Comments on: No Access – Gitmo SOP Leaked http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:22:58 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: molly http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1105317 molly Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:34:27 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1105317 <p>Sue Arrigio M.D. on conspiracy planet is a must read with what is going on with US tax dollars. worse than Hitler…torture and killing. Ours is very sexual in nature.</p> Sue Arrigio M.D. on conspiracy planet is a must read with what is going on with US tax dollars. worse than Hitler…torture and killing. Ours is very sexual in nature.

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1105238 mui Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:25:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1105238 <p>Even with probable sanitization, this place looks ugly as hell. Sort of a cross between a mental hospital from some hellish era and the a prison from another hellish era. It’s hard to pinpoint what I feel is ugliest because there is so much in that video:The infantilization, the darker hints, who knows. The “freedom” part. Even the “standard issue koran” seems insulting. I am thoroughly embarassed for my country. Are this guards so ding-dong that they feel that everything’s ok?</p> Even with probable sanitization, this place looks ugly as hell. Sort of a cross between a mental hospital from some hellish era and the a prison from another hellish era. It’s hard to pinpoint what I feel is ugliest because there is so much in that video:The infantilization, the darker hints, who knows. The “freedom” part. Even the “standard issue koran” seems insulting. I am thoroughly embarassed for my country. Are this guards so ding-dong that they feel that everything’s ok?

]]> By: sombrerofallout http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1105128 sombrerofallout Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:51:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1105128 <p><a href="#comment-1104513"><em>Laura Doty @ 111</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>In fairness, the Amer. Medical Assoc, the Amer. Psychiatric Assoc, the Amer. Nursing Assoc, the Amer. Assoc of Social Workers have all declared that it is unethical for their members to participate in the interrogation of prisoners. Only the Amer. Psychological Assoc. continues to countenance its members’ participation.</p></blockquote> <p>Why should we be fair? A resolution is nothing, and practically pitiless; the APA has never so much as moved to change policies; those trade associations aren’t applying any pressure on the APA, nor are they acting to leverage change.</p> <p>Same as initial situation.</p> <p>No one’s policing their own. Psychologists are pariahs until they do.</p> Laura Doty @ 111

In fairness, the Amer. Medical Assoc, the Amer. Psychiatric Assoc, the Amer. Nursing Assoc, the Amer. Assoc of Social Workers have all declared that it is unethical for their members to participate in the interrogation of prisoners. Only the Amer. Psychological Assoc. continues to countenance its members’ participation.

Why should we be fair? A resolution is nothing, and practically pitiless; the APA has never so much as moved to change policies; those trade associations aren’t applying any pressure on the APA, nor are they acting to leverage change.

Same as initial situation.

No one’s policing their own. Psychologists are pariahs until they do.

]]> By: annie http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1105114 annie Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:19:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1105114 <p>thanks siun</p> <p>the video was weird. that part about the guard issing on the koran(!) justa little wind came up and all that. also the interrogation room w/the lounge chair.. </p> <p>something seems amiss. i remember a newyorker article about tecniques.. something tells me this video is a touch sanitized.</p> <p>what a shame, a disgrace. what has happened to our democracy?</p> thanks siun

the video was weird. that part about the guard issing on the koran(!) justa little wind came up and all that. also the interrogation room w/the lounge chair..

something seems amiss. i remember a newyorker article about tecniques.. something tells me this video is a touch sanitized.

what a shame, a disgrace. what has happened to our democracy?

]]> By: kirk james murphy, m.d. http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104640 kirk james murphy, m.d. Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:37:36 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104640 <p>David, you are a psychologist? Cool.</p> <p>With the greatest respect to you and Laura (and Peterr) my mental image was that you were some form of religious teacher: pagan priest(ess), rabbi, Buddhist monk, Holy Father, iman, reverend, guru, nun…..</p> David, you are a psychologist? Cool.

With the greatest respect to you and Laura (and Peterr) my mental image was that you were some form of religious teacher: pagan priest(ess), rabbi, Buddhist monk, Holy Father, iman, reverend, guru, nun…..

]]> By: Eureka Springs http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104637 Eureka Springs Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:37:16 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104637 <p>As always, Thank you Siun.</p> As always, Thank you Siun.

]]> By: Mt http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104591 Mt Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:23:43 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104591 <p>Haven’t had a chance to read all the comments but was just finishing up Scott Hortons’ post on torture, Gitmo, etc. etc.here: </p> <p><a href="http://harpers.org/archive/2007/11/hbc-90001697">http://harpers.org/archive/2007/11/hbc-90001697</a></p> <p>As well as his previous post pertaining more to Gitmo and psych: <a href="http://harpers.org/archive/2007/11/hbc-90001695">http://harpers.org/archive/2007/11/hbc-90001695</a></p> <p>Both worth a read……</p> Haven’t had a chance to read all the comments but was just finishing up Scott Hortons’ post on torture, Gitmo, etc. etc.here:

http://harpers.org/archive/2007/11/hbc-90001697

As well as his previous post pertaining more to Gitmo and psych: http://harpers.org/archive/2007/11/hbc-90001695

Both worth a read……

]]> By: greenwarrior http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104586 greenwarrior Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:22:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104586 <p><a href="#comment-1104547"><em>kirk james murphy, m.d. @ 135</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>oops - my bad, Laura.</p></blockquote> <p>LOL</p> kirk james murphy, m.d. @ 135

oops – my bad, Laura.

LOL

]]> By: dubhaltach http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104585 dubhaltach Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:21:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104585 <blockquote><p>The Pashtun suffered the same fate as the Kurds, dissected into oblivion, strewn across numerous arbitrary national boundaries. </p></blockquote> <p>Which is one reason why they’re not even remotely pacifistic today.</p>

The Pashtun suffered the same fate as the Kurds, dissected into oblivion, strewn across numerous arbitrary national boundaries.

Which is one reason why they’re not even remotely pacifistic today.

]]> By: greenwarrior http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104577 greenwarrior Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:19:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/18/no-access-gitmo-sop-leaked/#comment-1104577 <p><a href="#comment-1104526"><em>bhatten @ 123</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>To Green @ 114; I like you analysis and really I do not think the immunity thing is minor. To look at your list, and to know the list goes longer, is appalling. What occurs to me as well is more understanding about why they have so much wanted to appoint the Federal bench. While most of the heat has been about Roe, etc., the real power is going to be in these crazy positions on freedoms and letting so much illegality go unpunished. For the years of Judge appointments, they have deep cover for these terrible acts. Reid has really stepped up by not letting the Senate go on recess. Clearly W is a sociopath and a tool, and there is no limit to what he is willing to do. The impeachment tipping point may be getting nearer.</p></blockquote> <p>from your lips to congress’s ears!</p> bhatten @ 123

To Green @ 114; I like you analysis and really I do not think the immunity thing is minor. To look at your list, and to know the list goes longer, is appalling. What occurs to me as well is more understanding about why they have so much wanted to appoint the Federal bench. While most of the heat has been about Roe, etc., the real power is going to be in these crazy positions on freedoms and letting so much illegality go unpunished. For the years of Judge appointments, they have deep cover for these terrible acts. Reid has really stepped up by not letting the Senate go on recess. Clearly W is a sociopath and a tool, and there is no limit to what he is willing to do. The impeachment tipping point may be getting nearer.

from your lips to congress’s ears!

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