Over the last few months we've discussed organic foods, the precautionary principle, global warming, the farm bill, and the rivers of tax-subsidized water from Federal projects sluiced onto millions of acres of Big Ag commodity farms - to grow subsidized crops for subidized exports.
America, what a country!
What a countrycide.....
dying at the hands of BigAg and their purchased servants in the Executive Branch and Congress.
The Center For Food Safety's visionary, accessible 2002 book Fatal Harvest dissects the anatomy of lethal Industrial Ag processes and the homicidal policy choices Big Ag slams into the Body Politic - and the biosphere - to forestall the DT's of withdrawal from the Treasury's teat. In this anthology of essays and photojournalism, organic grower Jason McKenny describes the diminishing returns of Industrial Ag:
"The production of...fertilizers cosnumes more energy than any other aspect of the agricultural process. It takes the energy from burning 2,200 tons of coal to produce 5.5 pounds of usable nitrogen....
"This economic model of farming made some sense when we were mining the biological reserves of fertility bound in our soil humus. Now it is a crisis of diminishing returns. In 1980 in the US, the application of a ton of fertilizers resulted in an average yield of 15 to 20 tons of corn. By 1997, this same ton of fertilizer yielded only 5 to 10 tons. Between 1910 and 1983, United States corn yields increased 346 percent while our energy consumption for agriculture increased 810 percent. [snip]
"The biological health of soils has been driven into such an impoverished state at the expense of quick, easy fertility that productivity is now compromised, and fertilizers are less and less effective. [snip]
"The UN Food and Agriculture organization in 1997 declared that Mexico and the United States had "hit the wall" on wheat yields, with no increases shown in 13 years."
p 242, Fatal Harvest
As we've discussed, TFB is kinda like the doggie bag of megacorp subsidies: if someone somewhere can get Federal dollars related to food, the program was scraped off the legislative platter and dumped in TFB. Big War learned to seed Congressional districts across the US with small local contracts for big useless programs, ensuring local advocates for anything Big War's wholly-owned colonels in Pentagon procurement programs want to fob off on Congress - and us, the people who pay the subsidies.
While our schools and bridges and hospitals literally fall apart, and one quarter of America's homeless are America's own veterns.
Now Industrial Food and Big Ag aren't about to let Big War steal a march on them in the great race for world champion of lethal greed.
Big War merely keeps Congressional districts hostage? Hah! Big Toxic Food and Industrial Ag have reached down and grabbed nearly every frikking public school in America as hostages. And - just to make sure - Big Toxic Crap Food and Industrial Ag grabbed all the poor babies and moms to be.
Hey - it's that whole compassionate conservatve thing, right?
Where do Big Toxic Crap Food and Big Industrial Ag keep all those moms and babies hostage? After all, even crumbling schools still take up a lot of space.
Why - in The Farm Bill. Where else?
Big Toxic Junk/Ag's hostages in TFB include “Title IV” - the Nutrition Programs - include food stamps, emergency food assistance, school lunches, Women, Infant and Children Program (WIC) and the Farmers' Market Nutrition Program. These programs take up nearly half (48.4%) of total TFB spending, and rightly so - they serve the neediest in our society.
The Toxic Junk/Ag megacorps have protected the billions for plutocrats in the TFB by holding Federal Nutrition Programs (and other Federal farm programs that actually help us survive) hostage to the absurdly bloated "Commodity Programs".
Collectively known as TFB's "Title I", the Commodity Programs lavish our tax dollars on a few heavily subidized commodity crops the US exports - enriching Cargill, ADM, and the wealthiest farmers and farm landowners.
The price? Merely a third of TFB.
Well, in 2006, the big five crops in the Commodity Program - corn, cotton, wheat, rice, and soybeans - gobbled up 92% of Title I tax subsidies in the form of 19 billion dollars of direct support payments. And - just the rest of our winner-take-all Federal programs under the Bushies - the big boys at the top get the goodies:
According to the Congressional Research Service, 84 percent of commodity support spending goes to the production of just five crops: corn, cotton, wheat, rice, and soybeans. Half of that money currently goes to just seven states that produce most of those commodities. The richest ten percent of farm-subsidy recipients (many of whom are corporations and absentee landowners who can hardly be classified as “actively engaged ” in growing crops) take in more than two-thirds of those payments.
A few other broad brushstrokes:
* Almost 50 percent of all commodity subsidies went to 5 percent of eligible farmers in 2005.
* Subsidies help the largest farms to acquire the best land and squeeze out smaller growers.
* The growth rate for jobs trailed the national average in nearly two-thirds of counties receiving heavy subsidies between 2000 and 2003, according to a recent report.
Once again - what are those five crops? :
Corn (massive dependence on subsidized fertilizer/pesticides/diesel)
Wheat (massive dependence on subsidized fertilizer/pesticides/diesel)
Cotton (massive dependence on subsidized water/fertilizer/pesticides/diesel)
Rice (massive dependence on subsidized water fertilizer/pesticides/diesel)
Soybeans (massive dependence on subsidized fertilizer/pesticides/diesel)
Where not grown with Federally subsidized water from Federally subsidized taxpayer financed Federal Water Projects (as is the case for rice, cotton, and soy in California's Sacramento and San Joaquin River Valleys - aka "Central Valley"), wheat, cotton, corn, and soy raised for export are increasingly watered by mining America's aquifers. The result - using subidized fossil fuels to mine water from ancient aqifers so rapidly the aquifers cannot replenish - so well levels fall, pumping costs rise, and Cargill/ADM/Big Ag grow ever fatter sellig our grandkids' ground water.
Oh - what powers the vast network of pumps that suck water out of California rivers and onto Big Ag's subsidized commodity crops?
Taxpayer subidized fossil fuels.
'Cause our soldiers' blood - and the global network of US war bases from which they issue forth to die - are the price of Bush/Cheney's Perpetual War for Diminishing Oil.
The same subsidized oil Industrial Ag burns to make the pesticides and fertilizers and power the tractor that spreads them and the harvester that reaps them and the grain elevators that lift and store them - so they may be exported far away, to the greater glory of the Cargills, the Bosworths, and the price fixing cartel known as ArcherDanielsMidland.
And - at the same time Big Ag is pumping America dry for food exports, the clever greedballs have declared the near-perpetual drought on the Northern Great Plains an "emergency", adding a whole slew of new megacorp subsidies to the hostage-takers in TFB.
And ensuring a whole river of Federal subsidies to draw down what groundwater still remains to catastophically low levels.
Pity the market's invisible hand hasn't learned dowsing...
Every year, Congress is pressed to provide emergency ad hoc disaster aid to farmers and ranchers who have suffered weather damage to crops and livestock. Over the past 21 years (1985-2005), taxpayers have provided $26 billion in emergency agricultural disaster aid to more than two million farm and ranch operations. USDA sent out disaster aid checks every year for the past two decades, with payouts exceeding one billion dollars in 11 of the 21 years.... [snip]
Now the Senate Finance Committee reportedly is considering a permanent trust fund that would set aside $5 billion that could be paid in disaster aid to farmers and ranchers without resort to ad hoc legislation.
....most of this $5 billion would go to just a few states where agricultural disaster "emergencies" are in fact routine, virtually annual occurrences, primarily because of low rainfall. These same states are among the biggest recipients of crop subsidies, conservation aid, and federally subsidized crop insurance claims.
EWG examined the history of disaster aid payments to the 20 states currently represented on the Senate Finance Committee and found that over the past 21 years, those states have collected some $9 billion in ad hoc disaster payments, roughly one-third of the $26 billion total paid nationwide. However, just four states on the committee collected 55 percent of that $9 billion (North Dakota, Kansas, Iowa and Montana). Future disaster aid is expected to follow the same pattern.
[snip]
Indeed, agricultural disaster aid should be thought of as serving two distinct groups of farmers and ranchers. The overwhelming majority rarely receives disaster checks from taxpayers, and the amount of assistance is modest. The second group, the primary source of the political pressure for disaster aid every year, is a small minority of the recipients who are chronically dependent on disaster aid. Over two decades this group has collected ad hoc disaster checks every other year, if not more frequently.
[snip]
But a minority of the recipients are chronic beneficiaries of disaster funds, with some 21,000 of them (about 1 percent of recipients) collecting disaster aid more than 11 years out of 21, amounting to $2.5 billion, or almost 10 percent of the total payments....This small minority of farmers, located in a handful of states, would be the chief beneficiaries of a permanent trust fund for disaster aid because they would be applying for it almost every year.
[snip]
While every state received at least some disaster payments over the period, five states--Texas, South Dakota, North Dakota, Oklahoma and Georgia--account for 67 percent of the chronic beneficiaries who collected disaster funds every other year, or more often, for two decades (Table 2). The heavy concentration of chronic recipients in Texas, South Dakota, North Dakota and Oklahoma simply reflects the difficulty of raising crops and to a lesser degree livestock in a region of perennially low rainfall. It also raises the question of whether taxpayers ought to be obligated to provide a continuous stream of aid when "disaster emergency" is the rule and not the exception.
Uh - Kirk? Your Saturday posts are getting depressing. Could we have a sprinkling of good news?
Hey - how about a big hunk of Farm Bill worth of good news?
In the last few weeks, the Congress has grown a gonad or two (internal or external, take your choice) and seems to be standing up to Big Ag and Big Toxic Crap Food.
Well - OK - some of the Congress.
Three Senate Amendments will help make the Farm Bill a whole lot safer for our children, our nation and the planet.
And they deserve our support.
Ken Cook, president of Environmental Working Group, said the farm bill "will be first and foremost a test of the leadership of the Democratic Party that now controls the Senate. ... They have to decide if they're the party of big agriculture or not." [snip]
"I think it's real clear that Boxer and Feinstein are really crucial swing votes," said Mark Lipson, policy program director for the Organic Farming Research Foundation in Santa Cruz. "It could really come down to them making the difference."
Faber said environmental groups were targeting Boxer, a longtime environmental advocate who chairs the Environment and Public Works Committee.
"You have a drought in California," Faber said, noting that some of the state's subsidized cotton acreage also gets federal water subsidies. "Aren't you guys going to be voting on new infrastructure to increase access for water?"
Boxer, he said, "ought to be concerned about this. Water is going to be the next crisis in the West. We all see it. So why should we use water to produce a commodity that is in surplus and actually works against our interests? It does not make any sense."
Call DiFi, Boxer, and your home Senators. Tell them you love your family and you don't want them poisoned or slow-cooked on a baking planet. Tell them you want to live - and you want them to support three amendements to TFB: The FRESH Act, the Dorgan-Grassley Amendment, and the Brown-Durbin amendment.
The FRESH act: Sen. Harkin and Sen. Lautenberg are co-sponsoring the FRESH alternative to TFB's Title I Commodity Program scams:
FRESH would massively overhaul farm subsidies that Lugar claims are unfair and assist large farmers at the expense of the whole nation's agricultural health. Instead of subsidies, the reform bill would provide a federally backed insurance program that would be free for all growers.
"For the first time, each farmer would receive expanded county-based crop insurance policies, that would cover, either, 85-percent of expected crop revenue or yield or 80-percent of a farm's 5-year average adjusted gross revenue," said Lugar.
The savings - some estimates say $16 billion worth - would fund, among other things, feeding and conservation programs along with biofuel research.
Dorgan-Grassley limits farm subsidies to a maximum of $250,000 per farmer. If FRESH fails, D-G will help staunch the subsidies bleeding Federal deficit spending into the wealthiest Americans' pockets.
Brown-Durbin slaps Big Insurance, which currently steals more than 50% of every dollar in Federal crop insurance dollars away from the farmers.
This fight is worth having. As my colleague Mladen Golubić, M.D noted at HuPo:
Wondering what the Farm Bill has to do with sick people? Despite its name, the Farm Bill doesn't just affect farmers. It's a colossal piece of legislation that to a large extent determines what foods are grown in America, how much they end up costing, and what we end up eating. In other words, it has a big impact on whether people have easy access to the nutritious foods that will help them prevent diet-related diseases. The Farm Bill's main influence stems from the enormous subsidies it gives farmers-more than $70 billion between 1995 and 2005 for food production alone. Unfortunately, more than 80 percent of this money goes to producers of sugar, oil, alcohol, meat, dairy, and feed crops. Soy, corn, and other feed crops are mostly used to fatten up cows and other animals that get turned into cheeseburgers and other high-fat, high-cholesterol products.
This subsidy system rewards farmers for growing foods that contribute to high blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes, and other diet-related diseases I treat every day.
We can do beter - we're America. Call DiFi and Boxer and your home state Senators - tell them it's past time for them to help.
Bon Appetit!
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zedunoFitzeroo?
I’ll go tell ‘em
DAM!
Oh, Dr…Kirk
is there a typo in your title?
FunnyD
I’d like to see proof of that.
So per Ian, does this qualify as a “negative externality”?
Jane Hamsher @ 6
Yes.
And, part of the problem is a sort of whack-a-mole thingy. When I worked in banking risk management, we’d have these discussions on the relative impacts of “when you recognize revenue.” Similarly with negative externalities, which are often masked both in space and time. “Chickens taking their sweet time and circuitous routes coming home, that sort of thing.
I’m against the act if it contains any of the following:
Any money that supports Monsanto, period.
Anything that supports or perpetuates Monsanto’s evil seed patenting.
Any legislation that says that I have to register with some a**hole registry, every single animal that lives on my property.
Anything that creates more incentive for big AG phony ethanol crop incentives.
If it contains any of that, I oppose such a bill.
What is in the stinkin’ bill??
bobbyg,thanks for your interest.
The quoted calculationis from Fatal Harvest on the cited page of the paperback edition (still massive).
The title - sans photojournalism - is also available as Fatal Harvest Reader.
Pelosi’s been crowing about what a triumph this is for her over the past few months.
Another reason to shitcan her ass…
OT.
Raginggurrl’s got a DK diary up on our Schumer visit. Please stop by and recommend.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/10/16234/203
Kirk James Murphy, M.D. @ 9
OK. But…”cookingi”? Am I missing some cultural reference?
FunnyDiva
Important post - and while I’ve lost all faith in my California senators I will do my best to communicate the utter madness of the nightmarish subsidies. THANK YOU DOCTOR!
LS, so near as I can tell all TFB versions carry the evil microchipping provision - forces small producers and households to register their animals.
I’m concerned that the FRESH act wil lfree up more funds for the globe-cooking ethanol scam. As writte, FB oes that anyway - I’ve been unable to figure FRESH adds or subtracts to net subsidies for ethanol.
Kirk James Murphy, M.D. @ 9
I trained in forensic environmental radiation science in Oak Ridge, a domain wherein I had to document and scientifically justify every digit of quantitation during my long tenure in the field. When I see some huge number asserted, my instant reaction is “linky?” That’s all.
What is more important than Mother Earth being able to breathe?
Kirk! Thanks for another great post, tho I have to confess I have not totally digested it.
But, an earlier post of yours, which talked much more about water, the water consumed by crops farmed by big ag was an eye-opener for me.
The Farm Bill: Water - Drink It, Or Export It? Oooh - I Know - Let’s Subsidize Water Exports!
Perhaps you can add a link to this in your current post.
The ethanol scam has pushed this one into overdrive; in addition to increasing air pollution as coal is now becoming the preferred fuel for fermentation and distillation. And the small matter of diverting a food crop.
Calling or writing DiFi is a waste of time. Trust me, I have much experience.
I oppose everything that goes through Congress until impeachment is on the table, and the wars are ended, and legislation is passed that prohibits more wars..it is that simple.
I am now registering as a Contrarian. The Contrarian Party.
I also want a fully independent, thorough and fair, independent investigation of the events leading up to and including the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers, the financing, the physics, and the financing of those events; including but not limited to the involvement of the ISI of Pakistan.
So there!!!
thanks for catching my error, funnydiva - just my sausage fingers at work. If you refresh, you’ll see the proper
tiltletitle.Jane, as an enviro my chief objection to TFB is the whole edifice couples massive subsidies that drive farmers and agriculture into destructive activites wholly decopled from externalities.
THe subsidized US corn that props up factory hog farms’ balance sheets while they foul groundwater with decades of pollutants is another odious example….
Photo voltaics, wind generators, and desalinization, might be something to consider. Like sooooon.
Kirk James Murphy, M.D. @ 14
They can microchip my *ss!!! Nevermind.
cahuenga @ 19
And yet, being on record is essential. Not so much a waste of time for me. Email is cheap.
But I take your point.
My gripe about ethanol is that it can never take the place of oil in terms of fulfilling our energy needs. It pollutes. It adds to global warming via atmospheric carbon loading in both its production and use. And it wastefully depletes soils better used for food production. Other than that, I think it’s fine.
Steve-AR @ 18
Moreover, when they talk about going to “clean hydrogen fuel” the suits downplay the fact that what they wanna do is extract the H2 from hydrocarbon base products — not water!
Slowly broiling to death would not be my first pick as to how to expire.
And seriously does anyone think that Feinstein is going to go against corporate interests ever, anywhere? She will probably not only back the big Agri-businesses but try to grant them immunity.
newtonusr @ 24
newt- that’s an interesting point, about “being on record”. On one hand, I suspect that the emails just get dumped, and thus are not on the record. But, on the other hand… I started thinking… hey, maybe someone could create a site where people posted the emails they had sent, so that the voices of DiFi’s constituents really would be “on the record” somewhere in the public domain.
BobbyG @ 15
show-off![/snark]
Bet you’re also used to evaluating any source cited for a given quantitation!
FunnyDiva
The planet is suffocating. And we are being forced to debate Iran.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 22
not if this report is correct.
Valley Girl @ 29
The sensation of banging your head against the wall, trying to get through to some of these feckless fools is grating. All the more reason to press them, IMO.
cahuenga @ 19
She was the main person I was thinking of when I read chapter 5 of The End of America…Surveil Ordinary Citizens.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 22
IIRC, there are six or seven desal plants in operation in CA, producing drinking-quality water at between $2,000 and $5,000 per acre foot. An acre foot roughly sustains two households a year. Beyond the capital expense and huge energy consumption of such facilities, the other major expense is transporting the water to where it needs to be.
selise @ 32
This report sort of tends to induce me to become upset.
Hugh @ 28
I might have to tear up the cushions in the living room and eat the remote when she is brought into my conciousness…Grrrrrrrrrrrr…or pee on the corner of the table or something….dagnabbit…she ticks me off…and…what is with the hair??? Let’s just start with that!!! She is so not in touch…try a groomer DiFi…we pups have to go in for flea/tick treatments periodically…Geeeeesh
BobbyG @ 35
and what happens to all the salt (or whatever it is properly called)?
Hugh @ 25
Ethanol is just another program of tax funded government welfare to Big-Agra. As far as replacing oil..the estimates that I have read go from -5% to plus 5%. With no savings in oil probably the reality.
Oh, dear! Another test for the leadership of the Democratic Party that now controls the Senate.
Somehow, I have a feeling Harry Reid longs for the days he was Minority Leader. These tests are hard work!
BobbyG @ 35
This is America. We can do it. What are the alternatives?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 31
That’s OK, OKK.
Darth Cheney is editing the NIE on Iran so we won’t have to have a debate! [/snark]
FunnyDiva
Funnydiva2002 @ 30
I have been adversarily audited right down to my rounding algorithms, LOL. Seriously.
Valley Girl @ 29
The last few replies from DiFi’s office made it quite clear that her agenda doesn’t include representing her constituents. But go ahead, knock yourself out.
Bottom line. We better do something.
newtonusr @ 33
But what did you think about the alternative site idea? So that the actual emails are on public record? That would have some problems, as whenever I’ve written emails to congresscritters, there’s no option to send a copy to me.
Thus, if someone says “this is the email I sent” it’s not necessarily verifiable. But, as I said above, I suspect that the emails get dumped, and are NOT public record, at least as I understand the phrase.
BobbyG @ 43
Let’s audit them.
selise @ 38
The brine is yet another externality.
LS @ 37
when do i stop laughing so hard i have tears in my eyes? does the affect wear off after awhile? my cats are wondering what’s happened to me.
TeddySanFran @ 40
The alternative was Daschle. 2 Peas, same pod.
LS @ 47
Which do you prefer? Biased or Banker’s?
;)
How many tons of air pollution gets dumped into the atmosphere everyday due to our wars in Afghanisatan and Iraq?
LS, we all have our own opinions about how our precious leisure time may best be used for political change.
The legislative agenda for the Contrarian party as set forth in your comment appears incompatible with that set forth in the lengthy post.
Thank you for raising the very valid points about microchipping and the ethanol scam.
I thank you also for taking the time to have read the post and offer my (very limiteded) regret that the result and the discussion it may engender does not meet with the Contrarian Party’s stated preferences.
cahuenga @ 44
Have you saved the email responses? (and perhaps the initial email?) I sure would like to see a typical DiFi email response.
Steve-AR @ 39
Ethanol from _corn_, you mean.
IIRC the Canadians are working on using switchgrass as a feedstock. Less resource intensive, not a food crop…
FunnyDiva
Hugh @ 28
LOL
BobbyG @ 51
Heh….as in “audit”….they have no problem listening to us now do they???? Let’s just listen in….she seems to think that is just ducky, now doesn’t she…don’t think that someone somewhere doesn’t know what crappola is going on…
You too Issa!!!
BobbyG @ 43
I’d expect nothing less when you’re chasing radiation!
Bet you’ve been an adversarial auditor your own se’f!
It’s what us science nerdz DO!
We could all be from the “show me” state!
FunnyD
BobbyG @ 48
Ding! Big time.
(PS - thanks fo rthe perfectly valid question on quantification of coal [equivalent] use in nitrogen fixation. I wish I could show thew calcs, and I’ve certainly asked as much of other commetners and posters here.
Good question.)
Kirk James Murphy, M.D. @ 53
LOL
Typical DiFi:
Thank you for writing to me regarding the nomination of Judge Leslie H. Southwick to be a United States Circuit Judge for the Fifth Circuit. I appreciate your taking the time to share your views, and I welcome the opportunity to respond.
The Constitution requires the President to nominate Federal judges by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. As a member of the Senate who also serves on the Judiciary Committee, I take my position with regard to reviewing judicial nominations very seriously.
When I review a nominee, I look to find candidates who have the necessary intellect, analytical skills, and legal experience. In addition, the candidate should be able to demonstrate a commitment to applying the law fairly and impartially. You can be assured that I perform my due diligence with regard to any nominee that comes before the Judiciary Committee.
As you may already know, on August 2, Judge Southwick was voted out of the Judiciary Committee favorably by a vote of 10-9. I voted in favor of sending his nomination to the full Senate. Please know that I carefully considered the concerns you raised. However, after thorough review of Judge Southwick’s record and after a lengthy meeting with him, I decided that he has the qualifications that I mentioned above to be a judge. While he is not the nominee that I would have chosen for this seat, I concluded that his views were not outside the judicial mainstream. He also has an exemplary record of service to our nation, including a one-year tour of combat duty in Iraq, which he volunteered for even though he was already over 50 years of age.
Once again, thank you for your letter. I hope you will continue to keep me informed on matters of importance to you. Best regards.
Sincerely yours,
Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
And another DiFi:
Thank you for writing to me about domestic electronic surveillance and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA). I appreciate you taking the time to write and I welcome the opportunity to respond.
On August 5, 2007, President Bush signed into law the Protect America Act of 2007 (Public Law 110-55), which I voted for in the Senate. This law makes interim changes to FISA designed to close gaps in the nation’s intelligence-gathering capability. It is a temporary change that expires in six months. However, it immediately addresses critical gaps in our intelligence-collection efforts, while preserving a role for FISA court review.
My support for these changes was mainly based on multiple conversations I had with Admiral Mike McConnell, the Director of National Intelligence, prior to the vote. He stressed to me that the intelligence community is deeply concerned that chatter among suspected terrorist networks is up, and that in this period of heightened vulnerability, we must move quickly to give the intelligence community the tools they need to protect America. While I agreed with his assessment, I asked for, and received, a written assurance that these temporary modifications would not infringe on the rights of Americans. I have included a copy of Admiral McConnell’s letter with this correspondence.
The Senate Intelligence and Judiciary Committees, on which I serve, have begun discussing and drafting legislation to replace the law enacted in August. I will make every effort to ensure that new legislation will continue to protect the privacy rights of all Americans without restricting the intelligence community’s ability to protect the nation. This requires allowing for flexible, agile surveillance to gather foreign intelligence information from non-Americans overseas while preventing domestic warrantless spying.
I have been briefed on the operational details of the electronic surveillance program known publicly as the Terrorist Surveillance Program and investigated its legality. From the beginning, I have argued that the program could and should be conducted under FISA Court supervision and full congressional oversight. It is my hope that this will be the final result of legislation.
Again, thank you for writing. I hope you will continue to write on matters of importance to you. If you have additional comments or question, please feel free to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841. Best regards
Kirk perfect your brilliant.
But are you smatter than a Mexican?
Divide any Prime number by 3 the end result should be a repeating decimal of .333 the holy number or .666 the number of the beast given these constraits on Primes is it possible to predict another Prime Number?
If I am wrong on this step I’m wrong on everything this is a test of the group mind on norelated things!
This damm problem keeps me awake at night! Solve it and let me sleep! Although Jane might not like me commening less at night. Your choice can you or your readers do it?
Can the group mind function like a super computer?
Kirk, if the Age of Consumerism were to end, what would likely take its place?
You so rock Kirk!!!
DiFi and Pelosi wearing latex gloves and holding money
vg — ygm
Valley Girl @ 66
That is funnY!!!
How about this. Since America is the recognized world’s largest ingester of fossil fuels and biggest producer of pollution, we shut all non-esentials (yes that means WalMart, McDonalds, Taco Bell, factories, cars, trucks, etc.) down for just one day a week. Like in the old days. OMG. Pandemonium.
i wonder how much corn/wheat/cotton/soybeans/rice would cost w/o the subsidies.
cahuenga- thanks for the copies of the emails.
She is basically saying “thank you for your concern, and btw, f-off because I will do what I damned well please”.
Funnydiva2002 @ 55
The return on energy from switchgrass is quite low. Fertilizer use might be less for it but otherwise it has the same problems as ethanol from corn but would need substantially more acreage for the same output from corn.
LS @ 68
Is it just me or does DiFi look like someone wearing a bad latex mask of DiFi? Like she could reach up and pull off her face to reveal…oh, I don’t know…Lieberman?
TeddySanFran @ 67
omigod!
you should consider posting that.
Here are the options: Do something. Or don’t.
Shorter DiFi:
“Since you’ve decided to bother me, I know what I’m doing, so don’t you worry yourself about it. I voted for Southwick because he’s in the club. Please continue to leave me the fuck alone.”
Sincerely,
Di Fi.
Hugh @ 72
‘K, thanks, Hugh!
FunnyD
Steve-AR @ 39
I’m with you here, Steve-AR (and with your comment last week about the start of the sixth Great Extinction - the Holocene.
I still have hope that cellulosic “fuelstocks from crops that don’t require fertilizer/pesticides arable land may help…but I’m frightened about the efects on soil/land/species conservation and ecosystems.
Go algae! I suspect perhaps microbial production may be a big part of the answer.
Valley Girl @ 71
Exactly. She’s in till 2012, likely not running again and she’s going to generate a nice little nest-egg through her defense contractor husband in the mean time.
Harper’s had a great article on the oil/food link a few years back. Now we are also making plastic containers out of corn, biodegradable, but is that a good trade-off?
And there is also the issue of how much energy is used to move the food from farm to factory to table. . .
wow, hugh - just saw your answers. Yikes.
Valley Girl @ 71
That is, unless the intern pressed the “off-topic” button on the email-response system. Which is particularly irritating after the time taken to cool down, compose, re-write, and send.
Kirk James Murphy, M.D. @ 78
Or could we just go methane from, say, big manure piles?
FunnyD
Edited for clarity