A little Liza for you…
Oh huzzah for long term planning. The dollar hits a new low. And it isn’t just supermodels catwalking away from being paid in dollars — Warren Buffet is downgrading his faith in American cash making a comeback any time soon, too. Via Bloomberg:
Gisele Bundchen wants to remain the world’s richest model and is insisting that she be paid in almost any currency but the U.S. dollar.
Like billionaire investors Warren Buffett and Bill Gross, the Brazilian supermodel, who Forbes magazine says earns more than anyone in her industry, is at the top of a growing list of rich people who have concluded that the currency can only depreciate because Americans led by President George W. Bush are living beyond their means.
Even after the dollar lost 34 percent since 2001, the biggest investors and most accurate forecasters say it will weaken further as home sales fall and the Federal Reserve cuts interest rates. The dollar plummeted to its lowest ever last week against the euro, Canadian dollar, Chinese yuan and the cheapest in 26 years against the British pound.
But all is not lost:
“As long as the dollar’s decline doesn’t trigger inflation, it’s a good thing, helping the U.S. economy to stay out of recession,” said Robert Mundell, a professor at Columbia University in New York who won the Nobel Prize for economics in 1999.
Let’s just all cross our fingers, hope that energy prices stay low for the winter and that food transportation prices don’t spike, and go out there and do some shopping for the good of the country. Because, frankly, that’s pretty much been the strategery in all circumstances, hasn’t it? Good thing we have that whole supply side oil thing under control. (Froomkin has more.)
At least we’re buddy-buddy with France again, since Sarkozy is George Bush’s bestest new chum:
French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Wednesday accused the United States of standing by as the U.S. dollar falls, warning that risks of an “economic war” in global trade were rising.
I bet George “truth to power” Bush just loved that one. Well, at least we’ll all be home for the holidays. Erm…some of us, anyway:
Increasingly, research shows that race has also played a role in who gets sold a subprime loan. Forty-one percent of black home buyers in metro Atlanta earning more than $100,000 a year got a subprime mortgage, compared with 7 percent of whites with the same income.
Subprime loans are about 10 times more likely to fail than prime loans.
“This is a crisis,” says William Brennan, director of Atlanta Legal Aid’s Home Defense Program for the last 19 years and one of the first consumer advocates to warn Congress of the coming meltdown.
“More than two million subprime mortgages have already failed or will end in foreclosure,” says Brennan. “In metro Atlanta, every month thousands of families are losing their homes to foreclosure. On the courthouse steps today, more than 6,000 homeowners were facing foreclosure.”
Why are the words hell and handbasket coming to mind? Is it 2009 yet?
PS — Who says, “Hey, we seem to have a spare pile of date rape drug hanging around. Why don’t we fill some tiny children’s toy pieces with it? Kids will never swallow those.” The stupid…it burns.
(H/T to Mr. ReddHedd.)
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Christy!
That date-rape drug story is just bizarro.
BADA BING! x3
OK, enuf..
Took time to read.
benjamins!!!
Hi Christy!
Hi Mr ReddHedd!
Are we going to be hearing the word as predicted by Libby in the Aspen note…”bioterrorism”, relating to toys??
Judy must be writing away….
I think George is trying to time things so that the next president, if any, will have to deal with a major economic crisis. Remember how the Clinton bubble burst in the first six months of Georgie’s presidency? (IIRC it began to deflate in the last months of Clinton’s presidency.) But the economic dragon may not wait.
Oops. My bad: I rashly assumed that Bush had some skills to manipulate the timing of the crisis. Can anyone remember who the Secretary of the Treasury is?
Bob in HI
Gawd….it is all so freaking obvious.
LS @ 6
Christmas must be near. ABC is reporting that the FBI is warning of an AQ attack on malls in LA and Chicago this shopping season.
Yep. Things look really bad, almost grim in fact.
EPU’d from earlier thread:
Biodun @ 141
shall we laugh, or cry?
JF @ 10
Either THAT, or there’s a big piece of legislation that Bush/Cheney want to have passed in one heckuva hurry. Is there a recess coming up???
China is also considering dropping the dollar in favor of the Euro. The only thing that’s preventing inflation is the fact that oil is still traded in dollars. At least for the moment, as Iran is advocating moving away from the dollar and has been for awhile. While the Saudi’s and Kuwaitis may be Bush Buddies, I don’t think they’ll continue to take the revenue hit forever.
Iraq and lawyers are currently consuming most of the Bush administration time, so they’re just letting this solve itself.
Boxturtle (perhaps that’s best, everything Bush has touched he’s screwed up)
Toby Wollin @ 13
Yes, in about 2 weeks or less.
Giselle’s manager says the “pay me in Euros” story is fake.
I try to keep up on all the latest supermodel news.
There was some news recently bout Exxon and I believe Cheveron having lower than stock analyst expected profits.
Since we know that demand has only grown with population.
And we know that prices are up…well what happened?
My guess is the oil companies held the price down by cutting their profit margins. Which would explain their lower earnings.
Now why would any Oil company do that?
I think that they are helping Bush.
I think they are worried that Bush like Nixion might have to impose price controls on oil to shore up his popularity.
I think the oil companies know the price of oil is going to skyrocket and their trying to get in front of the problem as much as they can.
I am agog at $100K incomes getting sidelined into subprimes…!!!
I was wondering when anyone would pick up on the dollar devaluation issue.
When a currency is devalued 12% in one year (as the US $ has devalued against the Euro) it will sooner or later have consequences. The policy of benign neglect has helped US exporters because what we sell keeps getting cheaper, but the negative consequences loom large: hyper-inflation, recession, pull out of foreign investment, etc.
Our government has allowed the US $ to devalue against all currencies, especially against the Euro where it has devalued about 30% in 5 years) and the crisis that will come from this is not on anybody’s radar.
Reagan’s supply side economics were no better than Bush’s, but there was one difference – Reagan believed in (and maintained) a strong $. Supply side economics and a weak $ sound like a recipe for quite a collapse. For the sake of my children, I sure hope I am wrong!
I’ve been reporting for over a year that they’re printing so much money they had to stop reporting the m3 index and I’m surprised inflation isn’t killing the economy allready…they are just printing and printing and printing and eventually the holders of that paper are going to start buying our assets at way over market
they allready own more of our bussiness then is healthy for our economy
anyway, valery is going to be on randi rhodes in a few minutes, tune in
TheraP @ 12
Both?
Toby Wollin @ 13
Yes — Congress normally takes a short recess for Thanksgiving.
I loved Froomkin quoting Bush repeatedly saying that we have a “strong dollar because that’s our policy to have a strong dollar.”
Of coourse, nothing to back the statements up but his faith in his own words.
Or IOW, we’re f*ck’d. Not that we haven’t already known this.
I was just reading over at Slashdot about the kids toys. Seems that the company specs said that the beads should be made with the non-toxic chemical 1,5-pentanediol, found in many forms of glue, and someone at the Chinese factory substituted 1,4-butanediol (which metabolizes into GHB) (and is much cheaper in bulk) (and whoever it was pocketed the profit).
So this is exactly like the lead toothpaste story. Corruption and kickbacks, and the local judicial system willing to look the other way.
dakine01 @ 22
Remember, this is the same brain that says, “American’s don’t torture.”
Brisingamen @ 20
So all the turkeys can go home.
perris @ 19
can I get some samples? ;)
If the interactions between the neocon cabal and the Musharraf cabal would just be looked at with eyes wide open…this Administration would be sooooo impeached, indicted, and convicted…see for example, Seymour Hersh, “The Getaway” that was published in the NewYorker back in 2002.
JF -
Christmas must be near. ABC is reporting that the FBI is warning of an AQ attack on malls in LA and Chicago this shopping season.
“Go shopping”….but… but… but… the “terrarists are comin’ to the mall!”.
It is just truly too delicious. *g*
These guys bet against the dollar about 3 years ago – it took a year or two but they got their billions for their bet.
Last I heard Buffet was buying up some South American currency of some sort.
Dollar hedge is also aided the overseas investment being the best bet for the past few years, and is of course -part- of the reason oil cost so much (USD) per barell.
They played their cards pretty good. Tech bubble – lower capital gains – cash out – real estate – loans & low interest – make money there – bubble again – pop it – and make off with enough money to ride out the next recession… wow a two recession Predident he really sucks bad for 98% of people, but the 2% must be erecting shrines for these criminals.
Nina Katarina @ 23
(slaps hand to forehead) when, when, when are we going to stop allowing this crap into the country? Do we have to declare chinese toys a cell of terrorists?
air america link for randi rhodes, valery is doing an interview sometime in her broadcast today
http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Froomkin is on the case and kicking bottom. Don’t miss today’s column, cited above.
Waccamaw @ 28
Quick, sell ‘em the stuff we just got from China!
Meanwhile, it’s business as usual for Chimpy today:
My bold. I guess that’s how to describe one home.
Blue America’s Noriega…
Twain @25: Spew warning please!
I’m so glad I wasn’t drinking/eating anything…
OT Called both House Judiciary Committee and my Congresswoman to urge the scheduling of Cheney impeachment hearing ASAP.
Got a busy signal at HJC (so sent email) but did talk to my Rep’s office, who then asked for full mailing address…usually they just ask for the zip code. Not sure what that meant.
wiki on us not reporting m3
What do you want to bet that Bush will start taxing people more who take their money out of the country? Well he won’t call it a tax.
But he won’t increase the tax on people like Warren and other rich folks who have already taken their money out of the country.
Oh and “Investment Bankers” – wall street packaged up these loans and distributed a large portion of the risk right back to individual investors (and who gets left holding the bag… people without enough funds to hedge their bets with diversified investments that run to make some money before the end). If you keep putting your money on the table and upping it eventually someone is going to come and take it away – same as they did in the tech bubble when all the midddle class started to make some money and needed a pimp slap.
holy FUHRIGGIN crow, rhandi rhodes is talking about the wireless tapping as STEALING
and she is using EXACTLY my examples, she’s talking about meetings, bussiness secrets, plans, etc
she reads the lake or her research team reads the lake
tee hee
perris @ 37
Any unoffical numbers on what the M3 index might be at, and what does that number mean for the economy?
This Christmas shopping season will show whether this statement (from Christy’s Reuter link above) is true:
John Hancock’s Cheney, however, predicts that U.S. consumers will keep up their spending. “The record for American consumers is that we spend through thick or thin,” he said.
Anyone think that the consumer spending numbers will prove this Cheney (not the Veep) wrong?
Its like Ron Paul said – the only thing we still export is dollars.
I just googled “news” navy persian gulf, and this is the top article/story, chilling doesn’t even describe it:
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.c…..01932.html
Nick Sarkozy, the new Tony Blair.
Oh boy:
(Same link as my 34.)
do-si-do @ 34
Bell’s bells and codfish, darlin’. What’d ya think the pre-pre-pre-Christmas sales are for? To get rid of all the stuff they’re gonna put re-calls on. ;-(
Gee, why has the tide sucked out sooooo far?
Those Sub-primes aren’t going to magically stop failing, and those pissed-off Europeans holding those worthless securities aren’t going to get burned twice by now holding onto our Bush-ruined sinking dollars…
There’s a wall of Money Pain coming.
Brisingamen @ 36
MHO is that it’s easy to look up an appropriate zip code and pretend to be a constituent. So perhaps aides are doing more due diligence to screen legitimate callers?
think progress right now
perris @ 40
Cool Beans! even our commentors are read by the MSM…er when they are not to busy repeating White House talking points that is!
Oh shizzola – ships headed for Persian Gulf:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/…..yment.html
Somebody informed me yesterday — and don’t know yet whether this is reliable information or not, but this person seemed sufficiently cheesed off to make me believe him — that new regulations have decreed that U.S. citizens cannot open banking accounts overseas. Just in case you wanted to shelter some of your moolah in, oh, euros or sumpin’.
perris @ 40
high five and a knuckle bash, perris!
When the chimp in chief is flying over Beltsville in one of those shiny white Air Force 1 jets, returning from one of his regular jaunts to Republican fundraisers, we always present him with the two-finger salute from the ground.
hey guys, a website that campaigns that global warming as a hoax is about to win “best science blog”
they’ve been bombed by the concervatives and we have to get that blog off as the winner
check out
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..ce-denial/
Well, the party is over and some Americans are going have to pay for it. Unfortunately, they won’t be the same Americans that attended the party.
LS @ 52
US: Iran attack plans ready if needed
perris @ 56
You are just a busy multitasking bee, aren’t you? which blog is the best science blog? Al gore over there. He’s quite the awards glutton these days ;)
Things Come Undone @ 37
FWIW, I don’t think Warren sends his money overseas. I think he is in the process of giving it away to a number of charitable foundations, including the Gates foundation.
do-si-do @ 59
we have to make sure that site that says global warming is a hoax does not win…we really have to have at that voting thing
And this from this afternoon:
perris at 61
OK, I clicked through and have my instructions: Bad Astronomy.
LS –
That article from the Canadian newspaper is indeed scary, but should probably be taken with a grain of salt, as one of their other headlines is “Former Extraterrestrial Exposure Law proves Extraterrestrials live among us”
well… with all this bad news they can always fall back on their usual recourse of makin’ us too numb with fear to care…
Hot of the presses from Homeland Insecurity:
CNN; “FBI warns of uncorroborated threat to malls”
‘uncorrobated”.. does this mean they don’t believe their own propaganda anymore? hell and handbaskets indeed
speaking of which, I haven’t seen the sun in this city for days..
valery is on randi right now, she sounds great, a little more info going on too
I can’t live blog, I am at my desk and paying bills as well as doing the bussiness of us patriots
old gold @ 57
Your comment makes me think that you already spent your share of those Bush tax cuts.
Ugly In Pink @ 64
*G*….oops, I didn’t see that part….
valery speaks 5 fluent languages in case you didn’t know it
TheraP @ 12
Gotta laugh to keep from crying.
Well there is this explantion of the current gooper strategy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..71744.html
Just in case I haven’t been clear that I dislike Cheney immensely:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..egulatory/
do-si-do @ 31
Inspecting imports might be bad for businesses that are big Republican contributors, so this administration isn’t doing it. Just like they fought like hell to prevent inspection of cargo containers, they haven’t increased the number of inspectors for imports as the volume of imports has grown several times as large as it was in 2001.
China may be part of the problem, but China hasn’t particularly gotten worse, our government has. This is what happens when you drown government in a bathtub.
I wonder what the “free market” solution to this one is supposed to be…
Blub @ 65
‘Uncorroborated’ msot likely means someone mentioned something somewhere involving a mall somewhere else and something being a bomb (have they considered a movie in a multiplex being the subject?). They’re trying to go through all those millions of e-mails and phone calls they’ve recorded to see if anything there matches.
After Christmas, they’ll probably announce there was nothing to see here.
Badwater @ 67
well.. there’s always that fear thing and another war or two or three… gotta keep feedin’ the machine
Blub @ 65
I think it’s good the FBI is warning us against believing uncorroborated threats! Oh, wait, I don’t think that’s what they meant… *g*
Head of Special Forces SERES Training Says Waterboarding IS TORTURE
“Waterboarding is torture, PERIOD and should be banned,” Malcolm Wrightson Nance, a former Navy instructor of prisoner of war and terrorist hostage survival programs, told a House constitutional subcommittee. “I believe that we must reject the use of the waterboard for prisoners and captives and cleanse this stain from our national honor.”
As a former master training specialist in survival programs, Nance said that he has experienced waterboarding and that he personally led or was involved in using the procedure on hundreds of other trainees at the Navy’s Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape School.
Nance described it as “slow motion suffocation” that provides enough time for the subject to feel incredible anxiety about what’s happening to them. “water overpower(s) your gag reflex, and the feel(ing of) your throat open(ing) and allow(ing) pint after pint of water to involuntarily fill your lungs….The victim is drowning,”
Training sessions against enemy torture are the sole places where waterboarding belongs, not as part of efforts to gain intelligence information from foreign agents, said said Col. Steven Kleinman, a senior intelligence officer and military interrogator for the U.S. Air Force Reserves. Such “coercive” interrogation techniques aren’t as effective as others, because lies are more often elicited under harsher methods.
“Tragically, many of these same tactics have migrated into the repertoire of interrogators seeking intelligence information,” Kleinman said.
Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Couch, appellate judge of the Navy-Marine Corps Court of Criminal Appeals, said he was willing to testify when permitted said the Pentagon prohibited him from appearing. In a March 31 Wall Street Journal story, Couch said he had refused to prosecute a suspected terrorist because the confession had been induced by torture.
[And in the “Ooops, I made a whopper of a grammatical mistake” award category…”]
Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., the ranking Republican on the panel,
said that he is against torture but that “sometimes we have to take measures to protect the innocent that we do not like. Severe interrogations are sometimes part of doing that.“
P J Evans @ 74
and a month after that ‘retraction’, shrub will personally take credit for averting a massive coordinated enemy strike against the sacred temple of American retail that would have, had it succeeded, deprived trillions of fine upstanding Christian suburban white kids the hot Chinese-manufactured toxic toy of the moment. Shrub will singlehandedly be declared the savior of Christmas (and of the very idea of capitalism!).
Let’s look back fondly. On Feb. 6, 2000, while campaigning in Durham, New Hampshire, candidate Bush explained his philosophy on taxation just about as plainly as a politician can.
“If there’s a recession it’s important to cut taxes to make sure the economy grows.”
Today, thanks to the MBA Preznit and his Republic enablers, both the Canadian and Australian dollars are more valuable than the US dollar. Oil is about to pass $100 a barrel, not because of increased demand but because the Bush US dollar has lost so much value.
The economy appears to be imploding. Why isn’t Bush demanding more magical tax cuts?
I’m honestly starting to wonder where these stinkers plan to run to when the proverbial sh*te hits the jet engine
Dow at closing – even
OT: I’ve now gotten enough sleep to post this amusing eyewitness report of our pal Tom Davis, who encountered the mother of his wife’s opponent, Chap Petersen, while campaigning for his wife at the Robinson High School polling place on Election Day (via NotLarrySabato):
“Other people’s money.” (It was money donated to Tom’s PAC.) Classy guy, as always.
LS @ 81
that means bush promised some key invstors they were going to print more money and give it to them free of charge if they re invest in the market
Badwater @ 79
..or privatize the IRS.. with Blackwater as the collection agent for absconders who aren’t members of the rethug elite
Blub @ 80
Those remaining in office will remind us that they have kept us safe from gay marriage. That should be comforting while waiting in line for soup.
Blub @ 79
Paraguay
Redshift @ 82
Makes all the difference in the world, huh?
DiFi is having a change of heart…
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who sits on the Judiciary and Intelligence committees, said she is re-evaluating her support for retroactive legal immunity. She voted to approve it as part of the Intelligence Committee bill.
“I did support [immunity] in the intel bill and I’m giving it further thought,” she said.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._1108.html
François Duvalier
François Duvalier (better known as “Papa Doc”) came to power in 1957, as a democratically-elected leader on a populist platform. He had previously served as Minister of Health, and was noted due to his particular involvement in the fight against yaws. After an attempted coup against him in 1958, Duvalier rewrote the Haitian constitution, making himself a President for Life. In 1959, he created the Tonton Macoutes, which was granted automatic amnesty through his powers for any crime they committed.
[edit] Reputation
The Tonton Macoutes were known for dressing in militant clothing comparative of Italian fascist and Nazi attire. They were also known for wearing dark glasses, wielding machetes, and leaving their victims hanging in a public place as a warning to others. They cultivated the image of being vodun demons or zombies. They often had firearms but resorted to machetes and blades to inflict severe and grievous bodily harm to victims. Torture was a widespread tactic and used to warn enemies of the MVSN. It is alleged that the death squad continued to operate in Haiti, through 2000.
CTuttle @ 88
hmm.. I have to wonder how many bags of turd she received at her San Fran offices (in the aftermath of her Mukasey cave-in), before she started coming to her senses
Bill Says He Was Misquoted About Others Swiftboating His Wife and claims that he actually said that ALL the Democratic Candidates would be “swiftboated” by the hand count when they were asked about Spitzer’s Drivers License ID Policy.
Meanwhile, Obama’s infamous “crotch-cradling” picture on the internet wasn’t apparently done during the Pledge of Alligience, it occurred during the singing of “My Country “Tis of Thee”.
Blub @ 90
Heh, is her web site still down? ;-)
cinnamonape @ 77
too bad couch was not permitted to testify. but it was still a chilling hearing.
… and i did rip the audio, if anyone wants an mp3 of the hearing for their ipod (link)
Blub @ 90
Wonder if she’s actually had a lot of staff
defecationsdefections.Blub @ 90
I actually find it very interesting that she would consider changing her mind…especially, since her reason seemed to be to get someone into the DOJ who seemed “relatively” decent, rather than leaving the door open for W to recess appoint someone much, much worse. Tiz a puzzlement.
On the money blogs, all the news is bad.
$500 billion in losses?
http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog
http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
Who’s our daddy? China!!!
http://elainemeinelsupkis.type…..y_matters/
CTuttle @ 88
Woo Oo!
Ohhhhhhh….she’s reevaluating the immunity…I thought she was reevaluating Mukasey…
Gawd…torture…immunity….torture….immunity…my head is spinning….
LS @ 94
She’s possibly cahnging her mind on Telecom Immunity which she voted for in the Senate Intelligence Committee mark-up and now has a chance to change her vote in the SJC. Not changing her perspective of Mukasey.
dakine01 @ 98
I got it, I got it…I wasn’t payin’ attention!!
LS @ 98
she’s reevaluating that she doesn’t want to look for another job after the next election
we can get her to re evaluate mukassey if we make it clear she’s out of there if she ok’s the guy
Elliott @ 97
Has she said anything about retiring in 2012? I wonder if people out in CA are making serious noises about primarying her in 2012.
Elliott @ 97
According to the article, the Title II section containing the Immunity will be marked up next week… More time to ratchet up the pressure… ;-)
dakine01 @ 60
Buffet is giving money to Bill Gates’s Charity but he is still running his company and investing recently he invested in an Israeli firm. Also he is rummored to have bought some South American currency as a hedge against the dollar.
Just how bad is our ecconomy if our top investor thinks a South American country can get him better returns?
I suscpect that to prevent a run on Wallstreet to foreign countries Bush will tax, fine whatever he decides to call it cash transfers to foreign countries.
Although I may be wrong and MayDaze@42 maybe right about Chenney being a true believer in the Bush economy.
To actualy expect an increase in retail sales at Christmas this year should be considered finnancial malpractice by Darth’s planner.
Gold and Oil will go up the dollar will keep falling a weak rise in holiday sales is the best we can hope for.
But if holiday sales tank then the American stock market will tank. Gold and oil will skyrocket and investment in foreign countries will go up.
Bush can in response to the economic crises pay down the debt, increase revenue, freeze investment or insitiute price controls on oil and food etc. I bet he’ll freeze investments first.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 100
She will be 79 in 2012 – doubt she will run.
So the famed 2:15 rally kicked in today about half an hour late…
Forgetting the day-by-day fluctuations, over the last ten months–since the February Bear-Sterns announcements–the fiscal news has been literally the worst I’ve heard in my lifetime. Close to $50BB in writedowns already on mortgage losses and associated insurance; credible sources forecasting $100-$500BB more; a $40BB loss at GM; unprecendented Fed Reserve liquidity injections; Fed intervention to form a super-SIV rescue vehicle at the four largest investment banks; a credit seize-up; historically high foreclosure rates; giant falls in the dollar. (Anyone who was watching the dollar Tuesday night around 10 PM got a heart attack…) Negative earnings growth for the S&P.
And what has the DJIA done since February in all this turmoil? Rise 4%.
I really don’t get it.
Toby Wollin @ 87
And I am glad Chap’s mom didn’t back down from that clown.
Blub @ 90
plus calls from major donors/corporations who might be waking up to the fact that their privacy is being violated too!
-ck- @ 96
It is sad that the MSM won’t make George Bush defend his tax cuts in light of this news.
Twain @ 105
Snarlin’ Arlen will be 80 in 2010, but he claims he will run for reelection. Besides, if we are still in Iraq at that time, her husband would lose out on his war profiteering.
Smiling b/c I increased my investment in gold & precous metals a while ago.
dear mods – thanks for releasing my comment @93, don’t know what i did wrong (it’s the link to today hjc hearing on torture).
ThingsComeUndone @104:
Cheney is not a true believer in the American economy. He shorted the dollar almost two years ago.
Things Come Undone @ 103:
FWIW, the Cheney that mayDaze was quoting was not Darth; just someone who shares a name with the Dark Lord.
Things Come Undone @ 104
Bush will respond like he always does: bike rides, vacations, and brush clearing.
redx @ 43
Are you sure he didn’t mention military hardware?
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 116
And the lives of those serving in the military.
Professor Foland @ 106
not if you price it in euros.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 116
nor did he mention national assets, nor did he mention our jobs
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 116
Speaking of Ron Paul, Blitzer was just interviewing him about the Blank check Nancy wants to hand Shrub for Iraq…
redx @ 39
The executives that approved these lending underwriting guidelines that marketed loans with nothing down, low interest initial offerings, interest only and no income verification are guilty of criminal negligence and betraying their fuduciary responsibility to their stockholders. They should be criminally indicted. Any moron could forsee what was going to happen when rates were adjusted and the market cooled. This is the S&L crisis of the 80s on steriods with foreknowledge. This was a criminal scheme and nothing less. Reagan started de-regulation and every bit of de-regulation since has had an adverse impact in this country.
CTuttle @ 120
Ack: is this the new talking point? Dems didn’t stop us from wrecking the country, so it’s all their fault with in this mess. vote for us!
Diane @ 111
Half-smiling, half-grimacing because I got a mortgage on a property in the European Union two years ago.
1. I believe Buffett initiated a position with the Brazilian Real in the past month. Soros is also said to be active in gearing up on several currency positions.
2. I remain STUNNED at the news clip I heard today (referenced by Ms. Smith above)that kids toys have a DATE RAPE chemical on them????? My God. Look, I “sorta” understand how a toy gets lead paint on it…it’s not right, but I can understand how it happened.
But….a date rape drug???? Jesus H. Christ. That is madness. And, it’s probably due to the very, very lax oversight by Commander Guy and his cronies. “Mr. President, why do you and your Republicans keep poisoning our children??”
Sure wish Nancy & Harry would pipe up on this…and be loud and proud! But alas….tis the crickets….whilst our nation’s children become ill over this horror of a chemical on their toys. Disgusting.
Ghostman
brendan @ 112
You have a link or a site that tracks Darth’s investments? Does it track the Bush family trust investments?
Darth shorted the dollar that is the kind of talking point we need to get out to our Democratic Presidential candidates. If its not illegal for a Vice Pres, or Pres to short the dollar it should be!
Still that was 2 years ago I’m sure Darth is rakin it in now on his short the dollar play. But that does not make Maydaze @42 wrong what Chenney is doing now.
dakine01 @ 114
Disreagrd my comment then @125
Things Come Undone @125:
http://articles.moneycentral.m…..dNews.aspx
selise @ 118
At first, I thought that this was exactly what was going on–increased FDI demand. But capital inflows are way down. But I don’t watch the numbers carefully enough; maybe the inflow reduction still leaves enough room for this to be driven by FDI.
It’s time to decapitate the Unitary Executive. Dems don’t have to link rising oil prices and the sinking dollar to Bush’s invasion and occupation of the Middle East (although it would be nice). Impeach Bush and Cheney right now. Subpoena Scooter to answer a few basic questions. Scooter won’t testify and that will make Bush and Cheney appear even more guilty. It will also shine the spotlight on Bush’s commutation of Scooter’s sentence. As the economy continues to go south, GOP Senators will feel increasing pressure to convict on the Articles of Impeachment. Doesn’t that leave Nancy in charge?
Professor Foland @ 128
I’m pretty sure the fed is just creating more liquidity (printing free paper) and insisting it be invested in the market
no link but that’s my assessment
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 108
Well, I was being optimistic. She needs some time to live in her $16 million mansion.
brendan @ 123
A client bought property in Portugal this summer. Sounds wise to me.
Professor Foland @ 106
I think we’re in a time when we have to remember that the DJIA is based on just 30 companies, and thus may not serve as the best indicator of the health of the economy as a whole.
Defense-related companies, for instance, seem to be a growth sector under BushCo, thus perhaps making up for the problems in the banking and insurance industries.
Just talked to my firewood delivery guy. His prices have gone way up because the cost of gassing his trucks has gone through the room.
I reminded him that I initially called him for a delivery on Oct. 17, and I have to eat the increase?
Hey, he says – it costs money to save money.
Peterr @ 131
It is the most visible indicator and is seen as the best by many low-information TV news viewers.
Bernanke was a little shaky at the witness table today.
Testilying is hard on the nerves.
Boo Radley @ 129
It depends on the timing. Both Nixon and Agnew were forced to resign. Yet the House Speaker at that time did not become President.
“The Cheneys also had between $10 million and $25 million in American Century International Bond (BEGBX, news, msgs). The fund buys mainly high-quality foreign bonds (predominantly in Europe) and rarely hedges against possible increases in the value of the dollar.”
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It does not seem like Chenney believes in Supply Sided Economics after all. Maybe he think if he talks up supply side all the RUBES, er GOPers will invest in loser companies thus lowering the price of the stuff Darth wants to buy.
My how fiendish, how evil, what a d!ck.
perris @ 130
I agree but who is doing the investing?
Professor Foland @ 128
i really don’t know… but wouldn’t it matter where the flows were going? not into cdos anymore i’m thinking.
just curious to understand a bit (my first comment to you should have had a question mark after it *g*)
Badwater @ 136
Ok — let’s say pressure mounts to impeach Cheney, and he resigns “for health reasons.”
Who the hell does the Criminal-in-Chief nominate to replace Cheney? I can’t think of a candidate that could get through the confirmation process.
brendan @ 127
Thanks I bookmarked the article!
Things Come Undone @ 137
we need to federalize every single asset gained while cheney has been in office, he cannot have gained through insider information, he must be divested of his haliburton profits and he must be divested from his economic moves that were made with knowledge gained as vice president
and we must divest him of profit he made with investments decided on with the information he stole from us in the nsa spying program
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 102
Don’t know how much I can say, but for all the SoCal firepups
There is an Executive Board meeting of the CDP in Anaheim in a week and a half and there will be a (vigorous?) debate on DiFi’s recent actions
If you can go I would encourage you to be there and speak your peace as a California Democrat as to how you feel about her recent votes
(This may be why she’s having second thoughts on telecom immunity. And yes, her offices and phone lines are, and have been very busy)
Things Come Undone @ 137
No one really does believe in supply side economics. It’s just a great con for Republics to trot out at election time. Implementing it really means stealing as much as you can before they wise up and throw you out of office. The problems it causes are left for someone else to fix.
Brisingamen @ 140
Ford got through during the watergate era, a time of solid democratic strength. There’s bound to be someone now, though perhaps not Jeb.
The Cheneys also had between $10 million and $25 million in American Century International Bond (BEGBX, news, msgs). The fund buys mainly high-quality foreign bonds (predominantly in Europe) and rarely hedges against possible increases in the value of the dollar.perris @ 142
Every GOPer From Bush on down to Scooter and Karen Hughes should get the same treatment. Investing ussing Insider information is a crime. Again this is something the Democratic Presidential Candidates need to talk about!
JF @ 135
I said the DJIA just to be specific, but it’s true of equities generally–S&P and Wilshire indices show similar gains. The only commonly-used index down over that period is the Russell 2000.
Badwater @ 145
here’s the principle of “supply side economics”;
“give as much middle class money and assets as possible to people so wealthy they will never ever be able to spend the wealth they had before you gave them middle class assets
this in the hope that with this money they could not possibly use they will spend even more then they received and the middle class will magically get back more then was taken from them”
Does ‘a perfect storm’ raise any memories? We are moving into one. Like Krugman and Steven Roach, I thought it would have come several years ago, since the writing was on the wall, especially following the 2004 election. But as Krugman I think has written, these processes are like a roadrunner cartoon — the roadrunner keeps moving forward in space until the final crash. We’ve been doing that.
There is not much that can be done in the short run unless the defence budget is drastically cut, which doesn’t seem likely. As the hurt starts to spread through the population, the pressure to maintain if not increase social spending to help out the millions of new poor will be irresistible. We are the end game of imperial overreach. This is usually how things like this happen.
It is absolutely crucial that the blame for this catastrophe (and all the others) be placed on the administration and its supporters in the media. There should be no running away from the imbecilities that passed for policy during the past six and a half years. We can’t do much to avoid the imnpending devastating economic and strategic catastrophe. The one thing we can do for the long run is get the facts straight, and get them out. The American public have to know how they were conned and who conned them.
Ghostman @ 124
I think the headlines are a bit inaccurate, but…accurate. The date rape drug isn’t actually like painted on the toys. The toys (the paint dots or whatever) are made from a cheaper chemical than what was supposed to be used. In certain conditions the cheaper chemical transforms into date rape material.
same but different. and outrageous.
JF @ 135
Sadly, it is also seen as the best by many low-information TV news producers.
Knut Wicksell @ 149
I think you’re right, but I don’t see much happening given the current go-along Democratic leadership.
Badwater @ 145
Ford was a respected Minority Leader in the House when nominated to replace Spiro T. My guess all along has been if Cheney left office, it would be someone like Alan simpson as a compromise candidate. Respected but not thought to have designs on the office for the future.
Badwater @ 146
Agnew went first, replaced by Ford. Tricky Dick famously stated he did not want to resign and make ford president. practically threw the pen at him.
Peterr @ 133
the russell2000 is even for the same time period – and has been tracking the djia except for a very bad 15 days at the end of july. (the s&p500 is midway between the two)
Oh, lord I just thought of one really bizzare possibility:
Cheney resigns “for health reasons” and Crawford’s idiot nominates Al Gore for Veep (nothing in current law says the VP has to be from the Prez’s political party)…
Things Come Undone @ 139
The Fed is printing plenty of money, about 50% more than last year.
The money is injected into the banking system is exchange for
worthlessunmarketable paper.Dean Baker on the China currency switch. To which I’d only add that
1. the Chinese central bankers are not going to be trying to sell off all their dollar, but they will be selling more of the ones they already have, and keeping fewer of those coming in from current trade.
2. as Dean’s first point implies, the effects of the fall are partly self-limiting, although it could take a while, and be painful to anyone whose fortunes depend on buying imported materials or travelling abroad, because eventually the dollar will look like an appreciatiing asset.
The dollar falling is not great news, but I think the credit market (it’s not just mortgages, though the agony there is still far from its crest), food, and workplace safety problems are much more important economically and will be much more difficult to manage, because they all stem from the same destruction of regulatory and supervisory capacity that we have come to know so well from the republicans since the Reagan era.
As to the dollar crash. This is a matter of simple arithmetic. The United States consumes something like five to seven percent more than she produces. You can only do this by borrowing from the people who supply the difference. It really doesn’t matter (and never did) whether those people are Chinese, Vietnamese, Europeans or Greenlanders; the arithmetic doesn’t change. Somebody has to meet the gap. People abroad are now thinking those loans might not be paid back, and are thinking twice about making them. That is what is causing the dollar collapse.
There’s a limit to that collapse, because the Europeans especially do not want to see their major market shut down because of the high Euro. But to keep it from flying higher, they will have to accept American inflation if and when (as is likely) it comes.
Bernanke is not a hack. I shudder to think what things would have been like if Mankiew or Glenn Hubbard had been named head of the Fed. They are good economists by the conventional standards, but both of them tossed those standards out the window when they served the Administration and defended its disastrous fiscal policy (among others). Bernanke had to brown up his nose for a few months, but it’s a lot cleaner. The bottom line is that he is not likely to bale out the thugs by pumping money into the economy that it can’t absorb. That might just prevent the worst, because if he pumps, you can expect two things: more dollar decline, and higher interest rates as investors start projecting a future inflation.
As I said in the post above, it’s a perfect storm. The public haven’t the faintest idea how bad it can get.
swoopa upstairs
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john in sacramento @ 144
New location!
It is now at the Sheraton Park Hotel at the Anaheim Resort
filled my oil tank for heat yesterday. $840
Doubling Down on Continued Weakness in Real Estate, Financials
Why go short?
No rush, things should keep unraveling for a while..
But wait…there’s more!
The Short view: Crisis widens
Fears rise over spectre of ‘earnings recession’
Is this the swan song for growth?
Politics aside, folks don’t have alot of confidence in the future…
CTuttle @ 88
Right, AT%T, et al. better cut a check and deliver to her office pronto via special messenger.