John Edwards speaks to James Lowe, in Wise, Virginia in July of 2007.
This today in the NYTimes Magazine needs discussion:
It was 3 a.m. at the Wise County Fairgrounds in Virginia — Friday, July 20, 2007 — the start of a rainy Appalachian morning. Outside the gates, people lay in their trucks or in tents pitched along the grassy parking lot, waiting for their chance to have their medical needs treated at no charge — part of an annual three-day “expedition” led by a volunteer medical relief corps called Remote Area Medical.
The group, most often referred to as RAM, has sent health expeditions to countries like Guyana, India, Tanzania and Haiti, but increasingly its work is in the United States, where 47 million people — more than 15 percent of the population — live without health insurance….
And so each summer, shortly after the Virginia-Kentucky District Fair and Horse Show wraps up at the fairgrounds, members of Virginia Lions Clubs start bleaching the premises, readying them for RAM’s volunteers, who, working in animal stalls and beneath makeshift tents, provide everything from teeth cleaning and free eyeglasses to radiology and minor surgery….more than 800 people already were waiting in line. Over the next three days, some 2,500 patients would receive care, but at least several hundred, Brock estimates, would be turned away….
We are one of the richest countries in the world, and these people camp out with their children in an abandoned fairground, scrambling to be one of the few at a barely sterilized horse stall in a sea of people who are equally desperate — and grateful – to receive medical care.
In America.
Back in July, 2007, the Edwards campaign visited rural Appalachian Virginia. I remembered seeing this video from the campaign, because the man in it — James Lowe — had such a poignant, difficult story to tell. That he could tell it at all was due to the gift of medical care from those same doctors, who stepped in to help him after James had spent a lifetime – close to 50 years – in silence. From Time Magazine:
Lowe is 51 years old, a disabled coal miner from the hollows of Eastern Kentucky. He has never been one to get up in front of a crowd. Until last year, he wouldn’t have been able to speak to the crowd even if he wanted to. He was born with a severe cleft palate; when he tried to talk he could not make himself understood, so after a while he stopped trying. He was one of 10 children, born to parents too poor to pay for the treatment he needed, and of course there was no insurance. Embarrassed by his condition, Lowe dropped out of school in fifth grade without learning to read or write, and eventually followed his father into the mines — and still couldn’t afford treatment. Twenty-three years ago he was partially paralyzed in a mining accident and could no longer perform manual labor. That didn’t leave him many options.
Lowe lived a mute and by his own account diminished life for five decades in all before he finally got a break last year. He made it happen by standing in line for 13 hours at the Wise Country Fairgrounds in the mountains of southwestern Virginia, where a nonprofit volunteer group called the Rural Area Medical Health Expedition once a year provides free medical and dental treatment to all comers. For thousands of men and women like Lowe who crowd the health fair every year, it represents the only medical care they ever receive. The dentists couldn’t help Lowe on the spot but got him in to see someone who could, and now he has a dental prosthesis that allows him to speak pretty well….
I live in West Virginia, and have relatives and have known folks who have had to deal with no insurance and chronic conditions my whole life. And not just years ago, either, I mean people today. But it was Lowe’s stoic and humble pride in his newly found voice that spoke to the resiliant strength of the human spirit, and the amazing gift that you can give to others with a single act of kindness. And his story stuck with me.
I don’t know what the answer is to the intertwined mess that is our health care system, our mental health care safety net (which is nearly nonexistent), our education and workforce issues, chronic generational poverty, the desperate need for primary care doctors in rural America, and every other issue touched by this mess. But I know this: it is morally wrong to simply say “well, he should have been born to richer parents.” Woulda, coulda, shoulda doesn’t really cut it for a young boy who is mute because a simple medical assist is well beyond his ability to magically produce. And anyone who cannot see how difficult and scarring that would be for a child…for a lifetime…has no heart.
Mr. ReddHedd and I live by our own little commitment: we help our families as much as we can whenever they need it, we help the folks we know who need a hand, and we do what we can in our community and further out whenever we can do so. We were talking about this last night, and how much of an impact it could have in the world if everyone were doing that all at once. But they aren’t. How does that change? When? Why hasn’t it changed already?
No child in America should be a throwaway child. Not one.
And no child should ever have to endure what James Lowe likely had to endure growing up in silence. I keep thinking, “there but for the grace of God, this could have been me.” I know some of the folks reading out there have similarly difficult stories, and I wish I had better answers. I read about those parents campaing out in the field, waiting for medical care in a horse stall for their kids and I think, “if I were in the same situation, I’d do that for The Peanut’s benefit in a heartbeat.” Thankfully, we aren’t in that situation. But I could not let this subject come up again without saying that it is past time we talked seriously about all of this — because the way things are at the moment is not working. Not even close.
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Amen. It needs to change!
Christy!
ooh! zedalicious! Told ‘em downstairs. Good article, Christy!
We need to hope that the real America can come back. John Edwards gives me that hope. He spoke well on FTN. Could it be that a President would represent the people…for real?
My grandson age 2 was born with a cleft lip and palate.He has had the countries best care and now will be no different than any one else. Hes beautiful and speaks well. Such a difference.
No one likes the insurance companies (except the insurance companies and their investors, and the Joe Leibermans of the world) so can be begin to frame the health care debate in terms of “Insurance reform”?
Edwards nails it when he identifies the two Ameicas… One hundred thousands haves and 300 million have nots.
Health care has nothing to do with insurance.
Insurance is only a middle man sucking resources and denying care for the sake of profits to the middle man.
It’s like setting up a toll booth so only those who pay can drive on the road.
Kill insurance.
Redd,
Your compassion knows no bounds. Thank you.
Health care is a right not a privilege.
(((PEANUT))))
exactly, Redd…
Christy has a such a big heart. If only the world had more Christy’s. And she’s smart as a whip too. Wouldn’t that be something!
It’s a disgrace there are so many people who receive little or no health care in such an affluent nation. We can do better.
In terms of our health care systems woes not being met, one of the problems is that the people with their hands on the levers of power are personally shielded from the problem.
Although I am generally not much of an Edwards supporter, his idea that our elected federal officials lose their Cadillac heath insurance benefits might be worth exploring.
I recently attended a fund raising dinner. I looked across the room and realized that no one there had any problems accessing our health care system.
For the pols and their benefactors, this horrendous problem is not real. It is only a ‘concern.’
Only slightly OT;
From Giuliani’s economic advisor, Michael Boskin of Stanford,
by way of a Jonah Goldberg piece that I refuse to dignify with a link:
I’m sure that Stanford’s health plan doesn’t involve meeting your doctor in a horse stall.
allan_in_upstate @ 13
In fact I’m looking into Stanford’s health plan tomorrow. I’ll let you know.
It just shows what a total lie the Emergency Room comment by so many Republicans is. I was in the Emergency room for only a few hours with my Mom, but one man could not get care, he had fluid on the knee and the ER doc does not do that, had to refer him to a specialist.
Republicans must know it is a lie, but they repeat it over and over.
Even those of us fortunate enough to have “health insurance” struggle. I had surgery on my right hand in December of 2005, and I’m making monthly payments on a portion of the bill that the insurance company denied for no reason that I can fathom. I’m appealing the denial, but meantime, if I don’t make payments, my credit gets ruined.
Also, there’s this diary on kos: U.S. Doctors struggle to get paid as insurers “game the system”.
Christy,
Great post Christy. Thanks!
One favor? Can you possibly make a small edit to the post? Instead of “these people wait with their children” could it just read “and people wait” or “families wait.”
“These”, “them” and “those” are difficult words cross-culturally when dialogue about poverty is “in the room.” I know that was not the intent of the post and in fact quite the opposite.
Forgive me for suggesting, I know you work so hard to keep readers informed and addressing important issues…
I hear Edwards’s rhetoric but in practice his voting record in the Senate wasn’t stellar.
I’m sticking with Kucinich. He’s the only authentic Democrat left in the running.
It was such a lightning bolt moment when I read the NYTimes Mag piece — because I remembered the James Lowe story from last summer, and thought it might be the same group of docs…and it was.
This is such a complex set of issues — fixing one aspect doesn’t come close to fixing the rest of the mess. But this was such a compelling way to show the depth of the problem, I needed to talk about it this morning. I’m just sorry I’m so in and out today with The Peanut not feeling well. But I know you guys have a lot to say on this, and I’ll catch up on reading the comments as I can this morning.
Lindy @ 15
That’s the big honking problem that’s rearing up its head. Even people who might think that since they have insurance they’re okay, they’re getting hammered with increased arbitrary denials, higher co payments, etc. That’s hitting so many people, that we’re finally sitting up and taking notice.
To be brutally honest, as long as the “problem” was “only” as Christy described — an ignorable group of people completely denied decent care — it would probably limp on. But right now even if you’re a Bush lovin’ rethuglican, you’re going to notice WHEN (not if) your insurance company increasingly denies you reimbursement for necessary care.
When it hits that many homes, then it starts to hit the fan. I wish it were different, but there it is. I do think we’re reaching a critical point. *No one* I talk to thinks that the health “care” system is in good shape. (Now, what the solutions are, is another story, of course :-P )
I hope we have a chance to improve things and rework the system before this country goes so bankrupt that we can do nothing at all…
SanderO @ 7
Morning all! Nope- it’slike setting up a toll booth on the ONLY road so that only those who can pay get to drive.
HI
We think we’re the richest country in the world but this is how we treat the citizens.
Sad
jo6pac
Lindy @ 16
Write you Congressman, or newspaper maybe a letter from them would change the insurance company’s mind. I remember, one hospital went to bat for a patient, contening that the Cochlear Ear Implant was covered under the insurance policy, and after Eighteen months the insurance company agreed! That is one dedicated hospital employee! By the way the patient already paid for and got the implant, but the hospital employee kept at it, because it was the right thing to do.
A small OT (though it’s all related): OldCoastie’s diary on the California election initiative fraud is up and running. I recommend it because this is another republican ploy to game the system and steal votes and I think it needs to stay front and center.
Lindy @ 15
Hopefully by screwing the patients and the providers, the insurance companies are cutting their own throats. The insurance industry “games” the doctors, just like the patient. Denials, more paper work, delaying payment as long as possible.
Lindy @ 24
thanks – its starting to slip right down the page pretty quick!
OldCoastie @ 26
Recommended. It’s at 22 recs, head on over folks.
And if you’re not registered at kos, please do so you can support pups like OldCoastie.
OldCoastie @ 25
A shame they won’t let me vote to recommend it more than once *grin*.
Lindy @ 16
Or visit your local Congressman’s office, it would only probably take 10 minutes, of course call in advance, to be sure you can talk to someone, leave a copy of the bill and rejection letter, maybe a letter from them would be enough to change their minds.
egregious @ 26
egregious, I don’t see your recommend. (Nevah mind :))
peanutbutter @ 20
I think it will change when we see enough people with good health insurance trying to file for bankruptcy… it is no longer very difficult to exceed your lifetime benefits with one major illness.
Michale Boskin is fullashit.
I have been visiting Italy regularly for 30 years as my sister lives there and they have quite a decent and not declining quality of life. Look at their railroads, carless CBDs, their protection of the food supply, their access to health care. My brother in law who died a year ago had very expensive medical procedures which cost him nothing. I think a life of smoking did him in.
Lindy @ 30
Someone unspeakably took my nom de plume, which Immanentize said was ‘truly egregious’ and so I use this phrase at kos. The impostor has never made a diary or even commented as far as I can tell. Dog in the manger.
What I don’t understand is, as a former steelworker, I’m sort of used to people who have jobs in basic, huge industries like steel having health care fringe benefits. I don’t understand how the coal industry has gotten by all these years not providing health care as part of an employment package for families of their workers. It particularly makes no sense when you consider how dangerous that job is.
They are represented by a union, are they not? What does the union do? I ask, because if employers don’t supply health care benefits, then many unions do. Ask the teamsters about the benefits they supply. I get my share of my ex-husband’s retirement benefits from Prudential, who manages the Teamster’s retirement benefit fund. So, while I could understand someone who does not have a background in a basic industry like coal mining not having insurance, I am having a hard time wrapping my head around a man with coal mining in his background going this long without the operation to provide speech. It’s not that I don’t believe anything about the story, it’s just that it seems too appalling to grasp!
I know I sound like a broken record, but with what’s on the line, that’s ok.
Health care is a symptom of the underlying problem. The few (generally in the shape of corporations) have too much say-so, and they are endlessly greedy. Their greed is now manifest in the most blatant power grab in the history of the republic.
The many have too little say-so.
Only one candidate wants to break the status quo.
Everything else is insignificant.
Lindy @ 28
How does one recommend a d-kos diary? *he asks in a small voice, blushing*
Steve-AR @ 36
Steve-AR, you gotta be registered.
Steve-AR @ 36
Register, log in, look on the right hand column down a little and there is a button “Recommend”
Steve-AR @ 35
Steve, if you log in at daily kos, the “recommend this diary” shows up on the right sidebar. If you’re not registered, it is painless to do so and allows you to recommend diaries. Once you register, refresh the diary and you should see the button.
There are now people taking their own insurance into their own hands. I have been reading about groups of people paying into public accounts instead of insurance policies and then they submit their bills to the accountant who oversees the books for the account. Bills are paid 100%. It’s a bit of an ebb and flow.
The patients also find they are getting better care because their bills are paid in cash. I think it would be interesting to see more groups like this emerge. Doc’s could charge a lower rate for those paying in cash because of lower administrative overhead due to the bill not needing to be submitted to insurance… What would the insurance companies do if many started to put their $$$ into public medical trusts..??? Doc’s would be thrilled!
egregious @ 38
OK..thanks
Ann in AZ — It depends on who owns the mine, and whether it is union or not, and whether it is a large company or a tiny operation…and about a bazillion other facts. I don’t know the type of mine that Lowe worked in but in my experience, a smaller non-union mine that is privately owned doesn’t often have insurance for workers…because it is really, realy expensive to get it for a small business operation and for the workers to pay their out-of-pocket share….and, about a bazillion other issues.
When I was in private practice, we were a very small business and looked into any number of insurance possibilities for the folks who worked for us — and could not find anything that we and they could afford, even through the local chamber of commerce plan and the state bar plan…and every other plan we investigated. And it’s worse now than it was back then. (We ended up doing a sort of quasi-health savings plan and then chipping in on med bills for one of our secretaries who had a particularly difficult issue for a while.)
So, basically, it depends on the type of mine that he worked in and such, and that’s just for starters. Like I said above, there are so many intertwined issues.
I think my family is one major illness or medical event away from bankruptcy. (We are all healthy at present) We are basic middle classers with average savings and holdings. We have ‘above average’ health insurance coverage from spouse’s employer and yet . . .
My friends think I am crazy for thinking this
Hubby and I have insurance. Whenever we see a letter from them the standing reaction is “Here’s another explanation of why they won’t pay our med bill”.
And as for the ER lie: My niece dislocated her knee in an evening basketball game. Went to the ER and was told ins wouldn’t cover it because she wasn’t referred by her primary physician.
Wow — THIS is disturbing:
The suit, filed in 2003 in federal court in Dallas, and unsealed this year, argues that improper sales practices, together with erroneous accounting, are invisibly draining millions of dollars out of vital public programs like Medicare through overcharges or unauthorized uses. While whistle-blower cases typically involve, at most, a handful of companies, Ms. Fitzgerald’s alleges systemic fraud across a whole network of companies and more than 7,000 health care institutions.
Well, that could boost costs, now couldn’t it?
Sandman @ 23
That’s interesting, I don’t typically hear about fusses being made over CI payments at all. In fact, what I have scratched my head over constantly is why CI is paid for without question, but HA are almost never, ever covered…! I figure someone somewhere is somehow making money hand over fist by paying for CI, but I don’t know how.
solai at 43 — I have found that sending a written objection to the insurance company when they balk on something like that has had very good results. They are in the business of not paying claims if they can get away with it — because for every claim not paid, they make money. If you push back in writing, they are required to audit the claim internally — and it leaves a paper trail. And if they refuse to pay a claim without just cause under the policy, it leaves them open to a bad faith claim…with a paper trail.
Always object to problems with your insurance company in writing. By all means, make phone calls — but follow-up with a written memorandum detailing the discussion. They cannot leave a written objection unanswered in a file…and you are more likely to get a real review and change of policy that way. Just FYI…
OldCoastie @ 31
I think you’re very right. Talk about another bad bill (the bankruptcy one). You should have heard me ranting on that one back then (but I wasn’t here then ;-) )
Ahgoo @ 43
You are right and your friends are delusional..I have the same discussion…”We don’t want socialized medicine, Hillary will give us socialized medicine(hooray)..Me..”You are one major illness from bankruptcy” them ” We have health insurance me “Just wait”
The intense “brain washing” of American Society since the “Great Society” days has been very effective. The Ronnie era linking of social programs with “free stuff for the lazy “N’s” and brown people was also effective. The coming economic crash is going to be a come to Jeebus moment for a lot of people. My fear is that we will head toward an “American Populism” rather than FDR “New Deal” society.
peanutbutter, what is an HA?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 45
Well, that could boost costs, now couldn’t it?
Medical suppliers and the drug companies routinely shower gifts on Doctors and Administrators.
At the clinic I go to the doctors and staff frequently have extravagant lunches catered in by these companies.
The poor and the voiceless don’t have a chance.
How come as a NASA subcontractor, I could not accept a fruit basket? I want my free lunch!
Cookie Krongard is being fried on C-Span1 right now. Department of State IG.
Sandman @ 53
Shays is a chicken leg
Christy Hardin Smith @ 47
Using terms such as “Bad Faith” and you will be receiving a letter from my attorney can be helpful. Another thing that seems to be helpful is to say something like “gee whiz..I don’t know much about this stuff..if my appeals letter fails..is the! next step to send a complaint to the State Insurance Commission..The response on several occasions has been “NOOOOOOO!!!!”
There are other things do do first.
Shays maybe the only republican congressman in the Northeast and faces a real challenge in 2008.
Sandman @ 56
say good night Chris
I like Lynch questionings
(sorry to be OT)
Lindy @ 28
Where the heck do you recommend? Or is that part of the 24 hour block when you register? (I just registered — as Peanut Butter, shocked that no one else has taken that at Kos…)
I worked at Duke Hospital for three years, and the money that’s made off of sickness and ageing in this country, is an obscenity.
The grubbiest porn-flick ever made is an act of grace, compaired with what is happening to poor and working-class people who need medical care in America.
BTW, I give Hillary points for trying, when she was first lady, to change it. That she (and Bill) failed, is not her fault. It was a noble effort.
The anti-Clinton lynch-mob was in full cry, and the Health Care “industry (the fact that that phrase describes the situation tells us just how fucked up things are), with plenty of help from the GOP, made sure that the idea of any real change; that is, any meaningful move away from “privatizing” so much human suffering, died a-borning.
Now, it’s a different story.
This election, with the 350-pound-Iraq-turd hanging around their necks, the conservatives won’t be nearly agile enough dodge the anger about health care and other issues.
BUT, Iraq is the catalyst for change. BIG change. It has to be. And we have to have a nominee that can use it.
And Clinton has so many, many, minuses.
It’s pretty amazing when you think about it; she has them for the conservatives, and she sure has them for us.
Somewhere in that equation, the idea that she’s politically “savvy”, has to take it in the shorts. :o)
Sandman @ 56
He’s one of the few R congresscritters left in the NE.
KLynn @ 40
While this isn’t a practical way for everyone in this country to use, I do adore the notion of utterly cutting out the insurance companies.
As long as these things are put together as strictly non profit, this is interesting…
peanutbutter @ 58
I think when I signed up a thousand years ago, there was a 24 hour wait period before you could recommend, but I don’t know what the current policy is.
I’m thinking I should have named my diary something like “I hate Hillary” and that might have gotten it popped up on the rec list… instead, only borin’ ol’ fraud… ordinary crooks and liars…
;-)
Morning pups.
Great post Christy.
To my mind, the biggest shame in this is the number of Americans who think the status quo is just fine.
eCAHNomics @ 60
He’s THE ONLY Republican Congressman left in New England.
We still have the two NH legacy hacks in the Senate and Sens. Snowe and Collins in Maine.
-GSD
Christy Hardin Smith @ 42
Wow! You know, I can’t say that I didn’t appreciate what I had as a steelworker. Actually, it was appreciation of what they had to offer that drew me there to begin with. Not only did I get a living wage, very important for a single mother with two kids and little or no child support, but I also had fringe benefits that affected my future life and that of my children in so many ways!
Yet I also remember that when another, much smaller “steel company” (it was actually more of a finishing plant, not a company that made steel from raw materials like mine did) without good management went belly up, that the workers lost more than their jobs, they also lost their retirement benefits. The company had used the money, so the retirement fund was also bankrupt. And then, of course, there is the fact that largely due to dumping and some other factors (aluminum is cheaper, etc.) the company I worked for, one of the “big five” steel companies, Bethlehem Steel, is also bankrupt. I’m not sure if their bankruptcy has been discharged or not yet.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 47
I always make that my main Dr. and I have the thing in mind and he writes it that way. This is really important when you deal with your Surgeon. They will help if you have shown your interest, most of them don’t like the industry.
jopac
Home recovering from Surgery
eCAHNomics @ 60
Just to be clear, I meant Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Roade Island, Massachusetts, and Connecticut. One House of Representative is Republican and that is Chris (say goodbye) Shays.
jo6pac — hope your recovery goes well.
solai @ 44
Now that’s utterly ridiculous and should be illegal anytime “Emergency” is in the name of the service provider.
YEA! I made it on to the Rec list!
OT..Just read the Rove News Week piece..he make a strong case for electing Hillary.
(snip)
“And her? She tends to be, well, hard and brittle.
(snip)
It is a small but telling story: she is tough, persistent and forgets nothing.
(snip)
Be strong on Iraq. Democrats have bet on failure. That’s looking to be an increasingly bad wager, given the remarkable progress seen recently in Iraq. If the question is who will get out quicker, the answer is Hillary.
(snip)
She lacks her husband’s political gifts and rejects much of the centrism he championed. The health-care fiasco showed her style and ideology.”
Sort of sounds the person we need..A hard, brave, lefty, with a long memory who will get us out of Iraq. The “evil Hillary” Fascist slayer and bringing ruin and destruction to the GOP. No wonder the wingnuts don’t sleep well.
just added the recommeded tag at the DK Old Coastie diary
Made the rec list
You might be interested in one of our readers. Dr. C. who describes himself as:
He’s said before most recently in this post:
Our President the Black Pot that when push comes to shove he’ll treat people for free.
(emphasis added by me)
He writes on various matters – if you like kids, and he obviously does don’t miss his regular Friday crab blogging.
Christy why not leave a comment on his blog asking him if he’d write about some of the things he has to struggle with as a doctor in a poor rural community?
Poor Turdblossom. Two decades of grooming a world leader and in his first public outing as a ‘journalist’ he can’t mention a single fucking accomplishment.
Yes Karl, some of us are smart enough to see the meaning in what you DON’T say.
-GSD
This kind of stuff gets me every time. I really should do a big post at my other blog about my fight to get mental health help for my teenage son and about my fight to keep coverages for myself. We’re not even poor anymore and I’ve had an absolutely insane time.
My medicine that I get infused every seven weeks now costs me $558 every time, due to new insurance. What kind of insanity is that? It’s the stuff that keeps me able to move and now, I have to start the search for treatment all over again!
it becomes increasingly obvious that edwards is the only guy in the race who is saying the right things doing the right things and has a chance of winning (sorry dennis).
the rest is all just a dust-up.
we should get behind this guy asap, and see him through. he will do well in iowa, which will give him the visibility — i would be stunned if he doesn’t finish in the top two in the caucuses, and think he could well take them.
after that it’s a scramble, because the clinton forces will join forces with repubs to trash him relentlessly.
Left to read Old Coastie’s diary and stayed at DKos awhile. Thanks to all for the advice. As to my niece and the ER. The claim was eventually paid, after a fight. Always need to fight.
Liss @ 75
(((Liss)))
you should! that would be helpful to the next family facing a similar situation, and also good for shining a light on the mess we call mental heath care in the USA
Elliott @ 57
Shays got saved last time because of Slummy Joe. Not this time.
Cookie Krongard graduated Harvard Law.
Alberto Gonzales graduated Harvard Law.
Things are not looking so good for them.
Sandman @ 80
Harvard Law needs a good weed-out ethics course. Required, naturally.
Remember the old days, say 25yrs ago? Hubby had free ins thru work and so did I. My first 2 pregnancies were 100% covered. What one ins. didn’t pay, the other picked up. Never even saw a bill. And, for my 1st child, I stayed in hospital for 4 days because my bloodcount was so low. I’d be willing to let the ins. companies stay in business if they’d just pay the damn bills and not interfere with medical advice.
thank you all for the DKos recommends… I see Ron Shepson (sp?) is gonna do a little tour in my area for petitioners…
Elliott @ 78
Thanks. That was the original plan with that blog. I’ve been fighting three years to help my son with what has turned out to be extreme PTSD and it’s such a convoluted MESS! Actually, I’m going to work on getting a job as a parent advocate at the state-contracted facility that he’s been at and work on finding out how to be a peer counselor, as well.
As for me, I have hypothyroidism, Crohn’s disease, psoriasis, and either Crohn’s or psoriatic arthritis. I was barely managing along on Cadillac-style insurance and the company just changed. All of a sudden, the things that help me survive aren’t covered sufficiently anymore. It’s time to start bitching to the state insurance commission and appearing at the local legislature.
Some copays are now in the $30-$40 range and this will get the attention of a lot of people who never gave a it much thought before.
When I became the primary caretaker for may parents in the 90s it took me 7 months to straighten out the insurance mess. I can only imagine how bad it is now.
With the amount of money I pay out of pocket for my health care, it’s remarkable that I consider myself so fortunate to have the coverage that I do.
We like folks who volunteer to help other folks. And we like those who wish they could, but for whatever reason, are unable to do so.
I’m off. Need to shop for Thanksgiving dinner. See everyone later.
solai @ 88
Good luck, I just came back from the grocery store, it was just mad.
Hello, Christy,
Last night, Selise and i drove in to meet up with Emptywheel and other MA progressives at an Irish pub. 9 of us showed up, some had attended the conference “No News is Bad News” where she was on a political news panel. We were Gmoke, phred and her husband, BlueStateRedHead and her husband, and Nicky, selise and i. We were thrilled that Marcy came so early – she blew off dinner with her fellow panelists saying she would rather be with her peeps. Conversation was so amazing i cannot begin to summarize it here. I’m always so impressed with the pups i meet – we had a great time and exchanged emails – always a reason to come out to a meet and great. PS, pub had good food, too.
Thank you, Christy!!!
I want to keep this in mind for Christmas alternative gift giving.
Bob in HI
As you sit down to your Thanksgiving dinner, maybe think about families who could perhaps use your help for Christmas.
I live in this area I can tell you the RAM event is something people wait for all year – just to get a chance to receive medical care they can’t afford otherwise. As a side note, while it speaks to the larger healthcare problem just having to have this rural service, the dedication of the volunteers and doctors is unmatched. While the “doctor’s office” may be a field, everyone is treated with courtesy and respect. Even though they have hundreds of patients to get through, the care-givers know that this is the only care some will receive until the next year – making what they do even more important to the community.
Until there is a national solution to health care, this is just a very small band-aid on a very big problem.
Do you know there are thousands of kids who will get nothing for Christmas?
so far (crosses fingers) i’m better off without health insurance than when i was covered under my last job. My copays were higher than what i currently pay the few times i’ve needed to see the doctor … my clinic says that insurance claims take up so much time and resources that they pass the savings on to those who don’t make them jump through insurance paper hoops.
Of course, a major problem … well, i just hope that i get run over by a truck or something rather than develop a serious illness. And at my age there seems to be subtle age discrimination in finding a permanent job, not much chance of health coverage while subsisting on graphic arts temping.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 94
Every year we adopt a family’s Santa list through Project Help and spend $150 trying to fill the Santa sack. Last year we recruited 6 other families to participate in the project. Does this exist in other areas?
TexBetsy at 96 — I think Salvation Army does something similar nationwide — called an angel tree, where you pick an individual kid to buy for — because we do it here and I’ve seen it in other areas when we’ve visited relatives. We also fill stockings for several kids every year through a Salvation Army program here. The Peanut and I have fun going shopping for a bunch of kids at once, and then filling the stockings to the brim for the kids. :)
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We, Lahoma and I, like folks like you TexBetsy.
Abuse of little ones can become rather intense around the holiday season. If you suspect anything of this sort going on in your neighborhood, please do something.
SanderO @ 7
Framing the debate in terms of “healthcare reform” or “health insurance reform” prevents us from getting to work on a politically successful compromise.
Conservatives and the “haves” will never accept “socialized medicine” as they call all single-payer plans.
Likewise the millions of currently uninsured will never have their needs served by any insurance-based plan run by people whose motivation is profit derived from providing LESS healthcare to FEWER people.
I think that to make any real progress we have to concede the existence of private, insurance-based systems for the haves and the ideologues, and work for some variation of a single-payer-of-last-resort plan for those who cannot afford insurance, or those who choose to opt out of for-profit insurance plans.
The payer-of-last-resort theme can work with some sort of capacity limitations for budgetary purposes, like Medicare, but the key is that it is focused NOT on profit, but on delivering healthcare to all who need it, without denials for pre-existing conditions, or other financial dodges. Its financial values are operating within budget and minimizing fraud.
This payer-of-last-resort would cover all the cases that insurance is denying, and would likely put the government (we the people) in some sense, in the position of competing with the insurance companies, to the probable long term benefit of both. Both learn to be more efficient and more responsive to their “customers.”
Like nearly all of the major segments of our consolidating capitalist economy, the major insurance companies have learned to mutually profit without really competing. The market needs a viable true competitor.
There’s always
Toys for Tots
remember the good old days. remember the good old days. hmmm jfk rfk mlk yes, i remember…the good old days. there was nothing going on behind curtain back in the good old days. THEY just quit planning and scheming and implementing the take over of this government. THEY turned over a new leaf. THEY let go of their big idea. THEY decided not to take over the democratic party. the shit that’s raining down on this country right now… that brown stuff… i’m sure it’s just from the past 7 years.
I have very mixed feelings about xmas. Kids like it and expect gifts and everyone likes gifting, the givers and the receivers.
But… this whole consumerism aspect of the holiday season is very problematic and we act like automatons and rush out and buy buy buy and most is useless junk. And we create a new breed of consumers.
We really need to move away from consumerism. Our little planet can’t support it.
I am asking for tickets to the ballet for xmas. Is that awful?
Fresh thready goodness, for anyone who wants some…
My daughter’s school has a great idea. Instead for giving the teacher a gift, the teachers have set up a “giving fund” which allows students/parents to give a cash donation in honor of their classroom teacher. The teachers are then told about student families in need and use the fund to purchase clothes, gifts and school needs for the families. It is a great way to reflect the purpose of the season. Everybody ends receiving the “good” in life…
All fine and good. Things must change, but how. We keep sending people to Washingtom to change things and where has it gotten us.
You can’t just keep doing the same old thing and expect a different solution. It would not be bad to ahve someone in the White House that believes like John Edwards, but Washington is not where we need to center our attention.
James Lowe did not gte the ability to speak from the governemnt. People pravately funding and giving of their time is the resiource that RAM uses.
We talk a lot about the U S being a Christian Nation, and it does not seem we understand exactly what that means. I can not change the world. I have a life to live and family to take care of, but I can “Brighten the Corner”* where I am. By being involved in my community to help my neighbors, I reap wonderous rewards and teach the next generation to do the same.
When we as a people change, our Government will change. We as a people must stop the immediate gradification orgy and learn to do with less, give more and keep it pretty much local.
There are uses for the Federal GOvernment but they are only where things need to be done and co-ordianted on a wide scale. Defence, interstate commerce, protection of rights (courts), and a few other things.
We have turned our lives over to others who do not always have pur interests at heart. We rely on daycare, hursing homes, fast foods , processed foods, predigested thought, visual anesthetics, fosil fuels, and an uncaring Government. We need to take back our lives, not our governemnt. We are the government, those people in Washington are temporary caretakers of our interests.
Great vote for someone that is really concerned about the betterment of people, but the day that changes our lives and our country is not Election say, it is Today.
I have taught two generation of children that tomorrow will be exactly the dame as today unless today you are doing something to change it.
We can not wait for others to fix things we need to take responsibilty for ourselves and look in to our commiunity to help someone “Where you Are”*. You say I do not have the time. Then that is the place you start. It is your life if you do not have time to make your world and the world your childrem or loved ones will live in, then you need to re-evaluate your priorities.
It takes one person commiting random acts of kindness, or if you will excuse my faith – acts of Love.
* old hymn, Brighten the Corner Where You Are.
SanderO — I think tickets to the ballet sounds like a lovely gift. We’ve cut way back on purchases for adults and we’re contemplating charitible donations in various people’s names this year in lieu of “stuff,” because it just feels like the right thing to do. When I do buy gifts, I try to get things that give back a bit — shade grown coffee or charity-donation-related items or something along those lines because it also seems more in keeping with the spirit of the season.
But kids are another story, I think, especially the tiny ones, although I still try and get educational and/or charity-related-give-back gifts where I can there as well. Christmas should be fun, but we also make sure The Peanut goes shopping to help fill the Salvation Army stockings every year, and we have a talk about children who don’t have presents and how nice it is to give to others so they can have a Christmas, etc. As she gets older, we’ll get her to help serve at the local shelter and/or help us do more, but we aren’t at that point as yet maturity-wise.
My parents did that with me, as did Mr. ReddHedd’s with him. We think it’s important that she learns that with our comforts comes a responsibility to help others — because it is the right thing to do for them, and for us.
A bit back in the thread but where oh where does Mr Boskin get his statistics? Tell you for sure, the standard of living in the UK has not by any measure gone down over the last generation despite us having a tax funded National Health Service which ain’t perfect but nevertheless works fairly well most of the time.
The one thing we know is that we will never, never be left untreated if we are seriously ill.
In honor of this great dialogue, the concern for others and this great democracy, I post this link from Woody Hayes’ commencement speech in 1986.
Many do not know, Hayes was a history professor as well as a famous football coach. He was a personal friend to my father and a dear person for me to know in childhood.
Enjoy the read and “pay it forward”.
KLynn @ 110
I meant to write, enjoy the read, minus the Nixon reference, and pay it forward!
I tried to find the Tennessee Ernie Ford version of this hymn, but couldn’t. However, this is nice:
Brighten the Corner
allan_in_upstate @ 13
The Scandinavian countries Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Finland are well known for their social infrastructure. How did they fare in the Economist’s quality-of-life index? 3/5/9/12. The USA placed 13th.
Ireland and Switzerland placed 1-2.
Rounding out the top ten, Luxembourg, Australia, Iceland, Italy and Spain.
In the 2007 Mercer quality of living survey of cities worldwide, none of the top 25 cities are American. Honolulu places 27th, beating out Helsinki at 29th, but Copenhagen (11), Stockholm (20), and Oslo (26) do better still. Switzerland places 1-2 with Zurich and Geneva.
I finally am able to write some of my thoughts down on the post above. It breaks my heart that anyone would have to wait 50 years to have a cleft palate treated. Especially in a country like America, supposedly the richest country in the world. What have we become?
there are places here in philadelphia that don’t have access to healthcare and depend on mobile units for basic services.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 108
My fondest memories of Christmas as a child was visiting the “shut-ins”. My mother made cookies and we would make packages. My Mother, my two sisters, and I would then go to the homes of people who could not get out on their own, we called them shut-ins, and we sang Christmas Carols and visited. There are several experiences with my parents that profoundly addressed the issues of our time in simple, quiet, loving ways, and this was one.
My Mother’s Father was born two years before Lincoln was President, 1858. They were of the era that when a person’s house burned down, people from town would go over and rebuild the house. No insurance, no claims to fill out, no waiting for a settlement. My grandmother was a mid-wife and nurse. Her services were free or barter. People taking care of People.
I’ve been a nurse for 35 years and for the last 30 I’ve said we have third world health care. Health care workers know.
Christy, thank you for writing about this. You made me weep.
I’ve worked a lot with the poor. I’ve been the poor. I feel wealthy when I have enough saved up to last two months, because I know how hard others have it.
My advocacy for the poor is precisely why I must vote for Edwards. He and Kucinich seem to be the only ones who understand what poor is and why it must constantly be fought,
I hope the greatheartedness of you and your husband is rewarded many times over.
Fortunately, my spouse and I have some wherewithall. However, our son is diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome. He is in great health, and doesn’t need any meds for his Aspergers. He doesn’t need mental health services, and special schooling is taken care of by our school district. BUT I cannot get him health insurance AT ANY PRICE.
Whazzup with that?
With the economy the way it is how many can still give as much to charity or even give at all? When things are tough the first thing that people stop is giving money to charity. So as the economy continues to slide in to the tank charities will have find it more difficult to help the same numbers of people they have in the past.
All of which is a Catch 22…the economy is bad so people give less, the economy is bad so more people need a helping hand. Maybe we can relabel this as a Bush 22?
Many people, not just Fox News viewers, don’t fully understand the need for impeachment of Cheney and then Bush.
I am writing a series of three articles that put forward the reality of that need in terms of world opinion, the crimes of this administration, and ultimately the danger of allowing this kind of behavior to continue unchecked.
This is the first.
http://willyloman.wordpress.co…..s-that-so/
Lest we forget, as President Bush told the woman who was working three jobs (paraphrasing)…
“Isn’t it great that in America, people have the opportunity to get their medical care, at little or no cost, in a bleached horse stall. Only in America!”
Yeah, only in America and many, many other third world nations!
The scene of these doctors, operating in tents, reminded me of Civil War battlefields, where amputations without anesthesia were the rule.
This is America 2007? Just dreadful. I’d love this photo-essay to be on the nightly news: maybe big-mouths railing against “socialized medicine’ would see how degraded our valuing of human life has become here.
jo6pac @ 22
I wonder if this is true anymore. Isn’t the EU comparable in terms of wealth and GDP to the US? Also, in the EU, wealth is measured in terms of quality of life not just mere wealth accumulation.
I think that health care is one of the things government does better than the private sector as service rather than profit is/needs to be the driving force. Health care needs to be not for profit and universal, which means the death of the Ferengi health insurance industry.
Pursang @ 120
All the reason why my Modest Proposal makes sense. It is not giving it is saving/investment.
Using the principles of Capitalism we can also help our fellow citizens, strenghten our economy and maybe earn some Modest returns on our investment. Not a handout, a hand up.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 47
Send multiple letters because it’s too easy for them to say they didn’t receive one. It’s much harder to say they didn’t receive all ten of them. I would also suggest putting a cc at the bottom of the letter to a third party (your local press would be good). That way you have a third party who can testify if they received the letter.
I’m having troubletyping right now as I can’t stop crying.Wow, Thhank you for tying this together.