Bridge too far, indeed. Via Jon Swift:
I always thought that people who play Bridge, a needlessly complicated card game, were harmless enough, though they certainly could be making better use of their time. But I had no idea that that the world of competitive Bridge was a hotbed of anti-American feeling. Last month at the world Bridge championships in Shanghai a team of women representing the United States did something shocking when they went up to the dais to receive the Venice Cup, the award for the best women’s team. One of their members held up a hand-lettered sign that said “We Did Not Vote for Bush.” This act, which has led some bridge players to accuse the women of “treason” and “sedition,”….The team’s nonplaying captain Gail Greenberg claims, “There was a lot of anti-Bush feeling, questioning of our Iraq policy and about torture,” at the tournament and calls her team’s action “a moment of levity,” but there is nothing funny about treason.
“This isn’t a free-speech issue,” explains Jan Martel, president of the United States Bridge Federation, commenting on what the organization refers to as the “Shanghai Incident.” “There isn’t any question that private organizations can control the speech of people who represent them.” A statement released by the USBF reiterates, “This situation is not about free speech; it is about determining whether the USBF has a responsibility to its membership to impose sanctions on those who have acted contrary to the best interests of the organization and its members.”
The United States Bridge Federation has an excellent opportunity to show the world what America stands for by punishing these women. Some people have the wrong idea about what the Bill of Rights really means. In America you have freedom of expression as long as a private organization doesn’t own your expression. Peaceful protests are fine as long as they don’t embarrass organizations that depend on corporate sponsorship and take place on American soil behind police barricades where they can be videotaped for future use in any trials that might arise….
More from the NYTimes.
…”Freedom to express dissent against our leaders has traditionally been a core American value,” she wrote by e-mail. “Unfortunately, the Bush brand of patriotism, where criticizing Bush means you are a traitor, seems to have penetrated a significant minority of U.S. bridge players.”…
By all means, don’t make fun of the President…the WSJ says that’s unamerican (unless of course the President is a Democrat, in which case have at it…IOKIYAR in action). (H/T Glenn) Because, heaven forbid, anyone should actually stop to think about why at an international bridge tournament the topic of conversation with the American Women’s National team should be — over and over — “a lot of anti-Bush feeling, questioning of our Iraq policy and about torture.” Because that might actually lead people to consider just how low the reputation of the US has sunk.
And then they might actually get up off their couches, go en masse to public meetings and demand more thoughtful policies from their government. (H/T brendan) Oh, the horror — US voters speaking up for better government. Is it me, or can you hear the gears of the wurlitzer revving up…
PS — Please keeps those FAXes and calls going on FISA, gang. I’m hearing that some extra pressure on Whitehouse, Schumer, Feinstein, Specter, Graham, and Grassley would be useful. Thanks so much for all the effort — it is much appreciated!
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zed?
day-yum y’alls quick
Pure luck, just got out of the shower and checked FDL.
OT..FISA? Whitehouse needs extra pressure? WTF?? Reading that list reminded me of the test question..which one doesn’t belong.
do-si-do:
What happened with the zed? I thought you were waiting to pounce…*g*
I knew there must be another reason I prefer whist…
Oh man, BillO may just ignore Christmas for this story.
Re: bridge women as traitors:
Echoes of The Dixie Chicks: “We’re ashamed Bush is also from Texas.”
Bridge Over Troubled Water (Aretha on youtube)
Steve-AR at 5 — He is also on the intel committee and voted for the bill coming out of there which included telecom immunity. And he’s been less than responsive to requests for specifics (ask selise who has tried repeatedly). Just giving you the list of pressure points as I’m hearing them from a number of sources today.
Steve-AR @ 5
Schumer needs extra pressure? WTF?
U.S. Bridge Federation president email: [email address removed]
Get to work, firepups.
[RBG Note; this might be a better way to contact USBF.]
A Bridge too Far…this is pretty tame compared to the Black Panthers at the Olympics.
The “bridge thing” has struck a nerve..it is starting to catch fire on the net.
Biodun @ 6
fiddlesticks! I kept waiting and then I went all zen on myself to let it go while I looked up the really boring terms used in bridge…phooey.
I guess some people feel we sign away our freedom of speech when we join any organization.
Good Nazis, every one.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 11
I understand why he is on the list..The WTF was I don’t understand “the why” he needs to be one the list. Very odd.
Jeebus, how treasonous can it be to say you didn’t vote for someone?
Steve-AR @ 15
Anything it takes to draw attention to our house of cards.
Re: treason charges criticizing Chimpy:
Bush is the civilian Commander-in-Chief of the US military. He is not the Commander-in-Chief of Americans. This distinction is often lost to many.
itwasntme @ 17
ding. you don’t speak for yourself, you speak for our sponsors.
DCCC Gang rides again…
Democrats Pushed to Raise `Breathtaking’ $154 Million for Party
Talkin’ turkey…
Biodun @ 21
This one drives me batshit nuts. Where do they get this drivel from?
After his post-gang-of-four political revival, Deng Xiaopeng’s highest official post was head of the Party committee for the military. He was never premier or president of China; however, he was honorary president of the Chinese Bridge League.
I’m waiting for Omar Sharif to weigh in on this – shoot – he’s from Egypt and if memory serves, writes a bridge column.
Way OT..but the Gitmo manual has been leaked and is on line…Jeralyn has a link to the PDF, is interested.
talkleft
The email I sent to the USBF prez said that they should have been embarrassed if the trophy were awarded to someone who DID vote for W. Here’s the email again: [email address removed]
[RBG Note; this might be a better way to contact USBF.]
With a h/t to HB, who responded to my post at tpm:
Remember, you must toe the Party Line (The Bridge Party Line).
Having been a competitive athlete in an international venue, I can say that there are certain rules you agree to by your nation’s governing sports body when you travel to compete. Even though bridge is a card game, there clearly is a national organization that dictates the code of conduct. Holding up that sign was likely in violation of that code, so some punishment actually is merited.
Recall the 1968 Olympics moment of protest by Tommie Smith and John Carlos. What they did was in violation of the US Olympic team rules, and they were suspended. It didn’t mean it wasn’t right, or worth doing. But actions have consequences.
Regardless, clearly the reason this is garnishing the attention it is is because Bush is a failure, and openly criticizing him is just another reminder for those on the right how bad he is. They don’t really hate people who don’t like Bush, they hate being reminded they back such a monumental loser.
Tommy Smith and John Carlos at the Olympics in Mexico City 1968: Black Power salute while receiving their medals at the ceremony.
There comes a time when allegiance to the truth is far more important than allegiance to the rules of any group.
This issue is going to catch fire. As well it should!
Another OT..but Rep. Elijah Cummings has really turned over a rock..”Cookie” ain’t looking so good..TPM is following the action.
And Natalie Maines sings:
“Fuck you, United States Bridge Federation!”
:o)
Wait just a doggone minute. What the sign said was NOT, “Bush Lied About the War” or “George Bush is a War Criminal”, nor did it cast any aspersions on Bush and Cheney’s characters (personal or public), and so on. All it said was that the members of the team had not voted for Bush.
And for THAT, the organization sanctioned them? I’m sorry, but that is just stupid. if they’d ignored it, the whole thing would have disappeared; now it’s all over the place and in my mind, makes the organization look like another bunch of people who are hiding under the covers because of the monster under the bed.
Puppethead — Good points, all — I tried to find the by-laws and/or rules for the Bridge Federation online, but was only able to do a realy quick search because The Peanut is still home sick. (It has been one of those weeks here…) If anyone finds them and can find the pertinent sections on public expressions, etc., I’d love to know what they say exactly.
We’re working on a nap, here, so I’m in and out a little bit — but I’ll check comments as I can in case anyone finds something relevent. Thanks much…
Toby @ 36. Thanks for giving me a chuckle!
puppethead @ 30
Oh, quite.
But it’s not treason by the widest stretch of a blinkered imagination…
So people expect that all Americans on all American teams at international meets would vote for Bush? All of them?
Quite moronic.
I think the point that the bridge players were trying to make is that, indeed, our reputation has sunk to a brand-new low.
Several of my friends have traveled overseas, and when they tell the locals they’re American, they’ve been subjected to some very stern lectures. But then they tell them they didn’t vote for Bush, everything gets smoothed over quickly.
Very similar situation to what’s posted at Americablog…
I think we should start a contest to re use their abbreviation USBF.
I can think of a few things all ready that aren’t fit to print.
And remember, now that we know Omar Sharif is of Egyptian origin, plays exceptional bridge, writes on the subject, and of course, is a terrorist, we won’t be able to watch Dr. Zhivago any longer, and he must move in with Cat Stevens on the terrawrist isle of britain.
I am writing a letter to god right now and it is going to be pretty stern, dern it.
Last OT, I promise, but:
Romney Catches Up With Rudy In New National Poll!
TPM
Hillary vs Mitt for Pres…The fundies won’t know whether to “shit or go blind”.
I was just in europe, and eventually about every conversation I had came to focus on what was wrong with america, why Bush seems to be an idiot, and how disappointed, disgusted and worried people were.
I spent a lot of time apologizing, explaining that we’re not all like that, that people are trying to improve things, and we deserve some time and understanding to put things right.
These were average people, in small towns and cities, the simple and the educated. They were reacting the same way you would if a dear friend just had a massive personality change brought on by an undiagnosed brain tumor. They’ll put up with it for a while, but eventually to protect themselves and to protect you, they will do something about it.
I think the bridge club had spent a lot of time explaining themselves and trying to account for America’s recent behavior.
Can we put the Women’s Bridge Team in charge of the FISA bill decision? They seem so much more American than the Judiciary Committee. Or maybe we need to lean on the Committee’s corporate sponsors?
Biodun @ 37
so now merely poking fun at shrub is treasonable? I thought you had to criticize his war or Bill O’Really to earn that particular moniker.
meanwhile, back in lalaland, former shrub advisor MaDo suffers “anguish” for having enabled his shrubishness. I feel so very bad for him…
http://www.latimes.com/news/pr…..-frontpage
oldtree @ 42
“Useless Stinking Bully Fuckwads?”
Kevin at 45 — You made me spew my tea… (the committee’s corporate sponsors is what did it, in case you were wondering…SIGH)
ALL HAIL THE REVOLUTION! THE REVOLUTION WILL BE LED BY…
bridge players?
Jesus, looks like I’ll be drinking before noon. Again.
All of us belong to some organizations. So it sounds like the far right would simply “take over” by taking over just about all organizations and then branding any one of us as a traitor for exercising our First Amendment Rights. Where have we come to when an organization can abrogate our rights under the Constitution?
peanutbutter @ 39
Of course not. Unless America is a totalitarian state like the USSR, Communist China, North Korea, Libya, etc. Only governments who need to control the actions of their people would consider it such.
Oh God, and just think what might happen at the World Bingo Championships being held next month if those people get a chance to mouth off.
The horror!
Biodun @ 31
Thanks Biodun, I misspoke when I wrote Black Panthers…sheesh! just slap me.
peanutbutter @ 36
Hell, it might not even be sedition…
Biodun @ 31
And what that says is that “I am an American and I can participate in civil protest anytime, anyplace because I am free!” Any abridgment of this, I think, is unamerican. Those that are crying foul should better be proud of this demonstration of the strength of our Democracy, instead of trying to pretend there is no dissent in our society. The fact that we are ready, willing, and able to express that dissent should be perceived as speaking well of us.
Let’s see now – we now have the US Women’s Bridge Team on the “traitors list” – what about political cartoonists? What about Gary Trudeau(shoot, I’m sure he’s been on the list since before Watergate)?
Do we all have to bow down, salute, and express undying fealty to der Feuhrer and his minions?
Wait a minute – last time I looked, this country was still the United States – or did I spend too long in the ladies room?
Re: 40:
Correx: …would have voted for Bush.
Blender @ 52
I can hardly wait!
I think that free speech trumps the Bridge Federation’s rather weak hand in this. They would have been better served by trying to finesse the situation by ignoring it instead they lost their bid to appear above the fray and do something that practically invites them to be slammed. North, south, east, west, you could not find a bigger set of dummies.
Toby Wollin @ 55
No, you were just thinking in the wrong head…
Photo of the ladies holding sign @ Wonkette.
http://wonkette.com/politics/swift_bridging/
ah.. now the bridgemeisters have spoken
“While I believe in the right to free speech, to me that doesn’t give anyone the right to criticize one’s leader at a foreign venue in a totally nonpolitical event,” he [Bridge board member Robert Wolff] wrote by e-mail.
http://www.iht.com/articles/20…..rotest.php
So just how DO these people define free speech? So free speech = good, criticising the LEADER = illegal?
TheraP @ 57
I can just see them banging on tables with their Bingo Dot Markers
Paper Ballots! Paper Ballots!
As anyone who has ever played bridge can tell you, it’s a game filled with secret codes and signals. You’ve got conventions, coups, finesses, forces, slams, and trump*, just to name a few.
Beware the bridge players! (Or at least make sure they’re on your side.)
[Long before there was The Donald, there was Bridge — and long after The Donald is gone, there will still be bridge.]
speaking of which.. whatever happened to those high school honor students who dared to hand shrub a letter at their WH recepton, asking him to stop torturing people? Have th ey completed their reeducation at gitmo? :P
Hugh @ 58
Sounds like a grand slam to me, Hugh.
how bizarre, the republicans want to show just how depraved the administration is by sanctioning American’s who speak against the administration
how idiotic can a person get, they are trying to breed even more contempt for our government by showing the world Americans cannot say what they feel
Christy:
(And note: puppethead)
The USBF does not yet have a Code of Conduct for International Competition. That’s why you haven’t been able to find it. From its website:
My bold.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 36
This is from the NYT article via TheraP in previous thread. Hope it helps.
Blub @ 64
Read your Camp Delta Standards here:
https://secure.wikileaks.org/leak/gitmo-sop.pdf
think progress has this and I want to know how my bold is possible and why isn’t this a crime;
how could that possibly NOT be a crime, to slip something into a bill that nobody who voted for the bill knew was there
I think someone needs to go to jail for that
Jeez,
It’s the Dixie Chicks effect all over agin. Funny how it’s women the right loves to muzzle, isn’t it?
looseheadprop @ 71
Always – we’re scary..that we are..
perris @ 70
The concept of Coburn in jail has a distinct appeal to it, but alas, sneaking slimy things into legislation is a time-honored tradition in our legislative branch… Unfortunately, our current crop of Dems haven’t figured out how to do it.
Blub @ 64
The nerve of some people!
High school honor students, female bridge players, foul-mouthed . . . etc. etc….
Why, it’s enough to make one ashamed of the Homeland.
Bridge? sounds like a trivial pursuit to me …..
Peterr @ 63
Yep, definitely drinking before noon today. Has anyone checked to see if this is on LGF or Drudge yet? They’ll crap their diapers when they see it.
neokneme @ 23
Is it any wonder why Pelosi and Co. don’t have any brass ones? They are being bought off.
I do find it amusing that the bridge players call shrub “Our Leader”.. has a distinctly North Korean ring to it, I think. Dear Leader, Our Leader… I think the rethugs need to make giant posters of Our Leader complete with appropriately Teutonic lettering, and slap ‘em up everywhere, just in case anybody doesn’t know any better.
Hugh @ 58
Sir! i believe you just ran the table!
Diane @ 60
Love that photo! Classic!
Well here’s some trivia. The same bridge expert Danny Kleinman quoted in the NYT article also wrote a wonkish essay about what would happen if we did away with the electoral college.
Those of you into game theory, bridge and politics–enjoy!
A System of Voting by a Master Bridge Player
And this is rather lame, coming from USBF:
(From the same link as my 68.)
Toby Wollin @ 72
I don’t know…it sounds like women muzzling other women???
shorter USBF: free speech is against the “best interests” of Americans and therefore it must be suppressed. Gee, let’s think about that one for a bit.
eCAHNomics @ 69
a hard copy should be mailed to the USBF forthwith.
Biodun @ 82
One could easily argue that the Gang of Shanghai did act in the best interests of the organization, since they were taking so much heat in an international setting. You know, outside the bubble?
do-si-do @ 83
Cutting Other Women Off At the Knees – favorite indoor sport.
Do you notice that when wingers say something isn’t the issue, it always is exactly the issue?
Toby Wollin @ 87
Catfight!
Kitt @ 78
I updated their sign a little.
From the Times article (which also has a photo):
You know, I’d like to see that last one used in other circumstances. For instance, before anyone gives the telecoms immunity for whatever illegal acts they may or may not have done at BushCo’s request, I’d like to have them write a statement like the one these women are being asked to write. And it has to be written BEFORE they get immunity.
But back to Bridge . . .
The sign makers have one thing in their favor: their hearing will be in San Francisco. I can’t wait to hear about the protests in support of their sign. This has SF Protest Hilarity written all over it. Generally, SF protests focus on a march down Market Street. Under the circumstances, though, perhaps a “bridge” protest will emerge instead.
How do we join this organization, so a bunch of us can bring a class action suit against it for trying to take away our First Amendment Rights?
I was in China in 2005 with my (adopted Chinese)son. Everywhere I went I told people that I was American and did not like Bush, and their relief was visible. My son, then six, made a lot of friends by insisting that “Bush tells lies and belongd in jail and Bush poops and pee-pees in his pants and wears children’s underwear.” I did not tell him those words – but he was a true ambassador for the free speech he could not have if still a citizen of China.
From the Contract Bridge Glossary in Peterr’s link @ 63:
(I suppose pertinent to situation in hand.)
In tech-speak this is called speaking to oneself, defining and playing by one’s own rules and routines.
do-si-do @ 89
If you recall yesterday’s discussion about the person at a recent McCain event who used the word “b**ch” to describe Sen. Hillary Clinton? That person was a woman in the audience.
TheraP @ 92
Interesting. Who was it who suggested that the entire Liberal Left should join the NRA and vote the buggers back into their spiderholes?
do-si-do @ 83
No, it sounds like corporate sponsors muzzling women. From the Times: “Ms. Martel [President of the USBF] said the action by the team, which had won the Venice Cup, the women’s title, at the Shanghai event, could cost the federation corporate sponsors.”
I can hear the phone calls now . . .
“Gosh, we’d like to keep giving you money, but if you can’t keep the little ladies in line, maybe we need to take it somewhere else.”
Peterr @ 91
I seem to remember a Critical Mass protest stopping all traffic on the GG Bridge once…not that I recommend that…
How strange really. Since the Bridge Ladies are in the Majority.
To quote myself:
My response to WSJ:
“Reasoned skepticism” is also appropriate and necessary when examining the words and actions of our government. Perhaps Mr. Berkowitz might consider applying this criterion when he accepts Bush’s claim “We do not torture” at face value.
We’ll see if they post it
Biodun @ 94
Isn’t this called propriety in Bushspeak?
Talk about cutting other women off at the knees:
Tonya Harding turned 37 a coupla days ago. Heard this from Steve Inskeep on NPR’s Morning Edition…*g*
In support of the female bridge players, all women and men should hold up their “voting record” signs and be a part of a national “truth telling” on this Friday at lunch. Noontime, just walk outside and hold up your voting record sign… Make sure you write it on paper or cardstock from home, not work…
Punishment for the truth? Simply amazing.
Code of conduct violation – mayybeee. Treason? No way, shape or form.
Republicans:
Reckless
Incompetents
Party
I feel a new bridge organization coming on. Free speechers rebelling and forming their own league. Division in the ranks. Sister against sister, mother against daughter.
It’s gonna ugly. Buy lots of bridge mix.
The comments section for this over on Wonkette is making me cry, it’s so funny.
Hugh @ 58
a grand slam Hugh, bid and made!
I was a bridge professional for many years. There are two governing bodies involved. The USBF governs team selection for world play. Then there is ACBL which runs North American tournies. Both are bloated plutocracies.
I know most of the women involved. They are fine women. I quit tournament play because of these a##holes that run the leagues. They are officious pharisees that for the most part take care of themselves in the form of great meals, hotels etc while doing nothing. Leadership is preordained. The closest comparison would be Stalins politburo.
An aside. I play bridge online in a worldwide venue. I had to put in comments that I despised my presidents rule and policy, to be able to play without being hassled. The world view of US is indeed grim.
Peterr at 91
good point!! love it. You know, these ladies are facing harsher penalties than Rumsfeld, Tenet, Rove or Condi…
Peterr @ 97
OK..here’s the deal, straight from the minutes of the board meeting:
“The USBF has good reason to believe that the ACBL’s inclination to provide financial assistance to the USBF has substantially diminished as a result of the VCW action at the medal presentation…
the Chinese government, which does not exactly have a history of sympathetic views toward political dissent, provided the bulk of financial support for both the 2007 World Championship and the 2008 World Bridge Olympiad. Certainly, other sponsors such as Generali Group and Microsoft will not view as a positive development the hijacking of events which they supported financially as forums for political expression. Again, the VCW seem to view the interests of all other parties as entirely subordinate to their own, if they take them into account at all. (my bold)
http://usbf.org/index.php?opti…..Itemid=167
In this document, it is mentioned several times that the women’s team’s behavior surrounding what they had done was the sticking point. They had not apologized. They had not offered to “make amends”. They were…uppity.
And, as you can see from the above – the fear was of losing the support of….whoopsie, the Chinese government. They were the major players in this affair. Yes, Microsoft and one other corporate sponsor were mentioned, but the “elephant in the room” is: PRC.
Who also got Yahoo to hand over emails and other info that they used to jail a dissident.
The ACBL is the American Contract Bridge League, the other slightly smaller elephant in the room.
It’s China, folks. Again.
Good going there.
I love the smell of BOYCOTT in the morning!
Anybody know who the sponsors are?
——
PS about DiFi, and her support of immunity for the telecoms; google something to the effect of … four million dollars ATT gave to the California Democratic Party (which was about a year and a half ago)
There’s nothing to see here, move along, absolutely no quid pro quo between DiFi and ATT (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)
Good quote from the Fein clip that Jill transcribed on the ny_roots list:
Biodun @ 67
If true then they have NO GROUNDS to sanction any of them, or even instigate an investigation or the “so-called incident”. And they certainly don’t have the POWER to demand an apology, or compel individuals to confess, to say they won’t do it again, or remove them from the association.
If they DO they are looking for a MAJOR LAWSUIT, methinks.
Swift Bridge Veterans For Truth in 3…2…1…
I think it is more of the governing bodies thinking that the players did not have the option of individual expression when representing the US in a world competition.
Any bets on whether the ladies are immediately placed on the no-fly list?
They are petty tyrants, and would have done better to let it go.
Bye the bye almost all are immigrant citizens
When Wangdangdoodle and I get our handy dandy “Hi! I’ve been menopausal for a while…” cards ready, all these women will have to do is to hold up one of them.
It’s frankly amazing how quickly people look away when you mention “female troubles” or menopause..hell, you become invisible.
Ladies? Want your cloak of invisibility? ;)
neokneme @ 116
They just have to play with one hand tied behind their back for the next year. Rule 327B.
Anybody for forming international associations for:
Pick-up Sticks?
Jacks?
Tic Tac Toe?
I’m willing to write up rules so the First Amendment Rules!
Ed*ard Teller @ 119
They are world champions. They would win anyway.
moondancer @ 108
Reading this comment brought home to me like a ton of bricks falling on my head that a new administration and some new policies MAY soften the world’s GOVERNMENTS’ views of us gradually over time, the fallout, in terms of how we’re perceived by the world’s PEOPLE who engage with us in venues like bridge tournaments, sporting events, etc. will be tarnished for decades as a result of Shrub’s presidency.
I won’t live to experience it, but my son, daughter and grandchildren will be its victims. In addition to having to bear the costs of our misguided war. So sad.
do-si-do @ 105
Sorta like North vs. South?
do-si-do @ 101
Shrub would never use words like propriety or impropriety. Too many syllables.
moondancer @ 121
I forgot the blindfold part…
neokneme @ 116
Hell, they may never get out of China!
OT
Don’t know if anyone here at the ‘Lake has posted a link to these great ads that are being aired in selected markets by the Center for American Progress. Go check ‘em out. They’re a terrific way to reframe Progressive and Conservative!
Kevin Hayden @ 90
LOL
Margot @ 118
That is priceless!
kdh22 @ 126
The IHT article said that the French are providing them with moral support at least. Perhaps they need to consider diplomatic asylum….
cinnamonape @ 123
The future of bridge is on the internet.
Last night I was reading a research paper on Carlos and Smith and their protest at the ‘68 Olympics. The writer was a little short on material; I’ve sent her the link to this article. Looks like her paper will get to have a “relevance to today” section to meet her length requirements.
From wiki:
My bold. Tricks and duplicates and trumps. Enuf said.
Blub @ 130
Tournament ended weeks ago. I am really proud of them for doing this. It is unique in the history of Int’l Bridge.
Bridge: the game where you pledge allegiance to bush.
There are 4 letters in bush. There are 4 suits in the deck of cards. And 4 players.
B U S H = Bridge
I guess it could be worse. The Mah Jong Federation could try to prevent people from spelling “Bush s*cks” with those plastic chits they use… and just think what kind of damage the scrabble players can do?
A Bridge Too far
It’s up at my blog now, too. I have nowhere near the traffic FDL or larger blogs have, but every little bit helps.
In the meantime, I didn’t vote for George W. Bush, either. I guess I’ll have to stop playing p*ker.
-S
~~~ModNote: Edited for content to clear filters.~~~
I’m confused. Are they traitors because they said they didn’t vote for Bush, or are they traitors because they actually didn’t vote for him? What if they really did vote for him, but now they’re saying they didn’t? Is that still treason?
I don’t get how declaring their private and personal vote publicly(The sign is about them
it does not “Criticize OUR LEADER”)has anything to do with “not representing the best interests of the USBF.” If any thing these women make bridge players look more intelligent then the stereotypical American. I am simply unable to make the leap from basically carrying a sign that says I JUMPED OVER THE CANDLE STICK when I win the geography bee to treason and sedition.What the hell is wrong with these people ??? do wingnuts get secret brownie points
when they make these accusations???
OT…Overheard at the Bush-Merkel Summit in Crawford.
BUSH: I’m now going to go feed the chancellor a hamburger. (Laughter.) Right here, Crawford, Texas. No, well, I mean back over there. Thank you all.
MERKEL: Obviously, for me, as a person who originally came from Hamburg …
BUSH: Yes.
MERKEL: … it’s even more important.
BUSH: Hamburger.Thank you.
MERKEL: Thank you.
Hardly the stuff of “Ich bin eine Berliner!” But the implications of cannibalism are right there. Fortunately Bush didn’t step into that conundrum.
BTW…Hamburgers were actually named after Hamburg, New York (not Hamburg, Germany)…and were actually called Salisbury Steaks during and right after WWI. White Castle still avoided the use of “hamburger” even as late as 1926, calling their cardboard-thin burgers “Slyders”.
Frank Probst @ 138
Perjury, not a hanging offense.
punaise @ 137
The Punmeister strikes.
Liked the Swift Bridge Veterans comment from Tom, also.
Frank Probst @ 138
They embarrassed the league officials. No one else even cared. Thats the irony. In circles of players, it was a non-event.
moondancer @ 134
I’m proud of them too. for speaking out, and for winning the tournament
cinnamonape @ 141
No doubt her handlers had to haggle with shrub’s people over “no touching” rules for their meeting
Ballerina X @ 139
From the organization’s point of view, holding up any sign at all, no matter what it said, caused a kerfuffle – and given that most of their money for this tournament and the one next year comes from the government of China, the organization got scared that the Chinese would be offended that things did not go smoothly (and unpolitically) and would pull their support. Yes, they are slightly concerned about the two corporate sponsors, but the majority of their money comes from the Contract Bridge League and for these two tournaments, the Chinese.
The sign could have said anything. It could have said, “The food made me sick here” The sign could have said, “Hi Mom”.
It would have made no difference.
Strategerie @ 138
nice post you put up!
OT via Froomkin:
Good to see that Democrats aren’t giving an inch on this. Feet, yards, miles, maybe but not an inch.
Frank Probst @ 139
They’re traitors because writing that obviously means they used Human Growth Hormones.
And since when is it treason because you didn’t vote for the president? Are we under emergency rule in Pakistan now? Lately, Musharraf has been borrowing some tricks (speaking of bridge and tricks) from the US. Should we now be borrowing a page or two from the General?
moondancer @ 134
Oh, that’s a relief…..
I think this is the first time they penalized players for anything except cheating.
Hugh @ 149
I’m sure that Mssrs Schumer and DiFi will be there to surprise and impress us with their tenacity. or something…
punaise @ 137
The bridge trophy to nowhere?
Blub @ 153
Nah…all they know how to do is give away the store.
From wiki:
I like that list. When a fan told Norma Desmond: “You used to be big in pictures.” She responded: “I’m still big. It’s the pictures that got small.”
Enuf said.
Biodun @ 151
You know Biodun, you’ll only be able to call him the General for the next couple of weeks cuz he’s surrendering his military post. Yeah, riiiiight!!!!
Biodun @ 150
W is suffering from a major case of Musharraf envy.
eCAHNomics @ 159
that’s funny, but true
Plink – got another zed.
Jane is upstairs with more thready goodness.
Biodun @ 157
Real bridge players (good players)
Omar Sharif
Rex Harrison
Eisenhower
Marx Bros
Bill Gates
Burt of burts bees
New Jane upstairs!
Writer’s Strike — Why You Should Care
An additional OT (but relevant post).
Apparently you must vote the Catholic line when in the polling booth.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..ic_bishops
And even in making decisions you can only read authorized Catholic literature…because Catholics simply can’t think for themselves it seems.
This, tied to the Catholic Church’s statement that Catholic Politicians must vote within Catholic Doctrine rather than following the wishes of all the people they represent really suggests that the Vatican, a foreign power, is imposing their own interests on the American people.
Fortunately many American Catholics are resistant to such pressures, but others are not…and it raises doubts about those individuals when they do vote lock-step with the Church. It makes one puzzle as to whether judges base their decision on the Constitution and laws fashioned by elected Representatives…or on the Catholic ideology?
Certainly if these demands had been made at the time of John F. Kennedy’s run for President he would have faced even greater scrutiny. Kennedy assured people that he would serve ALL Americans, of all creeds and religions. But such idiotic statements to control the Catholic in the political sphere is sure to backfire in so many ways.
It might even result in Catholics holding up signs saying “IWe didn’t vote for the Pope!”
Forgot Jimmy Cayne CEO of Bear Stearns
and Justice JP Stevens, both best of list except Omar.
bridge master
cinnamonape @ 164
Well, it will make the bishops more irrelevant to most of the voters than they already are. And confirm the opinions of the fundies that ‘Catholics do whatever the pope tells them to do’. (Don’t laugh, I’ve heard that one.)
TheraP @ 57
When it happens with the champions of one of those eating contests, we’ll know that even the 24 percent is turning.
What bridges? Yes, the bridges of Iraq obliterated by US money now to be rebuilt, with US money?
A 50 billion dollar business plan, which is now estimated to cost 1.3 trillion, give or take a few, billion. Has anybody thought of “Welfare for Standard Oil aka Esso of NJ, aka Exxon Mobile,” while Americans die and corporations make lots of money on the war!
The Bridge Federation can go “*hit in a hat”
Anyone who seeks to limit political speech is at odds with the constitution. Our corporate and political leaders over 30 years have done a wonderful job of securing and protecting the general welfare of America as it relates to our energy needs. We are sold swamp land in the middle of a desert. Cigarette producers and drug dealers, oil and its whores have no conscience. Like cheney laying the wreath at the tomb of the unknown, the scene
made me sick to my, freakin stomach. The hypocrisy was to much to take!!!!
Woh yes, a sign saying “We didn’t vote for Bush” is horrifying, verging on treason…
These women should be rounded up and placed in the re-education camps that BushCo is now setting up…maybe have their fingers broken so they’ll never play bridge again!
What a lot of huffing and puffing over NOTHING!
You Go Girls!!!!
Members of the U.S. Bridge Team are as follows:
Jill Levin
Jill Meyers
Debbie Rosenberg
Irina Levitina
Hansa Narasimhan
JoAnna Stansby
Gail Greenberg (Captain)
PLovering @ 171
Thanks plovering. Got a link to that site?
Bridge is needlessly complicated??
What game “needs” to be as complicated as it is?
Lindy222 at 173 — Since John Swift writes quite a bit of tongue in cheek snark, I think he was snarking a bit there as well. *g*
PLovering @ 171
oh I dunno.. there’s some furrin’ soundin’ names there. Plus religious undesirables and all. Sounds like they need to get the Regent U brain trust at Homeland Security working on this one right away. Children, husbands, relatives, co-workers all have to be disappeared an’ investigated.
Eureka Springs @ 10
just what i needed today. thanks so much eureka springs! god i love that woman! chils every time.
wonder if the bridge folks wold have objected to t shirts that disavowed bush rather than a sign. dress code?? for ridge players? de trop.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 36
Anyone wanting all the details can read this long thread on Bridge Base Forum. The short version: The issue is not that they held up an anti-Bush sign, but that they did this at the official awards banquet at the end of the World Championships. Political speech of any sort (pro- or anti-Bush or whatever) is inappropriate at such an event. That said, the US Bridge Federation has certainly made a molehill into a mountain.
newtonusr @ 172
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11…..mp;emc=rss
http://www.ishkur.com/sports/olympicmoments8.php
Sometimes the venue is all to appropriate!
Would it be outta line to make note of what a FOX the second woman from the left in the black shirt is? DANG I may have ta take up BRIDGE!
The outrage, people who did not vote for Bush. How could it be? And they admit it in public, good god! And without police barricades surrounding them as the not-so-swift Mr. Swift advocates!!! Frightening.
And without the permission of the CORPORATE SPONSORS, clearly unAmerican.
e-mailed to Jan Martel-USBF today under the subject: Censorship
” Your rebuke of the individuals involved in the Shanghai Incident is appalling and unconstitutional violation of the United States of America Bill of Rights. This is especially offensive since it shows that your organization leadership has more in common with Communist Chinese rule than American values and rights. The financial contribution I was going to make to the USBF will not be made as a result of your actions. “
I talked to one of the team, and to a member of the appeals committee. The player said it was response to weeks of incessant questioning of American foreign policy, they were embarrassed and pissed off.
The appeals guy said they got intense pressure from outside sources (non gov). Lots of conservative types in the ACBL, which is why I quit fifteen years ago.
I have a personal issues with these types of organizations. They should run the events, and leave the players alone afterwards. I understand that were embarrassed, but so what?
These women make a living playing bridge, so to be suspended is the equivalent of a years pay fine.Draconian.
do-si-do @ 19
Sounds like life under Stalin or in N. Korea.
Heckuva job Dubya!
quake @ 177
And that’s bulldada. There was no policy against any sort of expression of views of any type by the Federation in China, in International play, etc. If you think it’s inappropriate then one uses YOUR speech to tell people that it inappropriate…but one doesn’t threaten expellation, banning from tournament play, compel confessions, and basically act like authoritarian pricks.
Even threatening the members for doing something that they were never told was against policy, and WASN’T against policy, could get these directors ass*s sued. Is bullying “appropriate behavior” for the Directors?
And given that the players were constantly being pummelled about questions from other contestants…where precisely was the US Bridge Federation in all of THAT? Were they saying that harassment of their players was inappropriate? Did the Chinese government take ONE STEP to stop this in this “inappropriate venue”? If the Tournament was actually a “politics-free zone” then there should have been widespread notice given that any such conversations or attacks were inappropriate BY ALL PARTIES.
No such notice by the Chinese was given. Apparently the USBF did little to intercede to the Chinese to protect their own players. The players responded to defend themselves. They players likely thought that by showing the sign, after a week of abuse, that they would gain applause for their play, rather than boos and catcalls for misconstrued ideas of their political allegiences.
Once again the people who create the conditions for such a situation ignore their role and responsibility in what happened and “punish” illegally and inappropriately people who were simply trying to shift the awards ceremony to one of celebration. But the USBF didn’t want to hurt their relationship with the Chinese and other Federations and raise the issue of inappropriate behavior by other teams. International Bridge is stressful and one can likely expect such “trash talk” to throw the players off their game and disturb their concentration. The fact the USBF didn’t stop this is reprehensible, far more so than the sign.
cinnamonape @ 185
For most of the players on this team, playing bridge is a profession. They get hired by sponsoring players, and also play with clients throughout the year. They are the elite but if they go through with this “sentence” it is the equivalent of taking their living away.
And as far as culpability, look to the ACBL. USBF is a tiny shell, the ACBL is the driver in this, they are political and are the money people.