cinammonape:

Oh God, don’t remind us of the prostrations of the candidates at the Herzliyah conference. By way of comparison, take a look at the speech Peres gave there.

Sadly Shimon Peres isn’t eligible for US President. He is a paragon of wisdom and hope. And reasonableness.

But the speeches of all the US Presidential candidates that presented there (Edwards, Giuliani, Romney, Gingerich, McCain) were almost cut from the same cloth. Most of the American contingent at Herzliya were far to the right of Peres. The tub-thumping about Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, the Palestinians…was certainly not restricted to Edwards, I admit. But Hillary and Obama didn’t opt to show, even with a Satellite speech.

Bush sent over several mouthpieces like Spellings, Gordon England, Nicolas Burns. As well an assortment of Neocons and other loons..Robert Einhorn, Richard Perle, Adm. James “CIA” Woolsey, Alan “Waterboard” Dershowitz, “race scientist” Charles Murray, showed to offer their wisdom on T.W.A.T.

And the Israeli Rightwing was in plentiful supply: Benjamin Netanyahu, Dore Gold, Abraham Abramowitz, Natan Sharansky.

Hardly the company I’d once have expected Edwards to want to be associated with.

Good Morning Christy.

I am going to a meeting with the national campaign manager for John Edwards this afternoon and should have a chance to pose several questions.

Do any firepups have any questions that I should pose? Thanks

Tell them that they need to have some local Democrat speak to the crowd if they have to wait to see the candidate (or get a local musician/band to keep the crowd entertained). The last time Edwards was in Central Ohio, things were supposed to start at 5:30pm. In reality it was closer to 7pm.

Some of us came to the meeting straight from work — which meant no time for supper. During that time the crowd was waiting, it seems Mr. Edwards had gone to dinner.

It’s not fun to wait when there’s nothing to do and no food nearby, and lunch was more than 4 hours ago…

Here’s an interesting piece from Bloomberg about anti-war folks and their frustration with the Beltway. Thought it would be of interest for a lot of folks here.

I read this one Christy and got thinking about how the netroots could make more of an effective protest regarding this. In essence we have to decide what would be an effective message to the Party and its leadership on this point and others.

I’d suggest a total boycott in support for Blue Dogs except perhaps for a vote in the General Election. No money, no campaign assistance, no signs, nada. No money to the DSCC and DCC ~ only to “progressive” campaigns. Let the Emmanuels come to grips with the impact of losing the foot-soldiers and crowds come home to roost.

Lot’s of support for challengers in the Primaries who are progressive over those who have failed to deliver.

Yes, there may be some seats lost to the Republicans…but I suspect that these can be balanced out overall by gains in the progressive camp. Even a loss of a Blue Dog seat in Congress actually benefits the strengthening of progressives within the Party.

That’s because Blue Dogs tend to vote with the Pugs anyways AND INTERNALLY they draw the party itself to the Right in Caucuses.
Every Blue Dog or DiFi INCREASES the pull to the rightwing in the party, resulting in decisions that are impotent. It maintains party leadership in power who are willing to compromise with these ten or so Senators….and 25 or so Congressmen. Change that balance within the party and the leadership will be compelled to change or be removed.

So the goal is to push all our resources into progressive campaigns…and let them know that we are doing precisely that until the Blue Dogs realize that they need progressive support as well to win. Even if there’s only 10% progressives in their district…even 5%…they won’t win without our support.

What is the prison industrial complex about? rehabilitation or warehousing human beings for profit?

No business wants to create a system that puts itself out of business. Rehabilitation, if successful, would make commercial prisons about as necessary as an oil companies that revealed how to convert an automobile engine that runs on water.

From CNN’s Political Ticker “24 Creator: Clinton as President is ‘nuts’”

And teh stoopid it burnz yeszzz!

Yeah, just nuts! A woman? A former President’s wife? It’s never happened before!!! And she’s only a two term Senator that’s only happened a half dozen times! Preposterous!

It’s almost a ridiculous as a former mayor with no Federal or Governor experience being elected President.

Oh wait! The 24 idiot supports Giuliana…

This taken from the Bloomberg link,

“We haven’t been effective in ending the war in Iraq,” Pelosi told reporters Nov. 1. “If you asked me in a phone call, as ardent a Democrat as I am, I would disapprove of Congress as well.”

Well M. Speaker, ‘as ardent a Democrat as I am’. Why are you not really doing anything about it then?
And, As an American citizen who (because of her position) has a far ‘clearer’ view of the ‘facts’,
Why is SHE not out in front leading the fight for this Country and its Constitution?
Is she, a Patriot or a Traitor? time to chose.
Re; the Cindy Sheenan challenge.
Cindy, in a real way, is ‘the face and name’ of the many many ‘unheard and unseen’ who do live in the real world. She’s pissed, we’re pissed And, maybe she doesn’t win, but the roar created by all ‘the little folks’ is definitely beginning to get her attention (along with all the other ‘pols’ who feeling the ‘heat’).
Re; the moving up of various Primaries; Was that because ‘The Man’ was afraid if given too much longer ‘the people’ would organize and chose/support their own choices?

coffee’s ready – hold out your cups…

wapo article, thru my sleeping eyes, makes the thompson campaign sound like a science experiment or an intellectual exercise…

I thought it sounded like that program “Big Brother”…or perhaps the one where they switch wives/mothers into a new family. It was absolutely loony toons! And even wierder was that the whole planning was done by a bunch of people who really were so unprofessional off of a kitchentop.

It suggests that as long as a person is a celebrity they can run for office…not win, mind you…but be considered seriously by the MSM!

Hey maybe Jerry Seinfeld should run!