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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING:  Al Gore Joins Global Energy Business Venture</title>
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		<title>By: brooklyn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/12/breaking-al-gore-joins-global-energy-business-venture/#comment-1093639</link>
		<dc:creator>brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1091880&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rod @ 37&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“What we are going to have to put in place is a combination of the Manhattan Project, the Apollo project, and the Marshall Plan, and scale it globally,” Gore continues. “It’d be promising too much to say we can do it on our own, but we intend to do our part.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gore is going to move the earth under our feet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not out of office.   Sadly, I think he passed up the one avenue that would have made a real difference to the things he believes in.  Hard as it may be to believe now, Gore will be marginalized when a new President is elected and takes office.  We’ll still hear about him every so often, as we hear about Jimmy Carter, but he won’t have much power and he won’t command much in the way of media attention.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess I understand why he did it, but destiny was calling and he didn’t open the door.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1091880"><em>Rod @ 37</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>“What we are going to have to put in place is a combination of the Manhattan Project, the Apollo project, and the Marshall Plan, and scale it globally,” Gore continues. “It’d be promising too much to say we can do it on our own, but we intend to do our part.”</p>
<p>Gore is going to move the earth under our feet.</p>
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<p>Not out of office.   Sadly, I think he passed up the one avenue that would have made a real difference to the things he believes in.  Hard as it may be to believe now, Gore will be marginalized when a new President is elected and takes office.  We’ll still hear about him every so often, as we hear about Jimmy Carter, but he won’t have much power and he won’t command much in the way of media attention.</p>
<p>I guess I understand why he did it, but destiny was calling and he didn’t open the door.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mr. Gore is awesome to continously find new ways to try to solve the Climate Crisis while he is still outside the oval office, putting his popularity and name behind this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He will be donating any monies earned from being on the Board to Alliance for Climate Protection.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a further sign good things may still come.  Mr. Gore agreed to join the board and will tele/video conference one a week meetings, instead of using energy and time travelling, while Doerr joins the Gore/Blood 3 year old Billion dollar Generation Management firm.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Of course, he could have more impact as president, as he knows. “I want to be clear about the fact that I’m not making the mistake of assuming I could do more this way than I could as president,” he told us in Nashville. He also will not definitively take himself out of the political game.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I am not going to give the so-called Sherman statement: If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then he smiled.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“You know, I know what it’s like to be elected and not serve.” He laughed louder than anyone at that line and then said, “I wouldn’t want to do that again.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Time for&lt;br /&gt;
 a COOL&lt;br /&gt;
change,&lt;br /&gt;
GORE&lt;br /&gt;
2008&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Gore is awesome to continously find new ways to try to solve the Climate Crisis while he is still outside the oval office, putting his popularity and name behind this.</p>
<p>He will be donating any monies earned from being on the Board to Alliance for Climate Protection.</p>
<p>In a further sign good things may still come.  Mr. Gore agreed to join the board and will tele/video conference one a week meetings, instead of using energy and time travelling, while Doerr joins the Gore/Blood 3 year old Billion dollar Generation Management firm.</p>
<p>“Of course, he could have more impact as president, as he knows. “I want to be clear about the fact that I’m not making the mistake of assuming I could do more this way than I could as president,” he told us in Nashville. He also will not definitively take himself out of the political game.</p>
<p>“I am not going to give the so-called Sherman statement: If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.”</p>
<p>Then he smiled.</p>
<p>“You know, I know what it’s like to be elected and not serve.” He laughed louder than anyone at that line and then said, “I wouldn’t want to do that again.”</p>
<p>Time for<br />
 a COOL<br />
change,<br />
GORE<br />
2008</p>
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		<title>By: karnak12</title>
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		<dc:creator>karnak12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1091998&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Prairie Sunshine @ 135&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Great would be the rewards to the enterprising engineer/designer/garage mechanic who can come up with a retrofit or something for all existing vehicles that would improve gas mileage 10-fold.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why not improve the existing on the way to replacing it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dream big.&lt;br /&gt;
Demand better.  Be better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edwards ‘08.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is probably way EPU’d by now, but…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I own a car with a 5.7 L V8. I have done a few things to it. It’s been balanced and blueprinted and it has a mild cam. Runs with a carburetor and headers. There are a few other modifications to make it run a little faster and smoother. It will do the 1/4 mile in a little over 12 seconds and will blow your doors off up to around 135 (that’s as far as I got before I shut it down - the speedo goes to 140).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It runs so clean it’s hardly a blip on the smog detector, and if I keep my foot out of it I get between 23-25 mpg around town. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is just me improving on my daily driver on weekends, and I am not an automotive engineer&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1091998"><em>Prairie Sunshine @ 135</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Great would be the rewards to the enterprising engineer/designer/garage mechanic who can come up with a retrofit or something for all existing vehicles that would improve gas mileage 10-fold.</p>
<p>Why not improve the existing on the way to replacing it?</p>
<p>Dream big.<br />
Demand better.  Be better.</p>
<p>Edwards ‘08.</p>
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<p>This is probably way EPU’d by now, but…</p>
<p>I own a car with a 5.7 L V8. I have done a few things to it. It’s been balanced and blueprinted and it has a mild cam. Runs with a carburetor and headers. There are a few other modifications to make it run a little faster and smoother. It will do the 1/4 mile in a little over 12 seconds and will blow your doors off up to around 135 (that’s as far as I got before I shut it down &#8211; the speedo goes to 140).</p>
<p>It runs so clean it’s hardly a blip on the smog detector, and if I keep my foot out of it I get between 23-25 mpg around town. </p>
<p>This is just me improving on my daily driver on weekends, and I am not an automotive engineer</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Harvard-trained Gore, Nobel laureate, former VP and Senator, needs a “refresher course” in investment banking (Colin Powell apparently doesn’t) even though he set up an investment fund three years ago with a former top Goldman Sachs executive and is on the board of some today’s most advanced companies.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The press can’t seem to stop calling Gore a dilettante, despite the hordes of former GOP stalwarts given Wingnut welfare jobs in I-banks and law firms, even though their current knowledge of banking or law is nil.  How do you spell double standard in Wall Street Journalese?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvard-trained Gore, Nobel laureate, former VP and Senator, needs a “refresher course” in investment banking (Colin Powell apparently doesn’t) even though he set up an investment fund three years ago with a former top Goldman Sachs executive and is on the board of some today’s most advanced companies.  </p>
<p>The press can’t seem to stop calling Gore a dilettante, despite the hordes of former GOP stalwarts given Wingnut welfare jobs in I-banks and law firms, even though their current knowledge of banking or law is nil.  How do you spell double standard in Wall Street Journalese?</p>
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		<title>By: neokneme</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/12/breaking-al-gore-joins-global-energy-business-venture/#comment-1092277</link>
		<dc:creator>neokneme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello future!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’ve been feeling kind of abandoned and stuck here in the past while hoping for some kind of path to continuity to catch up with you.  The winds of change are blowing but the storm of storms has yet to strike.  Things are not calm, but anxious.  We feel the tension, the disquiet, the build-up to the tumult and we long for the passage to normalcy.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Alas, we continue to wait, unsatisfied with our progress and committed to bringing the change that renews our spirit.  But still we want what we think we can have — a future where the living problems are the daily focus.  We lost our balance along the way and have yet to regain it.  We lament the burden of our toxic intent to dominate the natural environment and we seek to ameliorate our ways.  What must we do besides endure the tempest which seems to grow ever more ominous and threatening?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our minds are too limited to understand the essence of our dilemma.  We have joined our voices to call to you, the future. This is our way.  This is what we do every day.  This is how we pray.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please accept our gratitude, in advance, for listening.  See you soon…OK?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello future!  </p>
<p>We’ve been feeling kind of abandoned and stuck here in the past while hoping for some kind of path to continuity to catch up with you.  The winds of change are blowing but the storm of storms has yet to strike.  Things are not calm, but anxious.  We feel the tension, the disquiet, the build-up to the tumult and we long for the passage to normalcy.  </p>
<p>Alas, we continue to wait, unsatisfied with our progress and committed to bringing the change that renews our spirit.  But still we want what we think we can have — a future where the living problems are the daily focus.  We lost our balance along the way and have yet to regain it.  We lament the burden of our toxic intent to dominate the natural environment and we seek to ameliorate our ways.  What must we do besides endure the tempest which seems to grow ever more ominous and threatening?</p>
<p>Our minds are too limited to understand the essence of our dilemma.  We have joined our voices to call to you, the future. This is our way.  This is what we do every day.  This is how we pray.</p>
<p>Please accept our gratitude, in advance, for listening.  See you soon…OK?</p>
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		<title>By: aterrificjob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/12/breaking-al-gore-joins-global-energy-business-venture/#comment-1092229</link>
		<dc:creator>aterrificjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Mr. Gore,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you are seemingly definitively NOT running for public office, will you please endorse and support John Edwards? Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Gore,</p>
<p>As you are seemingly definitively NOT running for public office, will you please endorse and support John Edwards? Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/12/breaking-al-gore-joins-global-energy-business-venture/#comment-1092124</link>
		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Prius is routinely advertised in SoCal for $20,000. It’s probably $4,000 more than a similar non-hybrid car. If I were to trade my mini van for one, I’d get about 48 mpg vs 19 or so- so my gasoline bill per month would go from about $250 per month to less than $100. I’d save about $1,800 per year and get my $4,000 back in less than three years- that’s not accounting for federal tax credits.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congress decided that only a certain amount of tax credit would be available per model- and the Prius has about used it’s up…now THAT’S stupid- to penalize the hybrid that does the best job~!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Prius is routinely advertised in SoCal for $20,000. It’s probably $4,000 more than a similar non-hybrid car. If I were to trade my mini van for one, I’d get about 48 mpg vs 19 or so- so my gasoline bill per month would go from about $250 per month to less than $100. I’d save about $1,800 per year and get my $4,000 back in less than three years- that’s not accounting for federal tax credits.</p>
<p>Congress decided that only a certain amount of tax credit would be available per model- and the Prius has about used it’s up…now THAT’S stupid- to penalize the hybrid that does the best job~!!</p>
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		<title>By: rat bastahd</title>
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		<dc:creator>rat bastahd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t take this personally MikeR, but imo there’s a lot more to owning a hybrid than just the financial side. Sure, I want to use less gasoline, but that’s only one aspect. How do we balance on a spreadsheet the fact that a Prius only spews 10% the pollutants of an avg. car?  Also, I want to support green technology in the hopes that helps the producers bottomline so they will continue the trend.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t take this personally MikeR, but imo there’s a lot more to owning a hybrid than just the financial side. Sure, I want to use less gasoline, but that’s only one aspect. How do we balance on a spreadsheet the fact that a Prius only spews 10% the pollutants of an avg. car?  Also, I want to support green technology in the hopes that helps the producers bottomline so they will continue the trend.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;According to Wikipedia, the Tesla Roadster has a full-cycle energy equivalency of 87 mpg using power from CCGT plants.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a small car, affordable only by rich people, but these numbers should be replicable by companies like Toyota and Honda within a decade. The Toyota Corolla 2008 auto trans has a rating of 29 mpg, and is considered fuel efficient.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My last shopping expedition for a car, I considered the Prius. My boss warned me away from hybrids in general, at least in the short term. My calculations at the time (early 2006) led me to conclude that I’d recoup the cost difference over the lifetime of the vehicle, but I’d have to keep it for 10 years. Oil/gas prices today would shorten the investment period.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wikipedia, the Tesla Roadster has a full-cycle energy equivalency of 87 mpg using power from CCGT plants.</p>
<p>It’s a small car, affordable only by rich people, but these numbers should be replicable by companies like Toyota and Honda within a decade. The Toyota Corolla 2008 auto trans has a rating of 29 mpg, and is considered fuel efficient.</p>
<p>My last shopping expedition for a car, I considered the Prius. My boss warned me away from hybrids in general, at least in the short term. My calculations at the time (early 2006) led me to conclude that I’d recoup the cost difference over the lifetime of the vehicle, but I’d have to keep it for 10 years. Oil/gas prices today would shorten the investment period.</p>
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		<title>By: newdealfarmgrrrlll</title>
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		<dc:creator>newdealfarmgrrrlll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/12/john-tester-id-be-more-surprised-if-bush-didnt-bomb-iran-before-the-next-election-than-if-he-did/&quot;&gt;upstairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/12/john-tester-id-be-more-surprised-if-bush-didnt-bomb-iran-before-the-next-election-than-if-he-did/">upstairs</a></p>
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