You know, half-dead Righty scolds like Dennis Prager get a lot of mileage out of accusing “The Left” of having dirty mouths.
As I wrote in my June 5, 2007, column, “‘Buck Fush’ and the Left,” “Higher civilization has always regarded the use of expletives in public (outside of, let us say, theatrical performances) as a form of assault on civilization . . . .”
That is why the amount of public cursing on the left and the way curse words are accepted as part of public and formal discourse may be as significant to understanding the left as anything the left says. It is the left’s way of showing rejection of the values of the middle class and of America’s Judeo-Christian civilization.
So let me get this straight, Mr. Prager. When I read your soulless drivel at Townhall, roll my eyes and say, “Goddamn, this asshole is a shitty writer!”, I am undermining society as you know it and hastening the downfall of “Judeo-Christian civilization”? Well, hot damn! Cos, you know, the bulk of the people in the world are neither Christian nor Jewish and on the whole, our efforts to “Judeo-Christian”-ize the rest of the planet have been violent, shit-stupid clusterfucks like, oh, I dunno, the Crusades. And the War in Iraq.
Clearly, we all need to curse more.
Especially when Karl “Uncle Fucker” Rove is saying things like this:
“I’m a fan of many blogs. I visit them frequently and I learn a lot from them,” Mr. Rove said. “But there also blogs written by angry kooks.”
He also claimed that liberals use more “bad words,” comparing sites like DailyKos and Democratic Underground to Townhall and FreeRepublic. The “netroots often argue from anger rather than reason, and too often, their object is personal release, not political persuasion,” said Rove.
Because everybody knows that Conservatives never swear.
Except, of course, when they do.
At a campaign event in South Carolina, a McCain backer stood up to ask the senator, “How do we beat the bitch?”
In response, McCain said, “We have our differences with our Democratic rivals, but I believe in treating people with respect. It’s why I don’t refer to women as ‘bitches,’ even when I disagree with them. I’m sure all of us believe we can debate the serious issues of the day without name-calling and degrading language.”
No, no, I’m just kidding. He actually responded, “That’s an excellent question.”
But even beyond the question of swearing, I feel the need to call bullshit on the Republicans with this logic. Liberals may say the occasional swear words (I would posit that we are not alone in this, either), but conservatives are the ones who actually do disgusting, filthy, obscene things.
For example, there was the involvement of Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff in slave labor, human trafficking, and sex slavery in the Northern Mariana Islands. Perhaps “Hot Tub” Tom DeLay is the kind of guy who wouldn’t say “shit” if he had a mouthful (although I doubt it), but to profit from the exploitation of human beings as a commodity, that’s obscene.
Michelle Malkin might say, “Oh, beans!” when she drunkenly spills merlot on her taupe silk shirt while she’s moping around at home in her freshly-fired-from-Teh-Factor doldrums, but it’s her propensity for stalking and harassing sick and injured children and their families (not to mention her tireless advocacy of internment camps) that obviates any specious linguistic high ground that she may attempt to claim.
And of course, there is the greatest obscenity of our time, the invasion of Iraq on completely false premises and the total lack of a plan for what would happen once the US military got there. Sure, I may say “fuck” a lot, but I have never advocated for the kind of disastrous policy decisions that result in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Not to mention the obscenity of how our country is treating our veterans of this failed occupation and their families.
I could go on and on, what with Republicans’ seeming inability to keep their hands to themselves and their pants zipped up, but we’ve already just about beat that horse to death around here. Instead, I leave you with Left-Over’s Top Ten Reasons Why Liberal Bloggers Are More Vitriolic Than Conservatives:
10. Most profanity learned after the fourth grade reading level!
9. Conservative angry kooks all too busy with their radio and TV shows!
8. No opportunities to let it out on the floor of the U.S. Senate!
7. More passion comes from actual beliefs than from Richard Mellon Scaife’s checkbook!
6. Some scientists say it’s just a natural cyclical rise in vitriol, not caused by human liberal bloggers!
5. Official Republican talking points pre-screened for swear words!
4. Conservatives just resting between Clinton presidencies!
3. Need to seem dangerous enough to keep Bill O’Reilly from “coming to your house!”
2. Bungled response to 9/11 changed everything!
And the top reason why liberal bloggers are more vitriolic than conservatives:
1. Conservatives prefer to get their “personal release” in public restrooms!
Thank you very much, everybody! You’ve been a great audience. We’ve got a fantastic show for you tonight, so stick around! (Godammit!!)
Related posts:
- Israel Defiant – Words or Deeds Mr. President?
- Late Night: Words Certainly Can Kill.
- Late Night: Conservatives Are Assholes
- Late Night: Horrible Old Farts Protect Nation from Tits and Bad Words; Brent Bozell Applauds, Thinks That’s The Shit
- Teabagging Rep. Todd Akin Recites Pledge to “Drive Liberals Crazy,” Then Botches the Words





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TRex!!!
TRex!
Aw, fuck ‘em.
TRex!!!!!!
Evening, kids!
TRex!
TRex!
TRex, i can feel the flames coming off that post…
Awesome fuckin’ post tonight, Trex!
(I may as well join the throng with the profanity!)
*holding out swear jar*
Speaking of a blogger who made effective use of profanity……Today is Steve Gilliard’s birthday, he would have been 43…RIP.
Attack!! I am much less offended by colorful language than by the daily obscenities and perversions perpetrated upon the planet and her inhabitants by the current administration.
going to grab some quarters now *g*
tossing first quarter* into the jar
*with string affixed
Got my quarter on a string all ready, damn it!
(thanks for the idea Suzanne!)
Suzanne @ 10
I suspect you will make milllions tonight.
madmommy @ 12
Amen. If the wingnuts can’t understand the difference between uttering or typing a four-letter word and destroying the entire infrastructure of whole countries, then maybe they’d be better off sitting down and shutting up.
Passing quarter to Suzanne,
FanFUCKINGtastic, TRex!
Cheney!
Steve-AR @ 11
i miss gilly (deep sigh)
And then there’s the man whose deeds matched his words: Richard “Expletive Deleted” Nixon.
CTuttle @ 19
Now that’s an obscenity right there!
Evening folks.
CTuttle @ 19
Now CT, some words are too blue. You owe 2 quarters (can’t find a cents sign on my keyboard. hmmmm).
LoudounLib @ 22
I need the jar! *plink* oops, another… *plink*
EvilDrPuma @ 17
I wish they would, but understanding these not so subtle differences has never been a GOP strong suit. Hypocracy, on the other hand…
Laura Doty @ 24
Laura – I think it’s one of those funky “special characters” thingies.
I’d rather be lied to than read a curse word on the internet.
Steve-AR @ 11
Damn.
RIP indeed.
fuckin’ foul-mouthed fem bloggers!
oh wait… TRex is a MAN! (damn! there goes my thesis!)
I wanted to talk about a new missile system, just starting development. I would like to ask people to write their congressman, because the US just does not need a new missile system.
Northrop Grumman’s six-month cost-sharing study contract will support the system definition phase (Phase I) of the joint DARPA/Air Force Application and Launch from the Continental United States (FALCON) technology demonstration program.
Yep, I know you’re right Toby, and I didn’t feel like searching around with the option key for too long.
CT, waiting for another plink. I know that was a quarter, ‘cuz a fifty cent piece goes plunk.
http://www.fasthumor.com/images/FUCK.swf
This ex swabbie says: enufffucking said
Shorter Deadeye Cheney: “Liberal bloggers, go fuck yourselves, you fucking fucked-up fuckers…oh, and fuck the donkey you rode into town on…with a fucking ten foot fucking pole.”
Shorter Lynne Cheney: “Oooohhh Dicky, that makes me so hot. Roll over and fuck my ears off.”
Toby Wollin @ 27
I distincly remember a cent symbol on my old typewriter, but now that I look, there’s not one on my keyboard.
Laura Doty @ 32
I edited another one in already! :P
I gotcher missile system right here, mister!
here’s my quarter… and a couple more to cover me later in the evening.
Well, fuck. That’s all I gotta say.
Peterr @ 29
Thanks for the reminder, Steve.
TRex @ 37
Inevitably I’m reminded of an old SNL mock commercial for a birth control device based on NORAD’s missile detection system.
Sandman @ 31
It’s not because the U.S. needs a new missile system.
It’s because Northrup Grumman needs another juicy government contract.
be sure to save a few of them quarters for the servers – located at the top right on every page.
Evening all. Nice post TRex. I see that the rightard ignorance of history is in full force here. The ban on “vulgarities” only dates to the Victorian era. To (mis)quote the Bard, “Speak thou of country matters?”
You must mean Karl “Miss Piggy” Rove, do you not?
Suzanne @ 10
Hope you have the fuckin’ giant economy family size one tonight.
DrDick @ 44
I’m not so sure. They may really believe that the history of civilization only goes back to the Victorian era.
You know what ticks me off unbelieveably – that that f**ker McCain made that stupid vicious joke about Chelsea Clinton. If I had Hillary Clinton here right now, I’d tell her I understand why she is the way she is – when some wombat like McCain thinks he can throw s**t on her kid like that.
As a mother of three kids who struggled through adolescence with the whole “do I look good enough”, “do I look good at all” stuff, I think that was the cheapest of cheap shots and if I had him here right now, I’d give him a poke in the nose for it.
..oh, and I think I owe two quarters for that.
dr dick, skating pretty close to that there thin ice… that is one of the few words that is a huge no no
Toby Wollin @ 27
On a Mac, Edit menu on the Finder toolbar.
Suzanne @ 20
Gilly’s looking on from heaven and having a nice deep belly laugh over the latest Judith Regan revelations.
oh fuck this shitGood evening dear friends. (out of quarters)
madmommy @ 12
Indeed. Obscene words, no biggie. Obscene acts are a whole different matter.
Toby, I’m with you.
DrDick @ 44
You mean the c the u ……..I have forgotten how my English teacher explained that line.
Today I was at the kiddo’s school doing art moms. They did a Jasper Johns project, and painted a flag. Before they painted in the colors they used a sharpie to write words across the stripes that they thought described America. The kids were calling out ideas, and asking the moms to help them spell bigger words. My boy said he wanted to write Constitution but didn’t know how to spell it. Evidently my nightly rants while listening to the news have sunk in. When his teacher saw it she announced it to the class and suggested they all write the same on their pictures if they still had room, first grade penmanship being somewhat gigantic.
Mommy was very proud.
neurophius @ 42
Fuck, they need to re-invest in finding Chinese Subs, long before funding a new missile system…
TexBetsy @ 52
Here Tex, I’ve got a big old box of change if anyone needs to borrow.
Oh, if I had any ¢¢¢¢¢, I coulda figured it out. It’s option/4 (’stead of the dollar sign, but without having to shift). You know madmommy, I’ll bet it used to be on the #6, instead of the little ^ there now.
Thanks for being so honest CT! (Is yours on a string, too?)
Suzanne @ 43
The way the Late Nite crew burns through the bandwidth, we’re going to need every damn one of those quarters.
Oops.
*clink*
madmommy @ 56
That is excellent!
madmommy @ 56
Go Mommy! Go Big Kid!
Ah yes, thank goodness it wasn’t Richard Nixon who introduced the term ‘ratfucker’ to the American lexicon.
Thank goodness Dick Cheney didn’t tell Pat Leahy to ‘fuck off’ on the floor of Senate.
Thank goodness George W. Codpiece didn’t tell Dick Cheney that Adam Clymer was an ‘asshole’.
Rover’s right, these people ARE angry kooks.
-GSD
Laura Doty @ 59
“option/4″? Huh?
Peterr @ 60
no shit
*clink*
F*ck that sh*t!
tonight’s snack in honor of madmom, big kid, and the constitution
Suzanne @ 49
Merely an illustration of my larger point. Shakespeare is full of obscene puns of that sort (though that is the only one which comes to mind right now). We miss much of it as the references are to Elizabethan slang and the meanings are no longer current.
Toby Wollin @ 64
use the option key instead of the shift key and type the “4″ – makes the ¢ sign.
My goodness! TRex said “clusterfuck”!
I KNOW the loved ones of the hundreds of thousands of people who’ve died in “Operation Enduring Shitmire” are deeply outraged at his crudeness in describing the blessings that george bush (heeding the EXPLICIT directons of baby Jeebus, sayeth junior) has bestowed on the people of what used to be Iraq.
madmommy @ 56
There’s a piece of art for the refrigerator.
(And then pack it away and save it for about 10 years, then put it back up when the kiddo is in high school taking civics or government or history or some such course.)
Madmommy @ 56;
I can only aspire to rants so productive!
TexBetsy @ 67
Very yummy
Toby Wollin @ 48
People were always making unkind comments about Chelsea..Of course people wanted to provoke a response from Hillary..”see she acts like a women, couldn’t trust her with the military..blah..blah..hormones..blah..blah.
DrDick @ 68
I think the problem was RIGHTard
TexBetsy @ 67
Thanks Betsy, looks yummy!
Did you get the link I sent you on FB?
Maddy @ 33
Fucking beautiful.
Suz, I can’t get the string on the quarter, sorry. It keeps fucking slipping off.
Toby Wollin @ 64
Macs have option keys.
OldCoastie @ 69
OK — I’m staring at my keybaord and I see shift, ctrl, alt, and this little flaggy thing…which one is the option key?
sorry OT
November 13, 2007 – Impeachment
A total of 64% of American voters say that President George W. Bush has abused his powers as president. Of the 64%, 14% (9% of all voters) say the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment, 33% (21% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses, but he should not be impeached, and 53% (34% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses and Mr. Bush should be impeached and removed from office.
madmommy @ 76
yes, thanks.
Toby, buy a mac.
Steve-AR @ 55
Yep. Remembered another one. The line in Hamlet, “Get thee to a nunnery.” Actually refers to a whore house (Elizabethan slang term for same).
G’nite, all. Keep feeding the tip jar!
How come anyone saying fuck at the lake is a worse offense than going after a sick kid, or an injured vet, or any other of the crap the rightwing pulls on a daily basis?
Toby Wollin @ 48
Hey! What did wombats ever do to deserve being associated with McCain?
Hmmph!
Persiflage, friend to wombats
Peterr @ 71
If such courses are still being taught 8-10 years from now. They barely hit the high points now, just not important to the NCLB, I guess.
Speaking of the fucking swear jar (plink), I recall reading Tom Delay had one in his office used to fine folks for using democratic in lieu of democrat. No cite but *not* snark.
the right to break social norms – including starting wars on lies, torture and yes, even swearing – is a right that belongs only to our betters in the republican party.
Loo Hoo. @ 77
superglue is your friend (if ya keep it away from your fingers)
“oh please dont kill me”
T-baby; you on FIRE! :o)
Toby – you aren’t on a Mac! the damn PCs aren’t blessed with an option key…
(clink!)
Toby, try alt.
Busy working on lecture prep, but thought I’d share this page from Snopes. Some funny stuff…
Steve-AR @ 72
Steve – I don’t know if anyone has done a study of when exactly it started to be ok to attack children, but this certainly seems like one of those handy dandy “f**k you” tools that the Rethugs just looooove to use.
Why is it ok to attack kids?
oh, yeah…plink.
sadly yes @ 80
IIRC in a previous poll by the same group 68% of Americans didn’t know what impeachment was.
fuck should not be an obscenity because it is such a universally expressive word. For example: if you’re happy, “Fuckin rock on”!; if you’re angry, “Fuck you”!; if you’re disappointed, “Awe fuck”!; if you like something, “this is fuckin cool”!
You get the picture. Fuckin-A!
smapdi @ 91
Perfectofuckingmundo. Truly one of the most obscene statements ever made to the press.
punaise @ 66
You still owe fiddycent. *terisks can’t save your *.
(Between us, that’s a dollar.)
Suzanne @ 85
It’s because wingnuts’ priorities are not merely twisted, but actually bent.
TexBetsy @ 82
Sigh. I had an Apple Two plus and one of the very first Macs…sniff…miss my Mac…
Congratulations, madmommy! You done proud.
Toby Wollin @ 96
because kids are small and weak – and therefore to be despised.
These and other headlines/stories can be seen at my blog this evening, along with a blogs roundup that’s only 3 or 4 hours old:
CIA admits to recording interrogations of top al Qaida captives
GOP’s Thompson urges expanded military (AP)
Roberts receives ‘no confidence’ vote (AP)
Iran hands IAEA nuclear blueprints (AP)
Suzanne @ 85
Because IOKIYAR.
madmommy @ 56
This ole brat is very proud of your little kiddo too – taught kindergarden in Oakland way back when and those wee folk K-3 forevah own my heart.
Steve-AR @ 72
I defy anyone who supported attacking Chelsea to show pictures of themselves as awkward adolescents. Very few people escaped their pre-teens without a least a slight detour to dorktown. For all of the faults of Bill and Hillary, it seems that they managed to raise a pretty decent kid. No underage drinking, no drug busts. More than can be said for some others in public life.
Renee in Ohio @ 95
I kan has nose?
you-all know i don’t mean any of that shit, right?
Steve-AR @ 97
there is no hope…tear falls
wangdang!
Laura Doty @ 109
707!
“Thou shalt not take the Lord’s name in vain” the preacher said to my father the cusser. “I did not know that the Lord’s name was shit” he replied. This exchange took place in the parking lot of the church during my childhood and my siblings and I thought it very clever. We all cuss also. It is a proud tradition but we never take the Lord’s name in vain.
Toby..the first that comes to mind is Amy Carter
selise @ 111
YOU, of all people, do not need to clarify that!
selise @ 111
yes, dear – we know that…
;-)
Just got off the phone with the under-employed Karl Rove. He told me to pass this on to TRex:
“We will fuck him. Do you hear me? We will fuck him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever fucked him!”
When I aked Karl “What kind of fuckery is this?’ he replied “Goddam GOP Wide-Stance Fuckery, Mothafucka.”
Then I heard a lot of scraping and whining sounds. I thought he was about to do the Rove shuffle from that dinner last winter, but I was disappointed. He was merely shitting in his pants. I just got a new phone with a good speaker. You could even hear it running down his legs as he muttered “Goddam astonauts stole my diapers….”
selise @ 102
and un-f**kin-doubtedly, in their world, only meant to be chained to some chunk of machinery in a factory someplace to make goods to profit them.
Except for THEIR kids, of course – their kids are bred to be captains of industry or some such s**t.
OldCoastie @ 69
I don’t have an option key on this mother fuckin’ HP.
well, fuck it. let’s go bowling …
Laura Doty @ 109
My new kitteh, Der Boof, wakes me up at oh-five-thirty every day with a bite on my nose.
BeBe @ 114
ooooh, i like this
Laura Doty at 109
You has a flavor?
I did a practice run today, prepping for Turkey day, where my 96 YRO Grandmother and my Mom will be over for… The bird has already impacted everybody, I’ve got casualties lying all over the place… ;-)
Toby Wollin @ 79
smack between the left side option and apple key on mine -
Buy a mac, LooHoo.
Ed*ard Teller @ 118
spew
Hi ET, will you please re-post your link to your rendition of Hugh’s List?
OK, folks, stick a fork in me..I’m done.
BeBe @ 116
My hillbilly grandfather was much given to “colorful” speech. Every third word was SOB (in the long form). Always kind of considered him a role model.
Laura Doty @ 109
Earz to chewie, need ketchup kthksbai
Loo Hoo. @ 120
Loo Hoo really..what happened to the standards of the FDL Hillary support group?
Lou!
g’night Toby
Uh.
Mah.
Gawd.
I was such an ugly early teen. Bad hair, bad glasses, jeans belted just below the nipples, terrible acne.
I’m getting all PTSD just thinking about it.
npb – poor Toby does not have a fuckin’ mac!
A Mission for georgie. Why not fly over to Iran and drop a couple f bombs, then on to korea and any where else his dried up heart wants to take him, he can f bomb all his enemies and come back and unequivocly say mission afuckingcomplished.
LoudounLib @ 129
click on my nom de blog, my firefighter friend.
wangdangdoodle @ 134
grrrrllll! How are ya?
madmommy @ 134
My cats are going straight for the belly. They know where the good fat meat is. ;~)
i wonder what kinda top 10 we could come up with about the republicans
As long as we’re tossing obscenities around, here are a few…
(In addition to “Bush’s stupid bloody war in Iraq”)…
“Bush’s stupid bloody war-to-be in Iran”
“Bush’s veto of health care for children”
“Bush’s illegal eavesdropping on the American people”
“Bush’s pro-torture policy”
Let’s see, I guess I owe about $1.25…
Fuck you people and your macs too.
Steve-AR @ 115
Big Rush called Chelsea a “dog” – having raised 3 daughters and now have a granddaughter who is 12, I know all about the feelings at that age. I can’t begin to understand why anyone would do this. They are so insecure at that age; hormones raging, face breaking out, hair never just right, etc. Heartbreaking.
CTuttle @ 125
Hopefully from being overfull and not food poisioning, right? ;0)
ET, thank you — and may I say how impressive that looks in the pictures!
neurophius @ 143
is B-U-S-H your 4-letter word?
TRex @ 138
Know the felling. And I had raging Tourette’s syndrome to boot. Let’s just say that adolescence was not pretty and largely better forgotten.
My mom always said swearing is the sign of a weak vocabulary. However sometimes nothing else will do.
The right has its share of dirty mouths as well. I’d much rather hear a well constructed curse then the self-rightous and fatuous blathering of someone like Dennis Praeger.
Praeger spews mindless drek.
DrDick @ 149
amen!
LoudounLib @ 138
Mad, crazy, busy for one more day. Then I veg.
TexBetsy @ 151
I second that amen.
Speaking of dirty deeds, has anyone told Rick Santorum about this? Oh, no!
madmommy @ 146
I’ll let ya know in 24-48 hrs…! ;-)
oh me likey
Tue Nov 13, 7:35 AM ET
DES MOINES, Iowa – Democrat John Edwards will begin airing new campaign advertisements Tuesday focusing on his call to end health benefits for top politicians who don’t approve a universal health care plan within six months of the next president taking office.
Prager?
I’ll give some “dirty mouth.”
Fuck that prick. He once outed me on his radio show, after I’d written him in response to his “Muslim electees gotta swear on the Bible” canard. Read my name and email address aloud on his show. A friend of my cousin in CA called him to say that he’d heard it, and Jojo called me with the news.
THat cat is so full of himself.
TRex @ 136
I’ll see the bad hair and the bad glasses, and throw in braces, bony legs and (for me) flat-chestedness. Not a good look at all.
EvilDrPuma @ 153
Third-ed. I was one mizzable adolescent.
Redshift @ 154
“Man marries bitch to beat curse”
James Carville?
selise @ 111
We know you were giving the fucking republic point of view, selise.
I intend to cuss on every comment tonight. I just need a few new cuss words. (What with the super glue working so goddamn well!)
Redshift @ 154
See what happens? That inexorable “gay lifestyle” upshot.
TexBetsy @ 148
Hyphens will not save you. That’ll be a quarter, ma’am.
OT….A quote from Amy Carter about her wedding:
“Ms. Carter chose not to be “given away,” stating that she “belonged to no one.” “
Redshift @ 154
Hilarious *g*
Loo Hoo. @ 161
Well GDMFSOB!
OldCoastie @ 69
what does an “option” key look like? i can’t find one that says “option”. where is it?
Thanks for the laughs all..it is appreciated, I sure as hyell needed one. Hyell-an example of how I type withoput looking.
There is always a Very Special place in my heart for Vicious Potty-Mouthed Queens. Tonight, TREX, you reign supreme!
greenwarrior @ 167
only on a mac
Redshift @ 156
Hell, if that’s all it takes to get rid of the Rethugs, I’m heading to the pound right now. 8~)
Twain @ 145
And Rush is such a fucking Adonis. Imagine him as a dorky teen, on second thought don’t he’s repulsive enough as he is today.
madmommy @ 158
mah twee-in. sepRated ait burth.
wondering — is this a new record? 170-some comments in 45 minutes.
CTuttle @ 125
Otra vez?
madmommy @ 172
I, on the other hand, was far cuter as a teen.
LoudounLib @ 174
we’ve done over 200 in an hour several times
greenwarrior @ 167
They’re optional.
TexBetsy @ 148
No, each of those phrases describes a separate Bush obscenity
sadly yes @ 157
I saw that and I am not sure what to make of it.
*waving to bobby g*
What kind of fu¢kery is this? (pay as you go)
Suzanne @ 179
seems like we’ll be that in the next minute or two, or have already …
OldCoastie @ 127
Next time. Wanna go to the Anaheim Big Dem blow out this Saturday?
The caucus meetings, standing committees, trainings and workshops all should be free and open to registered Democrats. I think everything is open to registered Democrats except probably the General Session on Sunday, the Saturday luncheon and maybe the E-Board Social with John Dean on Friday night.
Of course if you have to get a Motel, you’d have to pay for that … and your food
To find out for sure I’d give a call to your county Democratic party office or Central Committee member
This from John in Sacramento at #57 in Christy’s postcard thread today.
DrDick @ 171
Okay now cut it out, my sides hurt.
Patrick 4/4 @ 182
capitalist fuckery
TexBetsy @ 166
D, F and B. Three-quarters of a dollar.
Loo Hoo. @ 184
loohoo, is that where they will vote on the difink censure?
greenwarrior @ 167
The mac people are making fun of the pc people. The option key is only on a mac. It’s just like “The Star Bellied Sneetches” by Dr. Seuss.;0)
TRex @ 37
Are you planning on deploying that missile in a silo any time soon? Make sure that the heat shield stays in place, so that the warheads aren’t scattered all over the launching area.
Practice safe rocketry!
can’t this Saturday, LooHoo – but thanks!
Loo Hoo. @ 175
What is it, Tryptopan, or something along those lines? Anyways, it’s a’kicking, even the cat and dog are snoozing…!
madmommy @ 108
Most kids rebel against their parents to some degree. At least to a certain age, they tend to do the opposite things their parents do (yes, I know there are exceptions).
So yes, makes sense Chelsea seems to be a nice, caring, thoughtful person. She may even be Democrat!
Steve-AR @ 133
You’re right. I’m tired of cussing now. I’ll stop. Plus it doesn’t feel good to cuss if you don’t REALLY need to.
Suzanne @ 181
Waving back. BTW, check this out. Glorious.
And I’m not even really a “Christian” (recovering Episcopalian /lapsed Unitarian here, LOL). Still, this will be in rotation with my Amy Grant Christmas stuff.
burnspbesq @ 190
spew
madmommy @ 189
I luuurrrved Dr Seuss back in the day, and that one was a fave ;-)
Suzanne @ 186
Suuuuuuuz
ANNE!
Steve-AR @ 180
You must have health benefits – millions do not – and the congresscritters have plush coverate courtesy of the taxpayers.
200!
wangdangdoodle @ 100
put it on my tab…
ET, Spill.
Patrick 4/4 @ 198
paTRICK 4/4
Hmmm. Something got lost out of my previous comment.
My point was that each of those actions by B*sh is, in itself, an obscenity.
I can’t define it, but like the Supreme Court, I know it when I see it.
newspaperbrat @ 199
B-b-but DeLay says all ‘Merkans have health coverage! /s
TexBetsy @ 202
in 50 f*ckin minutes …
neurophius @ 204
it was embedded within your original quote.. TLM fixed it (hard refresh to see)
LoudounLib @ 205
And, Bu’ush says ‘what’s the problem? People can just go to the ER.’
lee5 @ 206
F*ckin-a.
burnspbesq @ 190
What kind of rocketry is this?
Seven words
LoudounLib @ 197
When we were little mom drew stars on my brothers and my bellies. We thought we were quite something. I also really love “The Lorax”. I don’t know the correct termonology for the way he wrote, but reading Seuss aloud is so much fun to me.
Redshift @ 154
Proof of how important an education can be. What are they teaching at those righty religious schools?
There’s been a lot more nasty, disgusting, violent, reprehensible things done with “clean” words than with “dirty” words.
The most elegant prose written has started wars…the basic “fuck you” has merely started a bar fight.
madmommy @ 212
Seuss is fantastic, and has definitely stood the test of time.
I like the Edwards ad ..it gets attention and even if it isn’t probable the fact that he would try should make people smile.
more fuckery
Suzanne @ 207
Thanks!
neurophius @ 210
Thrusting, yearning, probing, cost-over-running rocketry.
madmommy @ 212
Yep. A man who knew and understood the power and joy of words. I know he inspired me with a love of language and the inherent playfulness it presents.
sadly yes @ 157
Is that something a President can do? Or is it king-like behavior learned from Dear Leader?
fuck
Sneetches…
Part 1
Part 2
Suzanne @ 207
Uh-oh, Hmmm… RBG and TLM! Are they anxiously awaiting the nite’s take from the swear jar, Suz? 8-)
lee5 @ 217
Well that deserves an expletive…
fuck!!!
Loo Hoo. @ 221
I seriously doubt that he can legally do it, but IANAL. Burns?
Steve-AR @ 11
Thanks for mentioning that. I miss him.
Loo Hoo. @ 221
We might ask Mr. Edwards if his family now takes their taxpayer funded healthcare benefits.
and on the lighter side, the f*ckin short version
Patrick 4/4 @ 219
That should cost you a quarter or two. Just because.
wangdangdoodle @ 223
sweet — thanks! Saving them to watch tomorrow :-)
lee5 @ 217
Tancredo?
Suz – any fresh firepup counts for the meetup in your oh so cool cottage in the Boulder Creek forest? ;~)
katherine Graham Cracker @ 216
give em hell JOHN BOY
Twain @ 232
Didn’t realize that Hitler and Stalin were running.
Twain @ 234
he mighht be stupider …
dumb fuck
newspaperbrat @ 199
I just don’t understand why say something that he knows that he can’t do. Why be cute..just say he is for single payer and fuck the insurance companies.
DrDick @ 226
What I took from the ad is more making people aware of the cush plan that congresscrutters have. And framing the debate so as to make those who oppose reform defend their position: “I’ve got the good health care but you can get fucked.”
Tush wasn’t even original in his insult to Chelsea. The conservatives used to call Elinor Roosevelt “the President’s dog”.
Suzanne @ 188
Yup! Peanutbutter and demi are looking at going too. Just for Saturday….!
Yury Baluyevsky, the chief of Russia’s general staff, said in an interview with the Russia Today TV channel on Tuesday that the Russian Armed Forces were under no obligation to protect the world from the U.S.
“Today, there is no need to be afraid of the Russian Armed Forces. However, I do not believe that the Russian military is obliged to defend the world from the evil Americans”.
Who the hell wears the black hats these days?
-GSD
Two Faiths Divided on Women’s Ordination Ceremony
from t r u t h o u t
The Associated Press reports: “When the Jewish congregation offered its synagogue for an ordination of two women in a ceremony disavowed by the Roman Catholic Church, it drew the ire of archdiocese officials, who vowed never again to work with the congregation.”
comfort the afflicted,AFFLICT the comfortable
Steve-AR @ 164
Whaddaya expect from a frickin’ Brown grad? At least Chelsea went to a real college.
[apologies to any frickin’ Brown grads out there]
katherine Graham Cracker @ 216
Oh what could’ve been! Once again, Edwards allowed himself to be consultainted into nothing the first half of his campaign, in a mad dash to the mythical “center.” Oooo and lookee here! He’s picking up steam now that he’s coming out swinging. 98.6% the people here could’ve told him that since the beginning.
Fortunately, there are Dems who get this that are running now. Can’t wait for them to start running for Prez!
Good thing our soldiers never curse, huh? Since we all know they’re the embodiment of all that is good and right in this country, they couldn’t possibly reject America’s Judeo-Christian civilization, so either they don’t curse or this entire argument is completely asinine.
Gosh, I wonder which it is?
newspaperbrat @ 233
had an email from the FreewayBlogger last night – hoping ScarletP will be able to attend.
confirmed:
teddysf
egregious
newtonusr
newspaperbrat
punaise
marymc
if you are attending and have not emailed me to confirm (and for directions) at ten67x at google’s mail thingie, please do so so i can add your name.
Large majorities of Republicans in New Hampshire and Iowa said they wanted the next president to be as conservative or more conservative than President Bush
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Just a note: Bush is not Conservative, he spends more than any other President and warentless wire tapping. Not Conservative.
um um um, i think it’s asinine!
did I get it right?
Sandman @ 248
but he TALKS conservative.
loohoo, pb and demi take on the dems saturday (woohoo) is that the day of the difink censure vote or is that sunday?
TexBetsy @ 242
Good for the synagogue congregation to be so welcoming, especially considering the history between the faiths durring WWII. And major fucking BOO to the Catholic church, which is having to close parishes nationwide, and paying piles of money in sex scandals, but still will not ordain women.
Sandman @ 250
yeah, well if we’re going to speak truthfully, I’d also prefer that the next prez be more conservative than b*sh …
fascist is not a point on a continuum between conservative and liberal …
Alright, gang. I’m headed home.
See you in a bit.
Sandman @ 248
Yes he is. He is very the embodiment of movement conservatism and the true heir of Goldwater and Reagan. He has failed so spectacularly because he followed their flawed agenda.
safe driving T
Watch out for the idgits, TRex.
Have a good ride home, Trex.
Um, Christy graduated from Brown.
Are you sure you want that particular redhead mad atcha?
madmommy @ 252
Nor bother with finding quarters to house who knows how many nuns in the closed parishes.
Patrick 4/4 @ 211
My favorite new derivative…fuckerito!
Patrick 4/4 @ 211
Etymology:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck
And this interview that I post often-the truth from 1986. this is 21 minutes long but worth watching from where we stand now in relation to what was said. And, yes those seven words are mentioned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc
I am the fucking cows tail.
wangdangdoodle @ 257
and the deer, too! The poor white-tailed deer here in NoVA are unfortunately becoming road casualties once again this fall.
Loo Hoo. @ 221
I believe I read that the plan is not to do it by Bush-like decree, but to hand them legislation to do it and dare them to say that they have a right to healthcare but the rest of us don’t. Yes, it’s a stunt, but stunts to draw attention to political positions are part of what political campaigns are made of.
TexBetsy @ 250
Somehow I get the feeling that Barry Goldwater would not have thought very highly of Bush had he still been living while G.W. was president.
Haven’t read all comments, but cent sign, or alt 0162 gives you ¢ for those burdened with MSWindows
lee5 @ 217
Fuckin’ morons. George Dubya Boosh is not, never was, and never will be a conservative. He’s a war-mongering, statist, theocratic, crony-capitalist tool, but I know a true conservative when I see one, and he ain’t it.
wangdangdoodle @ 230
Four bits- four naughty bits.
well, a good g’damn night, everyone! jammie time!
what a bunch of f’king foul mouths you all are!
;-O
Patrick4/4 @#219:
“Thrusting, yearning, probing, cost-overrunning
rocketry.”
:o) :o) :o)
That new monitor you’re buying for me needs to be coffeeproof. :o)
night OC
Loo Hoo. @ 261
A personal favorite in my youth was “goatfucker”. A play on the then ubiquitous term “goat roper” for cowboys and other rednecks.
f*ckin-a right, OC — g’night ;-)
OldCoastie @ 271
and f*ckin proud of it too!
i gotta go too … ‘nite all.
madmommy @ 238
As well as calling out as hypocrites those critters who say that single-payer healthcare will bring about the end of the world while, at the same time, being covered by a single-payer system.
OldCoastie @ 269
if we were really foul, we would be ne-doublek-by-gawd-id
Loo Hoo. @ 261
Thanks Loo Hoo – LOVE it – furkerito and high ho Silver!
Redshift @ 154
BobbyG @ 178
my keyboard has obviously opted out. fuck. clink.
The most obscene words come in bunches, like Laffer Curve or Freedom Fighter, words that lie us out of sound practices into the Garden of Eden.
s @ 266
¢ Holy crap, it does!
‘nite lee5
I’d like to thank Ms. Wangdangdoodle for keeping everyone honest on the swear jar this evening. Most helpful, WWD. I saw that referee shirt and whistle the minute you came…
LoudounLib @ 263
Up here it has been the bears lately. A sign of how bad this summer was. There is no forage up high and they are coming way down into the valleys to fatten up for winter.
TRex @ 259
I thought that she went to Smith; I am not sure where I came up with that.
Maddy @ 262
Ah yes. Back when Crossfire seemed as low as we could sink.
DrDick @ 226
Hard to figure out how that could happen without a legislative fix, which seems rather … shall we say … unlikely.
Although if he promised to never act like a fucking Unitary Executive ever again, I might be persuaded to let President Edwards skate on this one.
It’s too bad TRex did not publish this particular post on Talk Like A Pirate Day.
That might have led to some interesting comments.
(Not that these aren’t…)
neurophius @ 265
Frankly, as someone who remembers the flaming lunatic, I think he would have loved Dubya, until everything started falling apart. Just like all the other conservatives.
What I took from the ad is more making people aware of the cush plan that congresscrutters have. And framing the debate so as to make those who oppose reform defend their position: “I’ve got the good health care but you can get fucked.”
Easy. Require them to get their health care at Walter Reed, like in the good ole days.
TRex @ 259
Christy’s a Smithie, not a Brownie.
Hiya, T! Great post.
Fuck
Ooh, Nova’s on here, finally!
DrDick @ 282
Speaking of which — sorta — there was a very cool article in the WaPo on Tuesday about cameras on the Appalachian Trail, capturing various wildlife at night. Worth a look imo.
greenwarrior @ 278
sorry for the first one being included with the second. i’d started to comment on the dog, but got distracted. it’s bizarrre, but that dog looks absolutely EXACTLY like a dog i had. she (my dog) died a natural death without ever having married a man. affairs with various dogs. period. end of sentence. it’s weird to see that photo.
bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word.bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word.bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word. bad word.bad word. bad word. bad word.. . . . .
marymccurnin @ 292
this made me think of camels and clowns – i am so sick
DrDick @ 272
Don’t forget TSF’s new favorite from the Antipode: softcock
TRex @ 259
I think I’m in the clear this time. From the “about us” page:
CTuttle @ 290
I had to change the channel.
A happy bit of NOLA news today, along with the Canal streetcars running again.
http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/f…..amp;coll=1
That is why the amount of public cursing on the left…blah, blah, blah
got ourselves a real cuss-toady battle here
Suzanne @ 251
Looks like it to me. Here’s the info.
BobbyG @ 228
That strikes me as being like the wingnuts saying he can’t advocate for the poor because he’s rich. Whether you agree it’s a good idea or not, the point of the congressional healthcare stunt is to apply it to people who can do something about it (and he does say he’ll apply it to himself and his cabinet as well.) Right now he’s not in such a position, so asking him to give it up now is not comparable to his proposal, it’s just asking him to give up what he has before he’s allowed to advocate for people who don’t. I really don’t think we want to be going there.
O/T, but, Fuck It…
OK, idea.
Campaign ad print piece done up as an “invoice” for $20,900 sent to voters.
30 Days Net, or we will send it to (outsourced) collection (and put a big derog in your Bureau), as your delinquency “harms our troops.”
Froomkin chatz at the fucken WaPo0 tomorrow at 1pm eastern
Suzanne @ 247
Me too (probably). Will e-mail.
burnspbesq @ 297
Thanks..I alway associated CHS with Smith but wasn’t sure why.
Redshift @ 301
OK. Point taken.
Steve-AR @ 306
Maybe because the S in CHS is Smith?
smapdi @ 298
Intelligent Design is a sad end-run around Darwin!
*indulges self in mild rant, cursing the fact that a) I’m on the east coast, and b) I’m working the weekend of the NorCal firepup meetup*
OT – for SF Bay pups: the delightful Oakland artist, 75-year-old Michael Grbich, will be tap-dancing across the Golden Gate Bridge from Marin at 10 AM on Sunday morning the 18th followed by a celebration party at his incomparable home high in the Oakland hills. Be there or be square!
http://www.michaelgrbich.com.
LoudounLib @ 309
We would be glad to have you move out here. You would love it.
CTuttle @ 308
No. It is a sad deadend run going no where. Anyone who believes in “Intelligent Design” either knows nothing about how biological systems actually work or has a very low opinion of the intelligence of their putative creator (or both).
OK, I hafta go pack. Will check in for Late Late.
persiflage @ 308
Nothing but net! *Swish*
Twain @ 311
Thank you! I know I would love it, from all that I’ve heard. That is one part of the country that I really need to see!
BobbyG @ 302
Sam Brownback and some Jersey GOP named Saxton have demanded the committee retract the report.
What is it with the GOPs and the retractions lately? Do they think retracting something makes it go away? Sorry, GOPs, everybody is talking about this now. It’s “out there,” as the Villagers say.
i’m really out of it. today i’ve read over 700 comments in just two posts (not here – 700 is a snap here). glenn greenwald and david neiwert ‘discuss’ ron paul. and then sadly, no and wiskeyfire jump in.
i’m finding the whole thing fascinating.
…
oops, almost forgot this evening’s theme.
i’ll borrow from ET: i hate this fucking war.
greenwarrior @ 294
Maybe she was reincarnated? *g*
It’s off to bed for me. Goodnight all!
Almost forgot…fuck em if they can’t take a joke!
punaise @ 201
Night MM.
g’night madmommy, sweet dreams
TeddySanFran @ 316
Like, uh, the uncontested $804 billion is fucking chump change.
Recall, too, it was all gonna pay for itself out of Iraqi oil revenue?
Methinks the Murdickies are going to regret tossing Judith Regan under the bus. Looks like she pulled a fast one and grabbed the axle and is going to run the bus off of a cliff on them.
Couldn’t happen to bigger swines.
-GSD
s @ 266
Thank¢ a lot!
from a new blog: http://jonathanturley.org/
Planted Question Controversy: Students Says Clinton Campaign Official Had List of Prepared Questions
The controversy over the planted questions by the Clinton campaign appears to be deepening. A student now alleges seeing a typed page of prepared questions that identified the type of person who should ask the question. It does not sound that a passing idea of a campaign worker. The response from Hillary Clinton has been tepid at best. While the FEMA officials were disciplined for their fake press conference, there is no indication that the Clinton campaign will take serious action in this case. For the full story, click here It is not a minor issue. The staging of these events has been repeatedly and rightly criticized when committed by the Bush Administration. Even before the FEMA controversy, the Bush Administration was chastized for feeding questions to troops and staging sessions. These Q & A sessions are supposed to be some of the few unrehearsed moments for candidates. Candidates today are so wired and rehearsed that such events become meaningless frauds if they are also staging the questions.
Aloha, MM!
LoudounLib @ 316
well, when you do, schedule some time in for Sonoma County–you’ve got a place to stay chez moi.
(And to Suz and other norCal pups…I’ll be with you in spirit Saturday. My brother-in-law came home from the hospital today, with hospice care. We’re in hover mode, as it’s only a matter of days, seemingly. Better half is with that family, and I’m holding down the fort….)
And that fucker Wolfowitz scoffed — scoffed!! — when asked if the war might cost as much as $75,000,000,000.
selise @ 318
I am not sure to make of the Glenn..Ron Paul thing….Ron Paul wants to give Constitutional right to a fertilize egg..that’s enough Ron Paul for me.
GSD @ 324
When she was doing Bernie, was she on the job? Book research?
;)
Sandman @ 248
I’ve gotta wonder how much of this is due to the diminishing group of people who identify as Republicans.
DrDick @ 283
In Ohio we’ve got sick deer. I think it’s called chronic wasting disease.
GSD @ 325
Heh, if ya wanna read the nitty-gritty details Smoking Gun has the Complaint in PDF(4pgs)…
(((( Laura )))) all my best to your brother-in-law, and you, and your family
Isn’t chronic wasting disease like scapies (prion-related…a la mad cow)? If so, beware teh homemade sausages!
Steve-AR @ 331
How does an egg vote?
CTuttle @ 315
Geez, and I wasn’t even trying to be a smartarse. I guess it just comes natural…
Margot @ 334
IIRC it is a Prion disease, like “Mad Cow”.
LoudounLib @ 336
Thanks, LL, I’ll pass it on. And I meant it about a vacation in wine country. (Our coast will look like your this year’s summer vacation! You better use the date stamp option!)
Iraqi Higher Education Being Destroyed by Militias Without U.S. Intervention
from JONATHAN TURLEY by jonathanturley
Reports from Iraq indicate that the once respected university system is being taken over by religious factions, which are killing professors and kidnapping students. (more…)
TexBetsy @ 342
Another sign that the surge is working!
-GSD
Laura Doty @ 336
Fuck yeah. Dont forget Kuru!
Im fucking hungry.
Peeking out of the shadows briefly.
For the PC people to get a ¢ sign you hold down the alt key and type 0162 on your 10 key pad.
Dr. Seuss wrote in anapestic tetrameter, which was also used by Lord Byron.
Now back to the shadows
Steve-AR @ 331
Just wait until those fertilized eggs want to exercise their right to bear arms!
Hi everyone…what’s up?
TeddySanFran @ 330
And then they made him president of the World Bank!!!
Heckuva job, Wolfie…
marymccurnin @ 293
’s lotta quarters there.
Margot @ 333
Yep. It’s a problem in elk as well (as I understand it, similar to mad cow disease). We do not yet have it here in the state, but it is present in several surrounding states. Fish, Wildlife and Parks constantly monitors for any introduction (I love it when actual wildlife biologists run these things). Given the amount of money the state earns from big game hunting related tourism, it is a big deal.
smapdi @ 344
Kuru is mad cows disease. A slow virus. Sucks.
Hey there katymine! Howz life?
Laura Doty @ 341
A west coast trip is for sure on my agenda in the future, and the wine country is a definite. Thanks so much for the invite, and I will definitely keep you posted if it becomes a reality any time soon :-)
Laura Doty @ 337
Yes, it’s related. Not good. But the poor deer, they aren’t afraid of humans, they’re very slow to move off roads, and I couldn’t get one to move until I stopped and honked at it 3 times. Then it sort of shambled off.
persiflage @ 346
Just as long as they don’t arm the bears. 8~)
CT,
Just read it.
I knew that when the anti-Semitism slur was thrown at her that Newscorp wanted her dead in a metaphorical sense.
Sweaty Roger Ailes is gonna be eating lots of Tums.
It’s gonna get tougher and tougher for Fux to carry Rudee’s water.
-GSD
Niters all you marvellous cussing late nite rascals and dear Suz. Have a long day tomorrow and evening event in the galleries. Sweet dreams dears!
marymccurnin @ 337
Only ~40% of fertilized ova make it to term. 50% fail to attach in utero, and another 10% subsequently miscarry.
That makes for roughly 2.5 million possibly “suspicious child deaths” a year in the U.S.
Fucking absurd. Make a frigging zygote a Constitutional “person.” Go right the fuck ahead.
(((lauradoty)))
Margot, that may be part of what’s happening here with the white-tails. For one, they’re being pushed out of their environment what with the over-development here; also I understand that it’s mating season, so the poor things are just running around like mad and being struck by cars everywhere :-(
Fetus Get Your Gun!
-GSD
DocSardonic @ 345
Thanks!
marymccurnin @ 350
Kuru is actually different from mad cow and I have seen a couple of articles indicating they are debating whether it is a retrovirus (like HIV) or a prion. Transmitted through the practice of ritually consuming your dead relatives.
Laura Doty @ 352
Lovely time at Pikes Market place in Seattle…. lunch at a Maximilians French restaurant and Bremerton Ferry across the bay on a bright sunny day…. back in Portland with glass of Malbec and nice fire to warm this poor desert person
TRex singing (really) upstairs
New fucking thread
g’night npb, sleep well :-)
marymccurnin @ 351
not a virus.
GSD @ 356
Aren’t they the primary water bearers?
Night ‘brat. Pleasant fucking dreams.
DocSardonic @ 345
I never knew that, in fact never heard of that kind of tetrameter.
Thanks.;)
TexBetsy @ 342
To go along with that, male Gynecologists are being threated and killed because it involves a male being involved with a females “private parts”. Ans since there are very few female gynecologists in Iraq, Iraqi women are SOL. ( sorry, don’t have the link handy.)
OK.. how can we possibly be more shrill and vitriolic than the Coulter/Malkin/Morgan trifecta, or Rush, or that idiot on CNN whose name I cannot even bring myself to mention (Mr “symbols of national pride and power” like the “flag and the cross”)… how many progressive bloggers advocate the blowing up of major American cities? Do we call for rethugs to be arrested, tried as traitors and shot solely on the basis of their expressed political (and sometimes just their ethical) beliefs? I don’t understand why there is even a debate here. If our mouth’s are dirty, their’s are downright blasphemous.
OT, but possibly some good news
There’s a chance that Prince Erik is toast…
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – FBI agents investigating the September 16 episode in which Blackwater security guards shot and killed 17 Iraqi civilians have found that at least 14 of the shootings were unjustified, The New York Times reported on Tuesday.
…looks like even shrubco’s cops think that badwater’re a pack of murderin’ hyenas (there? is calling Prince Erik’s thugs a pack of hyenas considered having a “dirty mouth”?)
And speaking about “dirty”.. this is pure vulgarity
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI…..index.html
The cost of the war is approximately $21,000, slated to rise to $46,000 in 2017 per household. Against this, one must consider that the median household income is presently $48,000 and stagnating. In 2017 nominal dollars this will equate to approximately $67,000. So, if I’m reading this right, by 2017, approximately 70% of the income of a typical family of 4 will go toward paying (the debt) on shrub’s War of Error…. Before this is over, we had better be able to expropriate the personal properties and possessions of shrubco members… We all get a share of the Crawford ranch. That’s only fair.
DocSardonic @ 345
¢ WOW! ¢ ¢
Wow!Fuckin’Ai been trying, like y’all been saying, but nobody said before to type the numbers from the keypad. It’s just ¢well to be havin’ some ¢ents.
oh sorry.. that $46,000 is cumulative, not per annum. Still… so on a present value basis, roughly 20% or so of that typical family’s income will go toward paying for this atrocity of a war.
Loo Hoo. @ 240
Ooh! The DiFi censure? Might be a lot of people going, even if they have to pay a registration fee!
cinnamonape @ 377
I think we need a state-wide discussion about expanding the scope of our recall statute
LoudounLib @ 360
Hi LL, yes, it sounds like it.
DrDick @ 313
Correct. They believe that God could do anything…except evolution. (Of course they then say that he could, but that’s not in the Bible…therefore demonstrating that their claims are religious assertions, not Scientific ones).
They believe God needed to impose a miracle every so often to “create” a new organism even though all the systems were already there in preceding organisms. It would be equivalent to saying that the engineers at Boeing threw out all their long history of prior design modifications to make the 757. That the 757 wasn’t simply a modified 727 but was completely “created anew”.
Almost all the assertions of the ID’ers regarding the absence of transitional systems have been shown to be demonstrably false. Every time they pose one, a biochemist or molecular biologist shows that there are precursory systems in related groups. The most recent case has been the discovery of opsin genes that relate to vision in many organisms existing in related forms that lack vision but are used for other functions.
Blub @ 378
Can’t do it without a Constitutional Amendment at the Federal level. There is no provision in the US Constitution for removal from office other than Congressional peers expelling a colleague.
California can’t change the State Constitution and do this.
cinnamonape @ 381
that’s a shame. ‘course, one might ask why we should be bound by this now that shrub has abrogated that great covenant. Viva California :)
Steve-AR @ 331
But take it away from kids who are BORN in the United States.
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/…..100206.htm
Paul wants to alter the Constitution to exclude “Natural Born” (Jus soli) citizenship that has been part of law extending back even further than the Declaration of Independance and Constitution. It is not just stated in the 14th Amendment (which dealt with the specific exclusion of Citizenship to slaves and Native Americans enunciated in the Constitution). But all others were covered by jus soli.
This is clear from the requirements of officeholders, such as the President
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
So Paul is hardly a “preserver” of the Constitution. He wants to change it (or pass laws contrary to it) to eliminate specific portions that he and his supporters find inconvenient.
marymccurnin @ 338
Children can be citizens (”natural born”) but are only eligible as citizens to vote or serve in certain offices upon reaching specified ages. The reference to this right is implicit when the Constitution refers to “natural born Citizens” (it’s also got a long history in English law…jus soli)
I’m still puzzled about how a corporation deserves citizenship rights though. The individuals within that corporation, okay. But how does a corporation “vote”? Serve in an office? How is it “born”?
Thus I dn’t see how a corporation can have unrestricted free speech rights and influence the political debate through financing campaigns.
BobbyG @ 358
Well there’s a simple way to end the “holocaust” of all those American citizens…according to the Encyclical of St. Ron Paul.
First off you have to identify and register new citizens. Just as all children who are born must have birth certificates, new citizens would have to be documented by “Conception certificates”. Which means monthly mandatory pregnancy tests given to every fecund female above age 12. Wouldn’t want to miss any new citizens.
Then you have to have laws that protect these fetal citizens from harm that might be done to them by their ignorant mothers. That means that a ban on smoking, drinking, athletic activity, etc. that might harm the “voiceless citizens. If there is a miscarriage (now defined as any death of the citizen prior to birth) then an investigation must ensue to ascertain cause…drug and alcohol tests and physical examination must ensue. Criminal charges of neglect and “fetal abuse” would then be pressed against the “maternal receptical”. The term of punishment would be similar to intentional neglect and abuse charges of a child.
And where possible embryos that have genetic or developmental defects would have to be protected from “spontaneous abortion” by the best efforts of Doctors. These “early citizens” have the right to life and medical treatment just as much as adults, no matter how physically deformed or mentally defective they are. Perhaps they could be trained to fill the jobs that the illegal aliens now hold.
And since many contraception methods also act to expel already fertilized eggs or prevent implantation, such forms of hormonal birth control would have to be outlawed. Wouldn’t want to risk harming a citizen simply for the carnal pleasure of her mother, now would we.
Amazing what the consequences would be of granting citizenship rights to conceptuses would be. We’d be living in a perfect Paulian utopia!
Just got here, so this is a late driveby.
Well, excuse me, but potty-mouth diatribes just do NOT turn me on. Politically, or in any other way. Potty mouth diatribes are the worst part of FDL, in my book, and are the least enjoyable part. I have a hard time seeing how they improve any line of argument, except for expressing feelings, and it seems to me that there are better ways to do that. In most places, writing with dirty words is either a mark of immaturity or pornography, and is a barrier to many people to taking FDL seriously. It’s as if the writer has a comment in the margin of his notes, “point weak here; use dirty words.” To me, dirty words are like bright shiny objects distracting attention from the main point.
Take this in the context that FDL is the first blog I read in the morning, and the main blog I read throughout the day.
So, sorry if any firepups are offended, but that is my honest reaction. If we want to be taken seriously, clean it up.
OK, I’m off the soapbox now.
Bob in HI
FU8CK YEAH THAT’S THE SHIT!
BobShacht; you’re spot on.
We really need to be into more the kind of calm rational discourse that worked so well 4 and a half years ago, to prevent what would have been a nasty and unending situation in Iraq… and to that end, I think I’ll lead the way…and clean up MY posts first.
To that end, I now promise to make kissy-face with the assehaules and all their bulleshitte, and I don’t give a phuque how many people they kill to try to sustain their clusterphuque!
I’ve presented
allmany of the reasons to say Fuck proudly in the form of a handy chart.Just remember what Lenny Bruce said about the use of the word fuck when it comes to criticizing the government.
Note to Prager: Lenny was even Jewish.
Typical Praeger. The guy has never listened to his own broadcasts. He has shocking, disgusting vocabulary and a mind to match. And then he has the nerve to hold himself up as an example that the rest of us should follow. When Praeger and Michael Jackson were both on ABC, he used to demean Jackson claiming Jackson was immoral. One day, even tried to make the same claim about Jackson, that he was profane. Someone called Jackson the next day about it and Jackson just laughed. He never responded to Praeger, never had to.
Oh yeah, he also pretends to be the Judeo-Christian ethical, honorable, decent, principled, just, honest, moral example that the rest of us should emulate. He he! Ha ha! Ho ho! Please, please get the guys with the butterfly nets and tranquilizers before I hurt myself laughing so hard.