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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1095585</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Which Presidential Candidate &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/22/AR2007042201339.html&quot;&gt;Works With A Hedge Fund?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which Presidential Candidate <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/22/AR2007042201339.html">Works With A Hedge Fund?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1094399</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent stuff, Christy!   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we can’t get a big turnout for our side this year, then I don’t know when we can.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent stuff, Christy!   </p>
<p>If we can’t get a big turnout for our side this year, then I don’t know when we can.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1094297</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1094238&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;nomolos @ 39&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1094230&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ann in AZ @ 37&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I believe if having the first viable female candidate for President on the ballot doesn’t get women to the polls, nothing will.  That may be good or bad, depending on your perspective.  But many more women should show up at least.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This may well be true but not necessarily to vote for HRC.  A lot of women, this house knows, in NH are pretty negative about HRC many saying that having a bad woman candidates is worse than no woman candidate.  For instance would you vote for Maggie Thatcher?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think a fair number of those that the MSM poll system counts as voters for HRC are actually supporters of a woman candidate but not HRC.  Frankly I doubt whether she will win in NH.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You said exactly what I meant.  Whether you like Hillary or not, women are more likely to vote, some for her, some against her.  It is kind of odd that older women her own age seem to be against her, whereas younger single women tend to like her.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What tees me off is that the media believe that older women don’t like Hillary because she “stood by her man” and we’re all such women’s libbers that we hate her for it.  I don’t know about anyone else, so I can’t speak for all the women my age, but I know that her and Bill’s relationship really doesn’t enter into my judgment of her at all.  I’m not fond of her policies. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Originally I didn’t think she was electable, and even if she is, her stand on Iraq is a total turn off to me from the fact that she voted for the AUMF to the fact that she won’t say she’s sorry she did.  Then she voted for Kyl/Leiberman, and I remember that she did a few other things that reinforced my already bad attitude toward Hillary.  That’s not gonna change, even if I end up stuck with her because whatever she is, she’s better than Rudy or Mitt.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1094238"><em>nomolos @ 39</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1094230"><em>Ann in AZ @ 37</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I believe if having the first viable female candidate for President on the ballot doesn’t get women to the polls, nothing will.  That may be good or bad, depending on your perspective.  But many more women should show up at least.</p>
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<p>This may well be true but not necessarily to vote for HRC.  A lot of women, this house knows, in NH are pretty negative about HRC many saying that having a bad woman candidates is worse than no woman candidate.  For instance would you vote for Maggie Thatcher?</p>
<p>I think a fair number of those that the MSM poll system counts as voters for HRC are actually supporters of a woman candidate but not HRC.  Frankly I doubt whether she will win in NH.</p>
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<p>You said exactly what I meant.  Whether you like Hillary or not, women are more likely to vote, some for her, some against her.  It is kind of odd that older women her own age seem to be against her, whereas younger single women tend to like her.  </p>
<p>What tees me off is that the media believe that older women don’t like Hillary because she “stood by her man” and we’re all such women’s libbers that we hate her for it.  I don’t know about anyone else, so I can’t speak for all the women my age, but I know that her and Bill’s relationship really doesn’t enter into my judgment of her at all.  I’m not fond of her policies. </p>
<p>Originally I didn’t think she was electable, and even if she is, her stand on Iraq is a total turn off to me from the fact that she voted for the AUMF to the fact that she won’t say she’s sorry she did.  Then she voted for Kyl/Leiberman, and I remember that she did a few other things that reinforced my already bad attitude toward Hillary.  That’s not gonna change, even if I end up stuck with her because whatever she is, she’s better than Rudy or Mitt.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1094265</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1094247&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jim Clausen @ 42&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I asked David Bonior, Edward’s national campaign manager if John Edwards would spend time at firedoglake. I was told by his local rep that they would seriously consider it (FWIW). Will write more when they get back to me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An interview like Chris Dodd did would be good.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1094247"><em>Jim Clausen @ 42</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I asked David Bonior, Edward’s national campaign manager if John Edwards would spend time at firedoglake. I was told by his local rep that they would seriously consider it (FWIW). Will write more when they get back to me.</p>
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<p>An interview like Chris Dodd did would be good.</p>
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		<title>By: beerfart liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1094263</link>
		<dc:creator>beerfart liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heard somebody else say that about him “looking you in the eye.” prob’ly comes from addressing juries. Not that it’s a bad thing. I like lawyers and I like Edwards and wished he were doing a better and not a victim of this media circus. But who knows? Sometimes it’s about expectations. You guys know this, I’m not saying anything you don’t know. So if the mainstream press is giving him short shrift but he’s connecting with the peoples in Iowa and NH one-on-one, he’ll beat the media expectations and could catch some good press and get some momentum. Other people - Christy comes to mind most notably - have been saying this here. That’s the best case scenario. I’m not writing off Edwards yet. And when other candidates start to drop out, he may attract alot of their people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heard somebody else say that about him “looking you in the eye.” prob’ly comes from addressing juries. Not that it’s a bad thing. I like lawyers and I like Edwards and wished he were doing a better and not a victim of this media circus. But who knows? Sometimes it’s about expectations. You guys know this, I’m not saying anything you don’t know. So if the mainstream press is giving him short shrift but he’s connecting with the peoples in Iowa and NH one-on-one, he’ll beat the media expectations and could catch some good press and get some momentum. Other people &#8211; Christy comes to mind most notably &#8211; have been saying this here. That’s the best case scenario. I’m not writing off Edwards yet. And when other candidates start to drop out, he may attract alot of their people.</p>
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		<title>By: Brisingamen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1094256</link>
		<dc:creator>Brisingamen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1094225&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;teedawg @ 32&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Edwards keeps looking better and better.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edwards is the real deal — I have met him, spoken with him and he looks you in the eye when he answers you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He reminds me of FDR. (And he’s got my vote.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1094225"><em>teedawg @ 32</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Edwards keeps looking better and better.</p>
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<p>Edwards is the real deal — I have met him, spoken with him and he looks you in the eye when he answers you.</p>
<p>He reminds me of FDR. (And he’s got my vote.)</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1094248</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane’s upstairs with the mortgage mess:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/cleaning-up-the-mortgage-mess/&quot;&gt;http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....gage-mess/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane’s upstairs with the mortgage mess:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/cleaning-up-the-mortgage-mess/">http://www.firedoglake.com/200&#8230;..gage-mess/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Clausen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1094247</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Clausen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I asked David Bonior, Edward’s national campaign manager if John Edwards would spend time at firedoglake. I was told by his local rep that they would seriously consider it (FWIW). Will write more when they get back to me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked David Bonior, Edward’s national campaign manager if John Edwards would spend time at firedoglake. I was told by his local rep that they would seriously consider it (FWIW). Will write more when they get back to me.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1094246</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1094239&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Praedor Atrebates @ 38&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well, I am hoping that Hillary’s repeat gaffs of planting questions will now start to unravel her “inevitability” crap from the press and Edwards and Obama will be able to force open that crack and run for the nom.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am scared that HoJoe-lite will win the nomination to tell you the truth. His whole talk of reaching across the partisan divide, well stinks like Holy Joe, his mentor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1094239"><em>Praedor Atrebates @ 38</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Well, I am hoping that Hillary’s repeat gaffs of planting questions will now start to unravel her “inevitability” crap from the press and Edwards and Obama will be able to force open that crack and run for the nom.</p>
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<p>I am scared that HoJoe-lite will win the nomination to tell you the truth. His whole talk of reaching across the partisan divide, well stinks like Holy Joe, his mentor.</p>
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		<title>By: beerfart liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/13/shaping-the-facts/#comment-1094240</link>
		<dc:creator>beerfart liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anybody read that last link of this post/ Look, I’m not a blogger but I imagine it takes quite a bit of time and effort to pull together a post. Now, how in the name of Christ could anyone spend that time and effort on a post comparing Jenna Bush and Chelsea Clinton - a post clearly aimed at assisting in the Jenna rehabilitation (I mean her image, not &lt;em&gt;her&lt;/em&gt;)?? Boooogles my mind.  I means it’s just utter who-gives-a-shit crap.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody read that last link of this post/ Look, I’m not a blogger but I imagine it takes quite a bit of time and effort to pull together a post. Now, how in the name of Christ could anyone spend that time and effort on a post comparing Jenna Bush and Chelsea Clinton &#8211; a post clearly aimed at assisting in the Jenna rehabilitation (I mean her image, not <em>her</em>)?? Boooogles my mind.  I means it’s just utter who-gives-a-shit crap.</p>
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