely is that they need to point at someone else so that they distract from the back door dealings on their own team. I figure that’s why they made such a big deal out of William Jefferson’s $90k freezer but nobody’s mentioned the $300 million dollar Gravina Island Bridge that Ted Stevens wanted.
Or perhaps we’re just back to the 30th Amendment ‘It’s ok if a Republican does it’.