Hi Jane, what a loser he is.

Girls on drunken laps. Planted questions. What’s next?

Republican family values? My ass!

Rudy will bomb Iran, if George doesn’t.

Family values? I won’t ask Rudy or Hillary about that.

You know, sometimes it is impossible to be cynical enough. I really do hate to say that.

Best to you Jane.

GOP is breathing a huge sigh of relief that it was a woman and that she was over eighteen.

OK here is the Republican PR line on this. At least he was with a girl. They call it the Vitter defense and surprisingly it seems to work.

Well, I suppose Rudy would have “more” family values than Sweeney, because at least Rudy kicked his 2nd wife out of the mansion to move his girlfriend in to give her a nice roof over her head, while Sweeney put his girlfriend in danger by driving drunk at a high rate of speed. See? /snark of course

Oklahoma kiddo @ 2

Girls on drunken laps. Planted questions. What’s next?

From Howie Klein:

MERLE HAGGARD supports Hillary for President. It’s going to be a strange year.

link

Hugh @ 8

OK here is the Republican PR line on this. At least he was with a girl. They call it the Vitter defense and surprisingly it seems to work.

Yup, this doesn’t even warrant a trip to Jesus camp and spa for reprogramming or forgiveness.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 5

Family values? I won’t ask Rudy or Hillary about that.

You know OK, I respect you and value your participation here, but I frankly don’t know what Hillary Clinton has to do with this.

Hugh @ 8

OK here is the Republican PR line on this. At least he was with a girl. They call it the Vitter defense and surprisingly it seems to work.

Yes. At least it wasn’t a boy in a blue dress on the drunkards lap.

Boo Radley @ 7

GOP is breathing a huge sigh of relief that it was a woman and that she was over eighteen.

See? Everything’s fine, nothing to see here. Look! Hillary has boobies! /snark

Jane Hamsher @ 12

Oklahoma kiddo @ 5

Family values? I won’t ask Rudy or Hillary about that.

You know OK, I respect you and value your participation here, but I frankly don’t know what Hillary Clinton has to do with this.

Blue dresses in the Oval Office.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 15

Jane Hamsher @ 12

You know OK, I respect you and value your participation here, but I frankly don’t know what Hillary Clinton has to do with this.

Blue dresses in the Oval Office.

???????????????????

Boo Radley @ 7

GOP is breathing a huge sigh of relief that it was a woman and that she was over eighteen.

It is shocking it turned out that way, isn’t it? I bet the RNC held their breath and then did a collective sigh of relief upon learning this! Lots of high fives I imagine. ;-)

OK, not to put too fine a point on this, but Hillary didn’t “interact” with the blue dress in the White House. I’m sorry, but Mr. and Mrs. C are 2 separate people.

I doubt Hillary would wear a blue dress. She’s a pretty savvy campaigner.

I heard Merle Haggard on Air America three weeks or so ago. I was surprised he was as articulate on the state of America today as he is. And he speaks for lots of Union types. Imagine how many hours of Merle the average trucker has listened to. This is a great endorsement for Hillary.

This has nothing to do with HRC.

OT: I thought Ben Stein nailed it today. If I’m Obama, Edwards, or any other Dem candidate I’d start making the Citibank, Merril Lynch CEO resignations with big$$$ parachutes a top issue in the campaign asap.

Loo Hoo. @ 19

I doubt Hillary would wear a blue dress. She’s a pretty savvy campaigner.

I heard Merle Haggard on Air America three weeks or so ago. I was surprised he was as articulate on the state of America today as he is. And he speaks for lots of Union types. Imagine how many hours of Merle the average trucker has listened to. This is a great endorsement for Hillary.

Has he been banned from C&W radio yet?

So, with all the BFFs like this Giuliani has, and all the un-Gooperlike positions, why haven’t his poll numbers tanked? Is he made out of teflon?

This is so GWB-deja vu. Voters backed Bush in 2000 and 2004 because he’s the kind of guy they’d like to have a beer with? I don’t know whether to be more upset with Giuliani, or with the blissfully ignorant public that is supporting him. Gag me with a spoon!

Bob in HI

Loo Hoo. @ 19

I doubt Hillary would wear a blue dress. She’s a pretty savvy campaigner.

I heard Merle Haggard on Air America three weeks or so ago. I was surprised he was as articulate on the state of America today as he is. And he speaks for lots of Union types. Imagine how many hours of Merle the average trucker has listened to. This is a great endorsement for Hillary.

I am sure Clear Channel will ban his music too.

martha @ 18

OK, not to put too fine a point on this, but Hillary didn’t “interact” with the blue dress in the White House. I’m sorry, but Mr. and Mrs. C are 2 separate people.

She does interact with the recipient if the extra marital blow job. I would have more respect for the Hill if she had divorced the large dog. That’s of course just a personal opinion about family values.

Law and order party.
So Sweeney gets out of a previous crash involving property damage without being Breathalyzered, relying on the messing with cd player defense.
Second known offence, an aggrivated DUI, relying on the messing with 23 year old blond defense.

Steve-AR, Jinx

Steve-AR @ 16

Oklahoma kiddo @ 15

Blue dresses in the Oval Office.

???????????????????

Was this perhaps a reference to the color of the dress worn by a Ms. Lewinsky that was entered into evidence in Prez Bill’s attempted lynching?

Bob in HI

Steve-AR @ 10

Oklahoma kiddo @ 2

Girls on drunken laps. Planted questions. What’s next?

From Howie Klein:

MERLE HAGGARD supports Hillary for President. It’s going to be a strange year.

link

Great catch.

FWIW, imo I think Joe Klein was a little too narrow in his characterization of Haggard’s political/musical trajectory. Merle, Willie, Waylon, David Allen Coe and many others all evolved into “outlaw country,” which is not the same as a Reagan Democrat, but there was some overlap.

I love Merle Haggard’s music. I dislike his politics.

Here’s another BFF friend of Rudy’s that bears looking into:

Ignore the tinfoil title, but the information seems to be pretty accurate and very suspicious.

http://winterpatriot.blogspot……iting.html

Meet Jerome Hauer:

“On September 11, 2001, in addition to his job with the NIH, Jerome Hauer was also Managing Director of Kroll Associates, a well-established security firm serving clients in the military and the US government. In the 1980s, Kroll was known as the “CIA of Wall Street” because of the sorts of the people it hired, and the sorts of tasks they were assigned.

Strangely, perhaps, on 9/11, Kroll was in charge of security for the entire World Trade Center complex.

The head of security at the WTC on September 11, 2001, was former FBI counter-terror spec*al*st John P. O’Neill.

O’Neill, considered the world’s leading expert on Osama bin Laden, had resigned his post as Deputy Director of the FBI during the summer, very unhappy with the Bush administration’s head-in-sand “approach” to terror, after investigations into Osama bin Laden and al-Q’aeda had been blocked.”

O’Neill perished, of course, on 9/11.

Edited ** and released by MOD

martha @ 18

OK, not to put too fine a point on this, but Hillary didn’t “interact” with the blue dress in the White House. I’m sorry, but Mr. and Mrs. C are 2 separate people.

I am no sure what OK had in mind, but when I have heard those types of comments in the South, the implication is Bill’s behavior is Hillary’s fault; because…………..

KayInMaine @ 9

Well, I suppose Rudy would have “more” family values than Sweeney, because at least Rudy kicked his 2nd wife out of the mansion to move his girlfriend in to give her a nice roof over her head, while Sweeney put his girlfriend in danger by driving drunk at a high rate of speed. See? /snark of course

Actually IIRC, Rudy’s second wife went to court to kick Rudy and his then girlfriend out of Gracie Mansion because it was inappropriate behavior in front of his then minor children and he was not allowed to live there until after she was able to move out with the children. That’s why and when he moved in with the gay couple and slept on the couch.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 24

martha @ 18

OK, not to put too fine a point on this, but Hillary didn’t “interact” with the blue dress in the White House. I’m sorry, but Mr. and Mrs. C are 2 separate people.

She does interact with the recipient if the extra marital blow job. I would have more respect for the Hill if she had divorced the large dog. That’s of course just a personal opinion about family values.

I hardly think you can compare the Clinton values to the Republican values. Why do you want to trash her because she didn’t divorce Bill? Do you think it’s possible that she loves him? Isn’t any of your business anyway.

bobschacht @ 27

Steve-AR @ 16

???????????????????

Was this perhaps a reference to the color of the dress worn by a Ms. Lewinsky that was entered into evidence in Prez Bill’s attempted lynching?

Bob in HI

I voted for Bill Clinton twice. But I advocate no blow jobs in the WH with interns.

It sure doesn’t seem like more than a year ago.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 29

I love Merle Haggard’s music. I dislike his politics.

OKK,
Merle is no longer just the “Okie from Muskogee.” I’ve read a couple of recent articles about him and he is of the believe that the Iraq invasion and occupation is pretty much a cluster f*ck and should never have happened.

KayInMaine @ 3

Republican family values? My ass!

when they create a platform it usually means they do the opposite

there platform is small government? they grow it exponentially,

strong military? first the bring it to ruins, then they underfund the programs that support our returning hero’s

lower taxes? instead raise it for everyone but the uber wealthy

national security?…underfund security programs

government out of our lives?…allow the government to watch every waking step in our lives

integrity?…depravity

unite?…devide

protect against crime?…allow criminals to roam free as hero’s

peace?…war

I could go on but here’s what they’ve mastered;

if they want to do something depraved they will campaign against it…that will give them the cover they need to go right ahead with their depravity

I am not an HRC supporter, but I do strongly believe that her marriage is her marriage, not ours.

Back on topic, I want to know how Rudy’s teflon stays put…I guess it’s the primary and there are so few viable rethug candidates. At some point, one has to think that something will stick. He’s not good looking or a fake good ol’ boy, so that won’t help him deflect. (!)

I really don’t give a rat’s ass about the Clinton’s sex life or that of Rudy’s or his friends. But I sure do care about HRC’s and Rudy’s politics. Let’s debate that. I’m ready Freddie.

dakine01 @ 36

Oklahoma kiddo @ 29

I love Merle Haggard’s music. I dislike his politics.

OKK,
Merle is no longer just the “Okie from Muskogee.” I’ve read a couple of recent articles about him and he is of the believe that the Iraq invasion and occupation is pretty much a cluster f*ck and should never have happened.

I am aware of that.

FWIW, I recall when Cheney shot Harry in the face, how many lurkers FDL had who were avid hunters. For days after the shooting, the best information on the kind of gun Dick used, the lethality of bird shot, hunting safety, and other relevant details were in the FDL comments long before they made into the MSM.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 38

I really don’t give a rat’s ass about the Clinton’s sex life or that of Rudy’s or his friends. But I sure do care about HRC’s and Rudy’s politics. Let’s debate that. I’m ready Freddie.

Apparently you do care since you brought it up. I don’t personally care if the next president has a harem if he or she will restore my rights, follow the Constitution, bring our troops home and kick the Republicans from one end of the Capitol to the other.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 32

I voted for Bill Clinton twice. But I advocate no blow jobs in the WH with interns.

Where do you advocate them? Or is the idea that it is OK (no pun intended) in the WH just not with interns?

hey guys, who would have ever thought armatage would turn into a progressive?

gleamed this from c and l and it’s amazing this is armatage

The threat they pose to us is whether we in response to their activities will actually do harm to ourselves by changing our way of life, by suspending writs of habeas corpus and by engaging in such activities as torture.

Twain @ 34

Oklahoma kiddo @ 24

She does interact with the recipient if the extra marital blow job. I would have more respect for the Hill if she had divorced the large dog. That’s of course just a personal opinion about family values.

I hardly think you can compare the Clinton values to the Republican values. Why do you want to trash her because she didn’t divorce Bill? Do you think it’s possible that she loves him? Isn’t any of your business anyway.

I indicated it was a ‘personal opinion’ regarding divorce. Perhaps we should not get into the fmaily values thingie, and stick to issues. Of course that’s a personal viewpoint too.

perris @ 43

hey guys, who would have ever thought armatage would turn into a progressive?

gleamed this from c and l and it’s amazing this is armatage

The threat they pose to us is whether we in response to their activities will actually do harm to ourselves by changing our way of life, by suspending writs of habeas corpus, outing undercover CIA agents, and by engaging in such activities as torture.

Edited for clarity

Boo Radley @ 41

FWIW, I recall when Cheney shot Harry in the face, how many lurkers FDL had who were avid hunters. For days after the shooting, the best information on the kind of gun Dick used, the lethality of bird shot, hunting safety, and other relevant details were in the FDL comments long before they made into the MSM.

Are you suggesting the best information about driving drunk with young women on your lap can also be found here?

Merle Haggard.

In the new “What Happened?” you wonder where America went. Any theories?

In the last 10 years, we’ve lost most of what we claim to be fighting for. We have a police state — helicopters flying above houses, looking to see if they can see some marijuana. America has gone downhill.

You’re not shy about expressing your political opinions, are you?

I should be. I got a family, and there’s somebody liable to kill me. But it’s still a free country — to a point. You can’t really say a lot of things nowadays or somebody in a helicopter might come down a rope on you.

There is a link to the WaPo interview.

Hugh @ 43

Oklahoma kiddo @ 32

I voted for Bill Clinton twice. But I advocate no blow jobs in the WH with interns.

Where do you advocate them? Or is the idea that it is OK (no pun intended) in the WH just not with interns?

Let me narrow it down. No covert blow jobs in the WH between married presidents and interns during or after working hours. It’s a matter of security.

Boo Radley @ 41

FWIW, I recall when Cheney shot Harry in the face, how many lurkers FDL had who were avid hunters. For days after the shooting, the best information on the kind of gun Dick used, the lethality of bird shot, hunting safety, and other relevant details were in the FDL comments long before they made into the MSM.

We also kicked butt in the poetry department….

Think Progress has this about another oinking republican (specially for ET!)

The ‘little oinker’s’ pork.

During Rep. Don Young’s (R-AK) six years chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, the number of earmarks to the annual highway spending bills have more than tripled. A look at how Young has profited in return:

youngspeakslr.jpg — Of the $6.5 million in contributions that Young collected — $5.5 million for his campaign and $1 million for his leadership political action committee (PAC) — about 85 percent came from people who didn’t live in Alaska and couldn’t vote for him.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 49

Hugh @ 43

Where do you advocate them? Or is the idea that it is OK (no pun intended) in the WH just not with interns?

Let me narrow it down. No covert blow jobs in the WH between married presidents and interns during or after working hours. It’s a matter of security.

Now I am really confused. What does that have to do with Hillary and a blue dress? I am missing the line between the dots.

So, does Guliani know anybody who’s not some kind of sleazeball?

Loo Hoo. @ 51

Think Progress has this about another oinking republican (specially for ET!)

The ‘little oinker’s’ pork.

During Rep. Don Young’s (R-AK) six years chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, the number of earmarks to the annual highway spending bills have more than tripled. A look at how Young has profited in return:

youngspeakslr.jpg — Of the $6.5 million in contributions that Young collected — $5.5 million for his campaign and $1 million for his leadership political action committee (PAC) — about 85 percent came from people who didn’t live in Alaska and couldn’t vote for him.

oink, oink!

Loo Hoo. @ 50

Think Progress has this about another oinking republican (specially for ET!)

The ‘little oinker’s’ pork.

During Rep. Don Young’s (R-AK) six years chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, the number of earmarks to the annual highway spending bills have more than tripled. A look at how Young has profited in return:

youngspeakslr.jpg — Of the $6.5 million in contributions that Young collected — $5.5 million for his campaign and $1 million for his leadership political action committee (PAC) — about 85 percent came from people who didn’t live in Alaska and couldn’t vote for him.

All that public spirit brings a tear to my eye. *g*

dakine01 @ 32

KayInMaine @ 9

Well, I suppose Rudy would have “more” family values than Sweeney, because at least Rudy kicked his 2nd wife out of the mansion to move his girlfriend in to give her a nice roof over her head, while Sweeney put his girlfriend in danger by driving drunk at a high rate of speed. See? /snark of course

Actually IIRC, Rudy’s second wife went to court to kick Rudy and his then girlfriend out of Gracie Mansion because it was inappropriate behavior in front of his then minor children and he was not allowed to live there until after she was able to move out with the children. That’s why and when he moved in with the gay couple and slept on the couch.

*blushing* Ooopsie. I seem to be doing that a lot lately. Is politics tiring me out? You betcha! LOL

Well, Rudy was dating his girlfriend in plain site. For a “family values conservative”, he basically sucks:

http://thescotsman.scotsman.co…..=589202003

Later that year Mr Giuliani, charging “cruel and inhuman” treatment, enraged Ms Hanover by announcing that he was suing for divorce without bothering to tell her about it first. Ms Hanover countered by accusing Mr Giuliani of “open and notorious adultery”.

The spat grew increasingly bitter. Mr Giuliani stripped Ms Hanover of her role as official hostess of Gracie Mansion. She retaliated by persuading a judge to bar Ms Nathan, who was appearing publicly with Mr Giuliani, from entering the mansion as long as Ms Hanover lived there with the children.

Ms Hanover also banned him from the master bedroom, forcing him to hole up in a tiny office directly below. Early each morning she would reportedly exercise on her treadmill, ensuring that the mayor, who was still in bed, got little or no sleep.

Mr Giuliani was eventually driven to the Manhattan apartment of Howard Koeppel, a gay millionaire car dealer. He was still living there when the 11 September attacks rocked the city. His wife remained in the mansion until the last day of Mr Giuliani’s office.

cleter @ 53

So, does Guliani know anybody who’s not some kind of sleazeball?

Well, there’s always Pat Robertson. Uh, sorry…..

Twain @ 42

Oklahoma kiddo @ 38

I really don’t give a rat’s ass about the Clinton’s sex life or that of Rudy’s or his friends. But I sure do care about HRC’s and Rudy’s politics. Let’s debate that. I’m ready Freddie.

Apparently you do care since you brought it up. I don’t personally care if the next president has a harem if he or she will restore my rights, follow the Constitution, bring our troops home and kick the Republicans from one end of the Capitol to the other.

It would be so much fun to kick republicans around the front lawn of the White House like a game of croquet.

bobschacht @ 22

So, with all the BFFs like this Giuliani has, and all the un-Gooperlike positions, why haven’t his poll numbers tanked? Is he made out of teflon?

This is so GWB-deja vu. Voters backed Bush in 2000 and 2004 because he’s the kind of guy they’d like to have a beer with? I don’t know whether to be more upset with Giuliani, or with the blissfully ignorant public that is supporting him. Gag me with a spoon!

My question exactly. Why is he and every Repub candidate made of velcro while a Demo campaign (Hillary’s) mixup in a tip at a diner gets top billing (and wide dissemination in reporting). I could list any number of unequal and biased reporting…why did Mrs. McCain’s rant on Mormons (if you have that video, listen to the invective as she pronounces the word) bubble up to the top and get wide coverage? How many more Mafia types and good old boys friends with Rudy need to be indicted before MSM notices?

Frankly, we don’t have a perfect candidate – those who espouse our goal of complete military withdrawal can’t get nominated or elected. But as soon as these early primaries are over, I hope to see liberal Democrats coalesce around a candidate to make stronger for November 08. We will need all the strength and sinew we can muster to win.
Marilyn

Bob in HI

Can we talk about planted questions. Or voting to go to war with Iraq. Or Kyle-Lieberman. Or sitting on the board of directors of WalMart. Or the DLC Leadership Team. Or tepid support for Ned Lamont during his campaign. Or the refusal to debate Tasini. Or the big pharma and defense contributions.

I must have hit the wrong key. Sorry. My comment starts with “My question exactly…”

This whole blue dress kerfuffle…this is why I don’t want Hillary to be our nominee. I don’t want 4 years of every policy discussion to devolve into a micro-analysis of a ten year old bl*w job. I don’t want to see the Clintons, or hear the Clintons, or know what they are doing. Enough. Go away. Bill was articulate and all, but on his good days he was Republican Lite. Thanks for all you did, but go away now. Let go.

KayInMaine @ 59

It would be so much fun to kick republicans around the front lawn of the White House like a game of croquet.

I dream of a time when the criminals that have brought us to the brink of world war 3 are brought before the bar of international justice and answer for the crimes they have committed against posterity

KayInMaine @ 59

Twain @ 42

Apparently you do care since you brought it up. I don’t personally care if the next president has a harem if he or she will restore my rights, follow the Constitution, bring our troops home and kick the Republicans from one end of the Capitol to the other.

It would be so much fun to kick republicans around the front lawn of the White House like a game of croquet.

and in this Wonderland, doing it with pink flamingos

Steve-AR @ 52

Oklahoma kiddo @ 49

Let me narrow it down. No covert blow jobs in the WH between married presidents and interns during or after working hours. It’s a matter of security.

Now I am really confused. What does that have to do with Hillary and a blue dress? I am missing the line between the dots.

You are not alone.

Clinton left the Walmart BOD in 1992 when they went to DC. Sam Walton died in early 92, and when he ran the company they still promoted “made in the USA” and the company wasn’t nearly as aggressive/selfish/evil as they became once his kids took over.

Give it a rest.

More Problems for Rudy’s BFFs

First of all, every REAL American is BFF with Rudy. Secondly, America is stronger and healthier than ever thanks to President George W. Bush and since President-Elect Giuliani subscribes to the same school of Americanist philosophy as President Bush, we should expect to see a new golden age when Giuliani takes the throne.

GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!

cleter @ 63

This whole blue dress kerfuffle…this is why I don’t want Hillary to be our nominee. I don’t want 4 years of every policy discussion to devolve into a micro-analysis of a ten year old bl*w job. I don’t want to see the Clintons, or hear the Clintons, or know what they are doing. Enough. Go away. Bill was articulate and all, but on his good days he was Republican Lite. Thanks for all you did, but go away now. Let go.

Hear! Hear! *dragging & kissing Cleter across the room*

I am sick to death of Clintons & Bushes being in the White House and in the limelight. It would not hurt my feelings if I never saw any of their faces ever again until the day I die at the ripe ole age of 99. Yep! 60 years from now! I’d be happy to go through my life without even a thought about these people.

konservo @ 68

More Problems for Rudy’s BFFs

First of all, every REAL American is BFF with Rudy. Secondly, America is stronger and healthier than ever thanks to President George W. Bush and since President-Elect Giuliani subscribes to the same school of Americanist philosophy as President Bush, we should expect to see a new golden age when Giuliani takes the throne.

GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!

/snark? I hope? LOL

Oh, my, my, my…sure glad I don’t have a Blackberry:

http://www.boxtone.com/Documen…..2006-04-20 BoxTone v2 2 Released.pdf

Panacya

RBG @ 66

Steve-AR @ 52

Now I am really confused. What does that have to do with Hillary and a blue dress? I am missing the line between the dots.

You are not alone.

Now I’m confused. If we want to talk about family values of the Republican Party that’s fine. But, ‘blue dress’ matters then become fair game to the Republicans. This is not a difficult concept. Or is it?cleter @ 63

This whole blue dress kerfuffle…this is why I don’t want Hillary to be our nominee. I don’t want 4 years of every policy discussion to devolve into a micro-analysis of a ten year old bl*w job. I don’t want to see the Clintons, or hear the Clintons, or know what they are doing. Enough. Go away. Bill was articulate and all, but on his good days he was Republican Lite. Thanks for all you did, but go away now. Let go.

Exactly.

This is really strange wingnut “logic”

Apparently, however, we’ve got it all wrong. Charles Krauthammer wants us to know that Giuliani’s DHS recommendation, which even he now concedes was an embarrassing mistake, is actually an encouraging point for the former mayor.

link

No no no no. Please, no.

This is what it will be like, people. President Hillary will propose some kind of proposal, and within five minutes we’ll go from talking about the proposal to talking about that damned blue dress. Instead of talking about the summit meeting, there will be anxious talk about whether Bill is straying again, because they weren’t holding hands at the state dinner.

I don’t want any more of it.

LS @ 71

Oh, my, my, my…sure glad I don’t have a Blackberry:

http://www.boxtone.com/Documen…..2006-04-20 BoxTone v2 2 Released.pdf

Panacya

bad link LS :(

cleter @ 73

No no no no. Please, no.

This is what it will be like, people. President Hillary will propose some kind of proposal, and within five minutes we’ll go from talking about the proposal to talking about that damned blue dress. Instead of talking about the summit meeting, there will be anxious talk about whether Bill is straying again, because they weren’t holding hands at the state dinner.

I don’t want any more of it.

No one wants any more of the blue dress, etc. but should Hillary pay for what Bill did? Just asking.

I’d like everyone to know before it happens so nobody is surprised

if I get elected president I WILL be getting blow jobs in the oval office by womenz half my age

I will also have famous movie starz sneaketed into every corner of the whitehouse and I will be doing the nasty

I will be doing this instead of clearing brush on some ranch

just thought I’d let everyone know so nobody is surprised when the enquirer breaks the story

Does either political party have a lock on so called family values.

perris @ 77

I’d like everyone to know before it happens so nobody is surprised

if I get elected president I WILL be getting blow jobs in the oval office by womenz half my age

I will also have famous movie stars sneaked into every corner of the whitehouse and I will be doing the nasty

I will be doing this instead of clearing brush on some ranch

just thought I’d let everyone know so nobody is surprised when the enquirer breaks the story

707!

KayInMaine @ 70

konservo @ 68

First of all, every REAL American is BFF with Rudy. Secondly, America is stronger and healthier than ever thanks to President George W. Bush and since President-Elect Giuliani subscribes to the same school of Americanist philosophy as President Bush, we should expect to see a new golden age when Giuliani takes the throne.

GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!

/snark? I hope? LOL

I took it is as high quality snark because of the “throne” at the end.

I want new pointless meaningless crap. Chris Matthews speculating about whether or not President Edwards dies his hair. That kind of crap. Not old crap.

Twain @ 76

cleter @ 73

No no no no. Please, no.

This is what it will be like, people. President Hillary will propose some kind of proposal, and within five minutes we’ll go from talking about the proposal to talking about that damned blue dress. Instead of talking about the summit meeting, there will be anxious talk about whether Bill is straying again, because they weren’t holding hands at the state dinner.

I don’t want any more of it.

No one wants any more of the blue dress, etc. but should Hillary pay for what Bill did? Just asking.

Bill should pay for what Bill did.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 77

Does either political party have a lock on so called family values.

Rudy sure appears to have a lock on Mob family values.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 77

Does either political party have a lock on so called family values.

There is no such thing. Each family has its own values and the Republicans would like everyone to adopt theirs but they don’t really have any or live by the ones they profess.

OT/snark: just reading the story about Diane Feinstein “demanding a thorough investigation” of the oil spill we just had in SF Bay.

Maybe she can have Mulkasey waterboard the captain and crew, as well as the Coast Guard personnel involved, just to make sure they get “the facts.”

I can’t believe we’re stuck with this woman. Bleh.

perris @ 77

I’d like everyone to know before it happens so nobody is surprised

if I get elected president I WILL be getting blow jobs in the oval office by womenz half my age

I will also have famous movie starz sneaketed into every corner of the whitehouse and I will be doing the nasty

I will be doing this instead of clearing brush on some ranch

just thought I’d let everyone know so nobody is surprised when the enquirer breaks the story

Oh my, okay.

Ahem. Off topic (LOL…just kidding):

What makes a grown man like Sweeney want to hang out drunk with young people? Is it because he or guys like him have been drinking for years and their brains haven’t aged yet? Their minds are still a teenager?

Perris, any thoughts? LOL

Drives into a pole and knocks out power for a ski resort and leaves people stranded and …

You really can’t make up stuff like that. Wow

OT – epu’d a longer response down on Teddy’s thread, but Selise, MadDog, Saltin – thanks so much.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 78

Does either political party have a lock on so called family values.

Well, it is not so much a lock as handcuffs, some leather, and a few whips, and what they do with them.

Eureka Springs @ 83

Oklahoma kiddo @ 77

Does either political party have a lock on so called family values.

Rudy sure appears to have a lock on Mob family values.

Now that could be referred to as a hot button issue. Allow me to stick my neck out and say I agree. I’m thinking of Bernie here.

Loo Hoo. @ 51

Think Progress has this about another oinking republican (specially for ET!)

The ‘little oinker’s’ pork.

During Rep. Don Young’s (R-AK) six years chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, the number of earmarks to the annual highway spending bills have more than tripled. A look at how Young has profited in return:

youngspeakslr.jpg — Of the $6.5 million in contributions that Young collected — $5.5 million for his campaign and $1 million for his leadership political action committee (PAC) — about 85 percent came from people who didn’t live in Alaska and couldn’t vote for him.

I swear I read that first as “another boinking Republican.”

when i was being born (and excuse the personal anecdote- i just thought it might be relevant) I got stuck in the birth canal.

it was almost a tragedy and would have been EXCEPT for the fact that a young Rudy appeared out of nowhere, donned surgical gear and saved my mother’s life. and I suppose mine too.

so mock all you want. the man is invincible.

KayInMaine @ 86

perris @ 77

I’d like everyone to know before it happens so nobody is surprised

if I get elected president I WILL be getting blow jobs in the oval office by womenz half my age

I will also have famous movie starz sneaketed into every corner of the whitehouse and I will be doing the nasty

I will be doing this instead of clearing brush on some ranch

just thought I’d let everyone know so nobody is surprised when the enquirer breaks the story

Oh my, okay.

Ahem. Off topic (LOL…just kidding):

What makes a grown man like Sweeney want to hang out drunk with young people? Is it because he or guys like him have been drinking for years and their brains haven’t aged yet? Their minds are still a teenager?

Perris, any thoughts? LOL

it’s because we are insecure and we want to prove something to ourselves

I can analyze it I just can’t correct my problem

Twain @ 76

cleter @ 73

No no no no. Please, no.

This is what it will be like, people. President Hillary will propose some kind of proposal, and within five minutes we’ll go from talking about the proposal to talking about that damned blue dress. Instead of talking about the summit meeting, there will be anxious talk about whether Bill is straying again, because they weren’t holding hands at the state dinner.

I don’t want any more of it.

No one wants any more of the blue dress, etc. but should Hillary pay for what Bill did? Just asking.

The short answer is yes. It’s the flip-side of why she is the front runner. Would Hillary be the front runner without Bill? Or would she just be the She-Schumer? Nobody would look twice at NY’s junior senator as a presidential prospect if said jr senator was not also a former first lady. Nobody’s beating down Blanche Lincoln’s doors to get her to run for president, are they?

Bill hurt this community deeply with his failure to support Ned Lamont. FDL has documented very well the chronic failures of Vichy Democrats.

HRC has a chance to break the male only strangle hold on the Oval office. Setting aside political issues, the possibility of not electing a man to that office is a healthy one for the nation and for both genders.

cleter @ 81

I want new pointless meaningless crap. Chris Matthews speculating about whether or not President Edwards dies his hair. That kind of crap. Not old crap.

Good point, which raises a serious question. The Thugs have a lot on the line in ‘08 and the campaign if going to be really ugly. Are the Thugs going to get more mileage from new crap or re-hashing old crap? Are there any more “crap” points to be scored on Hillary or is she immunized?

Blender @ 85

OT/snark: just reading the story about Diane Feinstein “demanding a thorough investigation” of the oil spill we just had in SF Bay.

Maybe she can have Mulkasey waterboard the captain and crew, as well as the Coast Guard personnel involved, just to make sure they get “the facts.”

I can’t believe we’re stuck with this woman. Bleh.

You can thank Dan White.

Hugh @ 88

Oklahoma kiddo @ 78

Does either political party have a lock on so called family values.

Well, it is not so much a lock as handcuffs, some leather, and a few whips, and what they do with them.

Ooooh. I might like it. Only if Ann Coulter were in charge though.

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 91

when i was being born (and excuse the personal anecdote- i just thought it might be relevant) I got stuck in the birth canal.

it was almost a tragedy and would have been EXCEPT for the fact that a young Rudy appeared out of nowhere, donned surgical gear and saved my mother’s life. and I suppose mine too.

so mock all you want. the man is invincible.

…he once saved me from getting hit by a bus and he was even eating a sandwich with his other hand at the time he pulled me out of the intersection. I will spend the rest of my life honoring this great man!

Blender @ 85

OT/snark: just reading the story about Diane Feinstein “demanding a thorough investigation” of the oil spill we just had in SF Bay.

Maybe she can have Mulkasey waterboard the captain and crew, as well as the Coast Guard personnel involved, just to make sure they get “the facts.”

I can’t believe we’re stuck with this woman. Bleh.

You are way off base. She will give immunity to the captain, crew, and the oil companies. And per TeddySanFran’s thread below she will have the concerned citizens trying to clean up the mess waterboarded. You have to understand she has values and priorities.

Boo Radley @ 94

Bill hurt this community deeply with his failure to support Ned Lamont. FDL has documented very well the chronic failures of Vichy Democrats.

HRC has a chance to break the male only strangle hold on the Oval office. Setting aside political issues, the possibility of not electing a man to that office is a healthy one for the nation and for both genders.

i might agree with you except that she seems more like margaret thatcher than Starhawk.

KayInMaine @ 86

What makes a grown man like Sweeney want to hang out drunk with young people?

KayInMaine – you lack imagination. And that is a compliment.

She’s not immunized.

perris @ 92

KayInMaine @ 86

Oh my, okay.

Ahem. Off topic (LOL…just kidding):

What makes a grown man like Sweeney want to hang out drunk with young people? Is it because he or guys like him have been drinking for years and their brains haven’t aged yet? Their minds are still a teenager?

Perris, any thoughts? LOL

it’s because we are insecure and we want to prove something to ourselves

I can analyze it I just can’t correct my problem

Hey, you’re honest. *signing up for internship for the 2008 Perris presidency* ;-)

Blender @ 85

OT/snark: just reading the story about Diane Feinstein “demanding a thorough investigation” of the oil spill we just had in SF Bay.

Is that like “code” to let the oil lobby know they better ante up!

newtonusr @ 101

KayInMaine @ 86

What makes a grown man like Sweeney want to hang out drunk with young people?

KayInMaine – you lack imagination. And that is a compliment.

Why thank you.

KayInMaine @ 97

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 91

when i was being born (and excuse the personal anecdote- i just thought it might be relevant) I got stuck in the birth canal.

it was almost a tragedy and would have been EXCEPT for the fact that a young Rudy appeared out of nowhere, donned surgical gear and saved my mother’s life. and I suppose mine too.

so mock all you want. the man is invincible.

…he once saved me from getting hit by a bus and he was even eating a sandwich with his other hand at the time he pulled me out of the intersection. I will spend the rest of my life honoring this great man!

And oddly enough my uncle was driving that bus!!! he’s told me that story many many times. And also about the time a bear tried to get into his tent at a national park.

Guess who showed up with a flashlight and riding crop in the nick of time?

KayInMaine @ 97

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 91

when i was being born (and excuse the personal anecdote- i just thought it might be relevant) I got stuck in the birth canal.

it was almost a tragedy and would have been EXCEPT for the fact that a young Rudy appeared out of nowhere, donned surgical gear and saved my mother’s life. and I suppose mine too.

so mock all you want. the man is invincible.

…he once saved me from getting hit by a bus and he was even eating a sandwich with his other hand at the time he pulled me out of the intersection. I will spend the rest of my life honoring this great man!

Rudy healed my leprosy.

Mein Fuhrer! I can walk!!!

KayInMaine @ 97

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 91

when i was being born (and excuse the personal anecdote- i just thought it might be relevant) I got stuck in the birth canal.

it was almost a tragedy and would have been EXCEPT for the fact that a young Rudy appeared out of nowhere, donned surgical gear and saved my mother’s life. and I suppose mine too.

so mock all you want. the man is invincible.

…he once saved me from getting hit by a bus and he was even eating a sandwich with his other hand at the time he pulled me out of the intersection. I will spend the rest of my life honoring this great man!

did you guys see rudy is actually blaiming clinton for bringing our armed forces to the brink of breakdown?

yup, not bush but clinton…no, really, he really did

Rudy healed my leprosy.

Mein Fuhrer! I can walk!!!
cleter

the Albert Schweitzer of Manhatten!!!!

well, everybody knows that Clinton botched the invasion of Iraq and was personally responsible for that chinese sub popping up out of nowhere interrupting the pacific war games!!!

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 106

KayInMaine @ 97

…he once saved me from getting hit by a bus and he was even eating a sandwich with his other hand at the time he pulled me out of the intersection. I will spend the rest of my life honoring this great man!

And oddly enough my uncle was driving that bus!!! he’s told me that story many many times. And also about the time a bear tried to get into his tent at a national park.

Guess who showed up with a flashlight and riding crop in the nick of time?

Get out! It was Rudy, wasn’t it? Damn. I heard your mother was on his back when he saved your uncle from the bear!

OMG *patting tears away* Rudy loves all of us. I feel it.

cleter @ 102

She’s not immunized.

You are probably right. It’s starting early.

Harper’s

Hugh @ 43

Oklahoma kiddo @ 32

I voted for Bill Clinton twice. But I advocate no blow jobs in the WH with interns.

Where do you advocate them? Or is the idea that it is OK (no pun intended) in the WH just not with interns?

maybe the Lincoln log bedroom?

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 109

Rudy healed my leprosy.

Mein Fuhrer! I can walk!!!
cleter

the Albert Schweitzer of Manhatten!!!!

We should just dispense with all that election flim-flammery and just declare him our God-King right now. America’s Uber-Mayor for Life!

Shall we judge the generosity of the man by the price of his third wifes handbags?

Get out! It was Rudy, wasn’t it? Damn. I heard your mother was on his back when he saved your uncle from the bear!

OMG *patting tears away* Rudy loves all of us. I feel it.

:-)
“Dad”

Oklahoma kiddo @ 78

Does either political party have a lock on so called family values.

I do not care what people do in their private lives, it’s the often illegal and/or exploitive and (always) hypocritical nature of the transgressions committed by the GOP family values crowd that is of concern to me.

The GOP loudly bashed the charges as baseless during the Gillibrand race. That was bullshit.

And frankly nothing I’ve seen on this thread draws any comparison worth making to Hillary Clinton.

The whole thing smacks of something I do not think highly of and am going to be a bit more aggressive about challenging in the comments, FYI.

perris @ 108

KayInMaine @ 97

…he once saved me from getting hit by a bus and he was even eating a sandwich with his other hand at the time he pulled me out of the intersection. I will spend the rest of my life honoring this great man!

did you guys see rudy is actually blaiming clinton for bringing our armed forces to the brink of breakdown?

yup, not bush but clinton…no, really, he really did

Oh yes. Let’s not blame Rumsfeld either for wanting to decrease the size of the military to make room for more big ole bombs and other fun “gadgets”!

I don’t think family values issues will play well. Iraq, Iran, global warming, corruption, health care (or lack of it) education, the price of home heating oil and gasoline, the economy etc., might though.

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 105

KayInMaine @ 97

…he once saved me from getting hit by a bus and he was even eating a sandwich with his other hand at the time he pulled me out of the intersection. I will spend the rest of my life honoring this great man!

And oddly enough my uncle was driving that bus!!! he’s told me that story many many times. And also about the time a bear tried to get into his tent at a national park.

Guess who showed up with a flashlight and riding crop in the nick of time?

Are ya sure that wasn’t JUDY with the riding crop? Just askin’ now…

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 110

well, everybody knows that Clinton botched the invasion of Iraq and was personally responsible for that chinese sub popping up out of nowhere interrupting the pacific war games!!!

That was a true wake-up call! A Diesel-Electric Sub! IIRC, the Chinese had sold Iran some Subs awhile back…

LS @ 71

Oh, my, my, my…sure glad I don’t have a Blackberry:

http://www.boxtone.com/Documen…..2006-04-20 BoxTone v2 2 Released.pdf

Panacya

page not found.

family values in iraq have benefitted greatly from the invasion.

but we all knew that.

Steve-AR @ 73

This is really strange wingnut “logic”

Apparently, however, we’ve got it all wrong. Charles Krauthammer wants us to know that Giuliani’s DHS recommendation, which even he now concedes was an embarrassing mistake, is actually an encouraging point for the former mayor.

link

Cannot read this link!

Eureka Springs @ 115

Shall we judge the generosity of the man by the price of his third wifes handbags?

A man that great can have as many wives as he wants. I think, once he ascends to the throne, that all American women–except the handful he’s already divorced–should be his wives. Such was the custom of the Assyrian kings of old. I think we should do no less for Rudolph the Mighty.

CTuttle @ 121

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 110

well, everybody knows that Clinton botched the invasion of Iraq and was personally responsible for that chinese sub popping up out of nowhere interrupting the pacific war games!!!

That was a true wake-up call! A Diesel-Electric Sub! IIRC, the Chinese had sold Iran some Subs awhile back…

interesting.

Jane Hamsher @ 117

Oklahoma kiddo @ 78

Does either political party have a lock on so called family values.

I do not care what people do in their private lives, it’s the often illegal and/or exploitive and (always) hypocritical nature of the transgressions committed by the GOP family values crowd that is of concern to me.

The GOP loudly bashed the charges as baseless during the Gillibrand race. That was bullshit.

And frankly nothing I’ve seen on this thread draws any comparison worth making to Hillary Clinton.

The whole thing smacks of something I do not think highly of and am going to be a bit more aggressive about challenging in the comments, FYI.

Good.

How the hell did we start talking about Hillary, anyhow?

Jane Hamsher @ 117

Oklahoma kiddo @ 78

Does either political party have a lock on so called family values.

I do not care what people do in their private lives, it’s the often illegal and/or exploitive and (always) hypocritical nature of the transgressions committed by the GOP family values crowd that is of concern to me.

The GOP loudly bashed the charges as baseless during the Gillibrand race. That was bullshit.

And frankly nothing I’ve seen on this thread draws any comparison worth making to Hillary Clinton.

The whole thing smacks of something I do not think highly of and am going to be a bit more aggressive about challenging in the comments, FYI.

Digby has really fine tuned my antennae on that subject.

If only Bill Clinton with Hillary’s urging had not demanded a conference call with George and Rudy on 9-11.. we wouldn’t be in this mess today.

Loo Hoo. @ 124

Steve-AR @ 73

This is really strange wingnut “logic”

Apparently, however, we’ve got it all wrong. Charles Krauthammer wants us to know that Giuliani’s DHS recommendation, which even he now concedes was an embarrassing mistake, is actually an encouraging point for the former mayor.

link

Cannot read this link!

Odd works for me..I’ll try again

TPM

Here is the title:
Krauthammer’s Kerik rationalization

Does my party or the Republican Party stand for family values?

I had this poster and couldnt figure out how to attach it to the wall, and out of the blue Judith Guiliani appeared with her magical stapler and stapled it to the wall for me.

Never forget!

Kerik going to prison only underlies the moral superiority of rudy guliani and the republican party.

***cough***

Steve-AR @ 95

cleter @ 81

I want new pointless meaningless crap. Chris Matthews speculating about whether or not President Edwards dies his hair. That kind of crap. Not old crap.

Good point, which raises a serious question. The Thugs have a lot on the line in ‘08 and the campaign if going to be really ugly. Are the Thugs going to get more mileage from new crap or re-hashing old crap? Are there any more “crap” points to be scored on Hillary or is she immunized?

I can tell you one thing. She better freaking watch how she claps.

What defines family values?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 132

Does my party or the Republican Party stand for family values?

Why do we need a party to endorse our family values? My family is none of either party’s damned business.

Jane…How did we do with the anti-Rahm fund raising?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 49

Hugh @ 43

Where do you advocate them? Or is the idea that it is OK (no pun intended) in the WH just not with interns?

Let me narrow it down. No covert blow jobs in the WH between married presidents and interns during or after working hours. It’s a matter of security.

OK, I’m sure this is tongue in cheek.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 119

I don’t think family values issues will play well. Iraq, Iran, global warming, corruption, health care (or lack of it) education, the price of home heating oil and gasoline, the economy etc., might though.

High gasoline prices in particular seem a focus for the dissatisfaction of many Americans. I have said this before but the signs carrying the price of gasoline at service stations are a powerful and free form of political advertizing. Americans are exposed to this not just when they fill up their tank but essentially anytime they get in their cars. The message is that Bush and the Republicans are not doing their jobs in ways that directly affect ordinary Americans.

just where the heck did LS go?

smapdi @ 133

I had this poster and couldnt figure out how to attach it to the wall, and out of the blue Judith Guiliani appeared with her magical stapler and stapled it to the wall for me.

Never forget!

have you ever had her potato salad? oh man.
sometimes you just have to tap your shoes together and visualize mother theresa and mrs. guiliani shows up with some good ol’ fashioned family style eatin.’

Marilyn In Texas @ 139

Oklahoma kiddo @ 49

Let me narrow it down. No covert blow jobs in the WH between married presidents and interns during or after working hours. It’s a matter of security.

OK, I’m sure this is tongue in cheek.

Yes. ;0)

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 106

KayInMaine @ 97

…he once saved me from getting hit by a bus and he was even eating a sandwich with his other hand at the time he pulled me out of the intersection. I will spend the rest of my life honoring this great man!

And oddly enough my uncle was driving that bus!!! he’s told me that story many many times. And also about the time a bear tried to get into his tent at a national park.

Guess who showed up with a flashlight and riding crop in the nick of time?

Bernie Kerik?

It appears the Mob has been declining and even their Mob hits are a thing of the past. This could explain why Guiliani wanted Kerik to have a job in US government. He was unemployed people! Hey, Mobsters have to eat too ya know.

Jees.

Guliani turned New York into a paradise on Earth. The subways smelled like fresh-baked bread when he was mayor.

Now, alas, they smell like urine and people’s feet. And Bill Clinton, of course. His foul reek is everywhere!

Hugh @ 140

Oklahoma kiddo @ 119

I don’t think family values issues will play well. Iraq, Iran, global warming, corruption, health care (or lack of it) education, the price of home heating oil and gasoline, the economy etc., might though.

High gasoline prices in particular seem a focus for the dissatisfaction of many Americans. I have said this before but the signs carrying the price of gasoline at service stations are a powerful and free form of political advertizing. Americans are exposed to this not just when they fill up their tank but essentially anytime they get in their cars. The message is that Bush and the Republicans are not doing their jobs in ways that directly affect ordinary Americans.

IMO about 42% of the adult population is immune to evidence or logic..they will vote against their self interest if the “right button” is pushed in the more primitive parts of the brain.

Loo Hoo. @ 124

Steve-AR @ 73

This is really strange wingnut “logic”

Apparently, however, we’ve got it all wrong. Charles Krauthammer wants us to know that Giuliani’s DHS recommendation, which even he now concedes was an embarrassing mistake, is actually an encouraging point for the former mayor.

link

Cannot read this link!

Loo Hoo, try allowing one of the scripts (that is, if you’re using Firefox). I had that problem on TPM too.

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 134

Kerik going to prison only underlies the moral superiority of rudy guliani and the republican party.

***cough***

I wonder if Bernie is shaking down sending a message to Rudy and W, “I want the same level support that Scooter got.”

cleter @ 137

Oklahoma kiddo @ 132

Does my party or the Republican Party stand for family values?

Why do we need a party to endorse our family values? My family is none of either party’s damned business.

I am unable to answer your question.

Boo Radley @ 149

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 134

Kerik going to prison only underlies the moral superiority of rudy guliani and the republican party.

***cough***

I wonder if Bernie is sending a message shaking down to Rudy and W, “I want the same level support that Scooter got?”

“Sorry, you’re not the same level of thug. You’re just a button man, Bernie.”

High gasoline prices in particular seem a focus for the dissatisfaction of many Americans. I have said this before but the signs carrying the price of gasoline at service stations are a powerful and free form of political advertizing. Americans are exposed to this not just when they fill up their tank but essentially anytime they get in their cars. The message is that Bush and the Republicans are not doing their jobs in ways that directly affect ordinary Americans.

Bullsye!

Rudy ordered a DHS chief and all he got was an bald-headed albatross.

Boo Radley,
Gas prices had a powerful effect on the Ohio electorate in the 2006 election.
It’s much worse now, and people have to drive far from this town to find a job that pays half-way decent.

What are family values? I have no idea how to define it. I like to think of it as whatever you personally are comfortable with, but even then, others may not like the choices you make or what you’re teaching your children or living your life. Like Jane pointed out above, it’s nobody’s business what others are doing in their homes, unless of course, if there is inc*st, child abuse/molestation, and physical abuse then I think it’s everybody’s business.

The GOP does a lot of finger pointing when it comes to family values. They are the REAL hypocrites in all of this.

Asian markets down on Monday trading..Nikkei down 2.5%.

The impression here is that voters have a feel for the family values and politics of both parties now. Perhaps, hence the low numbers for both parties.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 155

The impression here is that voters have a feel for the family values and politics of both parties now. Perhaps, hence the low numbers for both parties.

It means that people no longer care about this family values crap. They would rather talk about feeding their families. The Republicans started this talk years ago about “family values” and of course, like good little soldiers, the Dems bought into it. Enough.

Lahoma tells me that Rudy and Hillary are out of touch.

If the market slumps too low, it will be obvious we will need another war.

You know, I aspire to write that kind of comedy but understand that it is just not within my grasp.

This sounds like something straight out of a really bad Chevy Chase flick. (Yeah, I know, I’m being redundant.)

Oklahoma kiddo @ 160

If the market slumps too low, it will be obvious we will need another war.

And a tax cut.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 158

Lahoma tells me that Rudy and Hillary are out of touch.

Rudy only thinks of the common people when it’s time to feed, and he needs fresh entrails to sate his unholy hungers.

Pakistan expelling UK journalists.

(Why is AQ Kahn still alive? Why doe we have a CIA if they cant off a guy like this?)

Here’s a look at how the Iraq war money could have been used. Boston Globe via HuffPo.

If/when the first bomb falls on Iran, our economy will bypass the recession and go directly to depression.

smapdi @ 163

Pakistan expelling UK journalists.

(Why is AQ Kahn still alive? Why doe we have a CIA if they cant off a guy like this?)

Now that’s the type of thinking that so endears Americans to the rest of the world.

Steve-AR @ 166

If/when the first bomb falls on Iran, our economy will bypass the recession and go directly to depression.

I know that’ll be my first stop

Steve-AR @ 166

If/when the first bomb falls on Iran, our economy will bypass the recession and go directly to depression.

Any good news? Please? ;-)

Now here’s a new detail left out of some news accounts of the Sweeney arrest.

State Police say Sweeney was operating a vehicle which nearly struck their police cruiser as they were responding to an unrelated call. Sweeney’s blew a .18, more than twice the state’s legal threshold of .08 blood alcohol content.

LINK

In 2001, he drove his Jeep into a telephone pole in the Adirondacks, shutting off electricity to the nearby Willard Mt. resort and stranding skiers on a chair lift.

You know, I aspire to write that kind of comedy but understand that it is just not within my grasp.

I’ve been searching for a little while in vain for a quote, I believe from Robert Musil, which goes roughly, “Those passages of the text about which I receive the most complaints of ‘unrealistic fantasy’ are invariably those I have copied directly from the newspaper articles. “

persiflage @ 167

smapdi @ 163

Pakistan expelling UK journalists.

(Why is AQ Kahn still alive? Why doe we have a CIA if they cant off a guy like this?)

Now that’s the type of thinking that so endears Americans to the rest of the world.

Persi- I am pissed that we are in bed with Pakistan while they harbor the world’s worst nuclear proliferator ever.

okk, with respect, i’ll call your ‘don’t give rat’s ass’ and raise you; ‘i don’t give a hamster fart’ for the clinton branch of the cheney-bush crime family.

peas!

ms hamsher @117, with respect, you remind me of nathan hale. thank you for an inclusive forum.

peas!

cleter @ 128

How the hell did we start talking about Hillary, anyhow?

Somewhere in greater blogtopia there must be a corollary to Godwin’s Law that can predict how long it will take before a post about a Rethug scandal devolves into raising 10 year old accusations about the Clintons.

beg pardon, jane @116.

peas!

TheOtherWA @ 169

Now here’s a new detail left out of some news accounts of the Sweeney arrest.

State Police say Sweeney was operating a vehicle which nearly struck their police cruiser as they were responding to an unrelated call. Sweeney’s blew a .18, more than twice the state’s legal threshold of .08 blood alcohol content.

LINK

and the 23 year old in his lap. I wonder; what did she ‘blow’ on the family values
blood alcohol content?

I can confirm the OtherWA and Mabel’s Wig Shack from here in Albany. The reason Sweeny got AGGRAVATED DUI is that he blew a 1.8, not a 1.0. That is more than twice the state limit, and therefore, cannot be pled down to a mere citation.