Have you guys seen the SwiftKids for Truth ads? They’re hilarious, but kind of painful as well.
“Hillary Clinton,” opines one kid, “is a thief.”
“She stole stuff from the White House,” adds another, “Like towels and plates and other stuff.”
“Hillary Clinton’s not a woman,” says one particularly adorable little girl, adding emphatically, “She’s a man.”
In the John Edwards ad, we are informed by a precious, mop-topped little boy, “John Edwards paid over four thousand dollars…to get his nails done.”
The painful part is, of course, that these made-up attacks aren’t really all that far off than the sorry-ass election coverage we get from Serious People in the Media, now are they? Basically what is passing for substantive debate about the 2008 election in this country is a jumped up, over-funded form of schoolyard bullying.
Tucker Carlson on Hillary Clinton:
“I have often said that when she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs.”
“I was going to talk about John Edwards, but I understand that now you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot’.”
Right Wing disinformation hub, “Newsbusters” on Barack Obama:
Have a look at the photo from the October 1, 2007 edition of “Time.” It shows Obama, Hillary and Bill Richardson at the Steak Fry of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) on September 17 in Indianola, IA during [according to the photo caption] the National Anthem. Richardson and Clinton have their hands on their heart. But not Obama. Does he perhaps believe that, like wearing the flag pin, the hand on the heart isn’t “true patriotism”?
So, basically, what we have here is, “Oh, my god, Hillary is so ugly and dykey! What man would want her?“, “John Edwards is gaaaaay! Faggot, faggot, faggot! Nyah, nyah!”, and “Barack didn’t say the pledge in home room this morning! He must be an atheist! Or a commie!”
Stir in the various smears going on out there about the Clinton marriage, the fascination with John Edwards’ hair, and the ongoing flap about whether Barack Obama is really second cousins with Osama bin Laden and secretly Saddam Hussein’s brother-in-law, and we have what may well be the dumbest pre-election media environment in American history. We have Matt Drudge and Mike Allen of the Politico to thank for that, among others. Chris Matthews has occasional moments of lucidity, but then (when he isn’t trying to convince Laura Ingraham to breast-feed him), at the least provocation, he’ll go diving headlong right back into the Clintons’ underwear drawer.
Christy and Teddy both hit this topic yesterday, highlighting a recent survey from the Center for Politics, Policy, and Media that said this is not what Americans want:
Most citizens, whether they are following the campaign closely or not, have some clear ideas of the kind of coverage they prefer. In a new poll produced for this report by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, nearly eight-in-ten Americans (77%) say they want more coverage of “the candidates’ positions on issues” than they are getting. Just 17% say they want less coverage of candidates’ positions.
Because really, what has the media provided us in terms of explaining the differences in how Hillary, Obama, and Edwards would govern? Anything? We’ve heard about what they’re wearing, how they fix their hair, how they look in a bathing suit, okay. We’ve got more Perez Hilton style information on these people than we will ever, ever need.
We’ve got another debate coming up on Thursday. Could someone please ask the candidates something like, “Take us two years into your presidency, if you are elected president, in 2010, what will our trade relationship with China be like?”
Or even, “Do you agree with the Bush administration’s approach to the privacy of American citizens? What will you do differently to assure us that our government isn’t listening in on our private phone calls?”
Seriously, ask them something smart, please. I don’t give two shits what Barack Obama’s favorite verse of the Bible is. How in the hell is that supposed to help us decide who to vote for? “Senator, what is your favorite fragment of a badly translated 2000-year-old book that people have used to persecute and malign each other for millenia?”
Worthless.
Please. We need to know more about how these people would govern so that we can make informed choices. We’re not stupid like Republicans. We can handle some hard facts, here. I promise our eyes won’t glaze over as soon as the conversation gets more complicated than the back of a cereal box. You can save the “See Dick Run” stuff for the dittoheads. They will thank you.
Here, I have a place for you to start. I got a note from the Edwards campaign today alerting us to the fact that they have issued a comprehensive policy manual that you can download and study. It’s only 80 pages. I feel fairly certain that you can make an intern read it between now and Thursday if you’re too lazy to read it yourself.
Please, Big Media. This is probably the most important and historic political race that most of us will see in our lifetimes. Would it kill you to take it to a new level for once?
Thank you. From all of us.



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Hiya Late Nite Pups!
TRex!
TRex!!!!!!
mm, dang you’re fast. hi TRex!
Howdy, TRex.
Hiya TRex! Hi y’all!
Evening, Trex, evening, all!
TRex !!
Dayam! Yous guys is fast!!
Hi all
FunnyDiva
Hey, everybody!
How’s everybody doing?
Evening all. Hows life in the Lake these days? Think you’re chasing a lost cause there TRex. The MSM is hopelessly compromised and apparently incapable of reforming.
TRex – all fluff and no substance – that is what passes for news now (spitting)
buncha fluffers is what they really are.
Excellent as always, TRex. I let downstairs know.
A little late for…
FITZ!
(Hi Trex, now to read.)
Is there a long line for those “reading interns”? And can they do the shopping too?
Great post and it’s only going to happen in your wildest fucking dreams.
Hillary Clinton is a man? But…how…so, does that make Bill Clinton gay? Or is he a woman? I’m confused.
Suzanne @ 13
Except that fluffers prolly enjoy their work.
Would it kill ‘em, TRex asks.
Ay-yep.
TRex, spot on. Yet another stellar post. The MSM won’t notice or comment on smoke or fire as the building burns down around them.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 5
If Suzanne happens to pop into the thread before Late Night, I open a new window and refresh like mad. Rarely works though, but it did today.
Evening everyone!
Like Scrooge McDuck with a pool full of dubloons, he is
;>)
TRex @ 19
and they admit they are fluffers
TRex @ 19
And are engaged in a more socially useful and productive line of work.
WangDang! Great to see you here.
OK, I read. And I’m just a little tired of being treated like a twelve year old. Or nine year old.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 26
Ditto!
Intelligent questions, intelligent answers, I know it’s not asking for much… 8-(
They like sexy fluff.
Problem is, dear theropod, that the TradMed Overlords’ candidates lose on substance. The GOPs also lose on “have a beer with” but that’s more easily lied about.
If TradMed told us the truth about what candidates would do, GOPs would always lose. And we can’t have that, now can we?
wangdangdoodle @ 27
Me too! ;)
Evening, all. In answer to your question, TRex, I am OK, all things considering. My almost-14-year-old ADD kid did algebra homework for seven hours straight today. I think that qualifies as a breakthrough of sorts.
Just for the moment, we’ll ignore the fact that all of that homework was supposed to get done over a two-week period that ended last Friday. A victory is still a victory.
The usual line of thinking is that Bill is a degenerate but (wink) (wink) hay what do you expect he is married to an ugly, shrill dyke.
Evening all. Other than not-for-profit news and a dose of Fairness Doctrine, how do we get the news media we NEED? Give conglomerates 100% tax-deductability for news operations, with the demand they be independent, maybe?
hear-hear, TRex!
wangdangdoodle @ 27
Given the quality of contemporary news reporting, that would be a retarded 9 year old.
Good to see you Wangdang. How’s things shaking?
I gotta say the image of Laura Ingraham breast-feeding Tweety would be the perfect Repug GOTV commercial: “Howdy boys, come and git sum!”
Why does Tucker Carlson cross his legs when he sees Hillary? Does he get so scared he wets himself? Is he afraid she’s going to kick him in the crotch?
burnspbesq @ 33
kudos to the kid!
TeddySanFran @ 31
Many Dems too, Teddy!
CTuttle @ 29
Waaaaay to much for our esteemed MSM. They are much to busy covering the latest on Britney and Edwards’ haircuts, and missing white girls, and all the important stuff.
TRex @ 11
I am scrubbing wallpaper paste off bedroom wall. Yech. I really dislike previous owners who are inept DIY’s.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand a thing when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” — Upton Sinclair.
“It is difficult to get a member of the GOP/Media Complex to report accurately and honestly on a thing when his or her salary depends on not reporting it accurately and honestly.” — Phoenix Woman.
cleter @ 39
He’s afraid she’s going to steal his magic beans.
Mad Dogs @ 38
‘Live from Tweety’s Titty City, home of the Big Fluff’
;>)
cleter @ 39
To hide his boner…;-)
cleter @ 39
She is going to cut off his little pee-pee
because she is a commie pinko lesbian baby killer.
I get ot come in late tomorrow, the boss said so. Hi grrrlll, madmom, snarky!
hillary stole frogs from the white house :’(
I did like this hit piece on hillary tho.
gentle reminder
no jokes belittling people with handicaps physical, emotional or mental.
thank you and i now return you to your normal thread.
Who the hell would want Tucker’s magic beans?
I am grown-up sitting and cousin-sitting.
cleter @ 39
apparently *ucker has some mother/castration issues and Hillary scares him… bad…
burnspbesq @ 33
Woooo-Hooo! Take your victories where you can get them. Every little step forward is a good thing.
Who will moderate this debate? Will it be only men again?
DrDick @ 37
Hey good doctor, things are shakin’ all over!
Suzanne @ 51
Suzanne, do you mean Tucker???
Psychologist Philip Zimbardo came to speak at a community college here in Columbus last month. I recorded the whole talk, which was an hour long. The whole thing was fascinating, but I set myself the modest goal of transcribing only the last eight minutes. Those last minutes of the lecture were the uplifting, hopeful part, and, I don’t know about you, but I sure could use more of that in my daily life.
TeddySanFran @ 45
Priceless.
cleter @ 39
Truly. I mean, there’s nothing there to protect anyway.
Steve-AR @ 34
For no reason that I can think of, I am getting a great deal of amusement out of the fact that Hillary’s college roommate is an Obama supporter.
Steve-AR, nope, i consider him to be fair game.
Mad Dogs @ 38
Did darkblack do that?
TeddySanFran @ 45
Hard to imagine there’s any magic in *those* beans.
Phoenix Woman @ 44
Yep.
Every day I get up in the morning and thank the powers that be that I live in a country in which federal election campaigns are only 36 days long.
TeddySanFran @ 56
well, that’s a safe bet.
Suzanne @ 51
I apologize for implying that Tucker Carlson is incontinent, or has a wee pee-pee. We should not mock right-wing wetters or small pee-pee possessors.
Suzanne @ 51
Wait — is “inept DIY” now a protected class?
Or is “little pee-pee”?
burnspbesq @ 33
Hey, Burnsie — did you hear the NPR story tonight about how ADD is something that most who have it will eventually outgrow? Apparently the parts of the brain that control attention spans aren’t as mature in ADD kids as in the general kid-age population, but that this section of the brain usually does mature; it just takes a little longer. (He should be OK in another year or two.)
TeddySanFran @ 56
A minor edit, if you don’t mind?
cleter @ 69
See my fair game comment above. (laughing) that was not what i was referring to
cleter @ 52
Matt Drudge…He thought they were quail eggs.
;>)
cleter @ 52
He has magic beans? I would have sworn he was singing soprano.
clarification
i was referring to words such as retard not tucker’s little man complex.
cleter @ 39
He’s got more important things to worry about — his show’s ratings are so bad that MSNBC is apparently thisclose to cutting off that part of his wingnut-welfare subsidy. (They would have done so last year but he offered to cut his salary in half just to stay on the air.)
TeddySanFran @ 56
a lobbyist is lobbyist
darkblack @ 46
OMG, I’m soooo glad there wasn’t a link with that…
FunnyDiva
I imagine Li’l Tucker got kicked in the crotch quite a bit at whatever effete little lordling prep school he attended. You’d think he would have gotten used to it.
burnspbesq @ 33
Good for him. I was an ADD and hated every day I was in school until college. This was long before there was even that diagnosis. I think, for me, drugs would have helped.
darkblack! Got any pictures for us tonight that we might hesitate to click on?
Funnydiva2002 @ 79
Ah, but the night is young and darkblack’s talents are legendary.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 43
*starts laughing helplessly*
You are *so* right. That’s all I’ve done ever since I’ve moved in here. Love the house, want to strangle the previous owners!!!
Renee in Ohio @ 59
thank you! i read your link, it is good to be reminded, and to know that i’m in the company of a bunch of brave Pups who inspire me.
cleter @ 80
All I know is he stopped wearing the bow tie last year. Does that mean anything?
cleter @ 80
Or even to like it.
Phoenix Woman @ 71
I did hear that — and thank you for reminding me to go download that paper and give it to him.
cleter @ 39
He has the same response when his mother walks in the room.
Suzanne @ 76
Oh come on…Tucker’s not complex at all.
In fact, quite the obverse – Yet he has a way to go before he might attain a true state of Beckitude.
;>)
wangdangdoodle @ 82
My favorite this week.
;>)
Hey, gang, I’m here, just backstage working on Late Late Nite cos tonight is going to have to be a particularly in-depth grocery run.
Talk amongst yourselves.
Phoenix Woman @ 77
When I heard that, I was surprised to learn he was paid a salary at all. I thought his time was all Ambassador- and Swanson-subsidized.
(Every time you open a can of Swanson broth, Tucker gets a nickel!)
Renee in Ohio @ 59
Phoenix Woman @ 71
That is really interesting…maybe it explains why I survived an additional 16 years of education after High School.
You crack my fucking shit up, mary!
db, i LOVE that – had me laughing out loud
luckily i know not to drink or eat anything before clicking on your links
peanutbutter @ 84
We looked at a house that had every wall done in a variation of a Ralph Lauren floral wallpaper. Every stinking room! I couldn’t even look at anything in the house without thinking about how much work it would take to get rid of that ugly wallpaper.
marymccurnin @ 89
Did his mom do that to him??
Well, I think I’ve gotten all the comedy gold out of Tucker’s crotch that I can for one evening. I should stop mentioning Tucker’s crotch now. Although…doesn’t Tucker’s Crotch sound like a small town near Dollywood?
darkblack @ 90
Hall of Fame material! I missed it the first time, thanks for the encore.
I wanna see Tucker Carlson’s hair fight Byron York’s hair.
cleter @ 39
Maybe he’s afraid he’ll get a boner on TV?
cleter @ 99
Near Grinders Switch I believe.
cleter @ 99
3 hollers over…
wangdangdoodle @ 15
Hello Wangdang…just wanted to say that was great barbeque at the Central Texas Firepups get together. Enjoyed the eats and getting to know you all. Marilyn
Loo Hoo. @ 103
Has he interviewed Gannon?
Suzanne @ 96
‘Ah, but the pharma lobbies! That’s where I had them, with geometric logic I tells ya…’
;>)
cleter @ 99
Google bomb?
Loo Hoo. @ 102
I’m sorry, but that is the only thing smaller than his IQ.
peanutbutter @ 84
(((( pb )))) we could do an illustrated book together *g* If i were a creative writer i would do an essay on “Inept DIYs and How They Destroyed the Country We Love.” As i grumble curses while scrubbing, i am more and more certain that idiot previous owner was a rethug.
SnarKassandra @ 97
His mom and his dad. Of course, at some point, he has to take responsibility for not be able to deal with Hillary, life, or his haircut.
Twain @ 103
Ya go east when ya get up to Ole 60 Grit.
Loo Hoo. @ 102
Woo-hoo, Loo Hoo! How you bean, little pinto?
Get tough deny Chris and Tucker a single interview with even the Janitor from the Dodd campaign.
Any network that has Ann Coulter as a guest and doesn’t refute her lies deserves to get banned.
Tucker is probably going to be replaced anyway. Chris is one step away I don’t see why we have to go on any other show than KO.
If the GOP don’t like it well there is an African American and a Hispanic debate they could attend.
Do GOPers like Ann Coluter or Rudy even go on tv shows unless the qustions the host can ask are agreed in advance?
After all has anybody asked Rudy about hiring a pedophile priest? About his State Presidential Chairman who buys half bricks of Coke for a party?
Hey Rudy who was on the guest list state and/or national GOPers?
Has Tweety ever confronted Ann about the Al Franken book? You would think a hard ball guy would ask the hard questions and demand an answer.
After all Tweety certainly is asking Hilary alot of tough questions.
Because really, what has the media provided us in terms of explaining the differences in how Hillary, Obama, and Edwards would govern? Anything?
That’s the crux of the issue, isn’t it? You can get better quality information, both good or bad, from the candidates’ own websites than you can from what I’ve seen on the broadcast news. Maybe I’m missing something because I don’t get cable, but it’s sure not on Fox, and I doubt it’s on CNN.
I imagine this is the most attention that Tucker’s Crotch has gotten in quite some time.
Marilyn In Texas @ 105
I want your potato salad recipe! And you are too nice, I know I burnt the chicken. But it was so great to hang out with you! How’s the Mr.?
Steve-AR @ 94
I dunno – I’d question that about growing out of ADD. I think it more likely that adults learn ways to cope/compensate as they mature. They also have more control over their environments, get into jobs or studies that interest them and fit with how their brains work, and develop strategies for coping. Plus there is a lot more going on with ADD than just attention spans.
I’m speaking here as someone who was diagnosed with ADHD around the age of 50.
madmommy @ 97
now that is a cringe-worthy image
cleter @ 116
Nay. He is always checking to see if the little head is still there. Like every ten minutes or so. If he was on PBS he would really be in trouble. No breaks.
Cujo359 @ 115
Nope. What passes for in depth political reporting is Edwards’ haircuts, Hillary’s tips, Obama’s black, oh and just how dreamy and manly is Fred Thompson?
Absolutely harrowing video reporting from war in Afghanistan, on Nightline.
cleter @ 52
Coultergeist?
madmommy @ 98
Why do you hate tiny flowers?
Suzanne @ 112
It’s a bit around the bend, think. More than a bit, actually.
cleter @ 116
It’s all about the hustle.
;>)
cleter @ 116
Shoot, I keep gettng a mental of a little bow tie just above it.
darkblack, care to indulge?
I promise to hesitate to click on it.
smapdi @ 124
Tiny flat Ralphie flowers.
cleter @ 99
BWAhaha! (ndfg mutters to self, dang, where’s the paper towel & dabs at monitor)
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 119
Oh, so you bought my mom’s house. My sympathies.
I tried to talk her out of some of it, but what can you do?
cleter @ 39
I’d imagine most people would be tempted to do that to Tucker, so surely it must be something more specific with Hillary…
(Personally, I have no respect for anyone who has problems with strong women. Castration anxiety is for wimps.)
burnspbesq @ 88
Actually it’s directed at ADHD, not ADD, but, here’s the link…
http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..d=16227385
TeddySanFran @ 92
I didn’t know that. Haven’t eaten anything Swanson in years, but good to know just the same.
Fern @ 118
I know that I have had several students who had issues with it into their mid-20s at least and have heard of other older adults with the problem as well. I think it varies from person to person, but it is no reason not to hope, Burns.
Peterr @ 125
Pass the brain bleach, please.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 119
The worst part was the agent found a new house for the owners and all the woman wanted was to put up the same ugly-assed paper in the new house. When she found out it had been discontinued she was inconsolable. It probably would have been bearable in a powder room or an accent wall, but not every wall in the house.
Suzanne @ 112
it’s all right turns
Things Come Undone @ 115
I never understood Tweety and Mr. Potato Head. One worked for Tip O’Neill, the other for Moynihan. Both of them try to rip Democrats to shreds. Were both dropped on their heads as kids? Their wives beat them with a frying pan?
Totally OT…but since it is still Veterans Day where I live, this is a sad but good read…The Marlboro Marine
LaTimes
darkblack @ 126
ROTFLMAO!
smapdi @ 124
These were big bouquets of flowers, with tiny ones interspersed. Probably cost an arm and a leg, too.
Nice post TRex… sharp, focused, carbide tipped.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 137
And it’s always downhill, if you’re willing to believe …
darkblack @ 126
I luurrvvs that one, db!
This week’s fav is my all time fav i believe, db.
CTuttle @ 132
They just renamed it – ADHD is now the standard term, not ADD.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 137
is why the phrase ‘turning the corner’ was discontinued
wangdangdoodle @ 113
A-OK!! Saw the pics from your Texas round-up. What a beautiful spot, and prescient that you had a donkey on hand! You look a lot different than your facebook page, WWD. Did you see our pics?
Where been ya?
Steve-AR @ 139
Saw that this morning. Truly sad. Much like Ira Hayes. War maims everyone it touches in one way or another. Some just heal better than others.
wangdangdoodle @ 86
Only that auto-erotic asphyxiation is not all it’s cracked up to be.
Patrick 4/4 @ 150
Oh Gawd!
madmommy @ 98
Based on my own experience, I think the worst DIY disasters could be prevented if some kind of test was required before purchasing wallpaper. There are certainly other offenses (let me tell you about paneling painted over in white), but wallpaper is definitely the gateway drug.
DrDick @ 149
KO had a segment on it – talked about how he was abandoned by our government and the help came from the photographer that took the picture.
marymccurnin @ 151
Is that a quote?
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 123
Oh, dear: now I have an image in my head that no amount of brain bleach will eliminate. Annie in (well, sort of halfway out of) her omnipresent lil black dress, drunkenly crooning Liz Phair’s song “HWC” to an equally drunk Tucky.
Cujo359 @ 115
Seems like the debates so far have just been stamina contests. Hillary lost the last one because she had to debate the other candidates AND the moderator, who attacked her more than her competition.
Loo Hoo. @ 148
I been working, girlfriend! Where can I see y’alls pics?
Fern @ 118
And I’m speaking as someone whose had ADD and Asperger’s all my life. The Diagnostic and Statistical manual reports that people tend to grow out of it. A lot of very good doctors use that book. There is the alternative, that some people just don’t pay attention, and Hans Asperger was wrong. I’m not sure I believe that, but I blamed an awful lot on my Asperger’s that had nothing to do with it. I’m gonna get flamed, especially because I take a lot of medication, but sometimes, if you want the truth, a lot of people with that DX just slide. Before anyone jumps on me, I’m one of the moderators of one of the biggest AS boards in the world. I can’t take credit for starting it, but I do an awful lot of work for them….for nothing.
Fern @ 146
My Son’s Psychiatrist would beg to differ, ADD doesn’t entail the Hyperactivity experienced by ADHD patients…
Patrick 4/4 @ 150
Don’t believe we’ve met.
burnspbesq @ 155
just lean back, close your eyes and think beige, i think i’ll paint the ceiling beige
Fern @ 67
… and that Neocon journalists who favor torture are canned … au revoir, Rachel Marsden …
Evenin’ all !
Redshift @ 152
Heh. Step away from the double rolls and the paste. Don’t you know that stuff will ruin your life? It starts so innocent, just a border around the ceiling, no big deal. Before you know it you’re selling off your retirement to buy butt-ugly, obscenely overpriced floral wallpaper.
wangdangdoodle @ 117
Right now he has a cold and I’m trying valiantly not to catch it from him. Chicken salad: new potatoes, diced onions, chopped green onions with all the green, 1/4 lb fried bacon, crumbled. Add bacon grease to the potatoes and all; add a little mayo to taste, season with sea salt and white pepper. Oh, and boiled eggs, about 4.
wangdangdoodle @ 160
Hiya! I’ve been away for a while.
cleter @ 39
I think it’s called Koro, or in China “Shook yang”. It’s a form of hysterical “p*nis panic”…where the male believes his penis is retracting because of witchcraft. See, Tucker is protecting himself from Hillary’s evil curses…or perhaps she once offered him a “”Penis-melting Zionist cyborg comb”. I think we can assure Tucker that he can exclude the “v*gina dentata” theory since none of Hillary’s female friends lack tongues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_panic
*edited
darkblack @ 126
Perfect! Took me a minute to catch the lighter in Tucker’s hand.
Hi WangDang! Good to see you. And how are the chickens enjoying their Poultry Cadillac Chicken Tractor?
madmommy @ 136
Sometimes it can work in your favor, though. Some friends of mine got a decent price on a house because apparently they were the only ones looking who could visualize that if you took down all the ugly-ass wallpaper and borders it would be a nice house (and were willing to do the work.) We got to hear the tale and see a remnant of the former horror that was still visible in one closet.
CTuttle @ 159
As I understand it, they are related, but distinct disorders. ADHD is the more extreme form (or at least most disruptive).
CTuttle @ 47
I bet that’s why he had to ‘perform’ half of his dance on Dancing with the Stars while seated in a chair.
So maybe you’re right!
Redshift @ 152
I once had an oldish house that had been completely papered – walls and ceilings – the ceilings, people! – with white vinyl wallpaper. and after I dumped my husband and started on a binge of therapeutic wallpaper-stripping, I soon found out why. There were up to 7 layers of other wallpaper underneath it. I steamed and stripped down to the original layer, which had been applied to unprimed plaster with some horrible hide-based glue. Fortunately, my rage at my ex-husband and the wallpaper appliers sustained me through the whole horrible job.
Marilyn In Texas @ 164
I knew there was more to it than bacon. Bacon grease. But of course! Thanks Marilyn, it was fantastic. Give Harvey my best, I hope he feels better soon.
CTuttle @ 159
And in my humble opinion, your son’s psychiatrist would be right. Anyone who want’s a picture of what these things really are, click on over to Wrongplanet.net. You get a whole different perspective. In fact, I think I recognize some of the styles of some of the writers here from over there. No shame in that.
Btdt
(ps anyone whose been on that board knows those initials….it’s me)
DrDick @ 170
*sigh* Ain’t that the truth! 8-(
Patrick 4/4 @ 165
Welcome back, Patrick; nice to see you!
Redshift @ 168
Yeah, been there done that. But with the kiddos and the hubby and the dog I just did not want to go down that road again. We ended up buying new, and hubby’s head nearly exploded when I told the painters to use the same color on the walls and the ceilings. He was a white walls/white ceiling guy but I am slowly bringing him around.
Steve-AR @ 139
KO did a piece on him tonight. Sad situation. Thank you, W.
gonna do a little pimpin here, i’m honored to have Jerry Rau as a friend. He’s a Viet Vet, antiwar activist, musician. The most profoundly thoughtful person i know, he thinks about the consequenses of everything, every action. A truly good person, mentor to many.
encephalopath @ 142
What does your handle mean, if I may?
RonD @ 169
Oh yeah, like I’ve had time to do that! Maybe next weekend? I need to do it before the kitteh gets too old to “socialize” and just sees a bucket o’ cluck in his back yard.
:)
DrDick @ 170
Not questioning the different varieties – I have the inattentive type myself – but they have changed the terminology in the DSM IV – though I can’t remember how they now indicate the subtypes.
Patrick 4/4 @ 165
Fern @ 146
Attention deficit disorder is one thing. Add the H and you have hyperactivity. Both are trouble with focusing.
My daughter outgrew her ADHD at about 15.
Gang, I feel like I’ve hardly gotten to spend any time at all with you tonight. I’ll try to get back here in time for Late Late Nite.
See you soon.
Fern @ 118
ADD & ADHD are brain injuries, go to iahp dot org to read up on it …
burnspbesq @ 155
A season in Hell you have indeed described, sir.
;>)
Likewise, while it is still Veteran’s Day- (just about)-for those interested in the US Civil War, a blogger of my acquaintance inherited a box of letters home from a Civil War veteran, and is transcribing them and posting them up here:
A Civil War Diary
CTuttle @ 159
Much of the problem in treating these problems is that our diagnostics (ADD/ADHD and the like) are actually symptomatic. In all likelihood there are a number of distinct, but related metabolic disorders underlying the symptoms. I have Tourette’s Syndrome and in my youth it manifested, in part, in ADHD like symptoms. It can also manifest in OCD symptoms and a number of other forms.
madmommy @ 163
Then you would be totally flocked.
cynic @ 174
Wow, a cool site, Mahalo! My wife made me bookmark it! ;-)
Good evening dear friends.
The corporate media wants their corporations to do well. Fuck the country.
TexBetsy @ 192
Evening Betsy! Hitting the nail on the head, my friend!
Patrick 4/4 @ 165
Hiya! Forgive me, I’ve been menopausal for a while.
Fern @ 170
Heh. I went through one of those (the ancient glue, not the seven layers) when I was growing up, stripping the wallpaper in my sister’s room in our 1930’s house. It was a project for the whole family for an entire summer. It took me years to realize that more modern wallpaper wasn’t like that.
madmommy @ 193
And that’s while completely drugged. i must be even smarter normally.
Patrick 4/4 @ 150
LOL !!!
Hiya Patrick 4/4 !
RonD @ 187
Hi RonD– am reading a few books, one of which is “Confederates in the Attic.” Most interesting… and a little scary because of the current thoughts about the Late Great Unpleasantless.”
What’s with the irrelevant chit-chat? New age trollism?
Sheesh.
On topic – cancel your cable tv subscriptions. Stop looking to the news outlet that is obsolete and so obviously flawed. There’s other news outlets that can get you better milage than that.
Renee in Ohio @ 59
That truly is inspiring…the fact that there are all sorts of little “heroic acts” we can take every day…and that sometimes we are given the chance to do something like those folks he spoke of, the guy who halted the tanks in Tienaman Square, or leaping onto train tarcks to hold a fallen man down between the rails as the train roared overhead. That the little things “prime us” to undertake the big acts…which may never occur more than once in our lifetimes.
Wasn’t there a movement a few years ago called Pay It Forward
If we could have these two concepts more often taught in our schools things would be much better ethically. And maybe kids would see that bullying, teasing, anonymous internet flames and trolls was not “power” but weakness.
DrDick @ 109
Obviously, you haven’t seen his “ratings”.
madmommy @ 193
What do they do with ALL that money? Doesn’t it become redundant?
Howdy pat 4/4
TexBetsy @ 196
‘course you are, but I’ll take your company any way I can get it!
Hope the drugs are working.
FunnyDiva
Better Living Through Chemistry…
hey patrick 4/4 – how ya been?
start_beating_around_the_BuSh @ 201
I repeat my previous comment.
WDD:
LOL!
I think I’ll print out cards with that on them. If I forget someone’s name, ta da, they get a nice card.
DrDick @ 189
True! The diagnostics is still in it’s infancy as compared to contemporary ailments! My son was first diagnosed with ADHD and the drugs sent his(undiagnosed) Bipolar Disorder through the roof, yee-haw!
Funnydiva2002 @ 204
Well thank you.
I see the neurosurgeon tomorrow and should have some more permanent solutions on the horizon.
Margot @ 207
Maybe we could get a group rate?
terri @ 199
Irrelevant chit chat? It’s late night – different standards apply.
lol, TRex posts and the comment faucet opens fully. Look away for a moment and there is no catching up!
Hi Christine! “Confederates in the Attic”-hmmm. I haven’t heard of that one, but I’ll be looking for something to read over the holidays. Thanks!
well, i broke down today and bought a second TV. put it in the kids’ room. i want my living room back at least part of the evening
Impeach!
CTuttle @ 208
He and I are walking refutations of the “Intelligent Design” argument. Of course, then there is Tucker whose existence single handedly refutes the very possibility of a deity.
Fern @ 211
Sometimes we tell really nasty jokes. I am not clowning around either. (should I press Submit Comment? Yes indeedie.)
Fern @ 211
Think of it as a cocktail party with various conversations going on in different corners. You can participate in one, or several, as you like.
Margot @ 207
Oh, and you’re going to remember that in the morning?
[:::MWAH!:::]
So, finally, a serious difference of opinion:
The rest of Greenwald’s post is very informative. And, it ends with a video for which he HTs Selise.
This stuff is a “must.” The libertarians are our comrades wrt foreign policy and constitutional liberties. I seriously differ with them on matters of “promot[ing] the general welfare.” Let us focus on what we have in common, and learn from what the general voters, Republicans included, are applauding in our speeches.
There is a new message sweeping the land: “Statesmanship and adherence to the Constitution is good politics.” For God’s sake, get the picture, and stop trianguating!
terri @ 199
Don’t believe we’ve met.
RonD @ 188
Ooooohhhh, I’m bookmarking for a later read. Thanks so much!
Wangdangdoodle:
demi, mommybrain, newtonusr, mr.demi
Peanut, peanutbutter and jelly
Unflattering pic of oldcoastie
Mommybrain and newtonusr
Demi and Burns
CTuttle @ 208
Ah yes, medication roul*tt*.
~~~ModNote: Edited for content to clear filters.~~~
The main value of the MSM, to me, comes from knowing what the vast majority of Americans who don’t get their news from the tubes are being told, and knowing what propaganda has to be countered.
CTuttle @ 47
Interesting…one can say “boner” but not the more scientifically acceptable “p*nis” without tripping a filter. Damn those “Boner Enlargement Pills”!
Hiya Betsy! Hey tw3k! I’m fading fast, glad to see ya’s.
Madmommy,
Of course group rates.
Special designs, too!
Frazzled mommy…berserker worker….;)
Well I doubt that the TV I bought will ever have MSM news on it. Comedy central is more likely.
wangdangdoodle @ 226
good seeing you too!
I’m totally flummoxed (that’s right…flummoxed). I wrote a diary at DKos that’s apparently being held.
All the diary was about was asking Mike Stark to go back to O’Reilly’s house with his camera crew. Basically to stalk and harass him. It was prompted by O’Reilly’s latest escapade doing just that to a newspaper editor. Did that go to far? It’s too radical for DKos?
RonD @ 212
It is a great account of “farbs” vs. the really super re-eneactors of all the battles. The city guy who loved the Confederates follows them , and finds current violence in southern towns. Scary …
cinnamonape @ 224
yeap :( just think spam and if ya avoid the terms they use in their email filling up your inbox….
Bedtime for me. Goodnight all!
TexBetsy @ 228
Well, that is better than cartoons (or Faux Newts). Give them a few years and they will probably come around. I never really liked watching the news until I was in my later 20s. Now I am a certified news junkie.
every time some character assassination occurs — ridiculing a dem to belittle or deman them — it has to be called out for what it is: the attack of a bully who cannot win the argument based on ideas.
that’s it. that’s what the candidates, or their troops, need to say. repugs? bullies. msm? at best, clueless. whatsamatter folks, afraid of a debate on the merits? thought so.
y’all are pussies.
Goodnight, madmommy.
wangdangdoodle @ 219
You are too funny, where’s my inhaler?!
Night, MM. Sleep well.
RonD @ 168
Hey RonD!!! This is the first time you and WWD and I have been on the same thread for months!
Mad Dogs @ 222
I bookmarked it also..Stimulated by a comment on a thread earlier today..I looked at paternal family serving during the Civil War. 76 on each side.
Later.
Dr Dick, they watch Stewart & Colbert as often as possible. And Olbermann with me. And liberal radio is on in the evenings and at night. They’re inundated with news —– just no MSM.
*waving to all the leaving sleepy pups*
Wow, this thread is moving so fast, I don’t know where to jump in!
Redshift @ 175
Wow! I asked about you once or twice. Where have you been?
TexBetsy @ 242
Probably a very good thing then.
sleep well madmom
Loo Hoo. @ 223
Ok, now how to link up this group with the CTFP group? We need our own national convention. But not tonight dear, I have to work in the morning. Put a quarter in the juke box for me, ‘k?
Love you guys! G’nite all!
I don’t think I can sit at this box any longer. See you guys in a four or five days. I am off to the bay area to pitch 3d illustration. There really isn’t much work in the SAC area for this kind of thing. Or I will be back for late, late later.
Just as I get here, Wangdang leaves?
Have a good trip Mary
Gnome de Plume @ 245
Hop on the springboard and do a cannonball … look out for Suzanne’s whip … *g*
And that’s way too long. The last time I talked to WangDang, she was building some sort of mobile Goldberg machine for her chickens, and then you nearly got burned out ((shudder)) …..One more peaceful day is a nice thing to have, and it’s a gift to spend it with this community.
Petrocelli @ 251
*c*r*a*c*k
Night Mary. Good luck in SF.
hi Gnome
marymccurnin @ 249
I hope it goes well.
Petrocelli @ 196
Howdy – and there I went and went away again.
Hi Betsy. Let me know what your neuro says and the dates. I saw my hand doc today to get a brace built for my right thumb. Been doing too much work with it — like hitting the space bar on the keypad too much and too fast. ;~)
G’night, WangDangDoodle. The sooner we see you again the happier we shall be…!
Gnome de Plume @ 251
Timing is everything, and I’ll have more of it after Wednesday. Here… you can have my chair.
Had big fun last weekend, soon again yes?
a mid-east delicacy for tonight’s snack
Halvah is made from sesame paste, and this particular log is dipped in chocolate. Very rich. Good stuff!
Gnome de Plume @ 258
firedoglakeitus hurts – hope the brace helps
Fern @ 182
Hi Fern! OK, I’ve got the DSM IV here. It shows 3 subtypes
-combined type
– predomininantly innattentive type
– predominantly hyperactive-impulsive type.
According to the DSM, the correct name for the disorder is Attention-Deficit / Hyperactivity Disorder.
Using Wangdang’s quarter to play something I haven’t listened to in a long while.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Ym2VmBTOA
wangdangdoodle @ 262
YES! I wish my neighbors were as nice as my FDL friends are. But then they wouldn’t be rethuglicans would they?
Loo Hoo. @ 245
I’ve been working so hard I’ve got nothing left at the end of the day.
Good tired, but tired. Heya evrybody.
I am blessed to have good neighbors and good FDL friends.
TexBetsy @ 263
How can anyone sleep with chocolate covered halvah around?
I do have some good neighbors, but then I’ve got some real nasty ones, too.
My diary was released, and dropping fast. That’s alright, it was strictly to let me vent. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/12/2357/2812
wangdangdoodle @ 193
Okay, but do you get the added benefit of having daughters going through puberty?
wangdangdoodle @ 269
The only thing better would be halvah-covered chocolate.
TexBetsy @ 267
I agree– and, hiya.
Loo Hoo. @ 272
That sounds potentially lethal.
persiflage @ 265
Heh, you just happen to have a DSM IV lying around, Persi? 8~)
hi christine
terri @ 198
Pardon me?
Loo Hoo. @ 272
Ha!
I have a spouse doing menopause and a son doing major puberty. Did I mention I was tired?
Fuck. Must go to bed. G’nite Ron, thanks for the lullaby Burns, move in next to me Gnome, nice to meet you again Patrick fourbyfour. Errggghhhhh…. splat!
Mr. Gnome was hungry for cookies today. So he stopped at the local bakery (the oldest one in Texas) and bought four dozen!
Loo Hoo. @ 273
… looking for the snark tag.
hmmm, don’t see it anywhere.
Loo Hoo. @ 223
Cool! So did you guys use your FDL monikers in conversation? :)
Loo Hoo. @ 271
ha! at one time at la casa de la estrogen, we had all 3 stages in the same house: starting puberty, pms, menopause.
wangdangdoodle @ 227
Hi! and goodnight!
I am close to expiring, and I admit that I have not read all of the comments.
But, way back when, I had a pretty funny conversation with my then 86 yo mother, about what she overheard at the donut shop.
She overheard two women talking. Discussing whether Hillary was a lesbian. Remember, this was way back when. The point of debate was that Hillary had a a child, and thus they were totally confused about her sexual status.
My then 86 yo mother was totally baffled by the point of the overheard conversation. As in, she found it pretty amusing as to the clueless-ness. As in having a child has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
Sorry, if this is totally random or OT, but people do make weird assumptions, but my mother was on top of it.
tw3k @ 283
central tex firepups call each other by their names, but label photos with fdl handles.
Loo Hoo. @ 133
Madame Ambassadress Carlson is the Swanson frozen food heiress. That’s where Tucker’s allowance (and MSNBC subsidy, I imagine) comes from.
taking a break from scrubbing wallpaper paste off walls, & find there’s been a big Pup shuffle on the thread. (waves bye to leaving pups).
Being Serious about news, govt, etc during daytime is depressing business. Thank God/dess for Late Nite & rowdy Pups, all ya’ll restore my spirits. Even when they’re speckled with wallpaper remnants.
TexBetsy @ 277
Hello Dear Betsy,
What the heck is going on here…
Loo Hoo. @ 223
thank you for the qualifier, LooHoo… really, if anyone is taking my picture, PLEASE tell me what I should do with my head, don’t smile in that goofy way, etc….
;-)
Well, think I’ll join the exodus. Lots of eager young minds to warp tomorrow and I have a couple of great topics: gender and sexuality.
Christine Edmonson @ 290
late night
just be glad they’re not going ’round the bend anymore!
Christine Edmonson @ 291
We are all in our own little worlds carrying on multiple conversations. It is quite entertaining, but my poor body may not last until Late, Late night hits the screen.
night Dr D
TeddySanFran @ 289
I always thought Orville Redenbacher was F*cker’s dad … helped explain the Bowtie …
wigwam @ 220
But we have to be careful about this, because the libertarians like Paul have a ompletely different view of the Constitution than many “Progressives”, particularly when it comes t the issues of States Rights, Individual Rights and Federal Activity. When they talk of restoring the Constitution they actually want to return to a period that more resembles the Articles of Confederation….the very weak period of the Republic where States WERE the arbiter of individual rights, with few Federal Constitutional Protections.
The list provided also shows that Paul is more than willing to initiate Bills that attack CERTAIN issues that correspond to his philosophy, while, at the same time IGNORING those where the Federal authority benefits HIS Constituencies. For example, he has never authored a defedarlization measure on Farm Subsidies, or on the Oil and Gas Industry, or the unconcionably ridiculous rents charged mining concerns on public lands. He ignores that most Public Universities and Schools (at least in the West) were created by “land grants”… contractual relationships between the recipients of those lands (in perpetuity)…to support and maintain those schools through time.
Apparently libertarians want the land, are willing to sign the contracts, then renege on their end of the deal!
And can someone please tell me how his “Constitutional” stance relates at all to his efforts to make a Federal Law that defines a human being at conception, and accords that zygote full Constitutional protections. It’s clear from any reading of the Constitution that citizenship rights and responsibilities accrue from those BORN” – NOT “CONCEIVED” – within the US (or born of an American citizen abroad). It’s not as if the Framers had no clue about “conception”. So this would require a Constitutional Amendment to revise.
But Paul attempts to violate this process by pushing it through in an Unconstitutional Bill.
And then there’s the whole thing where he tried to “De-Citizenize” those BORN within the United States, but born of undocumented parents. Again UnConstitutional…and yet he tries to pass this as law in a Bill!!! That would require a Constitutional Amendment!
So much for Mr.Paul being a “Protector of the Constitution”.
Aloha, VG, WDD, and other sleepers!
Speaking only for me, I think Late Nite and LLN posts are where we recover from the news of the day, shaking it off via bad jokes, dog and cat pictures, and word play. We still discuss topical issues (such as TRex’s post tonight on the media choosing to cover fluff over substance) but we also step away from the crap du jour to build our community. Late Nite allows me to recover so I can keep fighting.
DrDick @ 292
And you leave us hanging…?
Suzanne @ 285
i vaguely recall a similar situation, thanks to menopause i can honestly say “i don’t recall” to most of it
CTuttle @ 277
But of course Chikka, don’t you?
Old Coastie, if that is an unflattering picture, you must be really good looking and serious.
Lots of new stories up at the Reality Based News Feed.
TexBetsy @ 288
I think text based interaction at a meet up would be amusing :)
‘night, DrDick. Enjoy the crest of the wave.
Valley Girl @ 286
That has been a favorite of the wingnuts for years..and it is still a favorite
Harper’s
DrDick @ 293
A lot of potential there! Nite, DD!
Patrick 4/4 @ 267
Yeah, I know what you mean. Up until election day, between election work and job work I didn’t have enough energy to do more than say hi in Late Nite every couple of days.
Gnome de Plume @ 293
Love you guys–really! Feel so great to belong.
Steve-AR @ 240
I had a great-grandma who was born during the Civil War. Her mama got a letter from her daddy asking that she be named Virginia, “in honor of the beautiful state” he was currently fighting in.
Dr Dick’s farewell, just as I’m showing up. I’ve got pliable young minds to warp tomorrow too, but in the next time zone.
Loo Hoo. @ 273
oh gods. My mom ended up with early menopause when i was going through puberty too. Surprised that my dad and brother lived through that 2 or 3 year period before both of us leveled out a bit. Two stubborn and fairly volatile women in the same house? RUN!
uh oh —
Blackwater In Running For Major Pentagon Counternarcotics Contract
from Huff Po by The Huffington Post News Editors
A Defense Department contract involving antidrug training missions may test the durability of the political controversy over Blackwater Worldwide’s security work in Iraq.
The Moyock, N.C., company, which was involved in a September shooting in Baghdad that left 17 Iraqis dead, is one of five military contractors competing for as much as $15 billion over five years to help fight a narcotics trade that the government says finances terrorist groups.
Also competing for contracts from the Pentagon’s Counter Narcoterrorism Technology Program Office are military-industry giants Raytheon Co., Lockheed Martin Corp. and Northrop Grumman Corp., as well as Arinc Inc., a smaller aerospace and technology contractor.
The contracts are expected to be awarded as the need arises, so the Pentagon’s level of concern about employing Blackwater will likely be measured over time and by whether the company wins leading roles or is shut out.
Well I do think I will turn in – I am supposed to make sure that Mr. Gnome gets up when his alarm goes off in the morning!
Redshift @ 309
Who are you working for (election-wise)?
TexBetsy @ 262
Hi Betsy, I love halvah!
persiflage @ 303
… waving to persiflage …
Brett was on fire today !
night gnome
Also, something new at my place-you guys did hear about that submarine, right?
Suzanne @ 299
Cat pictures?? Speaking of kitties doesn’t the TRex still owe us a song for saving the Kitteh’s?
Gnome de Plume @ 251
Yes, but I jukeboxed her.
Suzanne @ 299
Or as we have said for oh, probably several years now, “nothing is OT in Late Nite!”
ruh-roh… Santa Ana winds just started blowing and our fire isn’t out yet…” contained but not controlled” is what the fire department says…
now, here is a picture of me that has many advantages… 1) it’s at a distance, 2) there are doggies in the picture, 3) the scenery is distractingly beautiful!
steve-ar, the big guy promises to pay up but right now, he is stocking up at the grocery store. a hungry trex with no food in his larder is not a good thing.
be sure to remind him when he returns to the lake during late late nite
Gnome de Plume @ 316
‘night Gnome
I have an idea. I wonder if the posters at FDL could take a particular topic – for example…IRAN and Nuclear Issues (or Social Security; or the Palestinian-Israel issue)…and then undertake to illuminate us on what the different candidates have said on it. Then point out any nuanced differences between them, if any.
Finally, the Post could point out some things the candidates have said about the other candidates positions…fact-check them if you will.
Just how different are the top-three Democratic candidates on particular issues (although I’d love to see the whole slew of them covered)? Are they misrepresenting the others positions? Are they misrepresenting their own?
solai @ 272
rec’d
RonD @ 321
The sad part is, how many billions have been spent to avoid that very same situation? Hmmm… Our taxpayer dollars hard at work again…
Redshift @ 322
Oh, Rufus Wainwright — love you guys.
All the better to chomp neocons with.
Petrocelli @ 319
Which of you are Canadian? I thought you might be interested in northernvoice
TexBetsy @ 330
You don’t get to do the cleanup when he does. Do you know how hard it is to get sulfur outta the curtains?
OldCoastie @ 325
Nice shot!
cinnamonape @ 328
I like that idea. If it happens, it will be reason #643 that CHS loves FDL commenters. ;)
Anyone see Bob Hebert’s new column? He rips “Bobo” Brooks a new one(following on Krugman’s heels).
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11…..rbert.html
Valley Girl @ 287
On that topic, let’s not let John McCain forget his ugliness about Chelsea Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Janet Reno
tw3k @ 333
Persi is Aussie, I am a Canuck … will check out the link …
tw3k @ 335
hard to take a bad picture up there…
Petrocelli: Brett was on fire today !
———————-
There I was worried that the departure of the old hands might be a problem but the young guys stepped up wonderfully and the more experienced guys like Brett Lee showed more maturity and application. Sri Lanka should have played much better than they did.
Valley Girl @ 336
Sounds like a job for cinnamonape to me.
Hey, does anyone have any info on Ed*ard Teller’s radio gig today?
i was trying not to hound ET about that RonD, thanks for bringing it up :)
Valley Girl @ 336
I like the idea too. cinnamonape, you make some very thoughtful comments, perhaps you could get the ball rolling with a post.
so, ET, since RonD asked, how was the radio gig today?
Petrocelli @ 339
I thought that was you but I mix up names sometimes.
OldCoastie @ 340
yeah, where is that?
new trex up there
Late Late Night up.
Valley Girl @ 287
The only way a lot of these people would ever be convinced that Hillary wasn’t a lesbian is if she had an affair with a man. Then she would be equally EVIL, in their minds. You see, they simply need a REASON for their hate…and they will make up something that has no basis just to rationalize that hate.
newtonusr @ 342
Absolutely!!!
Especially as he/she was featured in a recent CHS post. And, the quote really triggered one of the most focused (and knowledgeable) FDL discussions that I have read of late at FDL. There was not a single OT comment, in the first hundred or so that I read.
Reason No. 384 Why I Love Our Commenters
tw3k @ 284
We wore name tags that oldcoastie brought so as to keep our real names straight. But, we kept calling each other our screen names.
Marilyn In Texas @ 164
This sounds divine! But how much chicken?
Patrick 4/4 @ 316
I was mostly running my precinct for the local Dems. I did some work for a couple of candidates (one for county board, one for the House of Delegates) whose campaigns had Deaniac friends on staff.
Upstairs
persiflage @ 341
Aussie beat their opponents before the first ball is bowled … their level of preparedness is mind boggling …
TexBetsy @ 314
WTF?
We’ve already stupidly converted terrorism from a criminal justice problem to a military one, and now we’re going to repeat the same mistake wrt drugs?
We do still have 93 U.S. Attorneys, a DEA, a FBI, a CBP, and a Coast Guard, right?
Drugs are their mission, not the military’s.
OMMFG. Teh stoopid, it is melting my eyeballs and turning my brain to mouse poop.
Petrocelli @ 297
Or Colonel Sanders, perhaps.
Loo Hoo. @ 359
ROFL … of course, the hair … all so obvious now …
tw3k @ 348
eastern sierra nevada – near mammoth lakes
Christine Edmonson @ 311
(((Christine!)))
Loo Hoo. @ 353
:) Good, I would too!
OldCoastie @ 361
beautiful, I’ve only been to cali once around Redwood City.
knock yer eyes out gorgeous up there – it’s fairly near Yosemite – go, if you ever get the chance, tw3k…
Those kids and their opinions on Clinton and Edwards…
You think they are sweet, wait till you meet their parents.
OldCoastie @ 365
I hope to some day! I’m pretty sick of PA.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 337
***
JKC: Wow…a focused, blistering column. Thanks for the link. I’d love to be a fly on Bobo’s wall and see his complexion change when he reads it…
You mean, SwiftKids isn’t satire?
Digby has discussed this many times before on her blog. So much of Republican strategy consists of the kind of gay baiting normally reserved for high school. The problem is, with a large number of Americans, it works as a way to tear down Democrats. Obviously, as a lesbian, I get really tired of people using my sexual orientation as a club to beat others with.
You know, until it becomes as taboo to be homophobic as it is to be a racist, Democrats are going to have to deal with this: all strong, liberal women will be “slurred” as lesbians, and many liberal men as gay or effeminate, regardless of whom they sleep with. They will always be on the defensive to trot out their “het” credentials.
I wish, instead of focusing on the denials (He’s not gay–he hunts and fishes! or She’s not lesbian–look at all her children!)that people would focus on the anti-gay bigotry, and call the Republicans on their hate.