(Picture taken by suneko and posted under a Creative Commons license in Flickr. Don’t know if these little foxes are really vixens, but searching specifically for ‘vixens’ only seems to turn up the two-legged kind.)
Good morning, everyone! How’s your Saturday going so far?
While readiing a Village Voice article on the nonexistent fuse of America’s MayorTM, Rudy “If It’s Tuesday, I’m Married To Judi” Giuliani, I ran across this ad for “the Kingdom of Vixens” next to it in the sidebar:
Well, you know what happens when you put vixens near Rudy. Which, of course, gets me thinking about Rudy’s checked marital history. You know, the subject that David Broder won’t touch even as he obsessively harps on the marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton?
Say what you will about the idea of staying together for the kids, but it sure looks like it worked for Chelsea: She gets along just fine with both her mom and dad.
Contrast that with Rudy’s kids by his second wife, Donna Hanover, who Rudy apparently forgot all about in his desperate testosterone-fueled midlife crisis lunge at Judi Nathan:
In a telephone interview yesterday, Andrew, a sophomore and member of the golf team at Duke University, acknowledged having had difficulties with Ms. Nathan, and said that he and his father had recently tried to reconcile after not speaking “for a decent amount of time.”
“There’s obviously a little problem that exists between me and his wife,” the younger Mr. Giuliani said. “And we’re trying to figure that out. But as of right now it’s not working as well as we would like.”
Andrew Giuliani said he would not participate in his father’s campaign, saying his devotion to becoming a professional golfer within three years allows no time for distraction.
Uh-huh. Yeah, right, Andrew.
While he would not say how long he had been estranged from his father, others close to the family said it appeared to have been for at least a year.
…Similarly, a distance appears to have developed between Mr. Giuliani and his daughter, now a high school senior who is to attend Harvard University in September.
[...]
Some campaign Web sites highlight pictures of candidates with family members, but Mr. Giuliani’s does not mention his children, though it includes photographs and mentions of Ms. Nathan.
This distancing is rather odd, considering that the kids used to be two of Rudy’s favorite props to show everyone what a kind and caring family man he was:
Mr. Giuliani once prided himself on attending all his children’s events and went to Andrew’s high school football games and Caroline’s plays. But he stopped at some point after his marriage to Ms. Nathan in 2003. He missed his son’s graduation, in 2005, and his daughter’s plays in the last 18 months, said people who attended those events.
[...]
In 1989, Ms. Hanover and Andrew, then 3, were at Mr. Giuliani’s side when he declared his mayoral candidacy. Caroline appeared with the family in campaign commercials after her birth in August that year.
When Mr. Giuliani ran in 1993, he and Andrew were featured playing baseball; Caroline appeared in a commercial blowing soap bubbles.
Then again, it’s been pretty apparent to those who’ve paid attention that Rudy, like so many other prominent Republicans, has always put his own gratification above all else, even (if not especially) his family. This 2000 CBS profile gives a quick rundown of some of the women in his life up to that time, but amazingly enough neglects to mention his first wife and second cousin, Regina Peruggi. (But of course, that only goes up to 2000. There’s been some alleged, erm, movement since then.)
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PW! No fair *laughing*
Hey not fair. Greeting from NE Iowa. How’s it in Minnesota?
It’s pretty slow this morning. We were just commenting on that downstairs.
Hey! PW deserves a zed once in a while too. More power to her!
Hey Phoenix Woman!
Jim Clausen @ 4
Not too bad — mid-30s Fahrenheit; if I wasn’t chatting with you all, I’d be biking on down to the Farmer’s Market.
Quebecois @ 6
Thanks, Quebecois! How are you today?
The animals are Fennecs, Desert Foxes from the Sahara.
egregious @ 7
Good morning!
Morning PW. I’m going to move towards shower and leaving the house, things like that. Back later.
mornin’ all.
Phyltress @ 10
Thanks. I was looking for a good picture of multiple red fox vixens, but couldn’t find any pics of such. (Plus, the buggers won’t lift their tails so I can see if they’re really vixens. Oh, well.)
TexBetsy @ 12
Adios, TB!
Phyltress @ 10
Well of course, it is Fennecs Woman’s post.
egregious @ 16
What a fox!
Hey, folks! I wanted to keep things semi-light, yet with some serious content, for those of us who need to relax at the end of the week. Hence, the vixens!
Phoenix Woman @ 18
The ones in the picture are adorably cute with those giant ears…It works for me!
*studiously ignoring egregious’ pun* ;-)
Doing fine, thanks you so much. Nice read too. Planning on sunrise pictures, on the St-Laurent river tomorrow morning. It’s freezing in Montreal, sunny, a bit of wind.
Read your nice piece. Giuliani has no achievement other than “cleaning up a city” (mafia style)on his record. It’s all image, the man is pure dangerous fluff. Nothing else.
egregious @ 16
Heh! (pauses to shake dust out of really long ears)
To me Rudy seems like the dumbist guy in the world to run for President. Bernie Kerik is going to be on trial next year. Strike One. The NY Fire Department is totally against Rudy. Strike Two. Three wives. Strike Three.
Phoenix Woman @ 18
If you wanted to keep it light, did you consider diamonds or pearls? Or must this slot be led by an animal pic? I guess donkeys or elephants would not be appropriate.
Phoenix Woman @ 20
Gonna meet the master Punaise in a few hours at the NorCal meetup. Probably get smited.
Quebecois @ 21
Just a touch above freezing here, warm enough so that when I go biking later I can get by with thin wool gloves under my oversized fingerless bike gloves. (I cursed myself originally for getting them a size too big, but they work beautifully when I put a thin glove under them!)
Oh yeah. He’s the original Vicar of Bray, he is.
peanutbutter @ 19
If TRex can be a dinosaur, I guess I can be a mammalian predator animal. (Though I already am a mythical bird that heals people with my tears and song, and bursts into flame every so often. ;-)
eCAHNomics @ 23
Nah, I’m not CNN. :-)
It fell out pretty much as described in the post: I was reading the VV article on Rudy, saw the Vixens ad in the sidebar, and the juxtaposition made me think of Rudy’s horndogging.
Several months ago I found videos of Fennec foxes on YouTube by a person who keeps them as pets. They really are marvelous little creatures – very cute, sweet and curious!
Hey, what’s with all the Giuliani-bashing? Do you guys wanna end up to the left of France or something?
egregious @ 25
I’ll be thinking of you. And pouting about the fun I will be missing.
Have they shut down the comments on Mrs. Giuliani over at WaPo? They were coming steadily and now I can’t read any after 11:16.
If so, it’s the “typical world order” under a Giuliani reign. He tolerates no dissent.
OMG, on C-SPAN2 someone is going to resuscitate Sen. Joseph McCarthy’s reputation. Spew alert.
Jane (nyc) @ 31
Hey, I got mine in before they closed. Didn’t see any that were positive, did you?
EvilDrPuma @ 29
Considering that Sarkozy’s right-wing Chicago-School economics (even more extreme than Chirac’s) are flushing France’s (and even the EU’s) economy down the same toilet Bush has flushed ours: Yeah, that would be a very good thing!
eCAHNomics @ 32
McCarthy’s reputation is as dead as he is. Pass it on.
EvilDrPuma @ 29
Read Glenn Greenwald’s latest on Rude E. Scary.
Egregious, would you extend my heartfelt salutations to Pun when you meet him later. And accept my tip of the hat for your writing here, I immensely enjoy your stuff.
Good Morning Phoenix Woman,
On my little desk here, just to The Left of my laptop, I have a tiny hand bell. It’s old. Got it at a garage sale, made of brass. The handle is a Phoenix.
Ding.
eCAHNomics @ 32
They keep trying that every few years. William F. Buckley used to lead the charge. They’re essentially waiting for the people who were actually alive then to die off, just like how the Holocaust deniers are picking up steam now that the number of death-camp survivors is dwindling.
Those East of France once declared Rudy an incestuous pervert.
A Roman Catholic Church annulment of the Giuliani-Peruggi marriage was granted at the end of 1983 on the grounds that they had not obtained a church dispensation for second cousins once removed to marry; IOW Too close..incest according to the church!
Jane (nyc) @ 31
Hi Jane, sorry I missed you the other day … how’re you and mom doing ?
demi @ 38
Oooh, shiny!
EvilDrPuma @ 35
Claiming to have new info released both by U.S. & ex-Soviets after the fall of communism. Shows”massive” communist penetration of U.S. govt at the time.
Don’t blame me, I’m just telling you what he sez.
Quebecois @ 37
Wow. Thank you. Of course happy to pass along your good wishes, certainement!
Phoenix Woman @ 39
Good context. Thanks.
Quebecois @ 37
Bonjour mon ami … fall and Hockey … mmm mmmm … please post those pics, they sound amazing …
demi @ 38
((((( demi )))))
BobbyG @ 36
Let it not be said that Rudy is just another right-wing nutcase. He’s in a class by himself.
It’s not shiney. It’s dark. Does brass turn dark? I could polish it, but I like that it looks old. Sometimes I imagine where this little guy came from.
I always smile when I look at it.
I think I paid a dime.
eCAHNomics @ 42
Uh-huh. Time to barricade the doors and start foaming at the mouth. Yeah, right.
Good Chilly Morning to you Petrocelli.
(I’ve got blueberry muffins in the stove.)
Ding!
EvilDrPuma @ 47
Yeah. Thinks there’s no way things could be any worse after Bu’ush? Elect Rude E and be proven wrong.
Ugh.
demi @ 51
You do realize that Blueberry is the national fruit of Canada ?
… pass some of those on up here and I’ll send you some fine Quebec Cheese …
eCAHNomics @ 42
And yet McCarthy didn’t find any of them. Just like Bush’s massive abridgement of the rights of Americans hasn’t found any “terrorists” more serious than some guys who wanted to blow up the Sears Tower but didn’t know how to get to Chicago.
Hm.
eCAHNomics @ 43
Sure, if by “massive communist penetration” you mean those who were opposed to the Govt.’s war mongering policies …
I did Not know that, Petro. Thanks. Gives me an idea for holiday gifts for my brother-in-law whose family is in Toronto.
**
Here’s your muffin.
How did you know I love cheese?
EvilDrPuma @ 29
Yeah, and with no cliche left behind? Morning, everyone!
demi @ 56
merci !
I have never met a wine lover who did not love cheese too …
change of plans. after shower I discovered that house is quiet and i am back in bed with all of you. very kinky. leaving the house can wait.
Phoenix Woman @ 39
My mother was a secretary in Joe Welch’s law firm in Boston.
He was the lead lawyer for the Army in the Army-McCarthy hearings, one of the earliest televised Congressional hearings, and is best known for his line:
“You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?”
Redshift @ 53
But, those secretly collected panoptic domestic dossiers will in fact come in handy for other purposes.
Loo Hoo!
Have some blueberry muffins and cheese.
It’ll be a nice distraction for your stomach from this Russert/Gerson thing we’re watching on CSPAN.
Loo Hoo. @ 57
((((( Loo Hoo )))))
demi @ 62
Breakfast with the Issa-Busters ?
F*ck it, I’m popping the Champagne …
TexBetsy.
Scoot over. You don’t mind muffin crumbs in your bed, do you?
Hi PW! haw haw! trying to imagine what mrgoogul has lined up for your pop-up ads probably lasting until you replace your hard drive, heh.
whatever, it’s clear mr. g. does not consider himself to be dull. whutalife he leads. Whatever his intentions, there’s a resounding, “NO THANKS!” from this household, grown-up kids included. eeeww.
Cute guys in the pic. Tell me, please, all you Fennec experts, are they the same as Bat-eared Fox??? Seriously, I don’t know, but try googling “bat-eared fox pictures”.
hm-m-m.
eCAHNomics at 33
Saw you post over at WaPo and loved it. We people with NYC/Rudy experience are going to have to missionaries of the truth on him/them.
You take your country house area. I’ll do the duty here in rural NC!
eCAHNomics @ 43
I love how they see that as so evil, yet ignore the massive fascist penetration of U.S. government, both before and after World War Two (which we almost didn’t enter — it took the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor to make the German-funded isolationists shut the hell up).
Project Paperclip was but the tip of a very nasty iceberg.
There was a woman collecting signatures at our polling place on election day to get Giuliani on the VA primary ballot, and she wanted to know why I wouldn’t sign. I wasn’t really expecting the question (most people outside the polls know how to take no for an answer, but interestingly, Rudy seemed to attract really pushy people) so I just talked about his entire campaign being based on how he happened to be mayor on 9/11, and a bit about Kerik.
If it happens again, I’ll just say “because I think he’s far and away the most dangerous person running for president.”
Thanks demi! Love muffins.
demi @ 64
“Do you allow crumbs in your bed?”
She used to live around corner from my building.
Had a little yippie dog, and was on my schedule for a while, buying a paper at the Yemeni bodega on 3rd Ave at around the same time I did, with my dog.
At some point, she started being accompanied by beef. I always wondered who was paying for the bodyguard…
Redshift @ 54
The right-wing (led by members of Accuracy in Media), was filled around 2000-2001 with assertions that new files” opened by the KGB showed that McCarthy was “right”….but in fact they never produced the documents. They merely parotted the McCarthy hearing “evidence.
This is the same TX governor who recently endorsed Giuliani —-
http://texbetsy.headonradionet…..s-scandal/
$1 million donation dogs Perry to national stage
Travis County attorney is reviewing 2006 donation from GOP group
As Gov. Rick Perry ascends the leadership ranks of the Republican Governors Association, jetting to the group’s California meeting later this month, he and the association are dogged by questions about $1 million the group gave Perry last year.
Did Perry and the governors association, as alleged in a lawsuit by former Democratic gubernatorial candidate Chris Bell, intentionally conceal the sources of the association’s money? Or was it just a clerical error, as Perry says, that prevented Texas voters from knowing who was sending money through the association to the Perry campaign?
Petrocelli @ 41
We’re OK here in the hinterlands. Am preparing for 22 for turkey day. It’s taking patience but am just trying to invoke my own personal golden rule for how I hope to be treated at 85.
Lots of overdue heavy cleaning and reaaranging going on here. You can’t hire people to do this stuff! However, it helps with my agita about politics — and particularly when I read things like the waste of trees WaPo is today.
How are you?
A little potpourri this morning thanks to PW’s prompt. Cinnamon-spicy with an undernote of apple and orange and clove for those of us in the laid-low-by-crud recuperation contingent.
CNN has an interesting interview with writer Walter Mosley that includes mention of the activist group he’s developing. Quote of note:
A kindred spirit, methinks.
Ed Schultz had a great parody song for Ghouliani when hizzoner was in Fargo: Rotten Rudy, bom, bom, bom, Rotten Rudy… unfortunately no link available. Fortunately, the tee-vee showed a wee, closed-door crowd.
And any truth to the rumor that Romney’s crowd set-up those anti-Romney push polls themselves? How Rovian that would be…he is Jebbie’s candidate after all. Could that Bush family imprimateur be why Rudy-buddy Kerik got nailed? Backstage strings being pulled?
Hi to the Good Eg in Cali-forni…may the sun be shinin’ on ya.
egregious @ 71
You’re changing the sheets, right?
Petrocellli @ 46
Posting pics implies putting a picasa link here, not sure I want to do that… Any suggestions or recommendations would be welcomed.
Tomorrow, after those sunrise shots, I’m off to Trois-Rivieres, to see a football game, Quebec championship for 13-14 year old kids. Great family atmosphere in there, gung-ho parents are escorted out…
Petrocelli, hope all is well in To. for you, I should be down there after christmas, for new year.
Cheers!
TexBetsy @ 74
Oops. Poor Perry just can’t keep his skeletons in the closet, can he?
Redshift @ 68
2008 is gonna be one ugly year (assuming Bu’ush doesn’t pull the trigger on Iran, which would make it a calamitous year).
You know, for all the freaking out the righties do about Commies, the closest we’ve ever come to an armed coup (as opposed to the slow-motion coup BushCo’s been working on) was in fact in 1934.
And the coup plotters were all extreme right-wing industrialists. If not for Smedley Butler, they could have very well pulled it off: Hearst’s newspaper empire would have backed them, as would have many other reactionary media outfits of the time
Quebecois @ 78
post them to your fb page in an album open to ALL.
Redshift @ 54
Yep.
Petrocellli @ 64
I say let’s toast to Suzanne and the NorCal pups!
TexBetsy @ 74
Governor Goodhair steps on his on willie again!
Loo Hoo. @ 84
*clink*
they’re gonna have a blast!
BobbyG @ 36
Funny thing about this. I live in NYC, and hated G from the getgo, but I never saw him as the ideologue that Greenwald paints him. Now you can’t deny his words, but they don’t seem to fit the man
I lived (with?/under?)who was my mayor for 8 years.I suspect the circled is squared as follows:
1. G knows nothing about foreign policy.
2. Therefore he’ll believe anything his foreign policy advisors, like Podhoretz, tell him.
3. G is a rabid egomaniac. He thinks that extremism is the fast track to the WH.
Therefore, his words seem inconsistent with his prior utterances, which is why he gets away with a reputation as a non-ideologist, which he was in the past. The link is lack of knowledge & willingness to do anything to become prez.
3.
Prairie,
Thanks for the sunshine!
Elliott @ 86
L’chaim!
I say let’s toast to Suzanne and the NorCal pups!
Holding up my cuppa coffee.
I was just thinking I wish we could send up some muffins, wine and cheese to them.
They are gonna have one heckofa good time.
Cheers to them.
(Are they going to live-blog, does anyone know?)
Good Morning PW from Phoenix… and everyone else
currently it is 73 with a forecast high of 81 with Abundant sunshine. We are in the boring weather mode….
I am hunting for an article on Rudy about all his investments since 911…. scary things …
TexBetsy @ 89
Skol!
demi @ 90
surely they’ll at least check in with us tonight!
Jane (nyc) @ 75
I have personal experience in caring for a loved one during their twilight years … it will be challenging but you’ll like the person you discover within!
OTOH, don’t be afraid to ask for help …
EvilDrPuma @ 92
Na zdrowie
Jane
I’m doing heavy cleaning and rearranging too. But, my company is not coming until xmas. Am I doing it too soon? Prolly, but I’m just in the mood.
Quebecois @ 78
A few scenic pics on Facebook would be nice …
eCAHNomics @ 87
That’s exactly it. Rudy’s ideology is Rudy. He’s the Vicar of Bray. (Or Don King “coming with the champion and leaving with the champion”, for a more modern coat-changing reference.)
Waiting for the beef on “govt full of commies.” Lots about Chambers-Hiss, very little about anything else. Sounds like rewashing the same old laundry.
Loo Hoo. @ 84
Ole !
Chin chin !
Phoenix Woman @ 81
Smedley Butler
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Smedley Butler
July 30, 1881(1881-07-30)–June 21, 1940 (aged 58)
Smedley D. Butler
Nickname “Old Gimlet Eye”
“The Fighting Quaker”
“Old Duckboard”
Place of birth West Chester, Pennsylvania
Place of death Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Allegiance United States of America
Service/branch United States Marine Corps
Years of service 1898–1931
Rank Major General
Commands 13th Regiment
Marine Expeditionary Force, China
Battles/wars Boxer Rebellion
Banana Wars
Occupation of Veracruz (1914)
Occupation of Haiti
World War I
Awards Medal of Honor (2)
Marine Corps Brevet Medal
Army Distinguished Service Medal
Navy Distinguished Service Medal
French Order of the Black Star
Other work writer and speaker
Director of Public Safety (Philadelphia) (1924–1925)
Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed “The Fighting Quaker” and “Old Gimlet Eye,” was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history.
During his 34 years of Marine Corps service, Butler was awarded numerous medals for heroism including the Marine Corps Brevet Medal (the highest Marine medal at its time for officers), and subsequently the Medal of Honor twice. Notably, he is one of only 19 people to be twice awarded the Medal of Honor, and one of only three to be awarded a Marine Corps Brevet Medal and a Medal of Honor, and the only person to be awarded a Marine Corps Brevet Medal and a Medal of Honor for two different actions.
In addition to his military career, Smedley Butler was noted for his outspoken anti-interventionist views, and his book War is a Racket. His book was one of the first works describing the workings of the military-industrial complex and after retiring from service, he became a popular speaker at meetings organized by veterans, pacifists and church groups in the 1930s.
In 1934, he informed the United States Congress that a group of wealthy industrialists had plotted a military coup to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
May we all get to heaven before the devil knows we’re dead.
Adie @ 66
Okay. Answered me own question. Bat-eared Fox is different genus even: Otocyon megalotis also African tho, & with huge ears.
Fennec is Vulpes zerda, and definitely the cuter vixen of the several mentioned in your screed PW. ;->
I’ve gotta go hit the showers. I’ll try to be back later, but can y’all hold the fort until then?
eCAHNomics @ 86
While your historical take on Rude E may be accurate, that was then, this is now. Of course, you can say the same of others, e.g., Mitt
MoroniRomney.We need not look much beyond Bu’ush himself, in retrospect. Take a relatively unassuming, unaccomplished dilettante, Peter Principle his ass into the WH, surround him with 24/7 flattering warmongering courtiers — bingo, Crooosading Messiah.
Well, that was fun. Just read the WaPo piece and all the comments. Besides everything else, Judith refers to herself in the third person. That alone makes me dislike her.
I’m really surprised Rudy is actually a contender, I didn’t take his campaign seriously when he entered the race. I see no appeal whatsoever.
And the meglomaniacal ego, well it’s a pretty good bet that’ll do him in.
least I hope so
Heh heh heh. She left the inmates in charge of the asylum! Party time.
TexBetsy @ 108
LOL … I thought that popping champagne might clue her in … *g*
Isn’t it ironic that the type of people who think there’s evil to be found under every rock, can’t find a real commie or WMD with such extensive searches?
demi @ 90
Suzanne said she isn’t going to be in front of the computer, but maybe between all of them we’ll here something…
Tony Blair: ‘I wanted war.’
from Think Progress by Faiz
In an upcoming BBC documentary entitled The Blair Years, former British Prime Minister Tony Blair “admitted for the first time that he ignored the pleas of his aides and ministers to deter President Bush from waging war on Iraq because he believed that America was doing the right thing. And he has acknowledged that he turned down a last-ditch offer from Mr Bush to pull Britain out of the conflict.” By the spring of 2004, Blair was suffering a “crisis of confidence” about the decision he made:
Tony Blair suffered an extraordinary crisis of confidence which almost triggered his resignation three years before he left office, his friends have suggested.
In the spring of 2004, Mr Blair was deeply depressed by the failure to secure a lasting peace in Iraq and relations had plummeted to a new low with Gordon Brown because of his refusal to set a date to quit 10 Downing Street.
How could anyone not go to their own child’s graduation ceremony?
Well, yeah, kinda hard to be at the computer what with her hosting that many people. She might be kinda pooped tonight? But really happy.
Loo Hoo. @ 111
Who knows, perhaps one of the participants will be around for Late Late Nite.
Phoenix Woman @ 104
Sure! And Elliot, the festivities at Suzanne’s are from noon ’till six.
Loo Hoo. @ 113
Perhaps if they were asked to stay away.
demi @ 110
Brad Pitt said, “If you look around the Poker table and don’t see a chump then the chump is you …
EvilDrPuma @ 29
The answer is…9-11.
;>)
Loo Hoo: Yeah. Smedley Butler was loved by his men because he, though from a patrician background, actually cared about them. He pushed for lining trenches with wooden slats of the sort used for flooring in field hospitals, a simple act that saved thousands of Allied lives by keeping the men drier and out of the muck. Plus, he was one of the few military brass to back the Bonus Army veterans.
Smedley’s one problem was that the DuPont coup attempt, coupled with his years of experience running the “racket”, made him deeply suspicious of getting involved in Europe as Hitler was making his big move; if he’d not been isolationist WRT Hitler, the story of the coup (and his role in stopping it) might not have been suppressed for so long.
And now I really have to get going! Later!
Rudy’s non-existent fuse is true. He made a campaign visit to our town. Protesters were, of course, present. One of them was an Amish woman who called out to him across the street that he was an “adulterer”. His face immediately turned purple and he hesitated, as if he were going to cross the street and hit the Amish lady. When it was time to leave the restaurant where he was appearing, he slipped out the back door to avoid hearing the Amish woman state the fact once more.
so guess what?
blair admits even HIS generals pleaded not to attack Iraq
have a read
Loo Hoo. @ 116
thanks, I hadn’t paid attention to the time of the gathering.
demi @ 114
… and may that happiness be wide & deep and last as long as the Sun shines …
… now off to do some work, cheerio !
Loo Hoo. @ 113
Well, the kid had outgrown the really cute childhood stage, which is best for photo-ops, so poor Rudy didn’t have much choice. (/snark)
Later, Petro.
Thanks for the cheese. And, the champagne.
TexBetsy @ 112
If true, there couldn’t be a man more deserving of depression. Of course, he deserves far more than that, like a prison sentence for war crimes.
demi @ 126
*mwaah* … thanks for the delicious muffins !
perris @ 122
Dammit, people! How am I going to take my shower if you keep posting such good stuff? ;-)
All right, now I’m going! Later!
demi @ 49
Brass does turn dark if not kept cleaned. Brasso and old t-shirts do the trick for cleaning but once shiny has to be cleaned periodically.
Four years in military school gave me an intimate knowledge of brass and its properties and how to clean it.
like a prison sentence for war crimes
If we all put this at the top of our xmas list…???
All hail to Old Coastie!
I’ve read in the last few months about Rudy wanting to cancel elections after 9/11. I don’t remember knowing that at the time. That should be the 1st question asked in every interview but I’ve not seen it asked at all. I need to know more about this.
Scary, scary guy.
demi @ 130
I think a pony may be more likely.
Contributing irrelevancies to the thread, I just learned that racecar is a palindrome.
dakine01 @ 129
and of course if it’s a true antique you’d leave the finish as is.
demi @ 131
W, Cheney, Rumsfeld at the top. Then Blair.
This is what the young people in my house put on their list. Of course, it’s bigger than their room, but …
solai @ 133
Was pretty much of a non-event, as the idea gained NO traction.
Dakine,
Polish the brass? Oh my, I’m not that kind of girl. I’m lucky to keep the toilets clean. Ha!
But, thanks for the advice. Many in my next life. :)
Elliott @ 136
Not if it’s a brass bed or something like that. Sometimes it just gets all nasty and green if not kept cleaned.
Phoenix Woman @ 129
I will shower for you then
or shower with you…errr
eCAHNomics @ 139
Yep…but appalling that he publicly floated the possibility.
eCAHNomics @ 139
it’s not whether or not the idea had traction, the scary part is the fact that rudy even proposed it
TexBetsy @ 89
What she said!
Jane (nyc) @ 141
To be fair, he was just proposing postponing it for more “continuity time” with which to address the post 9-11 issues in NYC.
eCAHNomics @ 135
Good to know. The kiddies like this kind of thing.
perris @ 144
Well, I suppose we all greeted it with an eye-roll because nothing Rudy said by then would have surprised us. Had lost our sense of the normal.
TexBetsy,
Saw your kids’ wish link.
Um, is there a hand-held version?
Well, I’ll keep my eyes open at the thrift store. *g*
BobbyG @ 146
Except there was absolutely no need for it other than Rudy’s ego believing NYC could not POSSIBLY get along without him in charge ef’fing everything up.
TexBetsy @ 134
can we prosecute Rudy for anticipatory war crimes… those he will commit if elected? :)
TexBetsy @ 138
And I laughed when my son asked me to buy him a $100 sweatshirt.
11 new stories up, three of which I also posted here.
BobbyG @146
I was there ….but the suggestion is a slippery slope at the very best. I never think Giuliani has any pure motives.
He is perhaps the most chilling political figure of note on the national scene. Can you tell I have developed a strong opinion of him since moving to NY in 1981>
katymine @ 91
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..70_pf.html
TexBetsy @ 112
The only two people who kept me from shouting from the rooftops that Iraq was gonna be a Quagmire like ‘Nam was Blair and Powell.
May there be a special place in Dante’s inferno and may they be ridiculed for the fools they were during their remaining time on Earth. As5h8oles
dakine01 @ 148
Yeah, I agree, but harping on the postponement now would be wasting time better spent pouring Clorox on his other, far more dangerous attributes. That’s all.
Jane (nyc) @ 142
That, and Jeb Bush using the state police for Terri Schiavo’s attempted abduction tells us all we need to know about the spiritual descendants of Smedley Butler’s proposed paymasters.
solai @ 151
They’re drooling more than asking.
Blub@151
Isn’t there a recent movie about that sort of thing?
TexBetsy @ 82,and Petrocelli @ later,
Will do, haven’t been using Facebook a lot, good suggestion, thanks. Got new stuff up, and I have to find my password to get my FB blue thingy lit up.
Be sure to read Rudy’s former lover’s tell-all.
Jane (nyc) @ 152
Agree. He’s a total puke. Worse than Bu’ush, if that is even imaginable.
BobbyG @ 157
Understood. But given the short attention span of the TradMed, it offers an easily understandable shorthand that encapsulates Rudy and his ego with one shot.
They probably have a little box that asks Forgot your password? They’ll email it to you.
(I think.)
“BROWN: Mr. Mayor, as you know better than anyone, and certainly New Yorkers know, but people around the country perhaps do not. This was election day here.
What is the status of the election?
GIULIANI: We cancelled it. The governor and I decided about an hour, and hour and a half ago that it made no sense to have an election today. We needed all of those police officers who were at the election sites. And we need to focus on rescue. So, we’ll find another day for the election. The governor and I made that decision about an hour, an hour and a half ago.”
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..bn.12.html
TexBetsy @ 159
My son was serious. It wasn’t the $100 that was the issue, it’s that it was $100 for a freaking sweatshirt.
We all need to consider the following very seriously. Like Reagan & W, Rudy’s sh*t doesn’t stink.
Everything in this thread leads to that conclusion.
LS @ 165
Rescheduling it made sense. Canceling??
solai @ 167
How are you on buying him $150 sneakers? (Note: I grew up in the era of maybe a couple of pairs of Chucks per year – at most).
Whomever thinks that is going to be very sorry if Rudy is the R candidate.
There are a lot of Americans who truly do care about Family Values. And, I don’t think they would/will put that man in office.
LS @ 164
The salient extract:
I take a back seat to no one in my antipathy toward this asshole, but this dog ain’t gonna hunt. More important stuff to focus on.
eCAHNomics @ 168
Who says Kerik doesn’t stink?
Although, I must say, cheating on my mistress
at government expense sounds awfully tempting.
dakine01 @ 169
We’re big on Marshalls, Ross or DSW for shoes.
demi @ 165
Went that route, it worked, I hope…
Quebecois @ 174
yep
allan_in_upstate @ 173
You mean like Rudy did when he had the emergency center placed in the WTC complex and outfitted with a lot of nice extras so it was a short walk from his office? Although I don’t think he was cheating on his mistress, I think he was cheating on his wife with his mistress.
BobbyG @ 172
The point being that he would be willing to cancel elections as president, should the need in his mind arise; especially with the greater executive powers in place now.
Quebecois,
It worked! You are f’d.
(never too early in the day for that. ha.)
dakine01 @ 177
I’m not saying that he didn’t do despicable stupid things that should isqualify him. I’m saying that despite all that, people love him.
droppin’ in for a quick bit. demi! you still here?
Tried emailing you at your rr address but it’s bouncy bouncy! Yes, my facebook name isn’t real. I don’t trust facebook with my personal info after they dumped my original facebook account which was Peanutbutter Firedoglake. They said it wasn’t a real name after I asked them about some technical issue (mistake).
So those of you using nomedeplumes on facebook, just keep a low profile if your name is obviously not real :-P
demi @ 179
You don’t have to shove my face into it!!!
Hehehe.
TexBetsy @ 174
When the growing has slowed down, another option is the factory stores where you can get good shoes at semi reasonable cost.
I have worn Bass shoes most of my life. If you buy them at the dept stores, it can get pricey but at the factory stores, you pay half to two-thirds the dept store prices. And if properly cared for, the good shoes like Bass can last years and years.
TexBetsy @ 174
I am so shocked at the price of clothes today. I take my granddaughter shopping about every 3 months and am amazed how much it takes to outfit a 12 year old now and the difference when my kids were growing up. Don’t know how parents do it for 3 or 4 children.
LS @ 176
C’mon. The factual point being that he did not “cancel” the election. It got postponed. No one can doubt that Bu’ush also would cancel the upcoming election on a Terrah pretext if he thought he could get away with it.
Twain @ 183
Weird here. The girl (16) will wear hand-me-downs from friends or clothes from the second hand places, no problem. The boy (13) wants name brands and new, but Marshall’s is OK.
dakine01 @ 177
No. I was referring to Kerik cheating on Judith Regan (post 9/11) in an apartment
near Ground Zero reserved for exhausted clean up workers.
Peanutbutter,
I don’t know why my email doesn’t always work…I’ve had that trouble before. Mommybrain and I had the same trouble.
On the name thingy…when we met at Wahoo’s, I had already met you when OldCoastie showed up. By process of illimination, I went up to her and said, so you must be _____? Oh, the look on her face was precious. What? It was funny. Then, we did the whole You are OldCoastie?
eCAHNomics @ 180
I know. That’s why one of those little tasks I have set for myself is to inform people of the Rudy that I knew of when I was working in Manhattan and point out all the stuff where he isn’t a very nice or law abiding person.
BobbyG, is that the election that is being referred to, the election held on Sept.11? I thought he then wanted to postpone the replacement election.
BobbyG @ 185
That is my point. I agree with you. A lot of things have changed since 9/11, and I believe Giuliani would take advantage of any existing directives put in place by Busharraf in order to consolidate even more power. I think his thinking now is much worse than it was at that time. He is now a firm neocon.
solai @ 188
Yes, and yes.
BobbyG @ 146
but, that’s what they ALL say.
allan_in_upstate @ 187
I know you were but it was the same difference. Both were cheating on their wives in facilities furnished by the government for other purposes. Kerik learned his lessons from his mentor and former BFF is all.
TexBetsy @ 186
We shop Old Navy (good bargains), Penneys, and, of course, we have to hit Wet Seal. She hasn’t quite lost the “baby fat” around the middle yet and it’s a nightmare to fit her.
TexB
yeah, but the Girl is a really smart cookie! Not only does she know her politics, but seems to have her $$ priorities in check. She babysits, doesn’t she? See, she’s got the perspective.
(and, may I say, you are doing a fab job with her!)
My son’s dad takes him to Old Navy for the more casual clothes. I tend to handle the dressier stuff.
Funniest thing is how HIS clothes keep needing to be bigger and HER clothes seem to need to be smaller.
dakine01 @ 189
I guess the point of my remark was to point out what an uphill battle it will be to convince people about the real Rudy. Perhaps someone should start a website. Or an email campaign. What we all did with the WaPo puff piece on Judy this morning must be done over & over again, for example. (Until they eliminate comments.)
LS @ 189
You and I agree on this point. All I’m cautioning is that any harping on an incorrect assertion that “Rudy Tried To Cancel The Election” is gonna be counterproductive. Again, better to be raining down the Clorox on his other more dangerous liabilities.
Thanks Demi. Yes, she baby-sits some. Wants a “real job” this summer.
TexBetsy @ 197
I’m looking forward to that stage. Her mother wore a size 0 when she was 16.
That was very hard to find back then, not so much now.
I missed this one yesterday:
GOP Filibuster Stalls Farm Bill
from t r u t h o u t
The Associated Press says, “A wide-ranging rewrite of the farm bill fell victim Friday to a Republican filibuster in the Senate, threatening enactment of new and expanded subsidies promised to farmers by lawmakers seeking re-election next year.”
Speaking of girls, I’m going to take off now to go to the post office.
Since my daughter is coming here for xmas, she won’t be buying a tree for her place, so I bought her a xmas tree music box. Gonna go and mail it to her now.
See y’all later.
Quebecois @ 182
When I click on your “F” it is taking me to my facebook page. When you set things up, did you grab the “profile” information with the long number at the end or did you get the info that said “layout.” Let me know and I can copy some explicit instructions that have worked for others for you.
OT: Justice in Saudi Arabia.
allan_in_upstate @ 205
Our BFF.
BobbyG @ 199
Actually, I posted the link, because someone up thread was looking for information on the rumor that he had canceled elections, and I didn’t add a comment about it until you responded to my comment with the link in it…and I basically agree with your response(s).
Thanks Dakine, I’ll look into it, might get back to you on that.
Twain @ 200
You misunderstand me. She is not getting thinner. Only her clothes are getting skimpier.
allan_in_upstate @ 162
Gee, why isn’t her name a household word, the way Gennifer Flowers‘ was when she was making her bogus statements about an affair that she claims started in 1979-80 a hotel that wouldn’t be built for another two to three years?
On top of all the really good reasons to oppose Hillary Clinton (eg, her refusal to renounce her AUMF vote and then, proving she learned NOTHING from that mistake, voting for Kyl-Lieberman), here’s a key one:
Should Ghouliani get the GOP nod, Hillary will be constrained from clubbing him repeatedly around the head and neck over Bernard Kerik, because she herself cheered Kerik’s nomination for DHS head. The best she’ll be able to do regarding Kerik is another lame “if I knew then what I know now” song.
We need a nominee who (among many more important things, like not being a neocon stooge) will be in a position to “Kerik” Rudy relentlessly and with unbridled ferocity.
Sorry for the distraction folks. Is this better? Thanks for all your patience.
Throwing out old NYTs, and there’s Rudy and Pat Robertson on the front of the Nov. 8 paper. What reason could Robertson have for backing Rudy other than thinking that with Rudy there would be a near-certainty of war against Iran and … well, I guess Rudy said it himself: this is his chance to rid the world of the third great threat, Islam-o-fascism.
We are looking right at white men aching to wage war.
Phoenix Woman @ 210
Actually, “her” name is a household word – if your household is an Albany lobbying firm.
If you want to secure that cement contract for Vinny, Alfonse D’Amato is the go-to guy.
Quebecois @ 211
Worked fine for me the first tme. Still fine.
Some brain bleach with which to attentuate the enervation owing to too much Rude E discourse.
TexBetsy @ 209
OOPS – missed that. :)
Phoenix Woman @ 210
Liberal media bias maybe. /snark
TexBetsy @ 215
Unfortunately, it still takes me to my news feed page.
dakine01 @ 218
Perhaps because he is not on your friend list?
TexBetsy @ 220
Then I think it would take me to the request friend bit. Or at least that’s how it has worked wiht others.
ralphbon @ 211
Good point.
Interesting NYT article about how U.S. of A. is helping Pakistan secure da bomb. Hope it’s a better program than we have here, where they seem to fly across the country on little angel wings.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11…..d=2&hp
Howie has a new thread upstairs.
ralphbon @ 211
Holy buckets — you’re right:
Ooooops!
Phoenix Woman @ 225
oops is right.
as in ‘oops silly me slipped on the floor I just sprayed with a quickly freezing substance commonly known as b.s.”
fieldmarshall hillary might even ‘oops’ up in iran.
wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
thank god thank god thank god. can’t we all just say thank god for this?
Israel’s economic blockade stops Gaza’s strawberry-farmers selling their crop : The 8,000 families employed in Gaza’s production of strawberries, cherry tomatoes and carnations, the bumper crop of which has already started to be destroyed instead of being sent to the Dutch auction houses for which it was planted, will lose their modest income
Well, as I like to think, the Reich-wingers might be a little uncomfortable voting for Rudy, so perhaps we could encourage them to sing this song before they go and vote for him next November.
Who knows? Perhaps some of them will stay home rather than vote for Herr Guliani.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 228
Somewhere along the line, “Never Again” devolved to merely “Never Us Again.”
Sandman @ 22
He’s there primarily to challenge for New York if Hillary gets the Dem nomination. It’s a favorite Rovian/Bushie tactic to try and take their opponent’s home state. They got Tennessee vs. Gore and just about went out of their minds with joy. Crazy guys.
eCAHNomics @ 87
Sounds just like McCain or Romney, or anybody trying to get the Wingnut brigade’s vote.