Camille Paglia is to writing what the guy from Bronski Beat is to singing. There was a brief moment back in the 80’s when Jimmy Somerville’s eerie countertenor was a good thing. As a distraught gay teen living in a backward southern town, I was sort of duty-bound to buy the 12″ extended single of “Smalltown Boy” and play it until the grooves wore out.
The problem of course was that over the course of Bronski Beat’s brief career (and Somerville’s subsequent venture, The Communards), the singer never made any effort to expand and explore his voice, to add any kind of depth or nuance. He seemed content to just blast away at the same four or five notes and retread the same hoary lyrical themes (You and me/one day we’ll be free, etc., etc…) interminably.
Such is the case with Camille Paglia. She had a moment somewhere back there in the first Bush presidency where she discovered that by striking a contrarian stance on women’s issues and engaging in certain specific button-pushing, attention-seeking behaviors, she could attain a kind of celebrity. That moment of relevance was mercifully brief, but no one, apparently, bothered to pass that information on to Camille.
The editors at Salon haven’t figured it out yet, either. Why do they insist on running her overwrought, under-thought ramblings?
Paglia has a column in Salon because the editors of Salon hate you.
Oh. Of course.
I decided this afternoon that I was going to write about Paglia’s latest trail of verbal cat-sick, but very nearly gave up that notion entirely when I realized that meant I was going to have to actually read it. (No! Noooooo! Anything but that!)
Nonetheless, I bravely suited up, donned a respirator and other level-4 hazmat accoutrements and waded in. It’s this or trolling MalKKKin-land for a topic and I just can’t face the bizarre and byzantine curlicues of La MalKKKin’s paranoid delusions tonight. A Theropod can only take so much.
Paglia opens her essay in flame-thrower mode, insinuating that everyone who favors a Hillary candidacy is some kind of hideously deformed emotional cripple:
Aside from the stylish Huma, there’s definitely something weird and cultish in the sycophantish cathexis onto Hillary of the many nerds, geeks and vengeful viragos who run her campaign — sometimes to her detriment, as with the recent ham-handed playing of the clichéd gender card.
Heh. Camille Paglia just called someone else “ham-handed”. (I’m sorry, Mr. Pot. Mr. Kettle isn’t here right now. You’ll have to call him black later.)
Now, I’m not much of a Hillary man, myself, but I don’t think it’s a moral or mental failing to support her. That’s just silly, and Camille’s description of the people working on the Clinton campaign (”nerds, geeks and vengeful viragos”) would do Rush Limbaugh proud.
Then, in typically tin-eared fashion, Paglia says the Democrats should be playing up Dianne Feinstein as their greatest distaff asset. With all due respect, Dr. Paglia, this is simply not the week to be singing DiFi’s praises, given her recent high-profile capitulations to the BushCo junta, the egregiousness of which has made even her long-term supporters yearn to send her off to the glue factory.
The rest of the piece is just as fatuous and wrong-headed. Paglia adopts the same tack as the Bush Administration’s paid junk scientists and denies that global climate change is anything other than a liberal fantasy, then marks the passing of Norman Mailer in typically self-congratulatory fashion:
Feminism would have been far stronger had it been able to absorb Mailer’s arguments about sex. If my own system seemed heterodox for so long, it’s because I appear to have been one of the few feminists who could appreciate and integrate all three thinkers — Mailer, Greer and Johnston.
Ah, yes, Camille. If all the proto-feminists had just been more like you, we’d be living in the post-patriarchy, now, is that it?
She drops names with the grace and elegance of a prize bullock in a game of Cow-Patty Bingo, and goes so far as to insinuate that Madonna declined to meet her back in the day because of “her uncertainties about her education (she had dropped out of college after one semester to seek fame in New York)”.
Yes, Camille, Madonna was intimidated by the mighty bonfire of your burning intellect. I’m sure it had nothing to do with the fact that the pop goddess might have been a little put off by your drooling mash-notes, much as I was put off by your essay in praise of gay men where you said you love us because we’re totally promiscuous, sex-crazed sluts. It’s like, “Uh…thanks, lady. I like you, too, because your books come in handy when I’m low on toilet paper.”
This was about the point in the article where my left eye started to go blind in self-defense.
There is apparently no topic that Paglia is too ill-informed to comment on, as the rest of her essay attests by plowing ever onward, spouting undercooked criticisms of Ellen DeGeneres, Rosie O’Donnell, and Natalie Wood. Funny, it seemed so much longer than a mere three pages.
Why was this necessary again?
Remember: Camille Paglia writes for Salon because the editors of Salon hate you.
Oh, right, right. Remind me to thank them profusely for that.
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TRex!!!
less than 10?
hiya TRex!!!!!
Wow! A 2. Not bad!
top 10
TRex!
wow, I’d completely forgotten about lil camille …
TRex – man o man, what on earth did you do to piss off the editors at Salon that the readers have to read her drivel? That is just cruel and unusual punishment or something.
Me too. She’s been off my radar for quite a while, although I remember those days in the early 90’s that TRex talks about.
I hadn’t heard that Bronski Beat song in ages either — kinda fun!
Maybe I’m just thick, but I never quite understand what the hell she’s writing about. I guess I’m just not mature or educated enough.
lee5 @ 7
I envy you with all my heart.
Hey TRex! Of course Camille thinks DiFi is the model dem. Since Feinstein is nothing more than a Vichy Dem, Bush enabling, dinosaur, what’s not to love?
madmommy @ 13
present therapods exempt of course?
Twain @ 11
Yup. If you have a problem wading through Paglia’s word salads, the problem is clearly yours, not hers. Just ask her.
OT, or not, but it is just too weird to see the whole media play about how *now* the bushies are making alternate plans to deal w/ Mushie falling in Pakistan. Now they think about supply chain to Afghanistan! Now! they think about alternatives! well, at least it’s not too late …. (grrrr)
Twain @ 11
She uses big words so that you don’t notice her questionable intellect.
Suzanne @ 14
But of course. Our therapod is the exception to every rule ;0)
Camille hon, putting big words together does not a writer make.
Nor does droning on, and on, and on.
TRex, I know this is probably un-PC and sexist, but is what Camille does called “Caterwauling”?
TRex @ 12
well, aside from being despicable, she really is pretty forgettable … just do it.
(blink)
camille who?
omigod, TRex. This was just a great post. Thank god you still have a reptilian brain, otherwise you would have not been able to translate Paglia for the rest of us.
Camille Paglia, I wondered what happened to her. When Susan Faludi was here, Paglia came to mind from the Backlash days. Looks like I haven’t missed anything for past sixteen years.
Okay, I’m going back to read. But your title made me want to hook up to the Beatles.
TRex, Paglia’s endorsement of DiFi reminds me of this drivel…
Joe Lieberman, patriot
By Cal Thomas
“This will probably kill his career, but I rise to praise Sen. Joe Lieberman, the independent Democrat from Connecticut.”
I loved the Communards when I was in high school!
Camilla and Dennis Miller should have a show on Pox News.
TRex would have a treasure trove of material each and every night. No more worries about finding a topic when you have that show in your back pocket.
Much to my pleasure, I have never read anything this person wrote (or should I say spewed?) other than what is quoted in TRex’s post above.
I shall aim to keep it that way.
CTuttle @ 24
well, if Cal likes him, maybe the lier isn’t so bad after all (rolls eyes)
Valley Girl @ 21
I speak Parse-ill tongue.
It is a shame to waste such a lyrical name. I was thinking how operatic it is, but then that caterwauling comment came into my mind and all the dissonance drowned it out.
neurophius @ 27
me too!
but i love the name camille. sounds so pretty
I am really kind of hoping that the GOP presidential candidate will follow Bill “The Pistol” Kristol’s advice and make Lyin’ Joe Lieberman their running-mate. I would get SO MUCH mileage out of that as a satirist. It would be beautiful, in the way that a double compound fracture of the tibia and fibula is beautiful to an orthopedist.
Gnome de Plume @ 30
When I think of the name Camille all I see is death and destruction. Same with Katrina.
TRex @ 29
Reading the link, that seems to be a very rare ability, TRex. Entirely confirms my opinion of you as a rare speaker of subtle and not so subtle truths. xxoo
SnarKassandra @ 31
She has certainly given it a tarnish, though.
TRex @ 32
omg…but it would provide tons of fodder for you!
Cassandra’s kinda a dumb name. I am going to change it when I am older.
This is one of her Top Ten Movie Quotes: 10. Mommie Dearest (1981) At a compulsory night class in aesthetics, Joan Crawford (Faye Dunaway) instructs her daughter to shun banal utilitarianism: “No wire hangers!”
Really?
(that was the most recent movie too. I guess Camille doesn’t get out much.)
Uh oh, madmommy, then you won’t like my dog. Her name is Beulah.
Dianne Feinstein is Dick Cheney with a vag*ina.
Why would Democrats ever want her to be President? She’s a war profiteer — her expertise in military matters extends to enriching her husband’s companies and herself.
This woman Paglia defies logic. Surely she threw the Feinstein crap in for the outrage she’d get in Left Blogistan….
Lea (no uh) @ 38
sheet, she didn’t even get the quote right. i always thought it was “no more wire hangers”
neurophius @ 27
What?!? You mean this doesn’t catch your fancy:
“Aside from the stylish Huma, there’s definitely something weird and cultish in the sycophantish cathexis onto Hillary of the many nerds, geeks and vengeful viragos who run her campaign”
If Mark Twain were around today, he’d be cowered in a corner, trembling from the insecurity he’d feel when faced with the pure power of Paglia.
TRex, you provide your readers a great service by alerting us what not to read.
lee5 @ 16
If I were Mushie, and I had a hundred million dollars like he does (thanks Dubya!), I think I might pack my suitcase too. There are plenty of nice places where the rich and infamous can blend in and enjoy life without risking life and limb on a daily basis.
Teddy, did you see my question at the end of the last thread? I really am trying.
I blame what’s wrong with America on G. Bush senior. Everyone who has ever had a kid knows the kid’s strengths and weaknesses. GHWB knew his kid was an asshole- but instead of threatenting him that if he ran he would tell the stories of GWB running around in Mom’s size 63 underwear- Dad let him run. He knew the kid was a freak- but he let him run anyway.
It’s all on your heads parents Bush!
Suzanne @ 41
And I believe there was an “evar!!11!!!11″ on the end of that.
Paglia and Coulter were made for each other. Paglia writes the same kind of outrageous crap that Coulter spews from her mouth.
Camille Broadell
SnarKassandra @ 37
It’s not a dumb name at all. But, it has a lot of historic baggage, some good some not so good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra
But I thought Salon was mostly left.
SnarKassandra @ 37
***
I beg to differ. Cassandra has always been one of my favorite names. Euphonious. Classy, but not stuffy. Just my two cents.
SnarKassandra @ 37
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!
I love the name Cassandra. The Prophetess.
bonkers @ 42
I had to look up 3 words in her sentence. She’s writing, but it must not be for me.
Oh no, you did not dis Jimmy Somerville. Didn’t you love that Bronski Beat gig at the Fox back in the day?
Alas, I know what you mean.
OMG, what’s that sound on the roof? Is it rain? No, just acorns tattering down. No! No! It IS raindrops. Water. Maybe that “pray up a storm” thing worked after all. Cuz we sure as hell didn’t invest in anything like infrastructure in the last few decades. Too busy not hating and developing office building after office building.
Have you noticed, even Neil Boortz is forced to remark on our water crisis? Seems he wants a government solution.
That quote of her writting was painful. I think you could teach a class on bad creative writting just by examining her recent stuff. What happened to her drugs, fame, crazy something has intoxicated her but nobody is editing her nobody is telling her No.
Which is something people do need.
In fact she reminds me of another woman without an editor a woman who still hasn’t given back her Pulitzer Prize!
Maybe Camille could write about the differnt treatment African American women like Janet Cooke get compared to Judy when they write lies and get a Pulitzer Prize.
Still can’t believe Judy is getting a movie!
hackworth @ 43
Paraguay comes to mind, maybe, Shrub will even join him in a year…
Gnome de Plume @ 39
It’s a curse of geography. Camille did serious damage to the town I was born in, Katrina took over a year of my life I can’t get back, fighting with insurance jerks. Beulah is ok, cute doggie name IMHO.
i dont need camille paglia to tell me bob dylan is a genius. seriously.
fun political cartoons. something serious tomorrow or maybe tonight.
Gnome de Plume @ 48
She reminds me more of Althouse.
SnarKassandra @ 37
Do you have another name in mind?
Clusterfuck is already planning to seperate dumb goopers from their money by giving death inducing stupid ass speeches for a half a million per when he leaves the White House. Here’s the dumb part- the goopers will pay.
I’ve got a great one. Fire Neil Boortz.
You poor, crazy mixed-up kid…That’s enough to drive one to murder.
;>)
“Aside from the stylish Huma, there’s definitely something weird and cultish in the sycophantish cathexis onto Hillary of the many nerds, geeks and vengeful viragos who run her campaign”
holey moley batman!
sycophantish cathexis makes me think of spiked catfish type creature(s)
TRex @ 61
They are both academicians. IIRC, Althouse was rather well though of until she started blogging.
SnarKassandra @ 37
Another vote for Cassandra. Hector’s sister had a bit of a tough go of it but it is a great name.
SnarKassandra @ 60
i liked the last one! made me laugh …
Salon runs a lot of bad articles. I still don’t understand why they’re running that homophobic ass Garrison Keillor, and the predictable essays Sid Blumenthal writes annoys me as well. I still haven’t recovered from their interview w/ Cass Sunstein, either; it was probably the dumbest thing I’ve read all year.
It made me think of STD’s.
Fern @ 62
a few of them.
Diana. Karina. Linda. Lilia. Mariana. Molly.
Makes me think of Pfizer.
SnarKassandra @ 37
Don’t. Even. Think. That!
Such a lovely name with a beautiful history and pedigree.
TRex @ 32
Yeah! It would be as if Unity08 had actually gone somewhere instead of being a counterfactual pipe-dream.
My daughter’s favorite dog was named Kassandra
Anne. Accordng to my daughter- Cassie was the embodiment of the wisdom of the world.
smapdi @ 54
She writes for one person, and one person only, and that would be Camille Paglia.
rwcole @ 76
Well THAT part sounds true!
Good night y’all.
TRex @ 64
We wish. For some reason I keep tuning in for the traffic reports and then can’t help hearing some stupid thing he says and yelling back at him.
Really. It’s raining.
Here is part of what Molly Ivins had to say about Paglia:
“There is one area in which I think Paglia and I would agree that politically correct feminism has produced a noticeable inequity. Nowadays, when a woman behaves in a hysterical and disagreeable fashion, we say, “Poor dear, it’s probably PMS.” Whereas, if a man behaves in a hysterical and disagreeable fashion, we say, “What an asshole.” Let me leap to correct this unfairness by saying of Paglia, Sheesh, what an asshole.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia
SnarKassandra @ 72
Lots of “i” and “a” and “r” and “l”. Softer sounds.
SnarKassandra @ 37
Oh, hells bells–you should try being named Cletus.
Cassandra is a good name. Classy.
neurophius @ 80
I love Molly Ivins! I miss her.
rwcole @ 46
He was too macho to tell the truth. He is as responsible as anyone. Almost can’t blame the stupid W. After having been a cheerleader, he had his own.
Never have understood this. Since when did America think being a cheerleader was a cool thing?
DecaturBlue @ 79
you know they are gonna say it was an answer to the prayers
DecaturBlue @ 79
I take it that’s a good thing?
I tried to follow Paglia’s train of thought back when she was on my teevee a lot, but she always ran off the rails. Figured I wasn’t smart enough to understand her, but the other people on the talk shows got as frustrated with her as I was, IIRC. Didn’t take long to figure out she was batty.
You guys want to know something funny? I predicted that Althouse would have something snippy to say about my song/video last night and she obligingly rose to the bait, but her commenters didn’t. They were all, like, “Wow. That was pretty.” with one or two half-hearted pissy ones thrown in who may or may not have been sock puppets.
TRex @ 71
No fish love…without the glove!!!
SnarKassandra @ 37
I really like it; I was into classical literature when I was younger. (Not enough to read the Illiad in the near-original Greek or anything, but still.)
Let’s hope you have something of the original Cassandra’s gift and not her curse.
madmommy @ 58
Beulah wreaked havoc in South Texas in 1967. Fortunately those ranches where The Shooter likes to shoot people took most of the hit.
Trex, we told ya it was good and you were good.
paglia and i were in agreement however when she noted that the shuttle disintegrating over texas was an ominous sign.
the type of sign a roman general long ago would have taken as a serious warning.
i thought it as i’m sure many people did and then read her thoughts on it as well.
Fern @ 86
Devastating drought conditions in Georgia and the Southeast!
neurophius @ 80
Thanks for reminding me of this. I’ve quoted that before and had forgotten about that. Damn, Molly was a genius.
We have got to honor Molly, Steve Gilliard, and others, and destroy the neocon cabal once and for all. Let’s make them proud!
ATTACKKKKK!!!!
I posted a lengthy response to Paglia’s trashing of Hillary here:
PrimaryBlue disects Paglia on Hillary
Suzanne @ 85
It couldn’t possibly have had anything to do with the front that has been moving steadily eastward for days.
DecaturBlue- are you actually in Decatur GA?
And, for you and TRex, Sonny Perdue’s prayers were not answered:
US governor’s plea to above brings no rain
Ahem, I think they meant Above, not above.
~~~”We respectfully pray up a storm,” Perdue told a crowd that gathered on Tuesday outside the Capitol, which houses the state legislature.
“It is time to appeal to Him who can and will make a difference.”
Local media received calls and mail from residents who felt the prayer ceremony violated the principle of separation of church and state, and insisted the governor should focus on better planning rather than hope for divine intervention.
“God is not an ATM machine you can go to and get whatever you need whenever you ask for it,” one reader wrote on the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s blog.~~~
TRex @ 88
Someone ran out of her favorite fighting beaujolais?
;>)
Fern @ 81
dharmamarx @ 70
I would suggest you stop reading them.
rwcole @ 46
It’s worse than that, if the rumors are to be believed. I remember hearing that Jeb was supposed to be the presidential heir, but the parents were pissed of when he married a Latino woman, and bumped idiot boy to the head of the line. (No idea if it’s actually true.)
Yay!! That means it’s coming here by morning.
Clete, I love your name. “Cletus don’t like to be touched.” (The Apple Dumpling Gang)
darkblack @ 99
The new beaujolais is being released tomorrow. She’s not very patient and is getting cranky. ;)
there certainly have been plenty of consistent rumours that it was supposed to be jeb, not dubya … hadn’t heard that particular spin on it before
It’s Raining But It’s Not Pouring
It is raining but won’t make any difference in lake levels. We’re still in a world o’ hurt. And people like Neil Boortz railing about how the Army Corps of Engineers need to fix this would be kinda funny if it wasn’t so infuriating.
Still nobody’s conserving water.
TheOtherWA @ 104
Does the beaujolais nouveau come in a box?
Cassie, don’t use Molly. My sister is named Molly and so is every Golden Retriever she has ever met. Which reminds me of a funny problem a lot of people have run into: they name their pets their favorite names and when the human child arrives, they can’t find a name they haven’t already used.
oh, p.s. DecaturBlue and Trex. Rain? It’s raining? No hint of that hereabouts.
neurophius @ 80
THank you, thank you for that, I miss Molly Ivins and it does my heart good to read her words and laugh.
I came in late and am still fixated on the previous thread: How about Howie (and everyone) going after
GrendelRahm in his lair?TRex @ 88
A Dog, eh? ‘Nuff said…
Valley Girl @ 109
okay, I just stepped outside to check. It is sorta kinda mildly raining.
LoudounLib
Hee!
Steve-AR @ 70
I like it because it has so many variations. It’ll be President Cassandra, who will be Cass or Cassie to her friends and maybe one or two people will know her as Sandy. I like names that have formal / informal / intimate variations.
Good evening dear friends. Hope all are well.
Redshift @ 102
The 1994 election loss derailed him…the marriage would have been perfect in the Rove plan for majority forever.
Valley Girl @ 113
We in Central Texas were complaining about all the rain we got this summer, but now we are bone dry. The good news is that thanks to Global Warming, the weather patterns are cycling faster and faster, so we should be out of this in six months or so.
Good luck on your rain event. I am jealous.
Gnome de Plume @ 91
I was only two, probably should have Googled. I have old 8mm movies my granny took walking around Long Beach after Camille and it is astounding to see. Yet her house, 1/2 block from the beach, only lost a few shingles. Made it through Katrina with minimal damage as well, though granny’d been long gone by then.
Valley Girl @ 109
Yes, I’m here in the “heart” of Decatur (or as I like to call it, the Berkeley of the South – I know, but it’s the best we got). I really thought it was the acorns at first, it’s been so long.
Hey! What’s for snack Betsy?
Margot @ 110
Molly is irreplaceable, but I love to re-read some of her stuff, and none more than this.
wigwam @ 111
I contributed. Spect that this will be a recurring message throughout Blogistan.
*off topic*
dangling fresh bait
The Freeway Blogger (scarlet p here at the lake) will be attending the meetup this saturday at the little cottage by the creek in the redwoods.
confirmed as attending
teddysf
egregious
newtonusr
punaise
mary mc
spurious
newspaperbrat
freeway blogger
email me at ten67x at that google mail thingie dot com if you plan on attending – directions, etc provided upon request
Valley Girl @ 113
Snowing here, in a half-hearted sort of way.
TheOtherWA @ 104
That seemed to be a bigger deal 30-40 years ago..not so much now.
DecaturBlue @ 120
We need to find a way to meet up!
lee5 @ 105
I remember when GHWB was asked about his grandchildren, and he said something about “the little brown ones”…
Gnome de Plume @ 121
Hiya Gnome!
your choice of fancy pretzels
Suzanne @ 124
Sounds like a good time will be had by all.
I am.
Redshift @ 102
Well, Bush senior did refer to Jeb’s kids as “the little brown ones”. Quite an asshole for them to have as a grandfather, eh?
Redshift @ 102
When Jeb choked against Chiles in ‘94, they went for the price on Junior.
Jeb was Poppy’s fairhaired boy, but time is of the essence when one is a-building their criminal empire under the nose of a nation.
Suzanne @ 124
Kewl, Suz! Maybe the freeway blogger can festoon the area around the little cottage by the creek in the redwoods with appropriate signage…
SnarKassandra @ 37
Hey Cassie, look here:
“Cassandra was one of the most beautiful women in the world at that time. She was also a priestess and a prophetess. Apollo had made her a prophetess because he admired her, but she later refused his advances. He then made it so no one believed her. It was she who recognized that Paris was Alexandros, lost son of Priam. She also recognized the true meaning of the Trojan horse, but no one believed her when she said the horse contained soldiers of the enemy.”
I think your name is wonderful.
TexBetsy @ 129
Ha! Those pretzels look like they want to be donuts when they grow up.
OMG, the people that hate Hillary make me like her better.
TRex @ 132
Are you bucketing?
im floored that the drought hasn’t propelled 98.98% of people to conserve diligently.
Hee hee.
Slainte, TRex.
My wife has a great story about Paglia. As an undergrad Paglia went to the university in our upstate NY small city. Later on in life in some self-serving screed or other she said that it was hard for her to be gay/bi (she’s identified as both AFAIK) in our neck of the woods “because there were just no lesbians there.”
This puzzled my wife, who is a native of this area, because, like, she knew there were lesbians here and have been for a while, because was friends with several of them. So she asked a lesbian friend of hers who was about the same age as Paglia what the deal was. The woman snorted and said, “yeah, we were here when she was around. It’s just that none of us wanted to mess around with her.”
Fern @ 136
yeah, pretzel is not the first description that springs to mind ;)
Yeah, Ann’s taxonomic skills aren’t what they should be.
Can’t blame her, though, narcissists never have pets or love any kind of animal because it requires them to care as much or more about a creature as they do themselves.
Steve-AR @ 117
That makes more sense. The only way the other made sense was if they hadn’t yet realized how politically advantageous the marriage could be, and that didn’t seem likely.
Loo Hoo. @ 123
Rahm is such an asshole, and such a sworn enemy of everything progressive that I’m astounded that he isn’t a skinhead.
neurophius @ 80
what molly said. She sums up with elegant brevity that pretentious twee pedant of vast vocabulary and null accuracy. Gawd, i mourn the loss of Molly.
TRex @ 131
The slogan, the last time we had to conserve in Ca, was “shower with a friend.”
happy cookies?
not conserving water during a drought? talk about a sense of entitlement.it’s foolhardy.
there’s a hard’
there’s a hard’
there’s a hard rain’
a gonna fall…
lee5 @ 141
I already grabbed the dark chocolate covered one — hope y’all don’t mind. Thanks Betsy!
TRex @ 131
I am too. And, I am wondering what’s in store for us. Will this be an epic disaster, or something that will look like a minor blip?
I’m not sure I can call that, or even pick a horse in the race. On the one hand, if it turns out to be an epic disaster, it just might be a really really good wake up call- global warming, failure of planning in urban areas. On the other hand, well… we’ll just have to see what happens.
Hey TRex –
Don’t be mean. She’s not 10% as good a writer as you (and on a schedule yet! Really!) but you know she’s trying. I think.
TRex @ 142
Ding! That perfectly describes one of my bosses. She has said many times that she hates (yes, hates) animals. Very strange. And I would say she’s a narcissist.
TexBetsy @ 147
Yum! Much better than pretzels! I’ll be out for a bit – taking dogs and Mr. Gnome for a walk.
Some of us don’t have pets because of allergies. Some of us collect teenagers instead.
thanks for the cookies, tex. shortbread cookies are among my favorite.
The world is your oyster, TRex
madmommy @ 132
GHW Bush, Poppy, referred to George P Bush as the little brown one (singular). Noel Bush, the sister was not thusly referenced. Noel gained fame with crack cocaine use and rehab centers.
George P Diddy Bush is an up and coming politico who is working on his chops as we speak. Shudder. Brrrrrr!!!!
Federal funding for rural religious pregnancy centers.
Think Fast
New data compiled by CREW finds that rural “pregnancy resource centers” that often offer religious content and false information have received nearly $6 million in federal grants since early 2006. Some of these centers tell patients that abortion leads to breast cancer, suicidal thoughts, alcohol and drug abuse, and even a “fear of punishment from God.”
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 145
Wow — me too! Sniff.
This talk radio host thing is more work than I imagined. I’ve already put in 8 hours work prepping for a two-hour program. Sheesh!
TexBetsy @ 148
Very cute!
My mother, in one of her less gracious attitudes, referred to Cassie & her older brother as my brother’s “little brown babies”
TexBetsy @ 158
hey just like the taliban!!!
In Defense of Women
by H. L. Mencken
“~}
hackworth @ 157
Well. Rope. Anvil.
Use as directed.
;>)
darkblack @ 165
metaphorically speaking, of course
hackworth @ 157
GP wasn’t the only one of Jeb’s kids to get in trouble over drugs, was he? The entire Bush dynasty is reprehensible but the Latina genes improved on the appearance of the kids, they are quite good looking compared to the rest of their cousins.
Ed*ard Teller @ 160
I thought you gave lectures to undergraduates. In my experience, the ratio you give may be on the low side for lectures.
Hmmm. Didn’t know George P. Bush was into politics. Never heard him speak, but apparently he’s a really good-looking guy…
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/A…..ush.young/
punaise @ 156
oops. wrong 80’s band. Frankie goes to Hollywood
Suzanne @ 166
Of course
;>)
Dang, I’ve been busted.
I actually thought I was doing a pretty good job of concealing and/or compensating for the fact that I am a hideously deformed emotional cripple.
Alas, Wise Camille has seen through my pathetic disguise.
Oh, btw, my congressman Jim Moran, who was a cosponsor of Kucinich’s Cheney impeachment resolution, sent out an online survey today about the subject. (The wording of the choices was similar to the recent poll on the subject.)
When I responded, results were running 60/40 in favor of impeachment. Yay!
TexBetsy @ 158
The House added another 22 million to the 200 million that the fundies get for sex “education”. STD’s are way up.
CD @ 169
It wouldn’t matter if he looked like Brad Pitt, no one named “George Bush” will evvuh win the Presidency again !
Evenin’ all !
TexBetsy @ 162
A friend adopted her daughter’s Hispanic/Anglo daughter.She remarked that after seeing this little girl, with a halo of dark, curly hair, big brown eyes and a cafe o’lait complexion, her daughters (of Swedish decent) seemed quite pasty in comparison.
I believe Noel Bush, Jeb daughter was arrested a few years ago for prescription fraud for Oxycontin. No jail time, just rehab.
Re: 157
Redshift @ 173
I wish Moran were my congressman…instead, I have Wolf…
CD @ 169
Yeah, that’s him, man. That fellow is gonna come on strong. He’ll need the right timing for National Politics, but he might have easy success in Florida. Dont’ get fooled agin’!
Has Congress appropriated money to sensible pregnancy & disease prevention programs? Like Planned Parenthood?
Aloha, Petro!
hiya ((( Petro )))
TexBetsy @ 162
Hrumph.
i (shudder) linked to althouse, she said “Believe me, I’m not going over that blog with a fine-tooth comb.”
Annie dear, do buy one for your hair.
TexBetsy @ 162
Your mother is George H.W. Bush?
LoudounLib @ 182
((((( LL ))))) ((( CT ))) … sorry buddy but the ladies get extra hugs … *g*
Here go Noel on crack, too.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/L…..elle.bush/
A song for all of you Georgians tonight:
Rainy Night In Georgia — Brook Benton
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 184
Sorry, I did too, and I agree — what she needs IS a fine-tooth comb.
Right, then. Time to head home. Maybe some of that “rain” stuff that falls out of the sky will fall on my head.
Trex – about your singing last night: Would it be wrong to say “You sure got a purty mouth?”
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 184
LOL !!!
Hiya NDFG ! I wanted to leave a comment there but thought better of wasting 10 seconds of my life …
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 163
And there is a similar war against women in Iraq:
BAGHDAD, 13 November 2007 (IRIN) – Male gynaecologists are being targeted by Islamic extremists in Iraq as they are accused of invading the privacy of women. Women’s NGOs have raised concerns as there are few women gynaecologists in the country and their male counterparts are scared to continue working.
“Because of the extremists’ religious views, doctors are scared to continue with their work and the number of women gynaecologists is very low and cannot meet the demand,” said Mayada Zuhair, spokeswoman for the Women’ Rights Association (WRA).
“Extremists say that [male] doctors are not allowed to see the private parts of women and two male doctors were reportedly killed last week after leaving their clinics. A message was left near their bodies saying that was the end for any doctor who insists in invading the privacy of Muslim women,” Mayada added.
(snip)
link
Petro, since we last talked I have had an epiphany: Chimay is the best beer ever!
How are ya?
hackworth @ 179
I once watched Larry King worship young George P for an hour on CNN…
Twain @ 146
If it’s yellow, let it mellow, if it’s brown, flush it down.
hackworth @ 179
***
Sure hope folks won’t be fooled again. A politician named George Bush…when it comes to name recognition, it’s heaven and hell rolled into one… :)
Mailer! Wow. I remember reading The Naked and the Dead when I was about 13. I didn’t understand…did GIs in WW2 all say “fug” instead of “fuck”? Was it all the rage back then? I didn’t know.
In the 70s I heard or read an interview with him in which he said the sex act isn’t complete for him until 9 months later when the baby is born.
I didn’t even know there were people like that. Still astounds me.
neokneme @ 164
“They come to see, and be seen”
Patrick 4/4 @ 191
I heard your song this morning, TRex … brother, you’ve got soul !
CD @ 197
He could always go with Prescott, far enough back in the foggy mists of time that most will have no idea.
madmommy @ 176
my 78-yr-old mom of norwegian-english descent has said for many decades, “it’s too bad we all can’t have more coffee ‘n cream color to our skin, nothing uglier than fish-belly white with blue veins when everyone puts on their shorts in the summer.”
LoudounLib @ 178
We’re working on that, though; Judy Feder is running again!
Redshift @ 203
Awesome. Go Judy! That is great news, Redshift, thanks!
hackworth @ 187
Yay, in rehab, I remember now.
LoudounLib @ 194
LOL !
It’s almost disrespectful to call it ‘Beer”, huh ?
I’m doing great … how about you ?
Brugge Zot beer from Belgium is fabulous, but hard to find.
black community failing?
How the myth of individualism is destroying the Black community
from Brave New Films blog
A majority of black Americans blame individual failings — not racial prejudice — for the lack of economic progress by lower-income African Americans, according to a survey released Tuesday — a significant change in attitudes from the early 1990s.
This sentence lead off an LA Times piece on class division in the Black community today. These results are not unique to Black people in this country, but they represent a dangerous trend of ignorance, selfishness, and a lack of empathy that does not paint a bright picture of the future. According to this, the “it takes a village…” proverb must be nearing obselescence.
What exactly is an individual?
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 202
I always use a self tanner in the summer. Just like with pork chops, brown fat looks much better than pasty white fat :0)
This is a Late Nite story for sure:
According to a criminal citation, a copy of which you’ll find here,, Schum, 50, was wearing fishnet stockings, fake breasts, and “all black leather” when officers discovered him “loitering in high drug trafficking and prostitution area.” The citation notes that Schum, who heads Bethlehem High School, had “no reason for why he was in alley…dressed up in women’s leather other than for prostitution.” Schum, now on paid leave from his school post, is due in court on November 27 to answer a misdemeanor charge of loitering for the intent of prostitution.
link
Petrocelli @ 192
{{{{{ petro! }}}}}}} i was slightly tempted, then i said, naahhhh!
Petrocelli @ 206
Exactly — it’s beyond beer, imo. Just divine *g*
Doing fine here too, thanks :-)
Twain @ 147
Now it’s “shower with a bucket”
madmommy @ 209
LOL
Ed*ard Teller @ 160
ET!! But, are you influencing the folks?
You didn’t tell us what was happening with the scroll of Hugh’s work yet. (Or I missed it!)
Christine Edmonson @ 207
Chimay is from Belgium as is Leffe …
Steve-AR @ 174
In response to a budget shortfall caused by the slowing economy and real estate crash, one of the things our governor is doing is cutting funding to abstinence-only education. *g*
This probably has just a little bit to do with having a new Democratic state senate that’ll back him up, but the nice official reason is that research shows it doesn’t work and leads to misinformation, so let’s not waste money on it. Hee, hee!
Off to bed for me. Good night all!
http://texbetsy.headonradionet…..for-spies/
Steve-AR @ 210
Hee hee, that is schadenfreude-ilicious.
sleep well madmom
LoudounLib @ 212
Which one(s) did you have ?
madmommy @ 209
BWAhahaha! I’ll tell my mom that next summer when she trots out her mournful coffee n cream skin complaint
g’night madmommy, sweet dreams
Petrocelli @ 215
Mr. CE loves Leffe too… and Belgium is a great place to visit, especially Brugge.
TexBetsy @ 208
There was a recent study out of Princeton Univ. that looked at the chance of being hired in a new job. The two groups were AAs and EAs. Both groups has similar qualifications except the AAs had clean law enforcement records; the EAs had all done prison or jail time. Guess who was more likely to be hired? (Sorry no link)
Petro, I had the red — that’s all that they had at my local Total Wine shop. Still on the hunt for the blue *g*
madmommy @ 209
bwahaha! i’ll pass that on to my mom
(sorry for double post, safari froze up, thought the first one was lost. appeared after emptying cache. grrr.)
Steve-AR @ 224
Interesting.
Last year, we were hiring several math teachers. I was THRILLED to be able to hire an African man to teach Algebra. Not enough educated black men as role models in the school.
LoudounLib @ 220
I assume that he is a Republican. But, I would like to know, before we start clapping hands over this.
It’s a Wrap
from TPM Josh Marshall b
Osmond family endorses Romney.
madmommy @ 218
Nite, MM!
Steve-AR @ 224
From the Atlanta Journal-constitution - “Among black home buyers making more than $100,000 a year, 41 percent got a subprime mortgage, compared with 7 percent of whites in the same income category.” full story
immigrant pup
TexBetsy @ 231
was that the event that landed marie osmond’s son into rehab? he did not wanna get on that bus?
From TRex’s favorite non-political blog..Jezebel
Photos
“Draw Envious Looks,” Carry Your Camera In A Sony TWA/T
jezebel
TexBetsy @ 234
Sorry, the link didn’t work :-(
Christine Edmonson @ 226
I highly recommend that he tries Chimay … it is as LL said, Divine …
LoudounLib @ 227
The White Cap is great as well … I thought you might like the Blue Cap because it is a dark Beer …
This is hilarious….
The “D.C. Madam” served a subpoena Tuesday on Sen. David Vitter, R-La., requiring him to testify about his use of the Washington, D.C., escort service federal prosecutors say was a prostitution ring.
TPM
LoudounLib @ 237
sorry. it’s gone.
Steve-AR @ 236
what fool decided to name it that?
Steve-AR @ 236
That’s funny!
Steve-AR @ 210, tee hee, i was going to link to Group News Blog also, but because of the Rudy article. I remember reading Lower Manhattanite’s early post on Giuliani, and thinking WOW, New Yorkers sure don’t like the guy.
Petrocelli @ 239
White Cap too?
the mind reels
CTuttle @ 240
HAH !
Can he wriggle out of it ?
The text of the supplemental that pased the House today is not yet available. However, here is the version that the Rules Committee posted (PDF):
http://www.rules.house.gov/110…..156txt.pdf
This text clarifies that the relevant portion of the AFM is “Army Field Manual FM2-22.3 Human Intelligence Collector Operations.” Here is the text of this portion of the new AFM:
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm2-22-3.pdf
Petrocelli @ 246
it Depends™
Petrocelli @ 246
I think it’ll be a tough row to hoe!
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 248
Hah! :P
give me my freedom
for as long as i be
all i ask of living
is to have no chains on me
blood sweat and tears, and when i die
CTuttle @ 249
fixed it
Good night all — got a short road trip planned for the AM. Have fun!
I just got back from hearing Naomi Wolf speak in Palo Alto. Very dynamic and inspiring, of course. One of the people in the audience said that Nancy Pelosi told Cindy Sheehan that if she got 10,000 handwritten letters demanding impeachment of Cheney that she would put it “on the table.” Here is a link to Cindy’s request to send letters to her to count: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/28617
sleep well LL
g’night LL! Sweet dreams.
Night, luvs.
Aloha, LL!
Petrocelli @ 246
we always needs linkeys:
Not So Fast, David …
~~~Vitter has acknowledged being a client of Palfrey’s company, Pamela Martin & Associates, and his telephone number appeared six times in the firm’s phone records between 1999 and 2001, when he was a member of the House of Representatives. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004.~~~
LoudounLib @ 253
G’ nite LL !
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 248
707 !!!
You’re on fire, NDFG !
So All Pups,
any advice for holiday gathering with in-laws and family members of opposite politics?
Valley Girl @ 259
Sorry, VG!
Christine Edmonson @ 262
come to my house instead
Christine Edmonson @ 262
e coli
Christine Edmonson @ 262
if an event requires kelvar and nomex, i usually find a reason to decline
smapdi @ 265
That’s evil…
TexBetsy @ 231
well, that’s a relief – the suspense had been killing me
Suzanne @ 235
Dancing with the Czars
TexBetsy @ 264
Oh heck, this Christmas is going to be very hard with in-laws. 2006 ended with acrimony. Sigh.
Christine Edmonson @ 262
… keep sharp objects hidden …
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 202
irish potato farmers take manhatten then they take berlin
CT- not to worry. I was FDL links trainer in past life. Just ask ES.
smapdi @ 265
A taser.
CTuttle @ 263
Dood, you didn’t reply to me @ 246 :-(
seriously, i will just sit there and not engage in contentious subjects and instead will turn and talk to someone near me about common memories.
stuff like when aunt edna fell into the punch trying to get uncle sam’s toupee outta the pumpkin pie
Gnome de Plume @ 17
Hi y’all. just dropping in to say “phew!” I shuddered when I saw the Paglia mentioned by none other than TRex. I was all like “am I going to have to go along with this?” and was quickly disabused of that thought. merciful.
Paglia writes essays that read like a practice SAT test but without the charm.
Petrocelli @ 271
I always have a match for any random candle – and a knife for the kitchen.
Christine Edmonson @ 262
talk about sports.
TexBetsy @ 231
Quelle suprise!
Petrocelli @ 275
Look again at 249… ;-)
Suzanne @ 276
Now THAT is hilarious!
Suzanne @ 276
toupee
pie
and
punch
Christine Edmonson @ 282
every family has a similar story – one that will get them all laughing instead of arguing
TexBetsy @ 264
I’ll be nearby. Stepdaughter is hosting, but she hates Turkey. My daughter says her sister is planning on doing a rack of lamb instead. !?? A Smithy with a Stanford MBA, but she is trying to learn how to cook . . . I may have to come to your house for some after dinner food.
rxbusa @ 254
you know, this smacks of a fairy tale called “rumplestiltskin”…
CTuttle @ 249
707 !!!
My dear, let me tell you something very valuable that my therapist showed me.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO.
NOR DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM AT YOUR HOUSE.
No one is going to send you to jail for not participating. There may be some sullenness and mild acrimony, but you are completely within your rights to spend Christmas with WHOEVER YOU WANT. WHEREVER YOU WANT!!
If they say, “Well, we don’t know how much longer so and so is going to live and blah blah guilt blah blah shame blah blah…”, then you offer to visit on a day before the day the others come.
Boundaries, baby. Healthy boundaries. Once you put a few in place with people, you start realizing that they are TEH BEST FUCKING THING EVER.
No one can force you to do anything except God and the police. And there’s some wiggle room on the cops.
Camille is one of those writers who puts the thoughts of the corner barber into polysyllabic prose — unnecessarily so when you read it — and calls it an Essay. It may be nothing more than, “them friggin’ Mexicans are drivin’ me crazy!” but she’ll find a way to say that in a paragraph. The other thing she will have to find a way to say in that paragraph will have to do with how stupid the intellectuals are, and how gifted Tony the Barber is, and how brilliant she is to recognize it. Really. That’s it. A stupid idea with lipstick on it.
TRex @ 274
“That’s one Taz-ee Turkey, mom!”
The only advice I have for dealing with tense family holiday dinners is limit the alcohol. Or don’t serve any at all. Alcohol and carving knives are not a good combo. Just sayin.
Jim H @ 289
OMG.
This is the best anyone has ever put this.
I’m printing it out and hanging it on my bathroom mirror.
Christine Edmonson @ 262
If they’re coming to your place prepare a list of non-political subjects. Put a copy of the list where everyone can see it. Then tell them that these are approved topics of conversation. The first person to talk politics has to … something awful like scrub the stove etc. If you’re going to their place or somewhere neutral try to steer the conversation away from politics and, if you can’t, I find faking an upset stomach can buy you at least 20 minutes of peace and quiet in the bathroom.
TRex @ 292
That and the SAT comment, which actually went through my mind, but I couldn’t catch it quickly enough to write it down. ;~}
TRex @ 292
I know you wouldn’t want to compliment CP in this way, but still, it could be catharic. Host a Fake Camilia Paglia Essay contest like they do for Hemingway. I mean, how hard could it be?
maybe not.
*spits all of her lime flavored sparkling water out* [you so owe me, Trex].
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!
OK. I thought she was provocative. But looks like she’s slid over into STUPID.
*stamps big ol’ scarlet letter S on paglia’s forehead*
There. That’s better.
Evening, all! Is selise around? She was looking for techie help earlier, but I was on my way out.
TRex @ 288
TRex @ 288
Thank you for the best advice, ever. I WILL pay attention. And my apologies for the double posting I see in preview and can’t delete.
Thanks TRex.
I knew I grew up in a boring family! We never had any of those problems at holiday gatherings. But then we were all Lutherans and lived in Lake Wobegon. That’s why I think I married Mr. Gnome. His family put the FUN in dysfunctional. Sort of, anyway.
TheOtherWA @ 291
With my family and friends, the opposite is true … I get them really hammered then tell them jokes
until they’re laughing/crying and hugging each other …
TREX- thank you for reiterating what I was told long ago about the holidays, by a very wise friend. And, it is completely true. xxoo
My God, TRex just saved all of us thousands of dollars in therapy AND policed the Paglia!!!
Oh dearest dino, is there nothing you can’t do?
TheOtherWA @ 291
Or drop some *more* stuff in the alcohol when it’s unavoidable, and then drag them off to a corner to sleep it off.
No, I haven’t done this, but have been SO tempted… :-P
Fortunately for me, these sorts in my family tend to be married into the family and in relatively short order become unmarried from the family. :-P
persiflage @ 293
I love this and am doing it.
Petrocelli @ 299
That’s also a canuck thing, i think Petrocelli. But they do butt heads on half a dozen other things besides politics. A family get together isn’t a family dinner without the snarkfest as added filling. *shrugs and grins* They’re canadians too, of course.
TRex @ 288
Amen.
do-si-do @ 295
It was a dark and stormy yet rigourously precipitous evening…
I am not up to cooking a turkey, but we have not been invited anywhere else. Cass & Andy will be in Dallas, so it’s just me and my son.
Gnome de Plume @ 298
Oh, then you are due for one spectacular volcanic eruption some holiday. My family used to be boring too. ;)
my family was a pit of seething turmoil.
i got as far away as i could very early and never looked back.
which is a lie. the last part.
aliasofwestgate @ 304
… waves to alias …
We don’t have any political differences in my family, but if someone brings up Hockey … *g*
OT….
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert is expected to announce Thursday on the House floor that he is retiring from Congress, a senior aide to the congressman told CNN Wednesday.
The aide said that Hastert will announce his plans to retire tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. in an address on the House floor. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office provided the floor time to the former speaker to address his colleagues.
CNN
Boo..f..ing hoo.
We don’t have any political differences in my family, but if someone brings up Hockey … *g*
the skates with heated blades now endorsed by wayne gretzky!!!
TRex @ 288
Amen! after years of on n off therapy (as i could afford it), one year at Christmas i did something dramatically different. Instead of getting into the same ol drama queen fight with my mom Christmas Day night, i stopped short about 3 min. into the argument, got my suitcase, put it in the car & drove home. I was so calm, happy, and free! Didn’t have enough time to say anything mean that i later regretted, didn’t hear enough crap from mom that would have me brooding & crying for a week.
A week later my sister (who hadn’t left) said Mom was so upset when i left, said, oh, Susie is so mad she’ll never speak to me again. Iirc, she even shed tears (which my mom nevah does). Upshot was that next day she reached out to a dear family friend who was a long-time Alanon person, & had a heart-to-heart with her. BIG change for my mom to do something like that. I think we both apologized for fight, but ever since our relationship has been much better.
do-si-do @ 286
Oh dear. I hope not, but it goes to show how hope-depleted we are. Clutching at straws…isn’t that what he spun into gold? it’s easy and cheap and I’ll send letters anyway (one to each of them because I don’t really get the send a letter to Pelosi to Sheehan first business)I’ll probably end up on a fundraiser mailing list.
Steve-AR @ 311
who’s catering?
Gnome de Plume @ 298
Well we were all Catholics, until I married a Presbyterian, and his parents think that we still have a “mixed marriage.”
Steve-AR @ 311
retiring effective now or not running for re-electon?
Just been asked to join the local chapter of Vietnam Veterans of America. I’ve never been into those organizations, but I said “Yeah, sure!” ’cause the guy who asked me runs Alaska Veterans Aviation Outreach, which does a lot of amazing things for Vets out in the bush. And he’s an amazing progressive.
Steve-AR @ 311
Who amongst the Dems will stand up and with a straight face, proclaim …”Dennis’s departure will leave a gaping void not easily filled …”
Ed*ard Teller @ 318
congrats, et
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 312
With all the problems they have with ice surfaces in the South, I can’t believe they would allow this or that The Great One would endorse them.
Suzanne @ 317
Not clear yet.
rxbusa @ 314
Oh, I’m sure you will turn the opportunity into gold! I was referring more to the Speaker’s imperious attitude that this was probably an impossible task she had given Ms. Sheehan…good luck!
TheOtherWA @ 291
Remember when the electric carving knives first appeared?
We were at my grandparents’ house in OK for Thanksgiving. One uncle cut his fingers with the knife, and had to go to the ER. Then Uncle Henry tried to show his brother (”Can you believe it? What a dummy…OW!”)how the first brother cut his finger and…I think 3 all together had to go to the ER that day.
And this was a tee-totaling bunch, or so I was always told.
Petrocelli @ 299
Newfie Jokes? ;-)
Christine Edmonson @ 303
The list or hiding in the bathroom? If you’re light-hearted about it, turn it into a fun thing the list actually works.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 306
The End, you win. Please no more!
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 313
Petrocelli’s meditation course 101 – No one can upset you without your consent … and when they realize
that they can no longer upset you, they will stop trying to do so …
TRex upstairs
CTuttle @ 325
… and then some … *g*
Ed*ard Teller @ 318
When I grow up, I wanna be as productive as ET !
God gave us all humanity- that’s why we are impossible to live with. He also gave us a sense of humor- which is the only escape from humanity.
God has a sense of humor.
Years ago, when we were first married, my husband was hired as an adjunct English professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia. He used to tell me almost unbelievable tales of this obnoxious woman who used to do things like throw popcorn at colleagues during Humanities Department meetings when she felt she wasn’t getting enough attention or didn’t care for what they said. He didn’t know her name and didn’t want to. Soon thereafter, though, Sexual Personae was published and the next thing we knew, the woman was a celebrity, the notorious Camille Paglia. Nevertheless, she continued to be obnoxious and continued to throw popcorn. It seems nothing has changed in the 17 years since I first heard of the nameless popcorn-throwing menace.
peachkfc @ 333
heh. reading a bio of robert frost with a story of another writer receiving an award and robert frost actually setting pieces of paper on fire on his desk until one of his colleagues (peers?) said, ‘oh for gods sake Robert just let him win the award.’
Thers @ 140
Back in the 90s I made it through part of the first chapter of “Sexual Personae” before I gave up, disgusted. My firm impression was that this woman could not get laid by the woman she wanted, and scorched-earth social critique was her revenge on the whole world.
NOTHIN FUNNY BOUT UNREQUITED LOVE.
NIGHT- GOTTA BRUSH THE TEETH.
Actually I read several of Paglia’s pieces when she started writing for Salon again. I think Salon is practicing very progressive policies by paying her since she obviously has no place else to shill her broken pencils. But what has struck me is that she seem’s to spend a lot of time listening to talk radio of the Hannity kind and regurgitating without any real form of analysis or critique. If you have a membership, go back and read her interview after the 2004 election where she describes Hannity’s Ruth Chriss commercials.
Hmmmmmmm:
Stop the proctologist-in-chief from looking up your asshole. Vote Democrat!
Molly Ivins, upon first dipping her toe in the cesspool otherwise known as Camille Paglia, said, “Christ, someone get this woman a vallium”.
Intellectually Ms. Paglia is about par with all the log closet queens who’ve been getting caught with their tongues out in public restrooms. The ONLY difference is she is embraced by the wingnutoshpere because she is an OUT rightwingnut lesbian while they are all CLOSETED self loathing, self hatting gays. But then, in the repug world she’s just a girl so it really doesn’t MATTER since she’s just there to be used when convenient and as window dressing. Pathetic.
I am inclined to give the Salon editors the benefit of the doubt. Paglia has a column in Salon because the editors of Salon LOST A BET. Just like Chris Matthiews at MSNBC.