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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/09/grasping-for-power-with-a-dash-of-desire-to-be/#comment-1087176</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;maybe in the addenda from the middle ages.. somewhere after the call for wars of aggression..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or maybe Mark Twain wrote it and “slipped it in”, like he did with the Shakespeare/Bacon history..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;err.. could it be that the spiritualists “spoke to the dead”?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;most probably, is that the preachers huck faithful people for love of profits. (sic)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe in the addenda from the middle ages.. somewhere after the call for wars of aggression..</p>
<p>or maybe Mark Twain wrote it and “slipped it in”, like he did with the Shakespeare/Bacon history..</p>
<p>err.. could it be that the spiritualists “spoke to the dead”?</p>
<p>most probably, is that the preachers huck faithful people for love of profits. (sic)</p>
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		<title>By: DrDick</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think they may want to consult Matthew 19:16-23 (Luke also has this) and James 2:1-13.  They are the antithesis of all they proclaim to uphold and like unto the Pharisees and hypocrites who Yeshua chastised.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they may want to consult Matthew 19:16-23 (Luke also has this) and James 2:1-13.  They are the antithesis of all they proclaim to uphold and like unto the Pharisees and hypocrites who Yeshua chastised.</p>
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		<title>By: nolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;very minor point:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[from the video credit, above. . .]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ms. menzel’s first name&lt;br /&gt;
begins with an “&lt;b&gt;i&lt;/b&gt;” not an “&lt;b&gt;e&lt;/b&gt;“:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;idina&lt;/em&gt;, for the record.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;p e a c e&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very minor point:</p>
<p>[from the video credit, above. . .]</p>
<p>ms. menzel’s first name<br />
begins with an “<b>i</b>” not an “<b>e</b>“:</p>
<p><em>idina</em>, for the record.</p>
<p>p e a c e</p>
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		<title>By: coyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>coyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;they should all be labeled for exactly what they are. white collar criminals. most learned how to game the system by watching their family members and close family friends who came before them. clearly, it’s working very well for them. the ultimate cons willing to sacrifice anyone or anything for more power and more wealth. yet somehow they enjoy a sort of celebrity status. people give them the benefit of the doubt when in fact they have never given us reason to give them that much power. not once have they ever solved or answered critical questions about current or past crisis. it’s always about moving on and looking forward because god forbid they would have to hold one of their own responsible for the crimes against this country. fuck em all&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1086909&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Things Come Undone @ 108&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Clinton, Biden, Dodd, Obama all were elsewhere when the Mckasey vote hit. Are we going to cross them off our lists for the primary unless they deliver results on ending the war or healthcare for everyone?&lt;br /&gt;
When do we start cracking a whip. Or should we marshal our strength and pick one target to make an example of?&lt;br /&gt;
I wonder which Presidential Candidate would be hurt the most if the Left stoped supporting them?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they should all be labeled for exactly what they are. white collar criminals. most learned how to game the system by watching their family members and close family friends who came before them. clearly, it’s working very well for them. the ultimate cons willing to sacrifice anyone or anything for more power and more wealth. yet somehow they enjoy a sort of celebrity status. people give them the benefit of the doubt when in fact they have never given us reason to give them that much power. not once have they ever solved or answered critical questions about current or past crisis. it’s always about moving on and looking forward because god forbid they would have to hold one of their own responsible for the crimes against this country. fuck em all<br />
<a href="#comment-1086909"><em>Things Come Undone @ 108</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Clinton, Biden, Dodd, Obama all were elsewhere when the Mckasey vote hit. Are we going to cross them off our lists for the primary unless they deliver results on ending the war or healthcare for everyone?<br />
When do we start cracking a whip. Or should we marshal our strength and pick one target to make an example of?<br />
I wonder which Presidential Candidate would be hurt the most if the Left stoped supporting them?</p>
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		<title>By: msmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1086919&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;peanutbutter @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1086815&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 24&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can an atheist or agnostic who practices the Golden Rule gain access to Heaven?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The question is meaningless.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Speaking as an atheist, why would we care about getting into a heaven we don’t think exists? We may “do unto others, etc.” but the Golden Rule per se has no meaning, nor does heaven. So yes, meaningless question. What’s the point?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1086919"><em>peanutbutter @ 118</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1086815"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 24</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Can an atheist or agnostic who practices the Golden Rule gain access to Heaven?</p>
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<p>The question is meaningless.</p>
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<p>Speaking as an atheist, why would we care about getting into a heaven we don’t think exists? We may “do unto others, etc.” but the Golden Rule per se has no meaning, nor does heaven. So yes, meaningless question. What’s the point?</p>
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		<title>By: P J Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>P J Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;things @ 138&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was part of a comment by Lizzy L at Making Light:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You know the story of Abraham and Isaac. God sent an angel to prevent the sacrifice. God said, “Do not do the least hurt to your son.” Some Talmudic scholars — and remember, the Jewish teachers have been studying that story for centuries longer than Christian scholars have — suggest in commentary that God’s command to Abraham to sacrifice his son was a test, not of Abraham’s faith, but of the maturity of Abraham’s love as a human being, and that God was actually disappointed when Abraham obeyed without questioning him. The Eternal, Blessed be He, would have been happier had Abraham refused to obey! It would have showed a maturity that would have delighted God had it been present.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What are the commandments about, but learning how to behave so that you don’t harm others?&lt;br /&gt;
Those of Moses were aimed at people who’d been in servitude for long enough that they’d forgotten how to handle responsibility; those of Jesus are aimed at hard-headed (and hard-hearted) people who have forgotten what it’s like being weak, poor, and sick, and at the mercy of the wealthy and powerful.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>things @ 138</p>
<p>It was part of a comment by Lizzy L at Making Light:</p>
<blockquote><p>You know the story of Abraham and Isaac. God sent an angel to prevent the sacrifice. God said, “Do not do the least hurt to your son.” Some Talmudic scholars — and remember, the Jewish teachers have been studying that story for centuries longer than Christian scholars have — suggest in commentary that God’s command to Abraham to sacrifice his son was a test, not of Abraham’s faith, but of the maturity of Abraham’s love as a human being, and that God was actually disappointed when Abraham obeyed without questioning him. The Eternal, Blessed be He, would have been happier had Abraham refused to obey! It would have showed a maturity that would have delighted God had it been present.</p>
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<p>What are the commandments about, but learning how to behave so that you don’t harm others?<br />
Those of Moses were aimed at people who’d been in servitude for long enough that they’d forgotten how to handle responsibility; those of Jesus are aimed at hard-headed (and hard-hearted) people who have forgotten what it’s like being weak, poor, and sick, and at the mercy of the wealthy and powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“If we could get an Ellen DeGeneres figure who is likable and popular to ‘come out’ as an evangelical, many more people would have positive impressions of the movement as a whole.” &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It never seems to occur to them that a large part of why Ellen is so likable and popular is because she’s NOT some whackjob Jesus freak.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“If we could get an Ellen DeGeneres figure who is likable and popular to ‘come out’ as an evangelical, many more people would have positive impressions of the movement as a whole.” </em></p>
<p>It never seems to occur to them that a large part of why Ellen is so likable and popular is because she’s NOT some whackjob Jesus freak.</p>
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		<title>By: lightly</title>
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		<dc:creator>lightly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Last time I checked, the gays weren’t telling me I can’t have birth control. I’m so tired to the whining from these scoundrels. They’ve spent twenty years teaching everybody to equate Christianity with hate. How darn mean of us to notice. Insufferable brats.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I checked, the gays weren’t telling me I can’t have birth control. I’m so tired to the whining from these scoundrels. They’ve spent twenty years teaching everybody to equate Christianity with hate. How darn mean of us to notice. Insufferable brats.</p>
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		<title>By: Things Come Undone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Things Come Undone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Karnak12@ 139  Nope you didn’t that was me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karnak12@ 139  Nope you didn’t that was me.</p>
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		<title>By: karnak12</title>
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		<dc:creator>karnak12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1086955&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Things Come Undone @ 137&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 I don’t think I said anything about a church&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1086955"><em>Things Come Undone @ 137</em></a><br />
 I don’t think I said anything about a church</p>
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