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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/15/democrats-roll-the-dice-debate-in-vegas/#comment-1099491</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Taylor Marsh said at one point Edwards was booed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Was there a concerted Clinton campaign effort to make him look bad? What’s up with that?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does this mean Hillary really CAN’T take the heat?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taylor Marsh said at one point Edwards was booed.</p>
<p>Was there a concerted Clinton campaign effort to make him look bad? What’s up with that?</p>
<p>Does this mean Hillary really CAN’T take the heat?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/15/democrats-roll-the-dice-debate-in-vegas/#comment-1099460</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098830&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;KensUSA @ 152&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098810&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dakine01 @ 134&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
The reality is, if Harry Truman or JFK or RFK were running in today’s environment, THEY wouldn’t be Harry Truman, JFK, or, RFK as we knew them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;… You make a good point about Truman, RFK and JFK… they would probably be Republicans today based on their views on Communism…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Republicans? Hardly. Truman wanted universal health care. Republicans have fought forever against that. JFK, well read his speeches fer God’s sake. RFK started out as a tough guy, but then softened and became a real populist. I think that’s part of what we’re seeing with Edwards, but for slightly different reasons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;None of those guys were slimeballs like Nixon, Bush, Cheney, Rove, et al.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1098830"><em>KensUSA @ 152</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1098810"><em>dakine01 @ 134</em></a></p>
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The reality is, if Harry Truman or JFK or RFK were running in today’s environment, THEY wouldn’t be Harry Truman, JFK, or, RFK as we knew them.</p>
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<p>… You make a good point about Truman, RFK and JFK… they would probably be Republicans today based on their views on Communism…</p>
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<p>Republicans? Hardly. Truman wanted universal health care. Republicans have fought forever against that. JFK, well read his speeches fer God’s sake. RFK started out as a tough guy, but then softened and became a real populist. I think that’s part of what we’re seeing with Edwards, but for slightly different reasons.</p>
<p>None of those guys were slimeballs like Nixon, Bush, Cheney, Rove, et al.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/15/democrats-roll-the-dice-debate-in-vegas/#comment-1099411</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098709&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 37&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
Clinton reminds obama that she workd on childrens’ healthcare in 1997. Obama’s plan does not cover everone. …
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Funny! She failed in ‘97 and his doesn’t offer universal coverage now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds like a good argument to ignore them and vote for Edwards.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1098709"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 37</em></a></p>
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Clinton reminds obama that she workd on childrens’ healthcare in 1997. Obama’s plan does not cover everone. …
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<p>Funny! She failed in ‘97 and his doesn’t offer universal coverage now.</p>
<p>Sounds like a good argument to ignore them and vote for Edwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Mabel&#8217;s Wig Shack</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/15/democrats-roll-the-dice-debate-in-vegas/#comment-1099093</link>
		<dc:creator>Mabel&#8217;s Wig Shack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1099049&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;nogo war @ 209&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Question to Dennis on why he voted against The Patriot Act..&lt;br /&gt;
“I read it”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;smart dude.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1099049"><em>nogo war @ 209</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Question to Dennis on why he voted against The Patriot Act..<br />
“I read it”</p>
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<p>smart dude.</p>
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		<title>By: SunnyNobility</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunnyNobility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098853&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;AZ Matt @ 175&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT but of interest:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1115atty-az1115-ON.html&quot;&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush makes nomination for Arizona’s U.S. attorney post&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Associated Press&lt;br /&gt;
Nov. 15, 2007 06:18 PM &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Doesn’t his new AG even get consulted?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;President Bush on Thursday nominated Diane J. Humetewa, a member of the Hopi Indian tribe, to serve as the next U.S. attorney for Arizona.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the U.S. Senate confirms the nomination, Humetewa would fill the position that was vacated by U.S. Attorney Paul Charlton, one of eight U.S. attorneys fired nationwide in a Justice Department purge.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1098853"><em>AZ Matt @ 175</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT but of interest:<a href="http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1115atty-az1115-ON.html">LINK</a></p>
<blockquote><p><b>Bush makes nomination for Arizona’s U.S. attorney post</b><br />
Associated Press<br />
Nov. 15, 2007 06:18 PM </p>
<p>Doesn’t his new AG even get consulted?</p>
<p>President Bush on Thursday nominated Diane J. Humetewa, a member of the Hopi Indian tribe, to serve as the next U.S. attorney for Arizona.</p>
<p>If the U.S. Senate confirms the nomination, Humetewa would fill the position that was vacated by U.S. Attorney Paul Charlton, one of eight U.S. attorneys fired nationwide in a Justice Department purge.</p>
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		<title>By: nogo war</title>
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		<dc:creator>nogo war</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Question to Dennis on why he voted against The Patriot Act..&lt;br /&gt;
“I read it”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question to Dennis on why he voted against The Patriot Act..<br />
“I read it”</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098876&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 195&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098869&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 189&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loo Hoo or anyone who knows Hillary’s people … Hillary needs a “mantra” to remain centered/grounded and I’d be glad to help them in this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks, email me?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;K, I’ll do so after the debate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1098876"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 195</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1098869"><em>Petrocelli @ 189</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Loo Hoo or anyone who knows Hillary’s people … Hillary needs a “mantra” to remain centered/grounded and I’d be glad to help them in this.</p>
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<p>Thanks, email me?</p>
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<p>K, I’ll do so after the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098879&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;CTuttle @ 197&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098869&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 189&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loo Hoo or anyone who knows Hillary’s people … Hillary needs a “mantra” to remain centered/grounded and I’d be glad to help them in this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Aiding and abetting the enemy?  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you had asked me at the beginning of the campaign whether Hillary’s strategy would have her ahead of the pack, I would have said no … but she is and if I can help any of them with my knowledge, I’d be glad to do so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1098879"><em>CTuttle @ 197</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1098869"><em>Petrocelli @ 189</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Loo Hoo or anyone who knows Hillary’s people … Hillary needs a “mantra” to remain centered/grounded and I’d be glad to help them in this.</p>
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<p>Aiding and abetting the enemy?  ;-)</p>
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<p>If you had asked me at the beginning of the campaign whether Hillary’s strategy would have her ahead of the pack, I would have said no … but she is and if I can help any of them with my knowledge, I’d be glad to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098883&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Badwater @ 201&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098862&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 184&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;dk just hit on my hesitation with edwards… i love what he says about trade now - but when he was in the senate, i don’t think voted the way he talks now… (or am wrong about that?)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps he’s changed.  These days, there’s an idea that no candidate should ever change a position on anything ever.  If a position changes, then that’s something suspicious.  That’s simply not a normal idea.  That’s not a thinking candidate.  That is Bush.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;oh, i agree - see my new found respect for gore.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but edwards explains his pro-worker stance as a something that came from growing up in a working-class family… if he had an explanation for his (apparent - i could be wrong about this) change on trade, etc… well, i’d feel more comfortable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i did read that stiglitz was advising edwards - i think that’s a good thing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1098883"><em>Badwater @ 201</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1098862"><em>selise @ 184</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>dk just hit on my hesitation with edwards… i love what he says about trade now &#8211; but when he was in the senate, i don’t think voted the way he talks now… (or am wrong about that?)</p>
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<p>Perhaps he’s changed.  These days, there’s an idea that no candidate should ever change a position on anything ever.  If a position changes, then that’s something suspicious.  That’s simply not a normal idea.  That’s not a thinking candidate.  That is Bush.</p>
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<p>oh, i agree &#8211; see my new found respect for gore.</p>
<p>but edwards explains his pro-worker stance as a something that came from growing up in a working-class family… if he had an explanation for his (apparent &#8211; i could be wrong about this) change on trade, etc… well, i’d feel more comfortable.</p>
<p>i did read that stiglitz was advising edwards &#8211; i think that’s a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: greenwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1098728&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;David Ehrenstein @ 54&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am so sick of this whole thing. I loathe and despise every single one of them. They’re all worthless trash, prepresenting no one but the corporations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/ennuipoet/2008rnc.jpg&quot;&gt;As for the RNC –&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;awesome graphic.  is it getting a lot of play?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1098728"><em>David Ehrenstein @ 54</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I am so sick of this whole thing. I loathe and despise every single one of them. They’re all worthless trash, prepresenting no one but the corporations.</p>
<p><a href="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/ennuipoet/2008rnc.jpg">As for the RNC –</a></p>
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<p>awesome graphic.  is it getting a lot of play?</p>
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