Jane!!!!!

Jane as well be well

Jane!

Free Creativity!

John Steinbeck is in that crowd somewhere perhaps.

Jane, surrounded by handsome and intelligent menfolk! Such is her lot in life.

will son picket?

“From the terrible winepress of oppression will come terrible wrath but also the deliverance of workers through their cooperation.”

Ellen DeGeneres: Will shun picket. (apologies and h/t punaise)

TeddySanFran @ 9

Ellen DeGeneres: Will shun picket. (apologies and h/t punaise)

Is she on the fence about picketing?

Eureka Springs @ 10

TeddySanFran @ 9

Ellen DeGeneres: Will shun picket. (apologies and h/t punaise)

Is she on the fence about picketing?

that’s indi-fence-able.

It is not the shareholders on Wall Street who are the backbone and substance of this country. It is the workers who are this nation’s locomotive. It is America’s working women and men who are the very heart, mind and soul of this country. Labor, you have enormous power. Rise up!

Everyone who writes in every form should be supporting the WGA. They’re marching for all of us who’ve ever had a book, or a magazine article, or a word in print…and are looking to the future and new media.

Go, WGA!

Eureka Springs @ 10

TeddySanFran @ 9

Ellen DeGeneres: Will shun picket. (apologies and h/t punaise)

Is she on the fence about picketing?

Ellen Tapes During Strike

Ellen DeGeneres continued to press ahead with her show Friday as the Writers Guild strike continued, sending her “love” to the picketing scribes.

DeGeneres opened her show sans monologue, instead giving a nod to her writers and explaining the situation to her audience.

“It’s sweeps,” DeGeneres said, “Which is a very important time in television because that’s when you do your best shows, your funniest material. You pull it out and do everything you can because you want everybody watching. And now we’re in the middle of a strike – a writer’s strike.”

She conceded, “This is a strange show for me to do … it’s a weird show,” and tried to fill the empty time with extra minutes of her signature dancing.

Yay Jane!!!

.

Hi Prairie!

Too bad that those in the service industry cannot strike. Gotta keep those mints on our pillows.

I shudder at the thought of an extended union strike by Hollywood writers. If this went on for weeks or months who knows the consequences. People may start reading books, or even writing books. People might start exercising and talking to their neighbors and even take an interest in their community.

No one has done more for the oppressed and workers and unions than Hollywood writers and so we should support them. Also, the television shows always raise important issues and always portray the other side of issues. Shows such as “24″ dramatically educate us about the Bad Guy Terrorists in a way that no one else can do.

I am grateful to Hollywood for the great respect they have for their viewers. They respect us almost as much as their corporate sponsors do.

Nonsense! America’s workers can be replaced! Why, just look at tonight’s HILARIOUS “Tonight Show” monologue, written by offshore labor!

JAY: Hey Kevin-sahb, do you know why the Democrats are confident of winning the White House?

[PAUSE FOR RESPONSE]

JAY: Because Ganesha is both the Lord of Success… and the Destroyer of Pride!

[PAUSE FOR LAUGHTER]

Hi-LARIOUS! So you WGA guys, you keep walkin’ that picket line, because you’re as easily replaced as Lakshmi when she entered the Milky Ocean!

TeddySanFran @ 6

Jane, surrounded by handsome and intelligent menfolk! Such is her lot in life.

What happened to her Annie Lenox do? ;-)

Expect more strikes a decling dollar makes everyboy’s paycheck a little smaller. Unlike the 70’s when the standard of living first started to decline we don’t have the savings we had then to fall back on.
We have already maxed out the credit cards. We have more expensive healthcare.
But we can start placing tariffs on foreign goods. We can tax the rich more. We can and will hold the Bushies and not immigrant scapegoats responsible.

There was a time that the Democratic could lay claim to being a friend of labor. Is that still the case?

Things Come Undone @ 21

Expect more strikes a decling dollar makes everyboy’s paycheck a little smaller. Unlike the 70’s when the standard of living first started to decline we don’t have the savings we had then to fall back on.
We have already maxed out the credit cards. We have more expensive healthcare.
But we can start placing tariffs on foreign goods. We can tax the rich more. We can and will hold the Bushies and not immigrant scapegoats responsible.

Who is we? Hell, in the 70’s I couldn’t have cared less/ Speed on brother, hell’s only half full!

Well, it’s now Official! The Holiday Season is upon us…

On his Fox News show last night, Bill O’Reilly kicked off his annual conniption fit over a perceived “War on Christmas.” O’Reilly’s target last night was a decision by the Fort Collins, Colorado City Council to celebrate the holiday season with “an educational museum display, plain wreaths and garlands on city property, and trees with white lights” rather than traditional Christmas decorations such as trees with “colored lights.”

In the segment, O’Reilly called the decision by the city’s Holiday Display Task Force — which he incorrectly called the holiday diversity task force — “insane” and “an assault to diminish Christmas for secular progressive reasons.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…../#comments

Oklahoma kiddo @ 8

“From the terrible winepress of oppression will come terrible wrath but also the deliverance of workers through their cooperation.”

Are those the Grapes of Wrath?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 22

There was a time that the Democratic could lay claim to being a friend of labor. Is that still the case?

not since before clinton (at least)

OT..WTF is this about..Are Dem campaigns doing this or is it another winger attack on the Dem Party?

(snip)
But it’s not just Republicans who are pushing the story. Will Folks, a well-known blogger in South Carolina, reported yesterday that he’d “heard from sources at rival Democratic presidential campaigns who claim that they ‘know it to be true’ that Hill and Huma are romantically-involved.” I called Folks, and he said that two different Democratic campaigns had told him about the alleged affair, but neither had “presented anything remotely resembling proof.”

Harper’s

The coming year is going to be very ugly.

CTuttle @ 24

Well, it’s now Official! The Holiday Season is upon us…

On his Fox News show last night, Bill O’Reilly kicked off his annual conniption fit over a perceived “War on Christmas.” O’Reilly’s target last night was a decision by the Fort Collins, Colorado City Council to celebrate the holiday season with “an educational museum display, plain wreaths and garlands on city property, and trees with white lights” rather than traditional Christmas decorations such as trees with “colored lights.”

In the segment, O’Reilly called the decision by the city’s Holiday Display Task Force — which he incorrectly called the holiday diversity task force — “insane” and “an assault to diminish Christmas for secular progressive reasons.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…../#comments

Good, I will have nothing to do with Xmas this year.

Speed on brother, hell’s only half full!

I’m pedaling as fast as I can !

Oklahoma kiddo @ 22

There was a time that the Democratic could lay claim to being a friend of labor. Is that still the case?

Of course! So long as labor behaves as management wishes them to then Dems are foursquare friends of labor!

(Gosh, I *am* cynical.)

.

Bustednuckles @ 29

Speed on brother, hell’s only half full!

I’m pedaling as fast as I can !

I hope you’re back-pedaling!

Congress persons get about $165,000 per year for a three to four day work week. They receive wonderful health care and other benefits too. Who in Congress has spoken out in support of this strike?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 32

Congress persons get about $165,000 per year for a three to four day work week. They receive wonderful health care and other benefits too. Who in Congress has spoken out in support of this strike?

What?! and ruffle network feathers?!

Wouldn’t it be nice to see at least one of the Democratic presidential front runners on the picket line.

Maybe there will be a revolution since there’s no TV.

Does some one have a link to buy T shirts and other items to support this? I don’t watch TV, so it doesn’t do any good to stop.

jo6pac

But Jane, appearing on the street with the hoi polloi and the common rabble is so… so… declassé! How unRepublican of you!

(Excuse me, my nose is out of joint!)

(/snark)

Bob in HI

plain wreaths and garlands on city property, and trees with white lights

What’s wrong with these decorations?
Can someone get BillO some human-life pills?
(White lights actually make excellent decorations.)

If he wants an old-fashioned Christmas, maybe he should do it the Puritan way: work. Or, if it’s Sunday, four hours of church in the morning, a cold lunch, then more prayers and Bible reading in the afternoon.

punaise @ 7

will son picket?

Anyone with rea son will!

Bob in HI

AP – Rank-and-file Democrats expressed dismay on Friday over their party’s latest anti-war strategy, with some members reluctant to vote around Veterans Day to bring troops home.

I have vague memories of the violent and protracted Teamsters strike in the 1970s, and knew at least one person who was an air traffic controller fired by Reagan.

But the strike that drove home for me how important labor unions are was the Hormel Strike in 1985. The national union wouldn’t support the local union because the locals were pushing for what the national union said was too good of a deal. It was a bitter strike, with the governor calling out the National Guard to protect the scabs. I remember sitting in a college classroom when the professor started talking about this and, sadly, there were students who didn’t know what a scab was.

I’m enthralled by the WGA strike, but it’s not because of the Hollywood glitz. I think it’s because it’s a such an obvious and clear-cut fight between greedy corporations and writers wanting a fair shake. Maybe it’s easier to grasp than the issues of workplace safety in meat packing plants. But whatever it is, it’s awesome to see so much support across the board for the WGA strike.

Jacques @ 25

Oklahoma kiddo @ 8

“From the terrible winepress of oppression will come terrible wrath but also the deliverance of workers through their cooperation.”

Are those the Grapes of Wrath?

He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored?

.

Utter Disgust, doesn’t begin to describe it…

Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Thursday that she favors legal immunity for telecommunications companies that allegedly shared millions of customers’ telephone and e-mail messages and records with the government, a position that could lead to the dismissal of numerous lawsuits pending in San Francisco.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…..3T97BN.DTL

More Albatross, less Falafel.

P J Evans @ 37

plain wreaths and garlands on city property, and trees with white lights

What’s wrong with these decorations?
Can someone get BillO some human-life pills?
(White lights actually make excellent decorations.)

If he wants an old-fashioned Christmas, maybe he should do it the Puritan way: work. Or, if it’s Sunday, four hours of church in the morning, a cold lunch, then more prayers and Bible reading in the afternoon.

i dunno maybe a xmas strike would be good. The talk of a general strike could be pushed toward the consumer oriented holiday. Who wants toxic toys anyways. He wants a culture war take it him.

Gawd this is shaping up as having the potential for being a helluva weekend. Lahoma is really steamed.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 39

AP – Rank-and-file Democrats expressed dismay on Friday over their party’s latest anti-war strategy, with some members reluctant to vote around Veterans Day to bring troops home.

Why does our Democratic leadership always have to search for a reason to do the wrong thing, when so many reasons to do the right thing are so near at hand?

Bob in HI

Mc Cain’s mama just dissed mormom’s on tweety and John is backpeddlin like mad!

bobschacht @ 46

Oklahoma kiddo @ 39

AP – Rank-and-file Democrats expressed dismay on Friday over their party’s latest anti-war strategy, with some members reluctant to vote around Veterans Day to bring troops home.

Why does our Democratic leadership always have to search for a reason to do the wrong thing, when so many reasons to do the right thing are so near at hand?

Bob in HI

Very good question.

How come advertisers never go on strike?

raven @ 47

Mc Cain’s mama just dissed mormom’s on tweety and John is backpeddlin like mad!

Wow, what did she say?

Elliott @ 49

How come advertisers never go on strike?

Another great question.

Elliott @ 49

How come advertisers never go on strike?

It would be unpatriotic. Don’t you remember the classic “Go out and shop, or the terrorists will win” line from the White House?

bobschacht @ 36

But Jane, appearing on the street with the hoi polloi and the common rabble is so… so… declassé! How unRepublican of you!

(Excuse me, my nose is out of joint!)

(/snark)

Bob in HI

U go, Jane! from this proud daughter of a lifelong IBEW member. I still remember dad being on the negotiating committee and his stories about the hard-nosed but good faith bargaining with management. But that was long before Reaganomics/neoconomania.

[and back atcha, Newtonuser @ 16]

JPL @ 50

raven @ 47

Mc Cain’s mama just dissed mormom’s on tweety and John is backpeddlin like mad!

Wow, what did she say?

It was sort of disjointed and unfair I suppose. She was talking about how unqualified the other candidates are and she blurted out something about Mormons and the Olympics. Tweety is such an idiot, he kept saying, “I know you are just standing up for your husband”. Uh, that would be Admiral McCain, he’s been dead for years!

I advocate unionizing all service industry workers. Do you hear that former and present board members of WalMart and the like?

frank33@18

…and you do what important, righteous thing for a living?

Really, I don’t care.

I’d say go F yourself, but that wouldn’t be nice.

neokneme @ 43

More Albatross, less Falafel.

Gannet on a stick!

.

In DC, it’s after five on a Friday.

What news story got dumped at the curb with the rest of the trash?

Peterr @ 52

Elliott @ 49

How come advertisers never go on strike?

It would be unpatriotic. Don’t you remember the classic “Go out and shop, or the terrorists will win” line from the White House?

oh right!
*smacks forehead*

I have been very unpatriotic of late
*hangs head in shame*

Peterr @ 58

In DC, it’s after five on a Friday.

What news story got dumped at the curb with the rest of the trash?

How bout this, they started reading the names on the Wall this afternoon.

I recommend the new DVD Strike about the Polish Solidarity movement in 1980 and the history of the union. Not exactly accurate in its sequence of events, but very compelling about individual and collective courage.

itwasntme @ 56

frank33@18

…and you do what important, righteous thing for a living?

Uhm, itwanstme, I think Frank’s comment was supposed to be sarcasm….

Brisingamen @ 62

itwasntme @ 56

frank33@18

…and you do what important, righteous thing for a living?

Uhm, itwanstme, I think Frank’s comment was supposed to be sarcasm….

That was my impression, too…

Those with labor issues. Perhaps the DLC can help you.

DJI down four percent this week

raven @ 60

Peterr @ 58

In DC, it’s after five on a Friday.

What news story got dumped at the curb with the rest of the trash?

How bout this, they started reading the names on the Wall this afternoon.

That’s going to take a while to finish. There’s a whole lot of names there — far too many, in fact.

*raising a glass*

To the fallen

*ding*

TeddySanFran @ 65

DJI down four percent this week

So what’s the answer? Go shopping perhaps.

TeddySanFran @ 65

DJI down four percent this week

No comment on my SFGate Link at 42, Teddy?

Peterr @ 66

raven @ 60

How bout this, they started reading the names on the Wall this afternoon.

That’s going to take a while to finish. There’s a whole lot of names there — far too many, in fact.

*raising a glass*

To the fallen

*ding*

To the fallen

spork_incident @ 57

neokneme @ 43

More Albatross, less Falafel.

Gannet on a stick!

.

Boobie tube!

Peterr @ 66

raven @ 60

How bout this, they started reading the names on the Wall this afternoon.

That’s going to take a while to finish. There’s a whole lot of names there — far too many, in fact.

*raising a glass*

To the fallen

*ding*

Prost!
*clink*

CTuttle @ 68

TeddySanFran @ 65

DJI down four percent this week

No comment on my SFGate Link at 42, Teddy?

Trying to screen out the Feinstein news lately — it’s all bad.

The economy is fine. Just ask the DLC and George W. Bush.

“Let’s drink to the men who got caught by the chill –
Of the patriotic fever and the cold steel that kills.”

CTuttle @ 42

Utter Disgust, doesn’t begin to describe it…

Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Thursday that she favors legal immunity for telecommunications companies that allegedly shared millions of customers’ telephone and e-mail messages and records with the government, a position that could lead to the dismissal of numerous lawsuits pending in San Francisco.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…..3T97BN.DTL

I posted that on the last thread..no surprise but that still doesn’t stop the sick feeling in the stomach.

TeddySanFran @ 72

CTuttle @ 68

No comment on my SFGate Link at 42, Teddy?

Trying to screen out the Feinstein news lately — it’s all bad.

Gruesome, even…! 8-(

Additional results from the recent ABC News/Washington Post national survey (story, results) of 1,131 adults (conducted 10/29 through 11/1) finds:

55% of Americans think homosexual couples should “be allowed to form legally recognized civil union, giving them the legal rights of married couples in areas such as health insurance, inheritence and pension coverage;” 42% think they should not.
55% think abortion should be legal in all or most cases; 43% say it should be illegal in all or most cases.
51% would support “a program giving ILLEGAL immigrants now living in the United States the right to live here LEGALLY if they pay a fine and meet other requirements;” 44% oppose.
– Eric Dienstfrey

Oklahoma kiddo @ 12

It is not the shareholders on Wall Street who are the backbone and substance of this country. It is the workers who are this nation’s locomotive. It is America’s working women and men who are the very heart, mind and soul of this country. Labor, you have enormous power. Rise up!

Very well said OKiddo. We truly are the grease for the wheel, the nuts and bolts, although I am maybe more nut than bolt. Good on ya OK.

TeddySanFran @ 72

Trying to screen out the Feinstein news lately — it’s all bad.

Duck Fifi

Steve-AR @ 75

CTuttle @ 42

Utter Disgust, doesn’t begin to describe it…

Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Thursday that she favors legal immunity for telecommunications companies that allegedly shared millions of customers’ telephone and e-mail messages and records with the government, a position that could lead to the dismissal of numerous lawsuits pending in San Francisco.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…..3T97BN.DTL

I posted that on the last thread..no surprise but that still doesn’t stop the sick feeling in the stomach.

Sorry, I missed it… *g*

puppethead @ 40

I have vague memories of the violent and protracted Teamsters strike in the 1970s, and knew at least one person who was an air traffic controller fired by Reagan.

But the strike that drove home for me how important labor unions are was the Hormel Strike in 1985. The national union wouldn’t support the local union because the locals were pushing for what the national union said was too good of a deal. It was a bitter strike, with the governor calling out the National Guard to protect the scabs. I remember sitting in a college classroom when the professor started talking about this and, sadly, there were students who didn’t know what a scab was.

I’m enthralled by the WGA strike, but it’s not because of the Hollywood glitz. I think it’s because it’s a such an obvious and clear-cut fight between greedy corporations and writers wanting a fair shake. Maybe it’s easier to grasp than the issues of workplace safety in meat packing plants. But whatever it is, it’s awesome to see so much support across the board for the WGA strike.

Does anyone recall the air controllers’ strike? It was public friendly, with us waving at the picketers and they waving back…but went nowhere with Reagan ordering them back to work. At least with the writers, corporations are the opposition and bottom line numbers are the last word.

Sorry, everybody…strike induced sensitive skin here. I’ve read so many comments like this that are completely serious on other sites.

Sorry Frank33

Feinstein, Pelosi, Boxer, Lieberman, Hoyer, Harold Ford Jr., Rahm, HRC and others. What a team.

Peterr @ 66

raven @ 60

How bout this, they started reading the names on the Wall this afternoon.

That’s going to take a while to finish. There’s a whole lot of names there — far too many, in fact.

*raising a glass*

To the fallen

*ding*

To the fallen, whether they are named on the Wall, or still walking among us…

dakine01 @ 84

Peterr @ 66

That’s going to take a while to finish. There’s a whole lot of names there — far too many, in fact.

*raising a glass*

To the fallen

*ding*

To the fallen, whether they are named on the Wall, or still walking among us…

he adds poignantly

rwcole @ 77

Additional results from the recent ABC News/Washington Post national survey (story, results) of 1,131 adults (conducted 10/29 through 11/1) finds:

55% of Americans think homosexual couples should “be allowed to form legally recognized civil union, giving them the legal rights of married couples in areas such as health insurance, inheritence and pension coverage;” 42% think they should not.
55% think abortion should be legal in all or most cases; 43% say it should be illegal in all or most cases.
51% would support “a program giving ILLEGAL immigrants now living in the United States the right to live here LEGALLY if they pay a fine and meet other requirements;” 44% oppose.
– Eric Dienstfrey

Everyone talks about the 29%ers. Most polls are consistent with the above results. 42-47% with “lizard brain” response to social issues. The fate of the country depends on the swing of ~10% of the voters…we are going to have to fight like hell to get every Dems seat possible.

JPL @ 50

raven @ 47

Mc Cain’s mama just dissed mormom’s on tweety and John is backpeddlin like mad!

Wow, what did she say?

What the hell’s she on TV for in the first place?

She running for something? Geez. I really hate our news critters sometimes.

I mean, you’d think they’d tell us all about Britney’s child custody dramas.

Oh. Right.

dakine01 @ 84

Peterr @ 66

That’s going to take a while to finish. There’s a whole lot of names there — far too many, in fact.

*raising a glass*

To the fallen

*ding*

To the fallen, whether they are named on the Wall, or still walking among us…

Or homeless, what a national travesty… 8-(

Marilyn In Texas @ 81

Does anyone recall the air controllers’ strike? It was public friendly, with us waving at the picketers and they waving back…but went nowhere with Reagan ordering them back to work. At least with the writers, corporations are the opposition and bottom line numbers are the last word.

What I most vividly remember is how he disappeared the entire strike with one stroke of the pen. Even as a child that struck me as eerie and creepy.

Studs Terkel tells a story about waiting for a bus with somebody who was in passing complaining about unions. So he asked him how many hours a week he worked, the guy said forty why?
Studs replied that it was because of unions that he only had to work those forty hours and went on to list a few more facts about the labor movement in this country, and the benefits this guy had because of it.
Boy young people surely need a better education on this history so they can be advocates in the face of the full court press to destroy us.

CTuttle @ 80

Steve-AR @ 75

I posted that on the last thread..no surprise but that still doesn’t stop the sick feeling in the stomach.

Sorry, I missed it… *g*

The more this kind of shit is brought to people’s attention; the better.

If the Democrats went on strike, would we notice a difference?

And here’s a little something appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G1FvlPakkU

House votes to protect millions from tax hike
More than 23 million Americans would’ve been hit with the alternative minimum tax, but lawmakers approve a plan to shift the burden to wealthy investment fund managers. The measure moves to the Senate
By Jonathan Peterson and Richard Simon, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
11:46 AM PST, November 9, 2007

WASHINGTON — Capping a spirited debate, House members voted today to shield more than 23 million Americans from a tax hike this year under the alternative minimum tax — and hit up wealthy managers of investment firms such as private equity and hedge funds to pay for it.

The 216-193 vote, which closely followed party lines, escalated an emerging battle political over tax priorities, after years of Republican anti-tax fervor. While members of both parties overwhelmingly wish to defuse the alternative minimum tax, they have a sharp dispute on how to do it, and the future of the tax hike planned for rich investors is doubtful.

Maybe we might get something out of this one, although I expect Georgy to veto it, ’cause it’ll hurt his good buddies in bidness.

Maddy @ 90

Studs Terkel tells a story about waiting for a bus with somebody who was in passing complaining about unions. So he asked him how many hours a week he worked, the guy said forty why?
Studs replied that it was because of unions that he only had to work those forty hours and went on to list a few more facts about the labor movement in this country, and the benefits this guy had because of it.
Boy young people surely need a better education on this history so they can be advocates in the face of the full court press to destroy us.

Studs Terkel has always been viewed as a hero by me.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 92

If the Democrats went on strike, would we notice a difference?

Ouch! That was cold… 8-)

I find it odd that these days we purchase most of our gasoline from food stores.

Marilyn In Texas @ 81

puppethead @ 40

I have vague memories of the violent and protracted Teamsters strike in the 1970s, and knew at least one person who was an air traffic controller fired by Reagan.

But the strike that drove home for me how important labor unions are was the Hormel Strike in 1985. The national union wouldn’t support the local union because the locals were pushing for what the national union said was too good of a deal. It was a bitter strike, with the governor calling out the National Guard to protect the scabs. I remember sitting in a college classroom when the professor started talking about this and, sadly, there were students who didn’t know what a scab was.

I’m enthralled by the WGA strike, but it’s not because of the Hollywood glitz. I think it’s because it’s a such an obvious and clear-cut fight between greedy corporations and writers wanting a fair shake. Maybe it’s easier to grasp than the issues of workplace safety in meat packing plants. But whatever it is, it’s awesome to see so much support across the board for the WGA strike.

Does anyone recall the air controllers’ strike? It was public friendly, with us waving at the picketers and they waving back…but went nowhere with Reagan ordering them back to work. At least with the writers, corporations are the opposition and bottom line numbers are the last word.

I remember the air controller’s strike well. For me, that was the moment when it became fashionable to be anti-union. In Raygun’s great chain of being, union members ranked down near the bottom with “welfare queens”. Ever since then, its been open season on union members.

Bob in HI

Oklahoma kiddo @ 92

If the Democrats went on strike, would we notice a difference?

well, this week mukasey wouldn’t have been confirmed.

P J Evans @ 94

House votes to protect millions from tax hike
More than 23 million Americans would’ve been hit with the alternative minimum tax, but lawmakers approve a plan to shift the burden to wealthy investment fund managers. The measure moves to the Senate
By Jonathan Peterson and Richard Simon, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
11:46 AM PST, November 9, 2007

WASHINGTON — Capping a spirited debate, House members voted today to shield more than 23 million Americans from a tax hike this year under the alternative minimum tax — and hit up wealthy managers of investment firms such as private equity and hedge funds to pay for it.

The 216-193 vote, which closely followed party lines, escalated an emerging battle political over tax priorities, after years of Republican anti-tax fervor. While members of both parties overwhelmingly wish to defuse the alternative minimum tax, they have a sharp dispute on how to do it, and the future of the tax hike planned for rich investors is doubtful.

Maybe we might get something out of this one, although I expect Georgy to veto it, ’cause it’ll hurt his good buddies in bidness.

Yep, Georgie vowed to veto it… He’s gotta take care of his Have-More constituency…

CTuttle @ 96

Oklahoma kiddo @ 92

If the Democrats went on strike, would we notice a difference?

Ouch! That was cold… 8-)

Oh… I’m just trying to warm to the topic.

Scruffy crowd, there. I mean, not everybody. Solidarnosc. I hope this doesn’t become another big profile loss for Labor.

P J Evans @ 94

House votes to protect millions from tax hike
More than 23 million Americans would’ve been hit with the alternative minimum tax, but lawmakers approve a plan to shift the burden to wealthy investment fund managers. The measure moves to the Senate
By Jonathan Peterson and Richard Simon, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
11:46 AM PST, November 9, 2007

WASHINGTON — Capping a spirited debate, House members voted today to shield more than 23 million Americans from a tax hike this year under the alternative minimum tax — and hit up wealthy managers of investment firms such as private equity and hedge funds to pay for it.

The 216-193 vote, which closely followed party lines, escalated an emerging battle political over tax priorities, after years of Republican anti-tax fervor. While members of both parties overwhelmingly wish to defuse the alternative minimum tax, they have a sharp dispute on how to do it, and the future of the tax hike planned for rich investors is doubtful.

Maybe we might get something out of this one, although I expect Georgy to veto it, ’cause it’ll hurt his good buddies in bidness.

Harry Reid has already said the hedge-fund-manager income tax won’t be raised in the Senate this year. Probably not next year, either. Hedgers are pouring money into Schumer’s campaign fund, and his DSCC as well.

Brisingamen @ 93

And here’s a little something appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G1FvlPakkU

Thanks for that. I’ve been at Arlington when they changed the guard and even without music, it sends chills to be in the midlst of all that history.

Today we were guests at our granddaughter’s elementary school for an assembly honoring veterans – her grandfather served in Korea. A high school band played patriotic music, the school choir sang – one song in particular moved me. It’s title is “Welcome Home”. I only wish we could sing welcome home to American servicepeople in Irag …

JPL says:
November 9th, 2007 at 2:54 pm

Maddy @ 90

Yes, a wonderful kind man

selise @ 99

Oklahoma kiddo @ 92

If the Democrats went on strike, would we notice a difference?

well, this week mukasey wouldn’t have been confirmed.

I think I see what you mean. Very good.

Donita upstairs!
The Spin I’m In

Maddy @ 90

Studs Terkel tells a story about waiting for a bus with somebody who was in passing complaining about unions. So he asked him how many hours a week he worked, the guy said forty why?
Studs replied that it was because of unions that he only had to work those forty hours and went on to list a few more facts about the labor movement in this country, and the benefits this guy had because of it.
Boy young people surely need a better education on this history so they can be advocates in the face of the full court press to destroy us.

This is the truth. My dad taught me young and never let me forget. His idol, HHH once said that the teaching of the history of the American labor movement should be required in the public schools. He was right. Too bad, it’s not. But dad used to go berserk anytime he’d hear somebody talking about how their employer “gives’ them health insurance or “gives” them this fringe benefit or that.

selise @ 99

Oklahoma kiddo @ 92

If the Democrats went on strike, would we notice a difference?

well, this week mukasey wouldn’t have been confirmed.

IMHO, I think Shrub would have interim appointed him anyways, even if the Senate(Reid) had honored Dodd’s hold, or, was filibustered…

labor unions: the folks who brought you the weekend.

Too bad Johnny didn’t hold this bit about Guiliani until the Monday news cycle.

It pains me to see these boys go at eachother so…

CTuttle @ 109

selise @ 99

well, this week mukasey wouldn’t have been confirmed.

IMHO, I think Shrub would have interim appointed him anyways, even if the Senate(Reid) had honored Dodd’s hold, or, was filibustered…

dodd didn’t place a hold on mukasey’s nomination (he said he would on the fisa bill).

and yes, i suppose you could call a strike a recess – so bush could appoint mukasey w/o the dems approval.

and who would that be worse?

correction:
and who how would that be worse?

kemo @ 111

Too bad Johnny didn’t hold this bit about Guiliani until the Monday news cycle.

It pains me to see these boys go at eachother so…

From your link, the “I dunno” candidate speaks:

Fred Thompson said he didn’t know enough about Kerik to comment.

“I heard about it awhile ago; it’s been in the news, obviously, for a long time, but I don’t know anything about the facts of that case, and I really can’t comment on it,” Thompson told reporters at a Washington news conference.

TeddySanFran @ 65

DJI down four percent this week

Has Cramer gone off the rails yet again?

Ben Bernanke has NO IDEA!

-GSD

selise @ 113

correction:
and who how would that be worse?

This is their feeble attempt to explain their twisted logic…

“Democrats on Friday argued that votes on a procedural motion, like cutting off a filibuster, should not be equated with a vote on an underlying nomination or bill. A Democratic leadership aide said there likely would have been enough support to cut off a filibuster, making it frivolous to schedule a time-consuming procedural vote to end debate. The aide also said that ‘filibustering a Cabinet nominee is a bad precedent,‘ given that there is a possibility a Democrat may occupy the White House in 2009.

Similarly, Sen. Byron Dorgan of North Dakota, who chairs the Democratic Policy Committee, said Friday it would have been an ‘extraordinary’ move for Congress to filibuster a presidential Cabinet nominee.”

http://thehill.com/leading-the…..11-09.html

Reid Allowed Vote On Mukasey In Exchange For Military Funding Bill
By Greg Sargent – November 9, 2007, 6:00PM

Here’s some more on what exactly happened in the negotiations that led up to the rushed confirmation of Michael Mukasey yesterday.

According to sources inside and outside the Democratic leadership, Harry Reid allowed a vote on Mukasey because in exchange the Republican leadership agreed to allow a vote on the big $459 billion Defense Appropriations Bill — something Reid had wanted to complete before the end of this week. In fact, the defense bill did come up for a vote late last night and was passed after the Mukasey vote.

Watch the defense appropriations bill go bad. Harry the weak Reid is an extremely slow learner.

Where the h*ll are the candidates’ statements on this mess? Shouldn’t they have started screaming last night?

GSD @ 115

Ben Bernanke has NO IDEA!

-GSD

U.S. Three-Month Bill Yields Tumble as Subprime Concern Rises

“The financial markets are worried about further possible large writeoffs related to subprime defaults and the fear that excessive losses could lead to a very dramatic seizing up in credit,” said Joseph LaVorgna, managing director and chief U.S. economist in New York at primary dealer Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. “The bond market in particular, especially Treasury bills, seem to be reflecting that fear.”

The Fed’s are at… No Balls, Two Strikes.

Investors Shred Bernanke’s Outlook, Bet on Rate Cut

Nov. 9 (Bloomberg) — Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke failed to convince investors that there’s no need for further interest-rate cuts soon.

My cousin in on the picket line in LA.

My wife was fired for starting a teacher union in 85 at American University, she was hired with back pay after they won.

We proudly wear the union label.

Tweety asks McCain’s mom why her HUSBAND should be elected prez. Mom draws a blank- Tweety never gets it and makes the same mistake again- again without realizing what he said.. Kinda funny. The old bird looks mortified- and Tweety thinks SHE’S senile.

Mom McCain does a little mini rant on Mormons which McCain has to cover up with bullshit- funny as hell!!!

McCain says that he has relatives who lived to be 98–so he’s not too old to be prez—this is fuckin desperate!!!

CTuttle @ 117

selise @ 113

correction:
and who how would that be worse?

This is their feeble attempt to explain their twisted logic…

“Democrats on Friday argued that votes on a procedural motion, like cutting off a filibuster, should not be equated with a vote on an underlying nomination or bill. A Democratic leadership aide said there likely would have been enough support to cut off a filibuster, making it frivolous to schedule a time-consuming procedural vote to end debate. The aide also said that ‘filibustering a Cabinet nominee is a bad precedent,‘ given that there is a possibility a Democrat may occupy the White House in 2009.

Similarly, Sen. Byron Dorgan of North Dakota, who chairs the Democratic Policy Committee, said Friday it would have been an ‘extraordinary’ move for Congress to filibuster a presidential Cabinet nominee.”

http://thehill.com/leading-the…..11-09.html

my bold.

hence the kabuki… the goal was to prevent us from knowing which senators – who voted “no” or did not vote – really wanted to see mukasey’s nomination succeed.

I pass FOX on my way to and from work, and every day since the strike began there have been lots of people picketing on Pico, just outside the gate. Today, though, not a soul. Does anyone know what’s up?

This one is right on target…

Five Things You Need to Know: Carina CD-Oh-No; What Is a CDO?; Down In the Tranches; Dominoes; Capitulation vs. Kickoff

* It’s an important story.
* Carina CDO Ltd., the CDO in question, is the first CDO to begin unwinding.
* According to S&P, the ratings on the most senior class of Carina CDO Ltd. were lowered to BB, two levels below investment grade, from AAA, while another AAA class was slashed 18 steps to CCC-.
* For all intents and purposes that means it is practically bankrupt.
* “The chance of material losses to noteholders is high, New York-based S&P said,” according to Bloomberg.

Not that different from… Eta Carinae

It may be more than just a coincidence that the names are so similar…

OOh Jane! Lookin good!

love the outfit Jane, especially the ‘Picket Line Green’ button the middle sweater!

Jane! I didn’t know you were in town. Call me!

Everyone looks so good. Jane and Howie, but who are the others?

rwcole @ 123

McCain says that he has relatives who lived to be 98–so he’s not too old to be prez—this is fuckin desperate!!!

So he hauls his senile ranting Mom out and this proves that he is capable????

Well, at least HE realized that she had crossed the line…but he’s had more than a few “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran” moments, too.

neokneme @ 126

This one is right on target…

Five Things You Need to Know: Carina CD-Oh-No; What Is a CDO?; Down In the Tranches; Dominoes; Capitulation vs. Kickoff

* It’s an important story.
* Carina CDO Ltd., the CDO in question, is the first CDO to begin unwinding.
* According to S&P, the ratings on the most senior class of Carina CDO Ltd. were lowered to BB, two levels below investment grade, from AAA, while another AAA class was slashed 18 steps to CCC-.
* For all intents and purposes that means it is practically bankrupt.
* “The chance of material losses to noteholders is high, New York-based S&P said,” according to Bloomberg.

Not that different from… Eta Carinae

It may be more than just a coincidence that the names are so similar…

ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) Carinae????