Zed!!

2

TRex!!!

And Smgumby takes the round.

Now go tell the others we’re up here.

SPEW

ROFL!

Late Late Nite! TRex rawks!

It’s hard trying to catch up with FDL and Jezebel..(TRex’s second favorite site)

hahahaha !!!

Persi, click here for the story about the Santas told to stop HO HO HO’ing.

10?

DO NOT WANT.

So, Suzanne, what did you think of Cassie’s comment earlier ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Good evening morning from North Texas. What have I missed?

Poor Winston. Apparently if left unbathed for too long, he turns into quite the stinky kitty.

All my cats have been virtually odorless. The top of Gussy’s head smells particularly nice. So, thankfully, I’ve never had to bathe cats very often.

I always thought cats were self-bathing machines.

Hi everyone… I’m back home…

hi katy and airport cat

I saw a sign on a box of kittens for sale a few years ago that said, “SELF CLEANING PETS FREE TO GOOD HOME”.

TRex @ 19

I saw a sign on a box of kittens for sale a few years ago that said, “SELF CLEANING PETS FREE TO GOOD HOME”.

Didja pick any up?

TexBetsy @ 16

I always thought cats were self-bathing machines.

They need some help. The shower works pretty well.

Steve-AR @ 21

TexBetsy @ 16

I always thought cats were self-bathing machines.

They need some help. The shower works pretty well.

Hope the shower works better on cats than on teenage boys.

!!!!!! How’s it going CTuttle?!!!!!

I thought the cat was going to bite him!

TexBetsy @ 13

So, Suzanne, what did you think of Cassie’s comment earlier ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

sorry, tex, was on the phone with my baby girl.. which comment?

Loo Hoo. @ 23

!!!!!! How’s it going CTuttle?!!!!!

… tee hee hee …

Didja pick any up?

Nah, no Siamese.

And besides, the cats-to-people ratio in this house is already 2 to 1. Mustn’t give them too much of an upper hand. You never know when they will revolt.

TexBetsy @ 16

I always thought cats were self-bathing machines.

Only if they have not been sprayed by skunks! Both our kitties were sprayed one Sunday morning, and we had to find every tomato product on the shelf. We were COVERED with tomato juice, sauce, ketchup, etc. and it was hilarious. Times 2 kitties.

my fun experience with bathing a cat was when mine went down the chimney of the empty house next door.[years ago]

She went missing, gone for a week, had all the neighborhood kids looking for her and they saw her in the window one day of the foreclosed house.

Had the management company bail my baby out but I think there were at least 5 or 6 baths to remove all the soot on her from her playing Santa Cat.

Loo Hoo. @ 23

!!!!!! How’s it going CTuttle?!!!!!

Pretty good so far with my Warriors leading, we’ve crossed threads a few times, today… *g*

katymine @ 17

Hi everyone… I’m back home…

Hi Katymine. Are you feeling well after your traveling? You are amazing!

This may be a bit off topic, but if you had a video of someone waterboarding a dog, especially an obviously domesticated dog, wouldn’t that just end the whole discussion about waterboarding? I think a lot of people in this country relate to dogs (especially theirs) more than people in other countries.
Sounds sick, but I think it is not too far off the mark.

welcome home, katymine

Pete & Sun @ 32

This may be a bit off topic, but if you had a video of someone waterboarding a dog, especially an obviously domesticated dog, wouldn’t that just end the whole discussion about waterboarding? I think a lot of people in this country relate to dogs (especially theirs) more than people in other countries.
Sounds sick, but I think it is not too far off the mark.

would certainly get the person who did it arrested on animal cruelty charges.

TRex @ 27

Didja pick any up?

Nah, no Siamese.

And besides, the cats-to-people ratio in this house is already 2 to 1. Mustn’t give them too much of an upper hand. You never know when they will revolt.

Only 2:1? Even when my kids are here, our ratio is higher than that.

TexBetsy @ 10

Persi, click here for the story about the Santas told to stop HO HO HO’ing.

Seems odd to me, especially coming from Agence France Presse, not local media. Let me do some research and see what I can find.

katymine @ 29

my fun experience with bathing a cat was when mine went down the chimney of the empty house next door.[years ago]

She went missing, gone for a week, had all the neighborhood kids looking for her and they saw her in the window one day of the foreclosed house.

Had the management company bail my baby out but I think there were at least 5 or 6 baths to remove all the soot on her from her playing Santa Cat.

the one time i felt a need to bathe a cat was when mine fell into wet cement. the cat did not know she was going to like dried cement less than the bath. neither of us thought we were going to survive that bath.

hope y’all still have your barf bags handy ….

Alberto Gonzales’ Advice For Mukasey: “Follow The Law. That Was My Lodestar.”
from Huff Po by The Huffington Post News Editors

Yesterday, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales spoke at the Corpus Christi Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, giving his views on “immigration, education and public service.” The event drew approximately 1,000 attendees, as well as a few protestors who greeted Gonzales outside the venue.

He dodged questions about waterboarding by local station KIII-TV, but did give some words of advice for his successor, Michael Mukasey:

To do the right thing. And I have every confidence that Mike Mukasey will do the right thing. Always do the right thing. Follow the law. That was always my lodestar, my guiding principle, and I’m sure that will guide General Mukasey.

TexBetsy @ 10

Persi, click here for the story about the Santas told to stop HO HO HO’ing.

‘It’s the moooost wonderful time of the yeearrrr…’

;>)

I saw the surgeon today….. return to work on 11/26… Yea…. get another 10 days of recovery. AND no chemotherapy….none…. just monitoring and paying lots of bills…and CT scans every few months and pay more bills :(

Pete & Sun @ 32

This may be a bit off topic, but if you had a video of someone waterboarding a dog, especially an obviously domesticated dog, wouldn’t that just end the whole discussion about waterboarding? I think a lot of people in this country relate to dogs (especially theirs) more than people in other countries.
Sounds sick, but I think it is not too far off the mark.

I cant stop thinking about Judith’s Magic Stapler.

just a quick meow-by, but I must, eef I may, offer a few suggestions.

Primero, eet seems as eef there ees a leetle too much water een the tub, eh?

Also, the bather might try turning down the amount of water pouring from the faucet, some gatos do no like that.

Tercero, the bather might try getting down een the tub weeth the poor unfortunate gato, thees sends the message that the bath ees sometheeng for the two of joo to get through together, rather than sometheeng joo are inflicting like punishment.

Buena sera, I do no claim to be een any wise an expert.

Adios, perritos del fuego.

(Oh, and be nice to each other, I have seen much spontaneous flamewarring thees evening, as eef the primary season has turned la blogosfera eento so much dry tinder.)

so.

excellent news katymine

Had the management company bail my baby out but I think there were at least 5 or 6 baths to remove all the soot on her from her playing Santa Cat.

Awwwwwwwww. Poor baby.

I bet it was good to get her home.

We just finished a special session of our state legislature that sought to replace the corruption-tainted oil extraction fees charged big oil here. The big oil faction was in total disarray, and were handed their biggest defeat in state history by our maverick Republican governor, Sarah Palin. She showed more balls throughout than I’ve seen from most politicians in a long, long time.

TexBetsy @ 38

hope y’all still have your barf bags handy ….

Alberto Gonzales’ Advice For Mukasey: “Follow The Law. That Was My Lodestar.”
from Huff Po by The Huffington Post News Editors

Yesterday, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales spoke at the Corpus Christi Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, giving his views on “immigration, education and public service.” The event drew approximately 1,000 attendees, as well as a few protestors who greeted Gonzales outside the venue.

He dodged questions about waterboarding by local station KIII-TV, but did give some words of advice for his successor, Michael Mukasey:

To do the right thing. And I have every confidence that Mike Mukasey will do the right thing. Always do the right thing. Follow the law. That was always my lodestar, my guiding principle, and I’m sure that will guide General Mukasey.

I was rolling in my seat when I read that earlier…

!El Gato Negro! @ 42

just a quick meow-by, but I must, eef I may, offer a few suggestions.

Primero, eet seems as eef there ees a leetle too much water een the tub, eh?

Also, the bather might try turning down the amount of water pouring from the faucet, some gatos do no like that.

Tercero, the bather might try getting down een the tub weeth the poor unfortunate gato, thees sends the message that the bath ees sometheeng for the two of joo to get through together, rather than sometheeng joo are inflicting like punishment.

Buena sera, I do no claim to be een any wise an expert.

Adios, perritos del fuego.

(Oh, and be nice to each other, I have seen much spontaneous flamewarring thees evening, as eef the primary season has turned la blogosfera eento so much dry tinder.)

so.

waving special gatonip under el gato’s nose in an attempt to entice him to stay – we are flameless here at the lake (and won’t make you get wet if you dont wanna)

Suzanne @ 34

Pete & Sun @ 32

This may be a bit off topic, but if you had a video of someone waterboarding a dog, especially an obviously domesticated dog, wouldn’t that just end the whole discussion about waterboarding? I think a lot of people in this country relate to dogs (especially theirs) more than people in other countries.
Sounds sick, but I think it is not too far off the mark.

would certainly get the person who did it arrested on animal cruelty charges.

Yes. But the point hits home. Americans may-at this ugly time in our history-think more of their pets than they do of human beings. Ugly and probably true. Good call, Pete and Sun.

TRex @ 19

I saw a sign on a box of kittens for sale a few years ago that said, “SELF CLEANING PETS FREE TO GOOD HOME”.

I don’t know about Winston but, sometimes older cats get less flexible and aren’t able to clean themselves all over, so they need a bit of help. The only time I ever bathed a cat was Fido the White Cat. He liked to sleep in the ashes of the fire. He also liked to stand at the end of the bath when I showered. One day, both of these events coincided. I had a sooty white kitty and lots of running water, what could I lose? The answer my friends, was blood, a little flesh and, for a short time, the love of my cat. Never again.

TexBetsy @ 22

Steve-AR @ 21

They need some help. The shower works pretty well.

Hope the shower works better on cats than on teenage boys.

Old Spice body wash and shampoo are great for stinky teens, all in one bottle.

TRex @ 44

Had the management company bail my baby out but I think there were at least 5 or 6 baths to remove all the soot on her from her playing Santa Cat.

Awwwwwwwww. Poor baby.

I bet it was good to get her home.

The kicker is that she went down the chimney the very next day after all the water sports…. and looked like I had hiked 5 miles through blackberry brambles….

THEN the management company put a board over the chimney

Loo Hoo. @ 48

Suzanne @ 34

would certainly get the person who did it arrested on animal cruelty charges.

Yes. But the point hits home. Americans may-at this ugly time in our history-think more of their pets than they do of human beings. Ugly and probably true. Good call, Pete and Sun.

the point is valid but the act is criminal – which is the point but i sure would not encourage anyone trying it

¡¡¡El Gato Negro!!!

There weell be no flame-warring at thee Lake tonight.

We haff the best moderators in the beezness.

TexBetsy @ 38

That was always my lodestar

Lodestar: something that serves as a guide or on which the attention is fixed.

Oh, I get it

;>)

Suzanne, I am sore tempted, but my intertubes have been clogged weeth the hairballs all week, and I theenk that tonight I shall quit while I am ahead.

(frequent bluscreens of death lead to much tearing out of fur)

I am grateful for the offer.

TRex @ 53

¡¡¡El Gato Negro!!!

There weell be no flame-warring at thee Lake tonight.

We haff the best moderators in the beezness.

rawr meow rawwwr hiss hiss

This little video proves why gay and lesbian people should be allowed to adopt. Anyone that patient and loving can care for children as well or better than the rest of us. I love my calico cats, but I do not think I have ever been that gentle brushing or bathing the little stinkers.

Margot @ 50

TexBetsy @ 22

Hope the shower works better on cats than on teenage boys.

Old Spice body wash and shampoo are great for stinky teens, all in one bottle.

Does that smell better than Axe?

darkblack @ 54

TexBetsy @ 38

That was always my lodestar

Lodestar: something that serves as a guide or on which the attention is fixed.

Oh, I get it

;>)

very well done db

no need to lose any fur el gato – i’ll lock it back up in the special lockbox for when you can visit longer.

Sr. Reyes, good to see joo, too.

Eef joo want a small taste of what I mean, go check our David Neiwert’s latest post, and http://www.dneiwert.blogspot.com/.

Adios, mi amigos

darkblack @ 54

TexBetsy @ 38

That was always my lodestar

Lodestar: something that serves as a guide or on which the attention is fixed.

Oh, I get it

;>)

No, no, you have him gazing at the wrong end!!!

Does that smell better than Axe?

Durians smell better than Axe™.

And it’s against the law to bring a Durian on a train.

greenwarrior @ 59

very well done db

‘Cooperative subjects’, gw…Ta.

:)

persiflage @ 49

TRex @ 19

I saw a sign on a box of kittens for sale a few years ago that said, “SELF CLEANING PETS FREE TO GOOD HOME”.

I don’t know about Winston but, sometimes older cats get less flexible and aren’t able to clean themselves all over, so they need a bit of help. The only time I ever bathed a cat was Fido the White Cat. He liked to sleep in the ashes of the fire. He also liked to stand at the end of the bath when I showered. One day, both of these events coincided. I had a sooty white kitty and lots of running water, what could I lose? The answer my friends, was blood, a little flesh and, for a short time, the love of my cat. Never again.

Jeans, long sleeve shirt and ear plugs.

NO DURIANS!!!

Jeans, long sleeve shirt and ear plugs.

Steel gauntlets, mercurochrome, fifth of whiskey.

Steve-AR @ 65

persiflage @ 49

I don’t know about Winston but, sometimes older cats get less flexible and aren’t able to clean themselves all over, so they need a bit of help. The only time I ever bathed a cat was Fido the White Cat. He liked to sleep in the ashes of the fire. He also liked to stand at the end of the bath when I showered. One day, both of these events coincided. I had a sooty white kitty and lots of running water, what could I lose? The answer my friends, was blood, a little flesh and, for a short time, the love of my cat. Never again.

Jeans, long sleeve shirt and ear plugs.

Well I know that NOW, it was just one of those impulsive things that seemed like a good idea at the time. Like many not-thought-through things, it was a far from a good idea as I could get.

TRex @ 67

Jeans, long sleeve shirt and ear plugs.

Steel gauntlets, mercurochrome, fifth of whiskey.

no cats here

TRex @ 66

NO DURIANS!!!

no fine?

TRex @ 66

NO DURIANS!!!

Does that include YouTubes of Durian Durian?

TRex @ 67

Jeans, long sleeve shirt and ear plugs.

Steel gauntlets, mercurochrome, fifth of whiskey.

… are we still talking about the cats ?!! *g*

Wallace cautions that “the smell of the ripe fruit is certainly at first disagreeable”; more recent descriptions by westerners can be more graphic. Travel and food writer Richard Sterling says:
“ … its odor is best described as pig-shit, turpentine and onions, garnished with a gym sock. It can be smelled from yards away. Despite its great local popularity, the raw fruit is forbidden from some establishments such as hotels, subways and airports, including public transportation in Southeast Asia.[17]

Suzanne @ 70

TRex @ 66

NO DURIANS!!!

no fine?

I think it warrants the death sentence.

I mean, it is Singapore after all.

TexBetsy @ 69

TRex @ 67

Steel gauntlets, mercurochrome, fifth of whiskey.

no cats here

Would you like some?

TRex @ 75

I mean, it is Singapore after all.

isn’t that where they spank ya (ok, cane ya) for littering?

Why this sudden anti-durian outburst? Did a Durian break your heart? Your sense of smell?

Airport Cat @ 76

TexBetsy @ 69

no cats here

Would you like some?

no thanks

Just like the Aussie that was hanged for “pot”. At least the very experienced hangman came out of retirement just for him.

TRex @ 73

Wallace cautions that “the smell of the ripe fruit is certainly at first disagreeable”; more recent descriptions by westerners can be more graphic. Travel and food writer Richard Sterling says:
“ … its odor is best described as pig-shit, turpentine and onions, garnished with a gym sock. It can be smelled from yards away. Despite its great local popularity, the raw fruit is forbidden from some establishments such as hotels, subways and airports, including public transportation in Southeast Asia.[17]

this reminds me of lutefisk somehow …

persiflage @ 78

Why this sudden anti-durian outburst? Did a Durian break your heart? Your sense of smell?

No, they are just one of those things that I find inherently comic. God apparently made the fruit of the Durian SO delicious that he had to hide it in the stinkiest possible thing in the world so that we all wouldn’t give up everything in our lives to sit and eat Durian all the time.

this reminds me of lutefisk somehow …

Ah!! lye soaked fish.

TRex @ 66

NO DURIANS!!!

But, conductor sir, there is no fine for bringing this durian on the train, sir.

Suzanne @ 77

TRex @ 75

I mean, it is Singapore after all.

isn’t that where they spank ya (ok, cane ya) for littering?

Chewing gum is banned and if a male tourist’s hair extends below his collar, he gets a “free” haircut … a very successful Police State …

TeddySanFran @ 84

TRex @ 66

NO DURIANS!!!

But, conductor sir, there is no fine for bringing this durian on the train, sir.

Let me know how that works for ya Teddy.

Then there is a rich glutinous smoothness in the pulp which nothing else possesses, but which adds to its delicacy. It is neither acid nor sweet nor juicy; yet it wants neither of these qualities, for it is in itself perfect. It produces no nausea or other bad effect, and the more you eat of it the less you feel inclined to stop. In fact, to eat Durians is a new sensation worth a voyage to the East to experience. … as producing a food of the most exquisite flavour it is unsurpassed

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 81

TRex @ 73

this reminds me of lutefisk somehow …

heh, here’s a quote i lifted from wiki for lutefisk

Quote from Garrison Keillor’s book Lake Wobegon Days:
“Every Advent we entered the purgatory of lutefisk, a repulsive gelatinous fishlike dish that tasted of soap and gave off an odor that would gag a goat. We did this in honor of Norwegian ancestors, much as if survivors of a famine might celebrate their deliverance by feasting on elm bark. I always felt the cold creeps as Advent approached, knowing that this dread delicacy would be put before me and I’d be told, “Just have a little.” Eating a little was like vomiting a little, just as bad as a lot.”

I am so glad Wilson did not extract the revenge I thought he was going to. I can just imagine the guy, wearing bloody shorts, showing up at the er – trying to explain to the doc that he was trying to wash his pussy…cat

katymine @ 40

I saw the surgeon today….. return to work on 11/26… Yea…. get another 10 days of recovery. AND no chemotherapy….none…. just monitoring and paying lots of bills…and CT scans every few months and pay more bills :(

Excellent news! …….. all but the bill part;-)

Oh that is the fruit that my kids used to beg for when we went to the asian market… they loved these wafer cookies that had that as the cream filling… woohoo did they stink…..

I would buy it and the kids would have to eat it outside….. PU

TRex @ 87

Then there is a rich glutinous smoothness in the pulp which nothing else possesses, but which adds to its delicacy. It is neither acid nor sweet nor juicy; yet it wants neither of these qualities, for it is in itself perfect. It produces no nausea or other bad effect, and the more you eat of it the less you feel inclined to stop. In fact, to eat Durians is a new sensation worth a voyage to the East to experience. … as producing a food of the most exquisite flavour it is unsurpassed

Hmmm, I thought I’ve had every fruit on the planet but this does not seem familiar …

Suzanne @ 77

TRex @ 75

I mean, it is Singapore after all.

isn’t that where they spank ya (ok, cane ya) for littering?

I was in Singapore maybe 6 years ago and it was terrifyingly clean. 2 years ago, not so much. I actually saw lots of cigarette butts in flower beds, which just wouldn’t have happened a few years before. I think enforcing all those laws (did you know it’s illegal not to flush a public toilet?) costs more than the government can afford.

I’m calling it an early one, tonite! I bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!! *g*

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 88

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 81

this reminds me of lutefisk somehow …

heh, here’s a quote i lifted from wiki for lutefisk

Quote from Garrison Keillor’s book Lake Wobegon Days:
“Every Advent we entered the purgatory of lutefisk, a repulsive gelatinous fishlike dish that tasted of soap and gave off an odor that would gag a goat. We did this in honor of Norwegian ancestors, much as if survivors of a famine might celebrate their deliverance by feasting on elm bark. I always felt the cold creeps as Advent approached, knowing that this dread delicacy would be put before me and I’d be told, “Just have a little.” Eating a little was like vomiting a little, just as bad as a lot.”

… all these great quotes are making me feel guilty … I’ll get back to writing my book, which will one day find its way on wikipedia …

G’ nite all !

Suzanne @ 89

I am so glad Wilson did not extract the revenge I thought he was going to. I can just imagine the guy, wearing bloody shorts, showing up at the er – trying to explain to the doc that he was trying to wash his pussy…cat

LOL
I had the same thought.;)

I’ve never tried it or even been offered durian, and I may avoid it. The people who love it get kind of a scary look in their eyes when they talk about it.

Pakistan Army Kills Up to 40 Militants in Troubled Northwest; 4 Soldiers Die in Fighting

http://www.rawstory.com/news/m…..72007.html

I wish I could really give a rip about cats. Not that I want to see any abused or anything.

Petrocelli @ 95

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 88

heh, here’s a quote i lifted from wiki for lutefisk

Quote from Garrison Keillor’s book Lake Wobegon Days:
“Every Advent we entered the purgatory of lutefisk, a repulsive gelatinous fishlike dish that tasted of soap and gave off an odor that would gag a goat. We did this in honor of Norwegian ancestors, much as if survivors of a famine might celebrate their deliverance by feasting on elm bark. I always felt the cold creeps as Advent approached, knowing that this dread delicacy would be put before me and I’d be told, “Just have a little.” Eating a little was like vomiting a little, just as bad as a lot.”

… all these great quotes are making me feel guilty … I’ll get back to writing my book, which will one day find its way on wikipedia …

G’ nite all !

g’night Petro!

Hey, all. I’m quite distracted by season three of dr who. Yay!

dang, did i kill the thread?

Suzanne @ 102

dang, did i kill the thread?

gun go off accidentally?

TexBetsy @ 103

Suzanne @ 102

dang, did i kill the thread?

gun go off accidentally?

should have the safeties on…

So how do you guys get used to the time change stuff anyway?

Since AZ does not do daylight savings and the only fun is trying to figure out what time it is in the rest of the world half of the year and what time did they change the shows on the TeeVee…. NOW, in two weeks I gained an hour but then lost it last night when I flew home…..

I’m heading to bed especially since Miss Dog is asleep in her own bed …. sneaky of me to wait until she goes to bed first now isn’t it?
Shhhhh don’t wake her up

Durian is a new animal to me, too. The only fruit from an Asian market I can vouch for, firsthand, is the lychee nut.

More like a strawberry or grape than a nut, it’s sweet but mildly citrus and has a semi-gelatinous texture that’s hard to describe but habit-forming.

Loo Hoo. @ 99

I wish I could really give a rip about cats. Not that I want to see any abused or anything.

I have a friend who was once like you. Then a cat chose him. She ran away from home to hang out with him and clearly adored him. She would go home at night and then show up again the next morning, hanging on the screen door and calling to him to let her in.

When her owners moved, they bequeathed her to him. “She’s clearly much happier with you.”

They’re still living happily ever after. How can you deny a creature who is clearly in love with you?

TRex @ 67

Jeans, long sleeve shirt and ear plugs.

Steel gauntlets, mercurochrome, fifth of whiskey.

No way here, evah! My lad earned a big red caution!! sticker on his file at the vets. I am soooo proud.

I apologize to anyone offended. (off to do penance in the corner)

TexBetsy @ 103

Suzanne @ 102

dang, did i kill the thread?

gun go off accidentally?

No loaded firearms in the house!!!!!

707 Post TRex!

I found some sick puppy art posted by markfromireland in the gorillasguides humor section. Both the entire humor and photo sections are well worth looking through.

TRex @ 82

persiflage @ 78

Why this sudden anti-durian outburst? Did a Durian break your heart? Your sense of smell?

No, they are just one of those things that I find inherently comic. God apparently made the fruit of the Durian SO delicious that he had to hide it in the stinkiest possible thing in the world so that we all wouldn’t give up everything in our lives to sit and eat Durian all the time.

I see your point. I think God is more Catholic than that. Sure, you can have the yummy durian but you’re going to have to suffer for it. Here! Sniff this!

I think durian smells like vomit. I’ve never tasted it.

They may investigate the problems with the US embassy in Iraq.

peanutbutter @ 101

Hey, all. I’m quite distracted by season three of dr who. Yay!

New Dr Who or old Dr Who?

persiflage @ 114

peanutbutter @ 101

Hey, all. I’m quite distracted by season three of dr who. Yay!

New Dr Who or old Dr Who?

Third season with David Tennet, just came out in DVD. WOOT

Suzanne @ 109

I apologize to anyone offended. (off to do penance in the corner)

err, what did i miss? (looks around in bewilderment) dang. i hate missing a chance to take offence.

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 116

Suzanne @ 109

I apologize to anyone offended. (off to do penance in the corner)

err, what did i miss? (looks around in bewilderment) dang. i hate missing a chance to take offence.

confuzzled along with you…

i thought my er comment offended, pb and ndfg

peanutbutter @ 115

persiflage @ 114

New Dr Who or old Dr Who?

Third season with David Tennet, just came out in DVD. WOOT

I’m really enjoying the new Dr Who. As an old Whooie, my loyalty to Tom Baker as the Best Doctor is crumbling.

peanutbutter @ 117

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 116

err, what did i miss? (looks around in bewilderment) dang. i hate missing a chance to take offence.

confuzzled along with you…

AND I can’t blame it on drugs anymore….. dang

katymine @ 105

So how do you guys get used to the time change stuff anyway?

Since AZ does not do daylight savings and the only fun is trying to figure out what time it is in the rest of the world half of the year and what time did they change the shows on the TeeVee…. NOW, in two weeks I gained an hour but then lost it last night when I flew home…..

I’m heading to bed especially since Miss Dog is asleep in her own bed …. sneaky of me to wait until she goes to bed first now isn’t it?
Shhhhh don’t wake her up

The animals don’t change. We all just have to adjust!

Suzanne @ 118

i thought my er comment offended, pb and ndfg

This is a case of Moderator hypersensitivity if you ask me.

Is anyone offended in here?

*crickets*

See?

persiflage @ 119

peanutbutter @ 115

Third season with David Tennet, just came out in DVD. WOOT

I’m really enjoying the new Dr Who. As an old Whooie, my loyalty to Tom Baker as the Best Doctor is crumbling.

Oh, total noob here. “My” doctor is Eccleston, though I’m really enjoying this season with Tennet.

Suzanne @ 118

i thought my er comment offended, pb and ndfg

I think you really have to work harder if you want to offend us. Perhaps Thers can pass on some wingnut-hardened tips for offending.

TRex @ 122

Suzanne @ 118

i thought my er comment offended, pb and ndfg

This is a case of Moderator hypersensitivity if you ask me.

Is anyone offended in here?

*crickets*

See?

ok

neverminding

TexBetsy @ 113

They may investigate the problems with the US embassy in Iraq.

This was useful:

Austin restaurant is first in Texas to try secure payment system

link

They were using it in San Francisco and I didn’t know why.

Suzanne @ 34

Pete & Sun @ 32

This may be a bit off topic, but if you had a video of someone waterboarding a dog, especially an obviously domesticated dog, wouldn’t that just end the whole discussion about waterboarding? I think a lot of people in this country relate to dogs (especially theirs) more than people in other countries.
Sounds sick, but I think it is not too far off the mark.

would certainly get the person who did it arrested on animal cruelty charges.

And ironically, it would probably be the only waterboarding related conviction any of us would see.

maybe we just need more cake

Oh, total noob here. “My” doctor is Eccleston

Hear, hear!!

I was so disappointed that he only lasted a season. He made me just melt.

peanutbutter @ 123

persiflage @ 119

I’m really enjoying the new Dr Who. As an old Whooie, my loyalty to Tom Baker as the Best Doctor is crumbling.

Oh, total noob here. “My” doctor is Eccleston, though I’m really enjoying this season with Tennet.

Eccleston was great. I’d only ever seen him in roles where he was sensible, hard-working and kinda normal. His Dr Who was a revelation. I really like how David Tennant plays him – a hypersmart, cheeky, whirlwind but when he slows down, there’s loneliness and sadness so real it hurts.

Smgumby @ 127

Suzanne @ 34

would certainly get the person who did it arrested on animal cruelty charges.

And ironically, it would probably be the only waterboarding related conviction any of us would see.

Oh that’s harsh…and probably true.

Suzanne @ 89

I am so glad Wilson did not extract the revenge I thought he was going to. I can just imagine the guy, wearing bloody shorts, showing up at the er – trying to explain to the doc that he was trying to wash his pussy…cat

d’oh! nope, i had the same kinda thoughts, but not as witty as yours. Your comment reminded me of a favorite family story about newdealfarm neighbors. The neighbor liked his whiskey, he & the hired man had a few too many and decided it would be a good idea to castrate the cat. They put on their heavy leather choppers, got the tin-snips … the cat got away intact and unharmed but neighbor and hired man sobered up in a hurry when their choppers were shredded.
‘Course it was the way my dad told it that was so darn funny.

TRex @ 129

Oh, total noob here. “My” doctor is Eccleston

Hear, hear!!

I was so disappointed that he only lasted a season. He made me just melt.

:-)
I just saw The Shakespeare Code. I laughed out loud when he said Oooohhhh! 57 academics just punched the air!”

Alright, gang. Off to bed.

Everybody have a great weekend.

Good night!

sleep well T

g’nite trex. sleep well and give juan carlos lovies.

Nite, TRex! have a painless & healing sleep.

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 132

Suzanne @ 89

I am so glad Wilson did not extract the revenge I thought he was going to. I can just imagine the guy, wearing bloody shorts, showing up at the er – trying to explain to the doc that he was trying to wash his pussy…cat

d’oh! nope, i had the same kinda thoughts, but not as witty as yours. Your comment reminded me of a favorite family story about newdealfarm neighbors. The neighbor liked his whiskey, he & the hired man had a few too many and decided it would be a good idea to castrate the cat. They put on their heavy leather choppers, got the tin-snips … the cat got away intact and unharmed but neighbor and hired man sobered up in a hurry when their choppers were shredded.
‘Course it was the way my dad told it that was so darn funny.

i displaced token laughing at that ndfg – i can just imagine that. oh my!

I must away. It’s a rare Saturday when Mr Persi and I are not only in the same town but he isn’t working. I’ll go and remind myself what he looks like. Everyone going to Suzanne’s tomorrow, have a wonderful time and we expect a full report!

persiflage @ 124

Suzanne @ 118

i thought my er comment offended, pb and ndfg

I think you really have to work harder if you want to offend us. Perhaps Thers can pass on some wingnut-hardened tips for offending.

no offendis here, just offriendis.

nite all. Have a wonderful time at the cottage you lucky meet-up pups!

OT..Hillary’s eye shadow gets good reviews at Jezebel.com

link

TRex @ 134

Alright, gang. Off to bed.

Everybody have a great weekend.

Good night!

Good night!

enjoy persi – will be here for late nite but am expecting i will be a wee bit late from cleaning up and such

sleep well persi

cali-pups, help suzanne with the clean-up please!

TRex @ 107

Loo Hoo. @ 99

I wish I could really give a rip about cats. Not that I want to see any abused or anything.

I have a friend who was once like you. Then a cat chose him. She ran away from home to hang out with him and clearly adored him. She would go home at night and then show up again the next morning, hanging on the screen door and calling to him to let her in.

When her owners moved, they bequeathed her to him. “She’s clearly much happier with you.”

They’re still living happily ever after. How can you deny a creature who is clearly in love with you?

I couldn’t give up the love, TRex, it’s just that they tear up the drapes. Pure and simple. They just cost too much.

Hi, pups. Were there technical problems few hours ago? I couldn’t get FDL to load at all. Or maybe my stoopid employer has started blocking blogs.

In any case, it’s Friday and I’m here, and that’s what counts. As long as I’m awake anyway.

The kitty in the video took his bath rather well. Much better than any cat I’ve tried to give a bath!

TheOtherWA @ 147

Hi, pups. Were there technical problems few hours ago? I couldn’t get FDL to load at all. Or maybe my stoopid employer has started blocking blogs.

In any case, it’s Friday and I’m here, and that’s what counts. As long as I’m awake anyway.

The kitty in the video took his bath rather well. Much better than any cat I’ve tried to give a bath!

welcome home!

persiflage @ 139

I must away. It’s a rare Saturday when Mr Persi and I are not only in the same town but he isn’t working. I’ll go and remind myself what he looks like. Everyone going to Suzanne’s tomorrow, have a wonderful time and we expect a full report!

bye persi! on the way to an alternative healing session for Twitch i told him about the hello from Sam, he stopped yowling in his carrier, stared at me, then settled down into mere grumbling. I’d been singing/talking the whole way, hoping that my voice would calm him, but he didn’t calm down until the story. Give Sam a thank-you hug from me (and Twitchy)

Steve-AR @ 83

this reminds me of lutefisk somehow …

Ah!! lye soaked fish.

Yaa Shoor.

speaking of cleaning up, there are dishes calling my name and i’ve got some dusting to do.

will report in tomorrow nite if thers doesn’t mind my crap mixed in with his crap

g’nite all

TOW, nothing happened that I noticed backstage. i bet your dirty dog of a boss blocked the lake (spitting)

Suzanne @ 151

speaking of cleaning up, there are dishes calling my name and i’ve got some dusting to do.

will report in tomorrow nite if thers doesn’t mind my crap mixed in with his crap

g’nite all

g’night Suz!

night suzanne

TRex @ 129

Oh, total noob here. “My” doctor is Eccleston

Hear, hear!!

I was so disappointed that he only lasted a season. He made me just melt.

Me too, he’s one of the few people i know that can get that ’squeee!’ expression. ^_^ 9 is by far my favorite Doctor. I’ve seen some of Tenants work as 10, and i’ll catch up as i’ve heard the seasons are excellent. Sadly, my Spinoff W*ore record runs unblemised with the fact that my heart lies with the darker, sexier Torchwood.

It is sooo refreshing to see the Dems stainging up to Boosh: no funding, no recess, no immunity. Music to my ears. I realize that it all fantasy, kabuki, but I’ll wallow in what I can.

Suzanne @ 152

TOW, nothing happened that I noticed backstage. i bet your dirty dog of a boss blocked the lake (spitting)

Nite, Suz! And thanks for letting me know all was fine here.

*grumble, freakin’ boss, grumble*

i dug up a lot of sod today to expand next year’s garden (ground isn’t frozen yet here, yay!) and all of a sudden my body is saying “Go to bed!”

Good night, all you excellent pups!

TRex @ 134

Alright, gang. Off to bed.

Everybody have a great weekend.

Good night!

You too, for sure TRex.

Pray for rain. *g*

night ndfg

wigwam @ 156

It is sooo refreshing to see the Dems stainging up to Boosh: no funding, no recess, no immunity. Music to my ears. I realize that it all fantasy, kabuki, but I’ll wallow in what I can.

It’s amazing how the littlest bits of rebellion against The Regime make me smile, too.

And on that note, g’nite!

Nite, NDFG. Sleep well.

TeddySanFran @ 161

wigwam @ 156

It is sooo refreshing to see the Dems stainging up to Boosh: no funding, no recess, no immunity. Music to my ears. I realize that it all fantasy, kabuki, but I’ll wallow in what I can.

It’s amazing how the littlest bits of rebellion against The Regime make me smile, too.

And on that note, g’nite!

G’nite TSF!

sleep time here too.

night all

night teddy

Nite, TSF. Oh hell, I’m nodding off too. See everyone tomorow.

TheOtherWA @ 157

Suzanne @ 152

TOW, nothing happened that I noticed backstage. i bet your dirty dog of a boss blocked the lake (spitting)

Nite, Suz! And thanks for letting me know all was fine here.

*grumble, freakin’ boss, grumble*

Luckily, my boss has let me keep the lake so far to get me through the night shift. But ever since SadlyNo! was blocked as a porn site, I have been waiting to lose the lake….

Porn indeed!

aliasofwestgate @ 155

TRex @ 129

Hear, hear!!

I was so disappointed that he only lasted a season. He made me just melt.

Me too, he’s one of the few people i know that can get that ’squeee!’ expression. ^_^ 9 is by far my favorite Doctor. I’ve seen some of Tenants work as 10, and i’ll catch up as i’ve heard the seasons are excellent. Sadly, my Spinoff W*ore record runs unblemised with the fact that my heart lies with the darker, sexier Torchwood.

Well waitin’ till January on that one :-P

wigwam @ 156

It is sooo refreshing to see the Dems stainging up to Boosh: no funding, no recess, no immunity. Music to my ears. I realize that it all fantasy, kabuki, but I’ll wallow in what I can.

*g* If it’s gotta be kabuki, at least some that we can enjoy, eh?

It’s really fascinating. I can’t quite wrap my brain around all of it, but it’s still fascinating.

Phew, back. What’s that gunpowder smell?

wigwam @ 156

It is sooo refreshing to see the Dems stainging up to Boosh: no funding, no recess, no immunity. Music to my ears. I realize that it all fantasy, kabuki, but I’ll wallow in what I can.

I think something might actually happen!

Loo Hoo. @ 171

wigwam @ 156

It is sooo refreshing to see the Dems stainging up to Boosh: no funding, no recess, no immunity. Music to my ears. I realize that it all fantasy, kabuki, but I’ll wallow in what I can.

I think something might actually happen!

Hi Loo Hoo!
The only reason I’m reserving judgment is the string of shocking disappointments to this point. They need to put 4 or 5 really good legislative items right into Chimpy’s backside to capture me at all.

Loo Hoo. @ 171

wigwam @ 156

It is sooo refreshing to see the Dems stainging up to Boosh: no funding, no recess, no immunity. Music to my ears. I realize that it all fantasy, kabuki, but I’ll wallow in what I can.

I think something might actually happen!

I’m hopeful! How ya been?

Like most of you, I am too afraid of getting my heart broken once again to get my hopes up. Bush did his part by pushing me towards the Dems all these years, now if the Dems would just do their part and stand up to the chimp!

The only stopping me from registering as a Democrat is the pathetic behavior of the Democrats.

peanutbutter @ 173

Loo Hoo. @ 171

I think something might actually happen!

I’m hopeful! How ya been?

I get hopeful. Then I get depressed. Then I get hopeful. And then …

Week-by-week, I see no progress. But when I look back at our ineptitude a year ago, struggling with the MCA, I have to say that the progress is monumental. Our situational awareness and our rapid responses are all a hundred times better. In that sense things are improving a lot.

Smgumby @ 174

Like most of you, I am too afraid of getting my heart broken once again to get my hopes up. Bush did his part by pushing me towards the Dems all these years, now if the Dems would just do their part and stand up to the chimp!

The only stopping me from registering as a Democrat is the pathetic behavior of the Democrats.

Keep this in mind: the rank-and-file democrats rate this congress lower than to dthe rank-and-file republicans. ‘Gives me cause for hope.

Alrighty then, people look like thye’ve largely gone to bed…my turn! *waves*

nite pb

wigwam @ 156

It is sooo refreshing to see the Dems stainging up to Boosh: no funding, no recess, no immunity. Music to my ears. I realize that it all fantasy, kabuki, but I’ll wallow in what I can.

enjoy the moment. then keep your eyes open.

“Trust, but verify. ” St. Ron _ Chapter Two, Verse Two

peanutbutter @ 101

Hey, all. I’m quite distracted by season three of dr who. Yay!

How long have you been a Whovian? I got hooked back in the days of Tom Baker.

bobschacht @ 180

peanutbutter @ 101

Hey, all. I’m quite distracted by season three of dr who. Yay!

How long have you been a Whovian? I got hooked back in the days of Tom Baker.

Our Warriors are coming home 10-0, Bob! Aloha Oe!

peanutbutter @ 115

persiflage @ 114

New Dr Who or old Dr Who?

Third season with David Tennet, just came out in DVD. WOOT

Which version of Dr. Who would be best for an adolescent girl, 12 years old, and hyperactive? Which of Dr. Who’s assistants would be the best role model?

Bob in HI

CTuttle @ 181

bobschacht @ 180

How long have you been a Whovian? I got hooked back in the days of Tom Baker.

Our Warriors are coming home 10-0, Bob! Aloha Oe!

I had quite a difficult time. My TV burned out, so I had to listen to the game on Internet radio, with a “Gamecast” on my computer from ESPN. Still a rather exciting finish, however!

Bob in HI

bobschacht @ 182

peanutbutter @ 115

Third season with David Tennet, just came out in DVD. WOOT

Which version of Dr. Who would be best for an adolescent girl, 12 years old, and hyperactive? Which of Dr. Who’s assistants would be the best role model?

Bob in HI

Sarah Tom Baker’s assistant gets my vote.

Sarah Tom Baker’s assistant gets my vote.

Things Come Undone @ 184

bobschacht @ 182

Which version of Dr. Who would be best for an adolescent girl, 12 years old, and hyperactive? Which of Dr. Who’s assistants would be the best role model?

Bob in HI

Sarah Tom Baker’s assistant gets my vote.

Oh, good choice! Thanks for reminding me about her.

Bob in HI

Morning, all. It’s good to be home.

Is the American Economy already in a recession well how would we know? Even Alan Ableson in “Barron’s ” business magazine was talking about how he didn’t trust the Labour Secretarie’s numbers a week or two ago.
Since we can’t trust those numbers and since Bush already has such a fine reputation for both honesty and competence.
I think all the Democrats should just talk and agree to all say that we are in a recession already.
Its a good talking point.
I know collusion sounds unethical but the GOP and the MSM have all been colluding about what to say about Hillary.
Notice the insults against her are all the same the talking points the issue CNN talks about is the same one Rudy and Mitt say on any given day.
Why because the GOP and the MSM between them have only one brain and that is Karl Rove’s.
A little colluding and message coordination would be good for our side to do once in a while.

Morining Burnspbesq.

Are we in a recession the experts say they won’t know until after it has happened.

http://www.alleyinsider.com/20…..tch-7.html

The finanical system is in $2 trillion dollars worth of trouble. Its not the “Long term investors ” which is code for little people, its the leveraged guys Bush’s base.
All the monkeys in 3 piece suits who said that liberals don’t understand business.
All the ones who are against welfare for the poor who believe in pulling yourself up from your bootstraps.
That is until they need help because now they are in troulble.
Has the MSM asked Mitt how Bain Capital is doing in the subprime crises?
Have they asked Bush 1 if his Carlyle group would accept money from a government bailout of hedge funds if the situation gets worst.
What about Morgan Stanley and Citicorp do they think they deserve to be helped sooner and more than the people they are throwing into the street?
These guys could help people by refinancing the mortgage loans, but that would mean they would have to accept losses now on their balence sheet.
By delaying the losses they put off the problem until a democrat is in charge hoping that they can force the Dems to bail them out.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..=AmdbPeq1q

bobschacht @ 182

peanutbutter @ 115

Third season with David Tennet, just came out in DVD. WOOT

Which version of Dr. Who would be best for an adolescent girl, 12 years old, and hyperactive? Which of Dr. Who’s assistants would be the best role model?

Bob in HI

Jo. She’s sensible but assertive.

” The problem with this reasoning, however, is that it’s basically what the Federal Reserve did when it lowered interest rates to 1 percent in 2003. Now, they’re stuck with inflation created by the Greenspan led Fed and a deflating housing bubble that is hammering credit markets. If the Fed cuts now and another economic crisis comes along, the Fed will again be caught between a rock and a hard place, only next time it will have even less ability to act because failing to meet long-range forecasts could damage the credibility of those forecasts. “

http://seekingalpha.com/articl…..ed-s-hands
But perhaps Bernanke wants to tie the Fed’s hands to some degree. Although he has frequently stated that the Fed has a dual mandate of low inflation and full employment, he has yet to say that full employment is an appropriate goal for the Fed, only repeating the line that the Fed has this dual mandate. According to an article in this morning’s Wall Street Journal, Bernanke’s “original goal” was “an explicit inflation target.” Also from the article, he was opposed to an explicit target by other FOMC members “because of concerns it would reduce their flexibility to guide the economy.”

Only next time it will have less ability to act ” Like during a Democratic Presidency perhaps?
The Fed is laying time bombs for the next Democratic President and the Democrats are saying and doing nothing about it. Just who is advising Democrats on economic matters Penn? Rahm? where are Rubin and Reich?

Rahn and Penn what are we going to do with those guys. Its like they live in opposite world. 70% of people are against the war but Penn has Hilary chasing after a nonexistent center, or worse the 30%ers who HATE HER!
Rahm would have the Democrats be tough on immigration. Because he thinks that we can steal this issue from the GOP?
Has he polled the Lou Dobbs, Ron Paul viewers/supporters? They are not going to like you Rahm nomatter what you do to fit in.
However Rahm Hispanics a loyal DEMOCRATIC voting group might stay home this election and if the Dems lose you will be blamed.
When people say divide and conquer they did not mean for you to divide your own forces and let yourself be conqured!
We need to do something about these two besides the constant ridicule, maybe a promotion to a postion where they can’t do any harm perhaps?

Kaubuki, spot on, meme anyone else, like, tired of these shopworn phrases?

Morning Raven, You’ve been missing from the early morning crowd. How’s it going?

JPL @ 196

Morning Raven, You’ve been missing from the early morning crowd. How’s it going?

I’ve had this really nasty cold and I’m trying to get better for our trip to the Gulf Coast tommorow. thx

Good morning, pups. It’s TOMC and Bob Herbert in the NYT today. TOMC seems to have watched the debate. She says when it’s time to take on the Republicans, she would prefer the Democratic candidate who knows how to change the subject and stack the deck. Mr. Herbert says the debates over health care that we’re getting from the presidential candidates seem out of sync with the enormity of the problem.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, I’ve got buckwheat pancakes today, and there’s a pot of oatmeal too because it’s COLD. When I went out to get the paper my thermometer said it was 34, and the Weather Channel says it’s 31 (maybe somewhere more exposed, with more wind). Have a good Saturday, and stay warm.

Raven, Take care. How’s the water supply in Athens? It’s time to start hoarding gallon jugs of water for drinking. I use a Brita filter normally, but I’m not sure that will take care of all the chemicals they are going to have to use to purify the dregs of Lake Lanier. The idea of bathing and shampooing my hair in dregs is not appealing.

Good Morning!

Good Morning Marion!

JPL @ 199

Raven, Take care. How’s the water supply in Athens? It’s time to start hoarding gallon jugs of water for drinking. I use a Brita filter normally, but I’m not sure that will take care of all the chemicals they are going to have to use to purify the dregs of Lake Lanier. The idea of bathing and shampooing my hair in dregs is not appealing.

It sucks. They have been making a big push to tell everyone how dangerous greywater is but it turns out it’s more of an “enforcement” issue than a public health problem. I’m sure we’ll get some grief in Destin from angry gulfers now that Moon Pie Perdue got them to slow the flow from Lanier.

Off to coffe with the Bohdisattva, later ya’ll.

What do these 2 items have in common?(1) American F-16 jets dropped two 2,000 lb. bombs on an island believed to be used by insurgents as a staging ground for attacks in Iraq…leatherneck.com (2) Rahm Emmanued wants to combine the dept. of Homeland Security with DOD.

molly @ 204

What do these 2 items have in common?(1) American F-16 jets dropped two 2,000 lb. bombs on an island believed to be used by insurgents as a staging ground for attacks in Iraq…leatherneck.com (2) Rahm Emmanued wants to combine the dept. of Homeland Security with DOD.

They both make my hair stand on end.

molly @ 204

What do these 2 items have in common?(1) American F-16 jets dropped two 2,000 lb. bombs on an island believed to be used by insurgents as a staging ground for attacks in Iraq…leatherneck.com (2) Rahm Emmanued wants to combine the dept. of Homeland Security with DOD.

insanity?

Good morning.

Molly@204

Do you have links to either story?

eCAHNomics @ 207

Good morning.

Molly@204

Do you have links to either story?

for the second, see Jane on Rahm

and btw
here’s Washington Journal’s lineup

ON WASHINGTON JOURNAL
Saturday, November 17

7:45am – Gail Russell Chaddock, Christian Science Monitor, Congressional Correspondent

8:30am – Fred Harris, Eisenhower Foundation, Chairman

9am – Luis Vurgillo, National Head Start Association, Director of Governmental Affairs | H.R. 1429

9:30am – Dr. Mohammed Abdallah, Sudanese Torture Victims Center, Director | RFK Award

morning!

Things Come Undone @ 188

Is the American Economy already in a recession well how would we know? Even Alan Ableson in “Barron’s ” business magazine was talking about how he didn’t trust the Labour Secretarie’s numbers a week or two ago.
Since we can’t trust those numbers and since Bush already has such a fine reputation for both honesty and competence.
I think all the Democrats should just talk and agree to all say that we are in a recession already.
Its a good talking point.
I know collusion sounds unethical but the GOP and the MSM have all been colluding about what to say about Hillary.
Notice the insults against her are all the same the talking points the issue CNN talks about is the same one Rudy and Mitt say on any given day.
Why because the GOP and the MSM between them have only one brain and that is Karl Rove’s.
A little colluding and message coordination would be good for our side to do once in a while.

Government data drones are pretty far down on the food chain when it comes to politicization. I’ve been out of the business for almost 8 years and I don’t underestimate the extent of W’s corruption of govt services, but I still find it hard to believe that they’ve gotten to the point of influencing the bowels of data production. Otherwise, for example, industrial production would not have been reported down 0.5% in October: http://www.federalreserve.gov/…..efault.htm

But I’ll keep my eyes open for manipulation. Also, keep in mind that for an economy the size of the U.S. and with data operations chronically underfunded, there’s always a large range of uncertainty around any number that’s published.

Elliott @ 208

eCAHNomics @ 207

Good morning.

Molly@204

Do you have links to either story?

for the second, see Jane on Rahm

Oh, yes, parts of HomeSec, not the whole dept. Bad enuf, but not quite so catastrophic as your 204.

Also, How about Wilkerson’s desire to disappear StateDept into DOD, that he was touting about a year or so ago when he first came out against the war? He was everyone’s best friend at the time, as no one seemed to notice his militarization of (laughingly-referred-to-as) diplomacy.

eCAHNomics @ 211 –

i guess there’s been a lot of talk among people who might know that the there’s something not quite right with the way the inflation and unemployment numbers are calculated/estimated – not that the folks doing the number crunching are fudging but that maybe there’s something off in the algorthims used and what’s counted / what’s not counted. so that tends to give me (who doesn’t know how the sausage is made) some lack of confidence in other numbers are well – do they measure what we’re told they measure?

anyway, just wanted to defend the “data drones” while saying i understand the distrust that others may have, because i have some myself.

eCAHNomics @ 212

Also, How about Wilkerson’s desire to disappear StateDept into DOD, that he was touting about a year or so ago when he first came out against the war? He was everyone’s best friend at the time, as no one seemed to notice his militarization of (laughingly-referred-to-as) diplomacy.

i also heard an interview with him which, after rightly complaining that the cabal wanted to make decisions for everyone and not allow others (like wilkerson and powell) participate in the decision making process)…. then go on to pretty much say that the people of haiti shouldn’t be allowed to decide who their leader should be if we don’t like their choice.

there’s an awful lot of people who think that the reins of power and insider status should be expanded – but only until they are included… after that they make excuses for not including anyone else.

Good morning pups!

selise @ 213

eCAHNomics @ 211 –

i guess there’s been a lot of talk among people who might know that the there’s something not quite right with the way the inflation and unemployment numbers are calculated/estimated – not that the folks doing the number crunching are fudging but that maybe there’s something off in the algorthims used and what’s counted / what’s not counted. so that tends to give me (who doesn’t know how the sausage is made) some lack of confidence in other numbers are well – do they measure what we’re told they measure?

anyway, just wanted to defend the “data drones” while saying i understand the distrust that others may have, because i have some myself.

Having been out of the loop so long, I wouldn’t doubt that some major biases have crept in to economic data production. My susupicion is based on my knowledge that the operations are chronically underfunded, and as the economy changes, you need research (i.e., nonproduction) workers to figure out how best to fold these changes into the stats. I would guess that the research operations are well behind where they should be to keep up with the changes.

However, the specific problems that I’ve seen raised (like yours about whether consumer prices are included) have turned out to be inaccurate.

So mistrust and respect are both warranted.

This’ll be good, Bush invites Gore to White House Nobel ceremony

not exactly EPU’ed but from the last thread, something that makes me want to say your welcome, and aw shucks, but t’ain’t nothing that no other Pup woudd’n’a have done.

Good morning to the early rising westcoasters, eastcoasters, in the middlers and all over the world where the sun rises and sets upon Pupdom.

Baystate Bluestaters, previous late night has info on a Next Hurrah meetup today.

GoldenStater, good luck today on fighting petition fraud. Links in the last thread for practical advice on what to look for, photograph and especially record.

Loo Hoo. @ 291

BlueStateRedHead, thanks so much for keeping us up-to-date. Old Coastie was on the job before any of of would have known, and you verify!!

Elliott @ 217

This’ll be good, Bush invites Gore to White House Nobel ceremony

When I saw this yesterday, I noted that if I were Gore, I wouldn’t attend.

O Selise, this sort of thing doesn’t help at all. This correction from the send of Herbert’s column this morning. Sort of think that makes me grind my teeth.

Last week, I mistakenly wrote that the Consumer Price Index does not take into account the cost of food and energy. It’s the “core” C.P.I. that does not take those costs into account.

6 minutes he gets in the debate for statements like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWWBwf2wHE

this guy aint fluff

Ed*ard Teller @ 45

We just finished a special session of our state legislature that sought to replace the corruption-tainted oil extraction fees charged big oil here. The big oil faction was in total disarray, and were handed their biggest defeat in state history by our maverick Republican governor, Sarah Palin. She showed more balls throughout than I’ve seen from most politicians in a long, long time.

Hurray. E..Teller, thanks so much for keeping the lower 48ers aware of your state’s travails here and at the Muck.
You expand our world and help close down that of big oil.

Apropos. what has happened to the bus driver guy who made exposing Stevens junior his cause.
I ask cause Stevens Sr. yesterday threatend bad things to a journalist who did him wrong.
Josh was worried. Believes they may come after is Vericifier TV youtubies.

Not to rain on this bit of sunshine, but vigilance is always a good thing.

eCAHNomics @ 219

Elliott @ 217

This’ll be good, Bush invites Gore to White House Nobel ceremony

When I saw this yesterday, I noted that if I were Gore, I wouldn’t attend.

I can see that but I want to see Bush have to honor Gore, myself.

selise @ 210

morning!

Selise,

Did I dream it last nite, or are you coming to meet Marcie EmptyWheeler at BC and not for a football game but to talk about the news?

If true, and you want to find me, I have, yea, you guessed it, redhair, midlength, am of the female pesuasion, and will be wearing a lilac campaign-sized button with the word SEEKER on it (that’s caps, not yelling).

My reading glasses are also harry potterish.

Christy’s upstairs!

Pull Up A Chair

eCAHNomics @ 216

So mistrust and respect are both warranted.

not so much mistrust – maybe skepticism. :-)

BlueStateRedHead @ 218 –

if you are willing, would you send me and email at speakeasy dot net? i’d love to exchance cell phone numbers so we can meet up. kathryn in ma and i are planning to drive in together… but we’re not sure what the plans/timing are for the meetup. thanks!

BlueStateRedHead @ 224

selise @ 210

morning!

Selise,

Did I dream it last nite, or are you coming to meet Marcie EmptyWheeler at BC and not for a football game but to talk about the news?

If true, and you want to find me, I have, yea, you guessed it, redhair, midlength, am of the female pesuasion, and will be wearing a lilac campaign-sized button with the word SEEKER on it (that’s caps, not yelling).

My reading glasses are also harry potterish.

yup. see my comment above.

even if marcy doesn’t make it to her own meetup, kathryn and i would love to meet you and phred (last i heard prof. foland was a maybe, and isn’t scarecrow supposed to be there too?).

i thought i might wear my “impeach cheney” cap for identification purposes. also, there’s a pic of me and kathryn here (with revdeb and scarecrow and ned).

still trying to figure out what the timing for the meetup is. have heard several different things.

selise @ 228

BlueStateRedHead @ 224

selise @ 210

Selise,

Did I dream it last nite, or are you coming to meet Marcie EmptyWheeler at BC and not for a football game but to talk about the news?

If true, and you want to find me, I have, yea, you guessed it, redhair, midlength, am of the female pesuasion, and will be wearing a lilac campaign-sized button with the word SEEKER on it (that’s caps, not yelling).

My reading glasses are also harry potterish.

yup. see my comment above.

even if marcy doesn’t make it to her own meetup, kathryn and i would love to meet you and phred (last i heard prof. foland was a maybe, and isn’t scarecrow supposed to be there too?).

i thought i might wear my “impeach cheney” cap for identification purposes. also, there’s a pic of me and kathryn here (with revdeb and scarecrow and ned).

still trying to figure out what the timing for the meetup is. have heard several different things.

Emailed you, but so the world knows that the EastCoast Pups will be meeting at the same time as the West, here’s the meetup place according to pfred.

An Tua Nua. 835 Beacon St. ( 1 block from Kenmore Square toward Brookline) . Parking at a nearby hospital lot described on their web page.

Simultaneous Meetups. It’s an f**g conspiracy.

Ed*ard Teller @ 45

We just finished a special session of our state legislature that sought to replace the corruption-tainted oil extraction fees charged big oil here. The big oil faction was in total disarray, and were handed their biggest defeat in state history by our maverick Republican governor, Sarah Palin. She showed more balls throughout than I’ve seen from most politicians in a long, long time.

That’s amazing. Big changes abornin’ in Alaska I predict!

eCAHNomics @ 211

Things Come Undone @ 188

Is the American Economy already in a recession well how would we know? Even Alan Ableson in “Barron’s ” business magazine was talking about how he didn’t trust the Labour Secretarie’s numbers a week or two ago.
Since we can’t trust those numbers and since Bush already has such a fine reputation for both honesty and competence.
I think all the Democrats should just talk and agree to all say that we are in a recession already.
Its a good talking point.
I know collusion sounds unethical but the GOP and the MSM have all been colluding about what to say about Hillary.
Notice the insults against her are all the same the talking points the issue CNN talks about is the same one Rudy and Mitt say on any given day.
Why because the GOP and the MSM between them have only one brain and that is Karl Rove’s.
A little colluding and message coordination would be good for our side to do once in a while.

Government data drones are pretty far down on the food chain when it comes to politicization. I’ve been out of the business for almost 8 years and I don’t underestimate the extent of W’s corruption of govt services, but I still find it hard to believe that they’ve gotten to the point of influencing the bowels of data production. Otherwise, for example, industrial production would not have been reported down 0.5% in October: http://www.federalreserve.gov/…..efault.htm

But I’ll keep my eyes open for manipulation. Also, keep in mind that for an economy the size of the U.S. and with data operations chronically underfunded, there’s always a large range of uncertainty around any number that’s published.

Alan suggests Bush’s Labour Secretary not the workers are the problem. Also I think it was some kind of birth, death index that was at varriance with an actual labor survey?
I’m sorry I don’t have more details I threw my copy of Barron’s away.

eCAHNomics @ 211

Things Come Undone @ 188

Is the American Economy already in a recession well how would we know? Even Alan Ableson in “Barron’s ” business magazine was talking about how he didn’t trust the Labour Secretarie’s numbers a week or two ago.
[snip]

Government data drones are pretty far down on the food chain when it comes to politicization. I’ve been out of the business for almost 8 years and I don’t underestimate the extent of W’s corruption of govt services, but I still find it hard to believe that they’ve gotten to the point of influencing the bowels of data production. Otherwise, for example, industrial production would not have been reported down 0.5% in October: http://www.federalreserve.gov/…..efault.htm

But I’ll keep my eyes open for manipulation. Also, keep in mind that for an economy the size of the U.S. and with data operations chronically underfunded, there’s always a large range of uncertainty around any number that’s published.

Believe it. I used to work for Commerce. They have been trying to get past unfortunate facts for a long time [eg bold].

I have RIGHTS! I demand a writ of habeas cattus!

TheOtherWA @ 147

Hi, pups. Were there technical problems few hours ago? I couldn’t get FDL to load at all. Or maybe my stoopid employer has started blocking blogs.

In any case, it’s Friday and I’m here, and that’s what counts. As long as I’m awake anyway.

The kitty in the video took his bath rather well. Much better than any cat I’ve tried to give a bath!

Absoulutely, if we tried to give a bath to our two six month old kittens, we wouldn’t have a face left.

…a boy turns gay.

Welll…I missed that. What did bathing that adorable kitty have to do with those four words?

Because I do have a gay cat, ya know.

Pete & Sun says:
November 16th, 2007 at 10:13 pm

Thought your comment was so astute I posted it over at Eschaton.

Amazingly, if there were video of waterboarding a dog, the country would go crazy against that form of torture.

People? “Others”? Not so much.

Barney? Mukasey have a dog? (Snark, you NSA watchers.)