late late!

TRex!!!

TRex – ice is your friend

hello again.

TRex!

was downstairs told

Suzanne @ 6

was downstairs told

yes, comment 313

Suzanne @ 6

was downstairs told

That they were…

thank you

late late, hail hail, Muse Muse.

I’ll be gooder this thread, I promise.

I read the title and said to myself, Grace!

I remember a Dead show in Sacramento long ago.. The entire show in pouring rain.. Only the Dead could do an entire show of rain songs to a sold out outdoor show and keep every single person dancing all the way through.

Here I am.

Oh, right.

Ice pack.

BRB.

Hmmm. @ 11

I’ll be gooder this thread, I promise.

were you bad before?

I got a little uncharacteristically het up.

I blame Dell, and the Neighborhood Watch people.

TRex
Did you read the cartoon caption I left you at the beginning of the last thread, or did you miss it?

Hmmm. @ 15

I got a little uncharacteristically het up.

I blame Dell, and the Neighborhood Watch people.

ok, well, watch out then (wink)

ok, well, watch out then (wink)

Hey, I live (once again) to serve.

since last night we had rain songs.. what kinda themed songs shall we do tonight?

ice songs for TRex?
back songs for TRex?

union music

Suzanne @ 20

ice songs for TRex?
back songs for TRex?

The Platters…

I Hope Harry Reid Doesn’t Turn Out To Be An Asshat songs?

newtonusr @ 22

Suzanne @ 20

ice songs for TRex?
back songs for TRex?

The Platters…

laughing.. punworthy!

Hopeful songs.
Ooh, Child.

Suzanne @ 20

ice songs for TRex?
back songs for TRex?

a back song for Trex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWFpdPX45g

When I put that particular video up, I didn’t realize it was so stark.

neurophius @ 26

Suzanne @ 20

ice songs for TRex?
back songs for TRex?

a back song for Trex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWFpdPX45g

Oh, ‘back’ and ‘man/woman’… very good.

Here’s one for TRex – Feel the Pain

TRex, What’s your favorite grace album? Mine is Nightclubbing.

TexBetsy @ 21

union music

Here ya go, Jackie Wilson… ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

Suzanne @ 20

ice songs for TRex?
back songs for TRex?

An ice song for Trex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_5DqFc9OOg

thanks CT

Eureka Springs @ 30

TRex, What’s your favorite grace album? Mine is Nightclubbing.

I concur.

The original ZTT “Slave to the Rhythm” has some awesome moments, though.

tomorrow’s going to be a long day. time for me to start moving towards sleep.

Baby Got Back

pain free sleep wishes tex

Sweet dreams, TexBetsy.

night, Betsy – sleep well.

I’m going to (ahem) back away from the computer as well, guys. It doesn’t mean that I don’t love you.

Good night.

TRex @ 40

I’m going to (ahem) back away from the computer as well, guys. It doesn’t mean that I don’t love you.

Good night.

g’nite trex and hope your back is better real soon

nite t. feel better

TexBetsy @ 33

thanks CT

My wife was grooving, too…!

Hail ouchy Muse TRex!

Thanks y’all.

My News Links

Both, T’s, Tex and TRex, Pain free sleep… *g*

nite betsy

CTuttle @ 46

Both, T’s, Tex and TRex, Pain free sleep… *g*

ding

I’m Home! Wazzup?

Ed*ard Teller @ 49

I’m Home! Wazzup?

wazzup 4 chu, man?

Ed*ard Teller @ 49

I’m Home! Wazzup?

You ready for tomorrow’s show? ;-)

Evening all.

Mite Tex & TRex.

Ed*ard Teller @ 49

I’m Home! Wazzup?

howdy! nothing much here, just can’t sleep.

Ed*ard Teller @ 49

I’m Home! Wazzup?

The debate!

Good night, sleepers.

selise @ 53

howdy! nothing much here, just can’t sleep.

selise!

CTuttle @ 51

Ed*ard Teller @ 49

I’m Home! Wazzup?

You ready for tomorrow’s show? ;-)

Yeah, but it has been moved to Monday. Disadvantage of being a temp…

Anyone have a rundown of the scheduled follies on the Hill through the weekend?

Sunny and Selise!

Hmmm. @ 57

Anyone have a rundown of the scheduled follies on the Hill through the weekend?

selise always has the congressional hearings up over at her place.. click on her name to get there

Ed*ard Teller @ 56

CTuttle @ 51

You ready for tomorrow’s show? ;-)

Yeah, but it has been moved to Monday. Disadvantage of being a temp…

Relax, Rush status is still within your realm… ;-)

Thanks, Suzanne. I meant the plan for the Senate to stay in extended floor session, not hearings.

Hmmm. @ 61

Thanks, Suzanne. I meant the plan for the Senate to stay in extended floor session, not hearings.

whoops.. sorry

Hmmm. @ 61

Thanks, Suzanne. I meant the plan for the Senate to stay in extended floor session, not hearings.

Actually, Reid is planning Pro Forma sessions throughout the Turkey recess to circumvent Shrub’s interim BS!

Hmmm. @ 57

Anyone have a rundown of the scheduled follies on the Hill through the weekend?

i think the house is not in session tomorrow, but the senate, i think, will be the “emergency supplemental” S.2340.

mondays and fridays there ususally aren’t many (or any) hearings.

that is all i know… but, there could be major stuff i don’t know about… i am seriously behind on my reading today.

CTuttle @ 63

Hmmm. @ 61

Thanks, Suzanne. I meant the plan for the Senate to stay in extended floor session, not hearings.

Actually, Reid is planning Pro Forma sessions throughout the Turkey recess to circumvent Shrub’s interim BS!

What does Reid think the Congress is, a separate aond coequal branch of government, or something?

CTuttle @ 60

Relax, Rush status is still within your realm… ;-)

A pox on that notion, CT! I just wanna change things and write more music in a free fucking country.

neurophius @ 65

CTuttle @ 63

Actually, Reid is planning Pro Forma sessions throughout the Turkey recess to circumvent Shrub’s interim BS!

What does Reid think the Congress is, a separate aond coequal branch of government, or something?

Umm, something called a ’spine’? Maybe?

et, what’s the weather tonight?

Hmmm. @ 61

Thanks, Suzanne. I meant the plan for the Senate to stay in extended floor session, not hearings.

i’m still trying to learn where to find stuff… so there’s probably a better source… but i’d check out reid’s statement on the expected schedule he gives to the senate floor at the begining of everyday (after the chaplain’s prayer). i think the senate is suppose to reconvene early tommorrow (8:30am?)

Suzanne @ 68

et, what’s the weather tonight?

calm, semi-cloudy, about 20 degrees F. The dog wants to stay outside.

Ed*ard Teller @ 66

CTuttle @ 60

Relax, Rush status is still within your realm… ;-)

A pox on that notion, CT! I just wanna change things and write more music in a free fucking country.

Shoot for the stars! The free f’ing country part, that is…! ;-)

What breed of dog, ET?

that’s cold to this californian et – i would be wanting to stay inside and i know my california dog would be saying the same thing

newtonusr @ 55

selise @ 53

howdy! nothing much here, just can’t sleep.

selise!

hey newtonusr! are you still here? i sent you an email about the problem i’m having posting the vCard file (for the senate). may i impose on you (again!) for advice?

loohoo, you should check out et’s pics on his f/b page – he has great pics of his dog all over his albums

Thanks much, Selise for the tip on catching Harry’s opening statement. Guess I’ll TiVo it, I’m not up by 5:30am PST.

Yeah, I heard about staying in session over the holidays to thwart recess appointments — which is truly great — but for everyone else — this thing I’m talkin’ about over the weekend is different.

TexBetsy @ 35

tomorrow’s going to be a long day. time for me to start moving towards sleep.

You are getting tired… very, very tired.
Your eyes are getting heavy… can hardly keep those peepers open. Sandman has come, and is circling round your head…. your mind is going blank…. except for one simple thought: must… find… bed….

Nighty night!

Bob in HI

selise @ 74

newtonusr @ 55

selise!

hey newtonusr! are you still here? i sent you an email about the problem i’m having posting the vCard file (for the senate). may i impose on you (again!) for advice?

sure. checking email now…

Suzanne @ 73

that’s cold to this californian et – i would be wanting to stay inside and i know my california dog would be saying the same thing

And all my Hawaiian Ohana, too!

Hmmm. @ 76

Yeah, I heard about staying in session over the holidays to thwart recess appointments — which is truly great — but this thing I’m talkin’ about over the weekend is different.

that’s exciting! thanks for the info – you are way ahead of me!

Loo Hoo. @ 72

What breed of dog, ET?

I’m not sure. You help decide.

(deep sigh) off to do the floors (yes, including waxing) for the meetup saturday

remember, if ya are planning on attending and have not let me know, please email me at ten67x at google email thingie dot com for directions, etc.

g’nite all

You’re most welcome, selise. (And I’m most surprised to have passed info to you!)

Sweet dreams, Suzanne.

Suzanne – always waxing, never waning – nor whining.

The house WILL SELL!

Hmmm. @ 83 –

my motto is: we are smarter when we work together.

p.s. i’m really just trying to figure stuff out… only started watching lots of c-span and some hearings about one and a half years ago. i blame it all on christy – she got me hooked!

Suzanne @ 82 –

nite!

p.s. i would have thought that you’d need to do the cleaning and waxing after the meetup.

A couple of odd things.

Condy Backs Down on Forcing Diplomats To Iraq

Apparently they forced enough people to “volunteer”.

selise – ygm

my motto is: we are smarter when we work together.

p.s. i’m really just trying to figure stuff out… only started watching lots of c-span and some hearings about one and a half years ago. i blame it all on christy – she got me hooked!

You’re modest. I like modest.

Goodnight, Suz. And ET, ’tis a mystery the breed of your dog. German/black lab? Cutie, whatever!

selise @ 80

Hmmm. @ 76

Yeah, I heard about staying in session over the holidays to thwart recess appointments — which is truly great — but this thing I’m talkin’ about over the weekend is different.

that’s exciting! thanks for the info – you are way ahead of me!

Sadly, it’s primarily a pyrrhic victory, considering the mammoth $450Bil Defense bill already passed, it’s easy enough to divert funds within DoD!

Who’s Push-Polling Romney?

No that’s not the “PushMe-PullYou” creature from Dr. Doolittle. “Push Polls” are sleazy Swift Boating like ads hidden in the guise of a phone survey. Quite expensive to undertake and usually only undertaken by a contender who is trying to take down someone leading the race…or force someone close further back.

Apparently Western Wats (commissioned by the Tarrance Group) has done surveying for both McCain and Giuliani in the past so suspicion has immediately fallen on those campaigns.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/

http://hotlineblog.nationaljou…..ins_1.html

“>Tarrance Joins Giuliani Campaign

Western Wats denies everything, says they would never do “push polls”…well except for the fact that similar push polls have been caught and the “poller” almost always say they work for “an independent survey Group called Western Wats”.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/…..idates.php

Suzanne @ 82

(deep sigh) off to do the floors (yes, including waxing) for the meetup saturday

remember, if ya are planning on attending and have not let me know, please email me at ten67x at google email thingie dot com for directions, etc.

g’nite all

Bonne Nuit, Ma Cheri!

cinnamonape is whispering or thinking.

Loo Hoo. @ 97

cinnamonape is whispering or thinking.

Moderated!

Moderator- Could you drop #95 s’il vous plait. Weird stuff happened on the preview so I posted the second part that didn’t show up and it duplicated the original that DID show up???

CTuttle @ 92

Sadly, it’s primarily a pyrrhic victory, considering the mammoth $450Bil Defense bill already passed, it’s easy enough to divert funds within DoD!

my goal is to learn how to see behind the kabuki.

Loo Hoo. @ 91

Goodnight, Suz. And ET, ’tis a mystery the breed of your dog. German/black lab? Cutie, whatever!

I got him from the animal control shelter when he was 5 months old. He was supposed to be lab-newfie, but his tail and ear stance show husky. That explains his reluctance to swim. He’s the best dog in the world, beyond gentle.

Edwards campaign manager Joe Trippi was on Hardball tonight. I’d never seen him before, and was negatively impressed. He seemed to be whining about the fact that Hilliary has lots of corporate money, but when Tweety asked him, “So what?”, Trippi seemed stuck for an answer.

selise @ 100

CTuttle @ 92

Sadly, it’s primarily a pyrrhic victory, considering the mammoth $450Bil Defense bill already passed, it’s easy enough to divert funds within DoD!

my goal is to learn how to see behind the kabuki.

Dang, Ma’am, you expect a miracle…

Loo Hoo. @ 97

cinnamonape is whispering or thinking.

Or perhaps thinking in whispers?

I can’t hear myself thinking sometimes with all the gears and cogwheels scraping up there ;-)

newtonusr @ 89

selise – ygm

thank you!

newtonusr to the rescue – again!

i hope the folks going to saturday’s meetup will let the rest of us know if newtonusr’s super human powers are apparent when you meet…. i wouldn’t be surprised by a superhero cape or something.

Seeing behind the Kabuki is an excellent goal. Had I more time, I might want to become an amateur parlimentarian. Can’t read the game if you don’t know the rules.

Fell into Judith Regan’s complaint against Harper/Collins and News Corp today, it’s riveting – the media echo-chamber at work and the mechanics of the smear.

Though it’s 70 pages long, the first 40 read like a novel. Dunno if she’ll get anywhere with the suit, but posting the complaint itself must have been gratifying. Her thesis is that her reputation was savaged at the direction of Rupert Murdoch to protect Giuliani’s reputation.

Her examples of simultaneous attacks by the interlocking media are compelling. If we hadn’t seen similar attacks it would sound like fiction. Given what we’ve seen, not quite so easy to brush it off.

Can’t say she comes across as particularly sympathetic, but she seems very real.

Ed*ard Teller @ 101

Loo Hoo. @ 91

Goodnight, Suz. And ET, ’tis a mystery the breed of your dog. German/black lab? Cutie, whatever!

I got him from the animal control shelter when he was 5 months old. He was supposed to be lab-newfie, but his tail and ear stance show husky. That explains his reluctance to swim. He’s the best dog in the world, beyond gentle.

i love the pic of him and the black cat laying in the sun.

selise @ 100

CTuttle @ 92

Sadly, it’s primarily a pyrrhic victory, considering the mammoth $450Bil Defense bill already passed, it’s easy enough to divert funds within DoD!

my goal is to learn how to see behind the kabuki.

More power to you, if you can see through that. The name of the game is “situational awareness.”

On a very positive note, compare the situational awareness and the responses that progressives have today compared to the fiasco that went down a year ago with the MCA. At that point, it seemed like nobody on our side had inside contacts, and nobody had a clue what was going on. There was some kind of kabuki going on with McCain, Warner, and the White House, but even when the final bill came out nobody knew for sure who was responsible for what, and why.

Good progress, but still a long way to go.

Hmmm. @ 106

Seeing behind the Kabuki is an excellent goal. Had I more time, I might want to become an amateur parlimentarian. Can’t read the game if you don’t know the rules.

But, Robert’s rules aren’t the only ones, they draw’em up as they go along, remember the ‘nuclear option’? *g*

CTuttle @ 103

selise @ 100

my goal is to learn how to see behind the kabuki.

Dang, Ma’am, you expect a miracle…

it’s good to have goals in life… even if there’s little chance of success.

Hmmm. @ 106

Seeing behind the Kabuki is an excellent goal. Had I more time, I might want to become an amateur parlimentarian. Can’t read the game if you don’t know the rules.

it may come to that… i’m luck in that my rep’s aide to the rules committee has been very helpful in explaining some of the house stuff. and the senate parlimentarian is also helpful.

the house has some good online resources to learn more about the rules – at some point, i should really sit down and read it all.

haven’t found any decent resources on the senate rules though.

selise @ 104

newtonusr @ 89

selise – ygm

thank you!

newtonusr to the rescue – again!

i hope the folks going to saturday’s meetup will let the rest of us know if newtonusr’s super human powers are apparent when you meet…. i wouldn’t be surprised by a superhero cape or something.

Thanks selise, but really…
This kind of file mis-ident issue cropped up all the time when ftp became available to the masses, at least on the Mac, millions of years ago. Remember when “Fetch” was still free and university-distributed?
I think if you look in the “Transmit” upload prefs, you may find the setting that is causing you this grief. But stripping the “.txt” suffix works on the Mac side. I have no idea what to do with it on the PC.

But, Robert’s rules aren’t the only ones, they draw’em up as they go along, remember the ‘nuclear option’? *g*

Sorry, I must have missed the part where I claimed it’d be easy. ;-)

Did you see that Netroots Nation is doing an early registration?

wigwam @ 100

Edwards campaign manager Joe Trippi was on Hardball tonight. I’d never seen him before, and was negatively impressed. He seemed to be whining about the fact that Hilliary has lots of corporate money, but when Tweety asked him, “So what?”, Trippi seemed stuck for an answer.

Trippied Up? Maybe he got thinkin’ about where John gets his campaign contributions? Are Hedge Funds, Law Firms and Banks “corporations”?

http://www.opensecrets.org/pre…..cycle=2008

selise @ 105

newtonusr @ 89

selise – ygm

thank you!

newtonusr to the rescue – again!

i hope the folks going to saturday’s meetup will let the rest of us know if newtonusr’s super human powers are apparent when you meet…. i wouldn’t be surprised by a superhero cape or something.

Actually, he’s quite human! You’d be surprised.

wigwam @ 109

selise @ 100

my goal is to learn how to see behind the kabuki.

More power to you, if you can see through that. The name of the game is “situational awareness.”

On a very positive note, compare the situational awareness and the responses that progressives have today compared to the fiasco that went down a year ago with the MCA. At that point, it seemed like nobody on our side had inside contacts, and nobody had a clue what was going on. There was some kind of kabuki going on with McCain, Warner, and the White House, but even when the final bill came out nobody knew for sure who was responsible for what, and why.

Good progress, but still a long way to go.

In my twenty years of noncom service, I was always asked by the Commissioned, wtf? I served in Co. to Div. level TOC’s and briefed Generals periodically… ;-)

Dkos on the ballot petition fraud thing.

Loo Hoo. @ 112

Did you see that Netroots Nation is doing an early registration?

Yeah, looks like we’re going to get to see Betsy again this year!

newtonusr @ 119

Loo Hoo. @ 112

Did you see that Netroots Nation is doing an early registration?

Yeah, looks like we’re going to get to see Betsy again this year!

Fly her down in your arms…? ;-)

wigwam @ 109

The name of the game is “situational awareness.”

so much of what’s going on isn’t available to us… that’s probably part of the problem.

i’ve really found that watching c-span for the floor debates / actions has been a real help in seeing through some of the misinformation (or spin or whatever you want to call it). not unfrequently, something we get told is completely contradicted by what happened on the floor – like last week on the mukasey nomination vote, or the first weekend in august for the fisa votes.

and the new c-span archives – which are updated and annotated on the fly have been a godsend.

newtonusr @ 119

Loo Hoo. @ 112

Did you see that Netroots Nation is doing an early registration?

Yeah, looks like we’re going to get to see Betsy again this year!

And all of the Central Texas pups maybe. LS, WangDangDoodle, GreenWarrior, who knows all the pups? Maybe even Alfred??

selise @ 121

wigwam @ 109

The name of the game is “situational awareness.”

so much of what’s going on isn’t available to us… that’s probably part of the problem.

i’ve really found that watching c-span for the floor debates / actions has been a real help in seeing through some of the misinformation (or spin or whatever you want to call it). not unfrequently, something we get told is completely contradicted by what happened on the floor – like last week on the mukasey nomination vote, or the first weekend in august for the fisa votes.

and the new c-span archives – which are updated and annotated on the fly have been a godsend.

Further along, will there be any mention of DK’s Impeachment applause during the debate, by the MSM?

I want to see the tape of whatever happened in SJC today. To figure out exactly what it was that Leahy did to sidestep the Title II immunity stuff.

Good night.

Loo Hoo. @ 125

Good night.

Nite!

nite loo hoo
selise – ygm again…
in fact, im out, too. nite all

I shall bid a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

‘Nite, all. Dream sweetly.

Who’s left?

I’m watching a replay of the Dem candidate debate, and I noticed a subtle anti-Hilary thing: Periodically, one of the guys will agree with one of the other guys– but never(?) with Hillary. Kind of a nice way to put her down?

Bob in HI

Maybe just you & me? I always knew my heart was in Hawaii, now I know my body clock is, too.

selise @ 119

wigwam @ 109

The name of the game is “situational awareness.”

so much of what’s going on isn’t available to us… that’s probably part of the problem.

i’ve really found that watching c-span for the floor debates / actions has been a real help in seeing through some of the misinformation (or spin or whatever you want to call it). not unfrequently, something we get told is completely contradicted by what happened on the floor – like last week on the mukasey nomination vote, or the first weekend in august for the fisa votes.

and the new c-span archives – which are updated and annotated on the fly have been a godsend.

You’re pioneering this stuff for the entire progressive community. Thanks.

newtonusr @ 127

nite loo hoo
selise – ygm again…
in fact, im out, too. nite all

and a reply from me…
thanks for the clues! i will experiment tonight.
later and good night.

Oops. It’s gotten to be that time. G’nite all.

Huh. WaPo says:

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), who has not signaled his position on the proposals, will decide how the competing provisions will be handled on the floor. “In the end, there’s going to be an open-ended debate on immunity,” said Reid spokesman Jim Manley, who said he expects the issue will be considered on the floor in early December.

(Bold added)

Thought it’d be sooner than that. Lotta time for horsetrading between now and then. On the other hand, reduced time to get it settled before PAA sunsets.

Hmmm. @ 124

I want to see the tape of whatever happened in SJC today. To figure out exactly what it was that Leahy did to sidestep the Title II immunity stuff.

me too! it was just shown on c-span2, but i only caught the begining. the streaming webcast will be posted to the archive soon (probably tomorrow). here’s the link:

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/…..d=202339-1

Thanks! Bookmarked for later viewing.

Kucinich proposes Constitutional Convention to repair the damage done by this Administration.

I wondered about the same idea here a couple months ago.

Well, The Sweetie will be home very soon, so off I go. Sweet dreams to all.

1,660 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND

selise @ 134

Hmmm. @ 124

I want to see the tape of whatever happened in SJC today. To figure out exactly what it was that Leahy did to sidestep the Title II immunity stuff.

me too! it was just shown on c-span2, but i only caught the begining. the streaming webcast will be posted to the archive soon (probably tomorrow). here’s the link:

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/…..d=202339-1

I saw it, and here’s what I remember. They spent all day debating Title I, proposing amendments, then debating and voting on amendments, and Leahy finally scheduled a vote just on Title I as amended, and that passed. They started debate on Title II, and Feingold immediately offered an amendment about retroactive immunity (I can’t remember the wording, or whether it was for [unlikely] or against). Then Leahy, seeing that there was going to be a long debate, moved to offer just Title I as the whole bill, and move it to the floor without waiting on Title II, and that motion passed. I think they do plan to debate Title II, but when, or in what form it will get to the floor, who knows. But right now, Title I is the WHOLE BILL. I.e., no retroactive immunity. See Greenwald’s post today, Updates X and XI.

But its late, even here in Honolulu, and I may be misremembering. I think Christy will explain it all tomorrow morning.

Bob in HI

bobschacht @ 141 –

thanks! it may seem clearer after we’ve gotten some sleep…. and i will watch the end first (when the archive is available).

i don’t think the sjc has jurisdiction after this week (they were only given 30 days)…

nite Hmmm!

I knew I was forgetting a good one! Wow, it’s been ages …

“Sounding like a no-no,
Making when I can …”

NORSKE!

Is it morning yet?

good mroning, 28 and icy clear in Trendy Blue Ridge GA, Howdy, Ed*ard, Norske, egregious, Selise, pd, et al..

or maybe not.

A gentle reminder to choose one screen name and stick with it please.

Thnx

Blumenthal’s last column for a while, as he joins the Clinton campaign. He’s leaving in style [my emph]:

Mukasey’s testimony was symptomatic of the new constitutional order forged by Bush. Even more insidious, the secretive process to which the administration subjected Mukasey to get him to toe the line underlines that the radical changes Bush has made in the presidency are not merely for one administration, but intended for all that follow.

On Oct. 25, Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois received written responses from Mukasey to questions he had submitted. In one question, Durbin asked about a report that Mukasey had met with unnamed conservative figures to discuss his legal views and allay any misgivings they might have.

The list of names extracted from Mukasey by Durbin passed by unnoticed in the controversy. Mukasey revealed that on order of “officials within the White House” he sat down with six prominent right-wing leaders, whose gathering constituted a de facto subcommittee of the “Inner Party” of the conservative movement. Those present were Reagan’s attorney general, Edwin Meese III; former Reagan and Bush I legal officials Lee Casey and David Rivkin; the executive vice president of the Federalist Society, Leonard Leo; the president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, Edward Whelan; and the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice (founded by Pat Robertson), Jay Sekulow.

prostratedragon @ 149

Blumenthal’s last column for a while, as he joins the Clinton campaign. He’s leaving in style [my emph]:

Mukasey’s testimony was symptomatic of the new constitutional order forged by Bush. Even more insidious, the secretive process to which the administration subjected Mukasey to get him to toe the line underlines that the radical changes Bush has made in the presidency are not merely for one administration, but intended for all that follow.

On Oct. 25, Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois received written responses from Mukasey to questions he had submitted. In one question, Durbin asked about a report that Mukasey had met with unnamed conservative figures to discuss his legal views and allay any misgivings they might have.

The list of names extracted from Mukasey by Durbin passed by unnoticed in the controversy. Mukasey revealed that on order of “officials within the White House” he sat down with six prominent right-wing leaders, whose gathering constituted a de facto subcommittee of the “Inner Party” of the conservative movement. Those present were Reagan’s attorney general, Edwin Meese III; former Reagan and Bush I legal officials Lee Casey and David Rivkin; the executive vice president of the Federalist Society, Leonard Leo; the president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, Edward Whelan; and the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice (founded by Pat Robertson), Jay Sekulow.

I keep wondering if the Democrats might try to ‘demonize’ (that is, have commercials and press releases that accurately portray) “a private, secretive group that has planned to pack the courts wht right wing judges, to limit your right to sue, to consistently strip unions of their rights, and consistently had the Administration dictatorial powers” i.e. the Federalist Society.
Just a litany of how their positions are at odds with the general public might be a start.

1,660 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..

Firepup Freedom Fighters:

The dumbest son of the largest family in America’s oligarchy has jest accomplished what 75 years of well heeled and appointed power weilders could not and that is mainstream fascism into the common politic and insitutionalize it in the law, courts and prescedent. Even if the FISA Bill passes without telecom immunity, it will take hundreds of prosecutions including prosecutions for treason relating to the Valery Wilson affair and war crimes prosecutions both here and in the Hague in order to even begin to cleanse the corruption of tyranny from our politics and institutions. And I’m afraid we’ve passed the point where that is possible…I’m afraid the dumb bastard actually succeeded in killin’ democracy in America.

KEEP THE FAITH, THERE’S LOTSA FIGHTIN’ LEFT TA DO!!

NorskeFlamethrower @ 138

1,660 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND

And the only candidate on last nights debate who would stop the Killin’is Kucinich.

Good morning, pups. Mr. Krugman has a column in the Times today where he says Barack Obama’s Social Security mistake was exactly what you’d expect from a candidate who promises to transcend partisanship in an age when that’s neither possible nor desirable.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

In addition to that Bobo and somebody named Ben Schott have put together something so profoundly silly, trivial and stupid that words fail me. You can find it here:

Bobo piddles in the electoral process

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. Have a great Friday.

Marion in Savannah @ 153

Good morning, pups. Mr. Krugman has a column in the Times today where he says Barack Obama’s Social Security mistake was exactly what you’d expect from a candidate who promises to transcend partisanship in an age when that’s neither possible nor desirable.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

In addition to that Bobo and somebody named Ben Schott have put together something so profoundly silly, trivial and stupid that words fail me. You can find it here:

Bobo piddles in the electoral process

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. Have a great Friday.

Good mroning Marion. The Bobo piece was not without promise, and has it’s pleasures (under the “Logic” column, F. Thompson’s is ‘unused’).
This is the sort of stuff that the National Lampoon would have been doing in 1977.
When P.J. O’rourke was funny.

And a second review is clear it is full of cheap shots..

Good Morning! I’ll have to take your word on Bobo’s article since I’ve sworn off reading his opeds.

Last nights debate was interesting to watch because it confirmed to me that all candidates would be capable of leading the country. How did the other early risers feel?

Good Morning!

Democratic debate’s the topic for call-ins on CSPAN 1

ON WASHINGTON JOURNAL
Friday, November 16
7am – Newspaper Articles & Viewer Calls
7:45am – David Mark, The Politico, Senior Editor
8:30am – Newspaper Articles & Viewer Calls
9am – Rep. Vito Fossella (R-NY) 13th District: Staten Island, Brooklyn
9:30am – Akram Sheikh, Pakistani Lawyer Opposing President Musharraf

Nothing like talk of “entitlement reform”,
no matter how inane,
to make Fred Hiatt’s wrecking crew have an “accident”.

Next time, Fred, try wearing dark pants.

JPL @ 157

Last nights debate was interesting to watch because it confirmed to me that all candidates would be capable of leading the country. How did the other early risers feel?

It made me feel like feeding Wolf Blitzer to the sharks.

Wolf was funny with his yes or no answers. He certainly didn’t pass the diplomatic test. Obama will get criticized for his view on driver licenses for undocumented immigrants but I’m glad that he pointed out to Wolf that it’s a wedge issue.

before I leave for work, this happened yesterday:

tiny seventh grade boy, brown curly hair, harry potter glasses, doing rubics cube:

I’m dreading the weekend.
Why? I ask.
My parents have decided I have post nasal drip.
What does that have to do with the weekend?
I’m gonna have it all weekend.

Who is the singer in yesterday’s youtube, doing “I can’t stand the rain”. It’s not Ann peebles…I really want to know???

Good morning, all…it’s in the 30s in Upstate New York. We have a little snow on the ground this morning after a lot of rain last night.
Everyone ready for another day of rock and roll?

I know I’m late to this thread, computer down last night but I guess you guys are gonna get a kick out of this;

about 20 years or so agoI was at a small party that was for grace’s birthday

well, she has a brother

the two were impossible to tell apart, her brother flirted with me all night, took my number, called for a while insisting it was just for friendship not sex…never took him up on meeting again

here’s the funny part, grace was with guys and spent very little time with any women at all, it seemed to me like though she wanted to have a masculine appearance she didn’t give the women at the party any play

she was a sweetheart by the way

never saw either one of them again

Boston1775 @ 162

before I leave for work, this happened yesterday:

tiny seventh grade boy, brown curly hair, harry potter glasses, doing rubics cube:

I’m dreading the weekend.
Why? I ask.
My parents have decided I have post nasal drip.
What does that have to do with the weekend?
I’m gonna have it all weekend.

“post nasal drip”

this is a new cereal…very tasty and Kellogg’s is gonna try to copy the recipe

and cap’n crunch was arrested today, they think he is the cereal killer

true

Zexelus @ 163

Who is the singer in yesterday’s youtube, doing “I can’t stand the rain”. It’s not Ann peebles…I really want to know???

Grace Jones? just click several times on the youtube and it will open in a new tab/window with the full info.

G’ morning all from the always Blue (well except for governor) Bay State.
Fisa and the debate have eclipsed another important new developments,leaving aside much ado about celebrity and innocent until proven guilty baseball players.

–5 new nominations from Deputy AG to Associates and Assistants AND

–release of the IG Fine (AGAG’s potential indictor) on the sorry state of the DOJ.

I am on deadline and cannot indulge in thread review, so could nightowls and early risers (E***D Teller, what time is it in Alaska when you join us?) bring me/us up to speed.

Or if the topic is new, get us started on it.

I am sure Loosehead Prop will soon be explaining it, but I admit to being impatient to know if they are sameold sameold, or show a glimmer of hope for the rule of law.

And on the subject of nominations, what’s the latest word on keeping congress in session through pro-formas to avoid recess nominations?

Be back after the tea is made and the dead wood papers taken out of rain, cause its may not be raining in Georgia, but it sure is here.

Eureka Springs @ 167

Zexelus @ 163

Who is the singer in yesterday’s youtube, doing “I can’t stand the rain”. It’s not Ann peebles…I really want to know???

Grace Jones? just click several times on the youtube and it will open in a new tab/window with the full info.

Good Morning Eureka, you’re sure up early!

Boston1775 @ 162

before I leave for work, this happened yesterday:

tiny seventh grade boy, brown curly hair, harry potter glasses, doing rubics cube:

I’m dreading the weekend.
Why? I ask.
My parents have decided I have post nasal drip.
What does that have to do with the weekend?
I’m gonna have it all weekend.

we are officially out of kansas toto!!!

All children with post nasal drip will please line up to the left of the punch bowl to be served by miss andrews.

oddly enough kuchinich came in 2nd in the daily kos ‘winners of debate’ poll.

great site but man that place sometimes feels like the white bread capitol of Homogenizinia.

Elliott @ 170

Good Morning Eureka, you’re sure up early!

Good mornin’. Yes I am, much to my surprise.

I just heard that Diane Feinstein voted AGAINST Telecom immunity.

We Rock.

Smgumby @ 174

I just heard that Diane Feinstein voted AGAINST Telecom immunity.

We Rock.

YAY!!

morning all.

Smgumby @ 174

I just heard that Diane Feinstein voted AGAINST Telecom immunity.

We Rock.

I, daresay, bloggers had a positive effect on that vote. But I won’t relax until a decent bill is passed. Otherwise, it’s all just another exercise in appeasing us with no real change.
I wonder if Schumer is getting the message.

TexBetsy @ 176

morning all.

You’re up early. Everything okay?

Scarecrow’s upstairs

New thread…

I just have to right a wrong here. I’ll admit upfront that I was never really a fan of Grace back in the 80s, and I am sure that this song is entertaining for her fans, but it is a cover of another band, and a pretty poor cover at that.

This song was originally written and performed by an obscure band called Flash and the Pan. They had a minor hit, “Hey St. Peter”, that shows up a lot in retro 80s collections. Their rendition is a much more minimalist, somber, serious and heartfelt one than this. (yes I am a big fan of FATP). I think everyone would appreciate hearing the original, IMHO. Just want to give credit where it is due.