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	<title>Comments on: NARAL Endorses Al Wynn Over Donna Edwards</title>
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		<title>By: Ann Marie Moriarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Marie Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am appalled. I was a national NARAL member for decades (still a Maryland member), but I haven’t renewed my national memembership since these clowns endorsed Lieberman. Now they’re endorsing Al Wynn — my awful Rep. I called him last election when I learned he’d taken money from Tom Delay’s PAC, and he had the nerve to tell me “that’s how the game is played.” The minute he feels safe from Edwards, he’ll stop acting like a Democrat and hang the “for sale” sign back on his office door.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am appalled. I was a national NARAL member for decades (still a Maryland member), but I haven’t renewed my national memembership since these clowns endorsed Lieberman. Now they’re endorsing Al Wynn — my awful Rep. I called him last election when I learned he’d taken money from Tom Delay’s PAC, and he had the nerve to tell me “that’s how the game is played.” The minute he feels safe from Edwards, he’ll stop acting like a Democrat and hang the “for sale” sign back on his office door.</p>
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		<title>By: herbal tee</title>
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		<dc:creator>herbal tee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NARAL has never been effective. And that’s a good thing because I’ve never seen a so called ‘liberal’ organization that has gotten it wrong so often for decades.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NARAL has never been effective. And that’s a good thing because I’ve never seen a so called ‘liberal’ organization that has gotten it wrong so often for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow. This is like a play by play flashback of HoJoe v. Lamont. These DC types really operate in the most narrow and unimaginative ways. Hope Donna wins. Maxine should get her but out there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. This is like a play by play flashback of HoJoe v. Lamont. These DC types really operate in the most narrow and unimaginative ways. Hope Donna wins. Maxine should get her but out there.</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
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		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NARAL supported Lieberman, even as an Independent candidate and even though &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/26/elec04.prez.lieberman.abortion/index.html&quot;&gt;he openly entertained the idea of withdrawing from his pro-choice stance&lt;/a&gt;.  Clearly, their strategy is to follow the graft wherever they can find it, in the true spirit of beltway banditry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NARAL supported Lieberman, even as an Independent candidate and even though <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/26/elec04.prez.lieberman.abortion/index.html">he openly entertained the idea of withdrawing from his pro-choice stance</a>.  Clearly, their strategy is to follow the graft wherever they can find it, in the true spirit of beltway banditry.</p>
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		<title>By: trip_wonders</title>
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		<dc:creator>trip_wonders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Need to find my remote and watch TV instead.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: trip_wonders</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/12/naral-endorses-al-wynn-over-donna-edwards/#comment-1093590</link>
		<dc:creator>trip_wonders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh uh, the other way around. Maybe both. Who knows?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh uh, the other way around. Maybe both. Who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: trip_wonders</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/12/naral-endorses-al-wynn-over-donna-edwards/#comment-1093589</link>
		<dc:creator>trip_wonders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing is clear, the DLC is owned by NARAL.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is clear, the DLC is owned by NARAL.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Swenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Swenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve contributed to NARAL in the past, but now when they call me for more, I just ask them why they supported Joe Lieberman. And now this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve contributed to NARAL in the past, but now when they call me for more, I just ask them why they supported Joe Lieberman. And now this.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1092731&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 123&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And where does that leave us? Obama opposed the war but was unable to vote against it. HRC supported the war with her vote. But has been unable to say she blew it (with that vote). Obama and Hillary vote for continued funding. There you have it. The reason I won’t vote for either of these two in the primary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edwards has retracted his vote in favor of the Iraq War Powers…what were his reasons for voting for it? I forget? Was it that Bush mislead him? That he got caught up in the hype about protecting Israel and the US from terrorists? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it sounds as if he is following the same mode of thinking with regard to Iran. This from his speech to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.herzliyaconference.org/Eng/_Articles/Article.asp?ArticleID=1728&amp;CategoryID=223&quot;&gt;Herzliya Conference&lt;/a&gt; in Israel earlier this year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;em&gt;One source of strength is the bond between Israel and the United States, which is a bond that will never be broken. For more than half a century both countries have benefited from this alliance. We share common values such as freedom and democracy. I was in Israel in 2001. I’ll never forget just as I was ending my visit, a Hamas suicide bomber wearing an explosive belt blew up the Sbarro pizzeria. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It made an impact on me to see the extraordinary sacrifice made by the Israeli people everyday. They continue to make sacrifices to ensure your security and achieve peace. I saw first hand the threats you face every day. I feel that I understand on a very personal level those threats. The challenges in your own backyard – rise of Islamic radicalism, use of terrorism, and the spread of nuclear technology and weapons of mass destruction – represent an unprecedented threat to the world and Israel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;At the top of these threats is Iran. Iran threatens the security of Israel and the entire world. Let me be clear: Under no circumstances can Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons.&lt;/b&gt;…The Iranian president’s statements such as his description of the Holocaust as a myth and his goals to wipe Israel off the map indicate that Iran is serious about its threats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Once Iran goes nuclear, other countries in the Middle East will go nuclear, making Israel’s neighborhood much more volatile.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Iran must know that the world won’t back down. The recent UN resolution ordering Iran to halt the enrichment of uranium was not enough. &lt;/b&gt;We need meaningful political and economic sanctions. We have muddled along for far too long. b&gt;To ensure that Iran never gets nuclear weapons, we need to keep ALL options on the table, Let me reiterate – ALL options must remain on the table.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The war in Lebanon had Iranian fingerprints all over it.&lt;/b&gt; I was in Israel in June, and I took a helicopter trip over the Lebanese border. I saw the Hezbollah rockets, and the havoc wreaked by the extremism on Israel’s border. &lt;b&gt;Hezbollah is an instrument of the Iranian government, and Iranian rockets allowed Hezbollah to attack and wage war against Israel.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I cannot talk about the war last summer without referring to the Syrian role in destabilizing area. Syria needs to be held accountable. Syria has recently called for peace talks with Israel. Talk is cheap. Syria needs to go long way to prove it is ready for peace. &lt;b&gt;It can start by not harboring terrorists and ending its nefarious relationship with Iran.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While Iran is the greatest threat now, but just as alarming is the one on your doorstep.&lt;b&gt; Hamas, with Iranian support, doesn’t make any mistake of its intentions to wipe out Israel, and repeatedly makes calls to raise the banner of Allah over all of Israel.&lt;/b&gt;…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…Israel not only has the right to defend itself, it has an obligation to defend itself. This means continuing to ensure Israel’s military strength, diplomatically and economically. The hurdles are clear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My analysis of Iran is if you start with the President of Iran coming to the UN in New York denouncing America and his extraordinary and nasty statements about the Holocaust and goal of wiping Israel off map, married with his attempts to obtain nuclear weapons over a long period of time, they are buying time. &lt;b&gt;They are the foremost state sponsors of terrorism. If they have nuclear weapons, other states in the area will want them, and this is unacceptable./b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As to what to do,&lt;b&gt; we should not take anything off the table.&lt;/b&gt; More serious sanctions need to be undertaken, which cannot happen unless Russia and China are seriously on board, which has not happened up until now. &lt;b&gt;I would not want to say in advance what we would do, and what I would do as president, &lt;/b&gt;but there are other steps that need to be taken. For example, we need to support direct engagement with Iranians, we need to be tough. But I think it is a mistake strategically to avoid engagement with Iran.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As to the American people, this is a difficult question. The vast majority of people are concerned about what is going on in Iraq. &lt;b&gt;This will make the American people reticent toward going for Iran. &lt;/b&gt;But I think the American people are smart if they are told the truth, and &lt;b&gt;if they trust their president Americans can be educated to come along with what needs to be done with Iran.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1092731"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 123</em></a></p>
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<p>And where does that leave us? Obama opposed the war but was unable to vote against it. HRC supported the war with her vote. But has been unable to say she blew it (with that vote). Obama and Hillary vote for continued funding. There you have it. The reason I won’t vote for either of these two in the primary.</p>
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<p>Edwards has retracted his vote in favor of the Iraq War Powers…what were his reasons for voting for it? I forget? Was it that Bush mislead him? That he got caught up in the hype about protecting Israel and the US from terrorists? </p>
<p>But it sounds as if he is following the same mode of thinking with regard to Iran. This from his speech to the <a href="http://www.herzliyaconference.org/Eng/_Articles/Article.asp?ArticleID=1728&amp;CategoryID=223">Herzliya Conference</a> in Israel earlier this year.</p>
<p> <em>One source of strength is the bond between Israel and the United States, which is a bond that will never be broken. For more than half a century both countries have benefited from this alliance. We share common values such as freedom and democracy. I was in Israel in 2001. I’ll never forget just as I was ending my visit, a Hamas suicide bomber wearing an explosive belt blew up the Sbarro pizzeria. </em></p>
<p>It made an impact on me to see the extraordinary sacrifice made by the Israeli people everyday. They continue to make sacrifices to ensure your security and achieve peace. I saw first hand the threats you face every day. I feel that I understand on a very personal level those threats. The challenges in your own backyard – rise of Islamic radicalism, use of terrorism, and the spread of nuclear technology and weapons of mass destruction – represent an unprecedented threat to the world and Israel.</p>
<p><b>At the top of these threats is Iran. Iran threatens the security of Israel and the entire world. Let me be clear: Under no circumstances can Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons.</b>…The Iranian president’s statements such as his description of the Holocaust as a myth and his goals to wipe Israel off the map indicate that Iran is serious about its threats.</p>
<p><b>Once Iran goes nuclear, other countries in the Middle East will go nuclear, making Israel’s neighborhood much more volatile.</b></p>
<p><b>Iran must know that the world won’t back down. The recent UN resolution ordering Iran to halt the enrichment of uranium was not enough. </b>We need meaningful political and economic sanctions. We have muddled along for far too long. b&gt;To ensure that Iran never gets nuclear weapons, we need to keep ALL options on the table, Let me reiterate – ALL options must remain on the table.</p>
<p><b>The war in Lebanon had Iranian fingerprints all over it.</b> I was in Israel in June, and I took a helicopter trip over the Lebanese border. I saw the Hezbollah rockets, and the havoc wreaked by the extremism on Israel’s border. <b>Hezbollah is an instrument of the Iranian government, and Iranian rockets allowed Hezbollah to attack and wage war against Israel.</b></p>
<p>I cannot talk about the war last summer without referring to the Syrian role in destabilizing area. Syria needs to be held accountable. Syria has recently called for peace talks with Israel. Talk is cheap. Syria needs to go long way to prove it is ready for peace. <b>It can start by not harboring terrorists and ending its nefarious relationship with Iran.</b></p>
<p>While Iran is the greatest threat now, but just as alarming is the one on your doorstep.<b> Hamas, with Iranian support, doesn’t make any mistake of its intentions to wipe out Israel, and repeatedly makes calls to raise the banner of Allah over all of Israel.</b>…</p>
<p>…Israel not only has the right to defend itself, it has an obligation to defend itself. This means continuing to ensure Israel’s military strength, diplomatically and economically. The hurdles are clear.</p>
<p>My analysis of Iran is if you start with the President of Iran coming to the UN in New York denouncing America and his extraordinary and nasty statements about the Holocaust and goal of wiping Israel off map, married with his attempts to obtain nuclear weapons over a long period of time, they are buying time. <b>They are the foremost state sponsors of terrorism. If they have nuclear weapons, other states in the area will want them, and this is unacceptable./b&gt;</b></p>
<p>As to what to do,<b> we should not take anything off the table.</b> More serious sanctions need to be undertaken, which cannot happen unless Russia and China are seriously on board, which has not happened up until now. <b>I would not want to say in advance what we would do, and what I would do as president, </b>but there are other steps that need to be taken. For example, we need to support direct engagement with Iranians, we need to be tough. But I think it is a mistake strategically to avoid engagement with Iran.</p>
<p>As to the American people, this is a difficult question. The vast majority of people are concerned about what is going on in Iraq. <b>This will make the American people reticent toward going for Iran. </b>But I think the American people are smart if they are told the truth, and <b>if they trust their president Americans can be educated to come along with what needs to be done with Iran.</b> </p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1092731&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 123&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1092723&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 116&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Obama’s point, though, is that he’s the only Senator running for President who did not vote to authorize the Preznit to go to war in Irak.  It’s clever wording, and leaves the impression he voted against it.  But he didn’t, because he couldn’t.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And where does that leave us? Obama opposed the war but was unable to vote against it. HRC supported the war with her vote. But has been unable to say she blew it (with that vote). Obama and Hillary vote for continued funding. There you have it. The reason I won’t vote for either of these two in the primary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Senator Feingold OPPOSED the Iraq War Resolution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1092723"><em>TeddySanFran @ 116</em></a></p>
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Obama’s point, though, is that he’s the only Senator running for President who did not vote to authorize the Preznit to go to war in Irak.  It’s clever wording, and leaves the impression he voted against it.  But he didn’t, because he couldn’t.</p>
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<p>And where does that leave us? Obama opposed the war but was unable to vote against it. HRC supported the war with her vote. But has been unable to say she blew it (with that vote). Obama and Hillary vote for continued funding. There you have it. The reason I won’t vote for either of these two in the primary.</p>
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<p>Senator Feingold OPPOSED the Iraq War Resolution.</p>
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