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“Bush boom”? I’m laughing so hard it hurts. Well what can you expect when 60% of stocks are owned by one percent? But then, we do have “right to work”. Or is that right to slave?

While all eyes ares on the dual housing and credit crises, a new study revealed the continuing and steady decline of employer-based health coverage in the United States. Once the lynchpin of the U.S. health care system, workplace health insurance now covers only 59.7% of Americans, down from 64.2% in 2000. And making matters worse, surging health care costs, insurance premiums and employees’ own contributions continue to exceed inflation and the growth in wages.

For the details, see:
“Employer-Provided Health Coverage Continues to Decline.”

PW!

Fitz!

Stupid bitch! *g*

And the DLC will save us from our economic misery.

Oh my.

Campaign finance reform. LOBBY REFORM.

What happened to my lupins?

Bush is going to have to bailout his economy and his true believer supporters with our tax dollars pretty soon. We have to stop him. We need to make him pay as he goes for his losing war.

I will sleep so tight tonight. Because my party promises a new “morning in America”.

We’ll be steppin’ in high cotton soon. Vote DLC in Nov. 2008.

smapdi @ 9

What happened to my lupins?

I don’t know – did you get a big freeze?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 10

I will sleep so tight tonight. Because my party promises a new “morning in America”.

that sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?

Do we have any potential primary challengers for Dennis Moore?

someone’s pinched ‘me winkles lupines!

A chicken in every pot, come Nov., 2008.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 6

And the DLC will save us from our economic misery.

Welcome, Welcome One and all to Hillary’s:

Corporate Slave State

Wistle while you work! Unless you be a DFH or one O’ them rude, uncivil bloggers!

Evening Doggies! Made it thru another year today, my birthday!
And what’s this about “credit card companies and banking interests building profitable defacto debtors prisons”?? How does one make a debtors prison pay??

Not a freeze yet. Dennis Moore stole them!
Steals from the poor, and gives to the rich!

lupin Ella, baseball manager

Well I guess I’ll be called a trol or
some such thing but this country if in
grave trouble and the speaker of the house
is now going to arm wrestle with the boys
from Texas again and yet Firedog seems to want to
go off tilting forever at windmills.
I just don’t get it!

punaise @ 21

lupin Ella, baseball manager

Yeah ! Great one

I’m listening to Lou Dobbs on Rachel Maddow’s show talking about his new book and how he thinks everyone should say fuck the Democratic AND Republican parties, become independents, bring populist politics back and take back this country for the working man and woman.

And frankly it sounds pretty damn good to me.

Yes PW, it’s true a big part of the reason Bush Dogs exist is because they get money from their corporate masters, but the BIGGEST reason they exist is because they are not only NEVER punished by the Dem leadership, but are indeed encouraged by the leadership to vote the way they do.

In other words, it’s not just the Bush Dogs who have sold the American people down the river, but the entire Democratic leadership. It wasn’t just the Bush Dogs who voted another middle class screwing trade bill out today.

And nothing will change as long as the same DLC pukes are in charge.

That’s why I will not only be taking Dobbs up on his suggestion to quit the Democratic Party and register as an independent, but I will be upping the ante and boycotting the Dems in ‘08.

Fuck em’ all. Call me when the revolution starts…

Oklahoma kiddo @ 17

A chicken in every pot, come Nov., 2008.

Can we have the pot in the chicken instead? *g*

Things Come Undone @ 15

Do we have any potential primary challengers for Dennis Moore?

at the moment, i want to get rid of the entire senate (by voting)

Happy Birthday conniptionfit!

It has been my belief that there are a thousand little fingers in the dike of American’s financial disaster leaky dams waiting for Jan 09 to let go and then blame it ALL on Democrats…. you had that baby it must of pooped on their watch.

As much as I do not want it to happen, I have a feeling that they can’t cover all the leaks that are springing up and it will all come crashing down….. God help us then…

Elliott @ 27

Happy Birthday conniptionfit!

Yes, and many more.

So Dennis Moore is a member of my party?

Twain @ 29

Elliott @ 27

Happy Birthday conniptionfit!

Yes, and many more.

Thirded!!

Perhaps Dennis Moore could balance the Democratic ticket as veep.

Mark C @ 24

I’m listening to Lou Dobbs on Rachel Maddow’s show talking about his new book and how he thinks everyone should say fuck the Democratic AND Republican parties, become independents, bring populist politics back and take back this country for the working man and woman.

And frankly it sounds pretty damn good to me.

Yes PW, it’s true a big part of the reason Bush Dogs exist is because they get money from their corporate masters, but the BIGGEST reason they exist is because they are not only NEVER punished by the Dem leadership, but are indeed encouraged by the leadership to vote the way they do.

In other words, it’s not just the Bush Dogs who have sold the American people down the river, but the entire Democratic leadership. It wasn’t just the Bush Dogs who voted another middle class screwing trade bill out today.

And nothing will change as long as the same DLC pukes are in charge.

That’s why I will not only be taking Dobbs up on his suggestion to quit the Democratic Party and register as an independent, but I will be upping the ante and boycotting the Dems in ‘08.

Fuck em’ all. Call me when the revolution starts…

Yeah, we’ll jes go ahead and start without you. How would that be? Whiners are not, in my experience, much good in a revolution.

Thanks, guys! So far it’s been pretty good- I stayed away from the news all day! I expect it will go downhill pretty fast- but, hey, there’s nothing like the national “News” to get the blood moving and clear the ol’ sinuses!

conniptionfit @ 25

Oklahoma kiddo @ 17

A chicken in every pot, come Nov., 2008.

Can we have the pot in the chicken instead? *g*

Don’t get the ’stuff’ wet though.

Come to think of it suppose we devloped a weighed rating system based on how people vote on the war, healthcare, economy etc then we rate the bush dogs.
Depending on how much money we raise and if we can recruit enough good candidates we start targeting these false dems.
Just the rummor that we were thinking about doing this might convince Rohm and Nancy to grow a Spine.
After all Nancy and Rahm need the support of a majority of the House of Representives to keep their postions in the leadership.
Rahn in particular has ambitions of future advancement being on the wrong side of a populist trend that will define the Democratic party for years kind of hurts him.

And how DOES one make a debtors prison pay?

Wouldn’t it be nice to have a fresh face and name in the White House?

lahoma

I used to live in the KS 3rd District and have followed Dennis Moore’s career. Given the politics of that district, it is my belief that Rep. Moore is as liberal or progressive a Congressman as the Democrats are likely to elect in that district unless the demographics change substantially. I have not heard of a primary challenge and would be surprised if one occurred.

Dennis Moore was a prime beneficiary of Dr. Dean’s 50 State Strategy in that he faced no serious Republican challenger. The Club for Growth was pumping the money elsewhere, like the Kansas 2nd and the AG race. (Dems carried both, though I expect Rep Boyda will have a big target on her back next year in the KS-2.)

It’d be nice if Rep Moore would return some of the love to Dr. Dean.

Leahey: I’m not going to aid and abet the moral contortions of this administration…or something like that.

The President is not above the law, and the President is not allowed to place anyone else above the law, and that’s why I’m voting no on this confirmation. Leahey.

OT -

Did you all hear about the tidal surge poised to hit England shortly? 10 feet above normal. The worry is that it’ll be worse than in 1953, when the surge killed 300. It’s in all the UK papers, here’s one:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..orm208.xml

Oops, looks like the surge has hit, at least in Northern mainland Europe –

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6274377.stm

German national rail service suspended, at least 25 reported dead so far.

Is my party a little bit late to the party?

LS @ 41

Leahey: I’m not going to aid and abet the moral contortions of this administration…or something like that.

Except that by not objecting to Reid’s unanimous consent agreement that is exactly what he did.

conniptionfit @ 37

And how DOES one make a debtors prison pay?

Heh, it hasn’t lived up to many communities’ expectations when CCA was peddling their wares around the country… However, we’ve managed to lock up more individuals per capita, than anybody throughout history…

OT: GRRRRR!
Feds overrule (somehow?) recent WA state requirement that pharmacists must dispense morning after pill.

Mrs. K8 @ 43

OT -

Did you all hear about the tidal surge poised to hit England shortly? 10 feet above normal. The worry is that it’ll be worse than in 1953, when the surge killed 300. It’s in all the UK papers, here’s one:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..orm208.xml

Oops, looks like the surge has hit, at least in Northern mainland Europe –

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6274377.stm

German national rail service suspended, at least 25 reported dead so far.

I find this very worrisome.

Dianne Feinstein up. She should get only half the usual time since she is talking out of both sides of her mouth.

Mrs. K8 @ 43

OT -

Did you all hear about the tidal surge poised to hit England shortly? 10 feet above normal. The worry is that it’ll be worse than in 1953, when the surge killed 300. It’s in all the UK papers, here’s one:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..orm208.xml

Oops, looks like the surge has hit, at least in Northern mainland Europe –

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6274377.stm

German national rail service suspended, at least 25 reported dead so far.

Mrs. K8 @ 43

OT -

Did you all hear about the tidal surge poised to hit England shortly? 10 feet above normal. The worry is that it’ll be worse than in 1953, when the surge killed 300. It’s in all the UK papers, here’s one:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..orm208.xml

Oops, looks like the surge has hit, at least in Northern mainland Europe –

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6274377.stm

German national rail service suspended, at least 25 reported dead so far.

I’m sure Chertoff will offer to help right after supper.

If we are going to be flooded and broiled due to global warming, and perhaps blow ourselves up in a nuclear war, what else matters? This is perhaps the large picture.

Ding Ding, Ding Dong…:(

The Netherlands and Denmark are at sea level…this is truly a horrific disaster!!!

conniptionfit @ 19

Evening Doggies! Made it thru another year today, my birthday!
And what’s this about “credit card companies and banking interests building profitable defacto debtors prisons”?? How does one make a debtors prison pay??

Happy Birthday! ConniptionFit

Hugh @ 49

Dianne Feinstein up. She should get only half the usual time since she is talking out of both sides of her mouth.

Damn, it’s being charged to the Dem’s minutes…(wtf?)

Hugh @ 49

Dianne Feinstein up. She should get only half the usual time since she is talking out of both sides of her mouth.

Sequentially or Concurrently?

smapdi @ 47

OT: GRRRRR!
Feds overrule (somehow?) recent WA state requirement that pharmacists must dispense morning after pill.

WTF?!

Sorry for the OT, but Mike Stark’s offering an opportunity to poke at Tweety on Jim Bohannon’s radio show. Apparently, the fun begins at 10:00pm EST.

the bush dogs are not our friends.

in fact we have very few friends in government.

i saw recall pelosi and recall reid.

at least start the proceedings. then they might realize that the people (us) are their bosses, and not the gop.

Mark C @ 24

I’m listening to Lou Dobbs on Rachel Maddow’s show talking about his new book and how he thinks everyone should say fuck the Democratic AND Republican parties, become independents, bring populist politics back and take back this country for the working man and woman….

lou dobbs is even less our friend than the blue dog democrats. the working man and woman he wants to rise up are the racists who want to take back the borders and kick out all the mexicans.

Aargh, ‘we have a chance to prosecute them…’ DiFi, you’re smoking better sh*t than I…!

LS @ 53

Ding Ding, Ding Dong…:(

The Netherlands and Denmark are at sea level…this is truly a horrific disaster!!!

And then there is Florida, Malibu, New York and HI., etc.

LS @ 53

Ding Ding, Ding Dong…:(

The Netherlands and Denmark are at sea level…this is truly a horrific disaster!!!

Yes. Although I have hope for them, since these are peoples who have lots and lots of experience fighting the oncoming tide — they at least won’t be guilty of a black comedy of errors like FEMA produces.

Oh — Lest I forget! Happy Birthday, conniptionfit! I hope that this coming year brings you joy.

Unfortunately, Dennis’ Gooper opponents have been far more evil and reactionary. His election victories have been barely, 50% until last Nov., with antiwar vote did make a difference.

I will be the first to crtiticize him and I have. I do think that the tone of this post suggests perhaps personal corruption. I do not think that, he is dishonest.

I would like to see primary challengers against all Democrats who will not STOP THE PHONY WARS NOW AND PROSECUTE THE REAL CRIMINALS OF 9-11.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 52

If we are going to be flooded and broiled due to global warming, and perhaps blow ourselves up in a nuclear war, what else matters? This is perhaps the large picture.

The earth will probably be fine. Once humans are no longer around to f*ck things up.

Mrs. K8 @ 62

LS @ 53

Ding Ding, Ding Dong…:(

The Netherlands and Denmark are at sea level…this is truly a horrific disaster!!!

Yes. Although I have hope for them, since these are peoples who have lots and lots of experience fighting the oncoming tide — they at least won’t be guilty of a black comedy of errors like FEMA produces.

Oh — Lest I forget! Happy Birthday, conniptionfit! I hope that this coming year brings you joy.

I’m sure Blackwater will be right there to help…

CTuttle @ 55

Hugh @ 49

Dianne Feinstein up. She should get only half the usual time since she is talking out of both sides of her mouth.

Damn, it’s being charged to the Dem’s minutes…(wtf?)

Perhaps we need to hear from Hillary.

dakine01 @ 64

Oklahoma kiddo @ 52

If we are going to be flooded and broiled due to global warming, and perhaps blow ourselves up in a nuclear war, what else matters? This is perhaps the large picture.

The earth will probably be fine. Once humans are no longer around to f*ck things up.

Heh. Not only that, but Yellowstone is “swelling” as we speak…that oughta fix us.

skippy @ 59

the bush dogs are not our friends.

in fact we have very few friends in government.

i saw recall pelosi and recall reid.

at least start the proceedings. then they might realize that the people (us) are their bosses, and not the gop.

Mark C @ 24

I’m listening to Lou Dobbs on Rachel Maddow’s show talking about his new book and how he thinks everyone should say fuck the Democratic AND Republican parties, become independents, bring populist politics back and take back this country for the working man and woman….

lou dobbs is even less our friend than the blue dog democrats. the working man and woman he wants to rise up are the racists who want to take back the borders and kick out all the mexicans.

House and Senate are considered “Federal” offices and not subject to recall, even if the state has recall provisions.

dakine01 @ 64

Oklahoma kiddo @ 52

If we are going to be flooded and broiled due to global warming, and perhaps blow ourselves up in a nuclear war, what else matters? This is perhaps the large picture.

The earth will probably be fine. Once humans are no longer around to f*ck things up.

sometimes that seems like the only solution, maybe even the inevitable solution

dakine01 @ 64

Oklahoma kiddo @ 52

If we are going to be flooded and broiled due to global warming, and perhaps blow ourselves up in a nuclear war, what else matters? This is perhaps the large picture.

The earth will probably be fine. Once humans are no longer around to f*ck things up.

Yes. But I don’t know whether I am quite ready for that solution.

Mark C @ 24

I have to agree with Dobbs. Neither party is doing this country any good, and both are so busy trying to outsmart the other that nothing is getting done. I have already registered as independent after leaving the Republican Party. I would vote for a Democrat, but so far have not been impressed with anyone.

I think it would be wonderful if we could vote out everyone and start over. Maybe that would get someone’s attention.

LS –

I have somehow missed the info on Yellowstone. Could you point me in a direction where I can read about it?

LS @ 67

dakine01 @ 64

The earth will probably be fine. Once humans are no longer around to f*ck things up.

Heh. Not only that, but Yellowstone is “swelling” as we speak…that oughta fix us.

and we’re about due, it’s been like 650,000 years.

In an injunction signed Thursday, U.S. District Judge Ronald Leighton said pharmacists can refuse to sell the morning-after pill if they refer the customer to another nearby source. Pharmacists’ employers also are protected by the order.
Oregonian
So angry. These people force the Muslim cabbies to carry liquor and handle pork and allow the Pharmacists to refuse to do their state licensed job.
(BTW I am against any accommodation being made for either religious group)

So what would you call a firepup who supports “bankruptcy reform”? A “Bush Pup”?

AP – The Senate moved to confirm Michael Mukasey as the nation’s newest attorney general Thursday despite differences over his position on the legality of harsh interrogation of terrorism suspects.

I just want to ask Schumer what we get in exchange for Mukasey.

smapdi @ 74

In an injunction signed Thursday, U.S. District Judge Ronald Leighton said pharmacists can refuse to sell the morning-after pill if they refer the customer to another nearby source. Pharmacists’ employers also are protected by the order.
Oregonian
So angry. These people force the Muslim cabbies to carry liquor and handle pork and allow the Pharmacists to refuse to do their state licensed job.
(BTW I am against any accommodation being made for either religious group)

thanks smapdi

Elliott @ 69

dakine01 @ 64

The earth will probably be fine. Once humans are no longer around to f*ck things up.

sometimes that seems like the only solution, maybe even the inevitable solution

found an article in a newspaper in an office recently about ‘pre history’ so to speak.
odd discoveries of artifacts that carbon and stone have grown around and enveloped. found when the stones and carbon were split open. the Salzburg cube, etc….

We’ve got dems in red states or red districts who are pretty damned conservative- but they vote for dem leadership…If ya take em out- ya get a gooper.

Primary challenges, in my opinion, should happen AFTER a substantial majority is achieved and should happen only in places where the odds of a progressive winning are very good.

Diane @ 77

I just want to ask Schumer what we get in exchange for Mukasey.

That nice warm feeling that once again, we chose the lesser of two “weevils”.

Elliott @ 73

LS @ 67

Heh. Not only that, but Yellowstone is “swelling” as we speak…that oughta fix us.

and we’re about due, it’s been like 650,000 years.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1037…..=sec-promo

Happy Birthday, Conniptionfit!

Are we yet prepared to indicate that the Republican and Democratic leadership are providing us with good government?

Mrs. K8 @ 72

LS –

I have somehow missed the info on Yellowstone. Could you point me in a direction where I can read about it?

yellowstone caldera info

Oooohhh, acitizen @ 33 called me a name. I’m not just a whiner, but a Whiner, with a capital W and all. That weally hurts my feelings.

Keep working your ass off and voting for these DLC pukes. It’s worked so well for the average American over the last 15 years after all.

Keep up the good work….

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 79

Elliott @ 69

sometimes that seems like the only solution, maybe even the inevitable solution

found an article in a newspaper in an office recently about ‘pre history’ so to speak.
odd discoveries of artifacts that carbon and stone have grown around and enveloped. found when the stones and carbon were split open. the Salzburg cube, etc….

The Salzburg Cube was news to me

DiFi, ‘He’ll be a Non-partisan AG…!’ I’m aghast…

If Mukasey does something Congress disapproves of, and they call him in to testify…what are the odds that he will be “forbidden” to show up due to “executive privilege”????

Heh. Not only that, but Yellowstone is “swelling” as we speak…that oughta fix us.

Caldera catastrophe

John Dean on Olbermann says it will take a national disaster to wake America up.

LS @ 82

Elliott @ 73

and we’re about due, it’s been like 650,000 years.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1037…..=sec-promo

.
Oh good, thanks for the reference:

The volcano at Yellowstone produced massive eruptions 2 million, 1.3 million and 642,000 years ago, all larger than the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens.

any day now.

Feinstein is just an embarrassment. Voting down the nominee will do nothing to stop torture. (Except that it won’t condone it or make her complicit in it.) She says Mukasey will be better than an interim AG but she gave not one shred of evidence for this view. Just awful.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 91

John Dean on Olbermann says it will take a national disaster to wake America up.

Ummm….a 3rd one??

If Mukasey gets in the bottom line is “waterboarding” is acceptable.

rwcole @ 80

We’ve got dems in red states or red districts who are pretty damned conservative- but they vote for dem leadership…If ya take em out- ya get a gooper.

Primary challenges, in my opinion, should happen AFTER a substantial majority is achieved and should happen only in places where the odds of a progressive winning are very good.

That is why Darcy Burner put “More” before “Better” when she said we need “more and better dems. I you look at voting records; the worst Dem. Gene Taylor, has a progressive score 20 points higher that the “best Thug” Chris Shays. People who say the Dems and Republicans are all the same are either misguided or Thug trolls.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 91

John Dean on Olbermann says it will take a national disaster to wake America up.

Katrina was a pretty big disaster and all the American people got was Joe’s hearing.

Hope Chuck & Di were wise enough to get an agreement from him that the DOJ would enforce subpoenas

Hugh @ 93

Feinstein is just an embarrassment. Voting down the nominee will do nothing to stop torture. (Except that it won’t condone it or make her complicit in it.) She says Mukasey will be better than an interim AG but she gave not one shred of evidence for this view. Just awful.

Menendez, is sounding good…

“Ummm….a 3rd one??”

Perhaps a 3rd world war?

Steve,

Yep! To build a successful and more progressive dem party- you first have to have a party strongly in the majority- otherwise you can do nothing.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 95

If Mukasey gets in the bottom line is “waterboarding” is acceptable.

It probably doesn’t even matter anymore since Bushco does what they heck they want to anyway. They won’t tell him anything about anything. They’ll just lie to him or twist everything all up, so he won’t know what’s up and what’s down. Kinda like us. He’ll just be a figurehead.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 84

Are we yet prepared to indicate that the Republican and Democratic leadership are providing us with good government?

I was just reading a piece over at Think Progress about Cheney sitting on an NIE about Iran because it does not agree with his “evidence.”

Forget about “good” government — I say it is time to start looking into criminal charges against Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid for NOT pursuing impeachment against Bush and Cheney. We are at a point that what they are not doing amounts to a dereliction of duty…

Hugh @ 93

Feinstein is just an embarrassment. Voting down the nominee will do nothing to stop torture. (Except that it won’t condone it or make her complicit in it.) She says Mukasey will be better than an interim AG but she gave not one shred of evidence for this view. Just awful.

I maintain that HRC is an embarrassment also.

Diane @ 98

Hope Chuck & Di were wise enough to get an agreement from him that the DOB would enforce subpoenas

The only thing Schumer and Feinstein got out of this was Lieberman-like sops to their egos.

BTW, Kerik was indicted today, expected to be arraigned tomorrow… ;-)

“We are at a point that what they are not doing amounts to a dereliction of duty…”

The view here is that what you say is correct.

CTuttle @ 106

BTW, Kerik was indicted today, expected to be arraigned tomorrow… ;-)

where’s my handkerchief?

tee hee

Should the economy go belly up.. who would be the best candidate/nomination for Dems?

Anyone else already bored of the election that isn’t going to happen for a year?

rwcole @ 101

Steve,

Yep! To build a successful and more progressive dem party- you first have to have a party strongly in the majority- otherwise you can do nothing.

With that in mind, it will interesting to see how this plays out.

With nearly $30 million in the bank compared to $1.6 million for the GOP (plus another $3-4 million in debt), the DCCC has decided to cut off all but the most threatened incumbents in order to focus on the 30 most endangered Republican incumbents.

Kos

Oklahoma kiddo @ 107

“We are at a point that what they are not doing amounts to a dereliction of duty…”

The view here is that what you say is correct.

F*ck! It’s outright Criminal what they’ve done…

Steve

Wow- that’s pretty aggressive!

Eureka Springs @ 109

Should the economy go belly up.. who would be the best candidate/nomination for Dems?

Edwards

I continue to believe there is a fierce battle going on for the Democratic Party’s soul, between the Clinton Democrats and Progressive, or traditional Democrats.

Hi all. Mark Klein Washington Journal call-in rebroadcast on CSPAN-1 while the House votes.

The party has a soul? Learn somethin new everyday….

rwcole @ 117

The party has a soul? Learn somethin new everyday….

I believe strongly that Progressive Democrats have a soul.

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alank @ 119

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Steve-AR @ 111

rwcole @ 101

Steve,

Yep! To build a successful and more progressive dem party- you first have to have a party strongly in the majority- otherwise you can do nothing.

With that in mind, it will interesting to see how this plays out.

With nearly $30 million in the bank compared to $1.6 million for the GOP (plus another $3-4 million in debt), the DCCC has decided to cut off all but the most threatened incumbents in order to focus on the 30 most endangered Republican incumbents.

Kos

Ah, Rahm, wake the f*ck up, we won a majority despite of you, not because of you… I’m feeling it’s deja vu, all over again…

Is this Graham now talking? He thinks it is terribly unfair that some Senators will vote against Mukasey just because he supports torture.

LS @ 120

alank @ 119

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Looks like what my keyboard sounds like.

ran dummmmmm acts of blogness

Elliott @ 14

Oklahoma kiddo @ 10

I will sleep so tight tonight. Because my party promises a new “morning in America”.

that sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?

“Morning in America” was one of Ronald Reagan’s ads in his 1984 re-election campaign. It was an extremely effective piece of advertising: it’s one of only two US election ads I can say I recall as distinct artefacts. The other is LBJ’s Countdown. It’s not that I saw them, it’s not that I’m in advertising, and it’s not that I’m a Republican. I’m not even a US citizen. They are both exemplaries of their respective forms of political marketing.

Anybody noticing a huge upsurge in MSM reporting on adult-on-kid violence lately? I wonder if the stage is being set for some high-profile accusations.

Watching Tom Brokaw on Countdown just now, he said something along the lines of “Barack Obama being the first credible African-American running for President.”

Did I miss something or has conventional wisdom decided that Jesse Jackson was not a “credible” candidate for President. Or is Tom Brokaw just full of shit?

I think I’m voting for the latter as the correct answer.

Apparently, Obama has alienated all the DFH’s – must be all that Lieberliar advice.

Hmmm. @ 125

Anybody noticing a huge upsurge in MSM reporting on adult-on-kid violence lately? I wonder if the stage is being set for some high-profile accusations.

Hmmm, do you know something we don’t?

CTuttle @ 106

BTW, Kerik was indicted today, expected to be arraigned tomorrow… ;-)

This is going to be fun.

dakine01 @ 126

Watching Tom Brokaw on Countdown just now, he said something along the lines of “Barack Obama being the first credible African-American running for President.”

Did I miss something or has conventional wisdom decided that Jesse Jackson was not a “credible” candidate for President. Or is Tom Brokaw just full of shit?

I think I’m voting for the latter as the correct answer.

I was thinking of asking the same question. Although his results were not spectacular, it was certainly my impression that Jackson was “serious” about running for president. By what authority does Brokaw say otherwise? Is he just espousing the Beltway Conventional Wisdom?

Sessions, waterboarding is not torture…

Mark C @ 24

I’m listening to Lou Dobbs on Rachel Maddow’s show talking about his new book and how he thinks everyone should say fuck the Democratic AND Republican parties, become independents, bring populist politics back and take back this country for the working man and woman.

And frankly it sounds pretty damn good to me.

Yes PW, it’s true a big part of the reason Bush Dogs exist is because they get money from their corporate masters, but the BIGGEST reason they exist is because they are not only NEVER punished by the Dem leadership, but are indeed encouraged by the leadership to vote the way they do.

In other words, it’s not just the Bush Dogs who have sold the American people down the river, but the entire Democratic leadership. It wasn’t just the Bush Dogs who voted another middle class screwing trade bill out today.

And nothing will change as long as the same DLC pukes are in charge.

That’s why I will not only be taking Dobbs up on his suggestion to quit the Democratic Party and register as an independent, but I will be upping the ante and boycotting the Dems in ‘08.

Fuck em’ all. Call me when the revolution starts…

Dobbs is personally a bit deep in the wingnut welfare system.

Regnery Press, owned by Eagle Publishing, owned by Phillips International, privately held by Thomas L Phillips.

from the Phillips web site:
http://www.phillips.com/releases.html
Phillips And Lou Dobbs Launch Financial Newsletter

(ROCKVILLE, Md., February 27, 2003) — Phillips Investment Resources, LLC, today announced the launch of Lou Dobbs’ Money Letter. This monthly newsletter will provide readers with unique access to Lou Dobbs’ unparalleled insights, commentary and perspective on the economy and the markets. It will also feature in-depth interviews with top executives, analysts and money managers to help investors succeed through these difficult times.

“Lou Dobbs is a trusted voice and perceptive commentator,” said John J. Coyle, president of Phillips Investment Resources. “As difficult as it has been for investors over the past few years, now more than ever, they need Lou’s insight and ability to give them access to the people who are shaping the economy and the markets. And, most importantly, to get answers to the tough questions that will help them build and protect their wealth.”

“The newsletter gives me the opportunity to help investors in a new, direct and cohesive manner,” commented Dobbs. “I’m thrilled to be able to team up with Phillips Investment Resources. Over the last couple of years investors have been dealt one bad hand after another to the point that their trust in our financial markets has been shattered. I’ve seen firsthand the mistakes that have been made, but I firmly believe the individual investor can avoid the pitfalls and succeed with the right information and perspective. I will do my best to provide both through the Lou Dobbs’ Money Letter.”

more at link…………..
Phillips is a major mover in Repub circles.

They meant that Obama is the first african american who actually has a chance of winning.

rwcole @ 133

They meant that Obama is the first african american who actually has a chance of winning.

Nope

Elliott @ 128

Hmmm. @ 125

Anybody noticing a huge upsurge in MSM reporting on adult-on-kid violence lately? I wonder if the stage is being set for some high-profile accusations.

Hmmm, do you know something we don’t?

Nosir. The lake is just the best place I know of for comparing observations. Is all. It’s a good time to be watchful.

Twain

Oh?

Falafel Billo, Bronze, Silver Medalist, MM is the Gold Medalist…

anwaya @ 124

Elliott @ 14

that sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?

“Morning in America” was one of Ronald Reagan’s ads in his 1984 re-election campaign. It was an extremely effective piece of advertising: it’s one of only two US election ads I can say I recall as distinct artefacts. The other is LBJ’s Countdown. It’s not that I saw them, it’s not that I’m in advertising, and it’s not that I’m a Republican. I’m not even a US citizen. They are both exemplaries of their respective forms of political marketing.

I think that’s a good observation.

rwcole @ 133

They meant that Obama is the first african american who actually has a chance of winning.

I thought of that but I think if Jackson had actually been treated fairly and with respect, he could have come closer to winning than some of the other “credible” candidates that TradMed has tried to cram down my throat over the last 35 years.

Hmmm. @ 135

Elliott @ 128

Hmmm, do you know something we don’t?

Nosir. The lake is just the best place I know of for comparing observations. Is all. It’s a good time to be watchful.

well now I’ll be more atuned to that now that you’ve mentioned your observations.

Sessions now qualifies to wear a scarlet “T”.

dakine

He was a one in a million shot- Obama may be one in ten-

Is the Senate trying to vote on Mukasey tonight? Each side has 1.5 hours left. Cardin up, CSpan2.

rwcole @ 136

Twain
Oh?

Drew Westin, author of Political Brain seminar at Yearlykos said that they will do the same to Obama that was done to Harold Ford Jr…. using the subliminal racism.

You are seeing it over and over again, Obama did not put his hand over his heart — false but out there. Obama’s middle name, the Osoma/Obama slips… they will do it.

rwcole @ 142

dakine

He was a one in a million shot- Obama may be one in ten-

I would concur with those odds…

kiddo has left for his aunty’s place for the night. He was particularly liking of the comments in this post. He said.

lahoma.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 146

kiddo has left for his aunty’s place for the night. He was particularly liking of the comments in this post. He said.

lahoma.

Ok lahoma.

egregious @ 143

Is the Senate trying to vote on Mukasey tonight? Each side has 1.5 hours left. Cardin up, CSpan2.

According to CSPAN-1 commentators, the Senate do expect to vote tonight.

dakine01 @ 139

rwcole @ 133

They meant that Obama is the first african american who actually has a chance of winning.

I thought of that but I think if Jackson had actually been treated fairly and with respect, he could have come closer to winning than some of the other “credible” candidates that TradMed has tried to cram down my throat over the last 35 years.

Could Jackson, had he been nominated, have screwed up the general election campaign any more than Duhkakis did? [debate rape question, looking ridiculous driving a tank, etc.]

Can one of you late nite folks tell ET I got to talk with Diane Benson today, thanks.

rwcole @ 136

Twain

Oh?

I’m afraid that Obama has fallen short of all expectations. I wanted so much for him to do well enough to be at least a VP choice but something happened along the way and I’m not sure why.

egregious @ 150

Can one of you late nite folks tell ET I got to talk with Diane Benson today, thanks.

Sure will… any specific message?

Twain

Have to admit that I haven’t been watching the primary contest closely…Many have commented that Obama comes across a little eggheady and without much fire. I have noticed a bit of that in the little I’ve seen- although what he says makes sense for the most part.

The vote could be within the next few minutes.

rwcole @ 153

Twain

Have to admit that I haven’t been watching the primary contest closely…Many have commented that Obama comes across a little eggheady and without much fire. I have noticed a bit of that in the little I’ve seen- although what he says makes sense for the most part.

Apparently when he makes a speech he sets the crowd on fire, but in the debates he can’t seem to find his feet. I was stunned by that – thought he would be great.

Barbara Boxer speaking on Mukasey now

Isn’t the vote a foregone conclusion?

It just doesn’t seem to matter if Mukasey makes it or not, because the Administration will continue to torture, and he will be powerless no matter what he thinks. He will never, ever, be read into their true crimes, and that goes for anyone else that would hold that position, with the exception of Addington and Fielding.

SunNobility @ 142

I’m not so much supporting Dobbs as I’m agreeing with his belief that both parties have let the American middle-class down and neither party deserves the support of the American people.

Just the latest fucking, via the NYT

WASHINGTON, Nov. 8 — Defying appeals from labor leaders, environmentalists and foes of free-trade, nearly half the Democrats in the House joined today with the Bush administration’s backers to support a trade liberalization agreement with Peru that the White House hopes will lead to the approval of future trade deals.

Nearly half the Democrats.

Guess what. They aren’t all bush-dogs.

The only thing these DLC pukes like Pelosi and Reid will ever understand is a threat to their power.

BOYCOTT THESE DLC PUKES IN ‘08!!

New thread upstairs.

Wikipedia:

“1988 election
Four years later, in 1988, Jackson once again offered himself as a candidate for the Democratic Party presidential nomination. This time, his successes in the past made him a more credible candidate, and he was both better financed and better organized. Although most people did not seem to believe that he had a serious chance at winning, Jackson once again exceeded expectations as he more than doubled his previous results, capturing 6.9 million votes and winning eleven primaries. Briefly, after he won 55% of the vote in the Michigan Democrat caucus, he was considered the frontrunner for the nomination, as he surpassed all the other candidates in total number of pledged delegates.”

ACLU is asking if people would like to have a house party to show Ghosts of Abu Ghraib.

I’m not sure if you need to be a card carrying member or not in order to get the video.

FWIW, Raw Story is reporting that the National Journal’s CongressDaily reported that DiFi “may now be waivering in her support” for retroactive immunity on the telcom issue. She reportedly said: “I did support [immunity] in the intel bill and I’m giving it further thought.” ??

recoveringlurker @ 163

FWIW, Raw Story is reporting that the National Journal’s CongressDaily reported that DiFi “may now be waivering in her support” for retroactive immunity on the telcom issue. She reportedly said: “I did support [immunity] in the intel bill and I’m giving it further thought.” ??

“waiver”, my *ss. wave her through the Phantom Tollbooth on her way to the underworld following her Mukasey antics.

I used to live in the KS 3rd District and have followed Dennis Moore’s career. Given the politics of that district, it is my belief that Rep. Moore is as liberal or progressive a Congressman as the Democrats are likely to elect in that district unless the demographics change substantially. I have not heard of a primary challenge and would be surprised if one occurred.

Word. Stop and think people, we’re talking Kansas here. You remember, that’s the place where Darwinism is replaced by Creationism or Intelligent Design every few years. As a former resident and contributor to Dennis Moore myself, I can tell you that while he might be a Blue Dog Democrat, you sure don’t want to consider what it would be like to have to deal with the person who runs as his Republican opponent in that certifiably conservative district every two years.

I’m as frustrated as the next person with the ineffectiveness of the Democrats since they retook congress, but hating on Dennis Moore when he’s up against the forces he has to run against every two years is ignorant, self-indulgent, and naive.

Mrs. K8 @ 43

OT -

Did you all hear about the tidal surge poised to hit England shortly? 10 feet above normal. The worry is that it’ll be worse than in 1953, when the surge killed 300. It’s in all the UK papers, here’s one:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..orm208.xml

Oops, looks like the surge has hit, at least in Northern mainland Europe –

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6274377.stm

German national rail service suspended, at least 25 reported dead so far.

The tidal increase is a normal patterned “spring tide”. The problem is that it is also linked to a Storm Surge (which isn’t a tidal surge) related to the low pressure system in the area.

It’s the big storm in combination with a once a year high tide that will cause the flooding. But the storm is doing a lot of damage and killing on it’s own. 105mph (170km/h) force winds have nothing to do with the lunar tide cycles and are the things doing the most damage.

smapdi @ 9

What happened to my lupins?

Dennis took ‘em. ;-)

PsychoPink @ 165

I used to live in the KS 3rd District and have followed Dennis Moore’s career. Given the politics of that district, it is my belief that Rep. Moore is as liberal or progressive a Congressman as the Democrats are likely to elect in that district unless the demographics change substantially. I have not heard of a primary challenge and would be surprised if one occurred.

Word. Stop and think people, we’re talking Kansas here. You remember, that’s the place where Darwinism is replaced by Creationism or Intelligent Design every few years. As a former resident and contributor to Dennis Moore myself, I can tell you that while he might be a Blue Dog Democrat, you sure don’t want to consider what it would be like to have to deal with the person who runs as his Republican opponent in that certifiably conservative district every two years.

I’m as frustrated as the next person with the ineffectiveness of the Democrats since they retook congress, but hating on Dennis Moore when he’s up against the forces he has to run against every two years is ignorant, self-indulgent, and naive.

The problem, PP, isn’t that he’s a social conservative in a socially conservative area. (Which is kinda doubtful — I mean, lookit, you’ve got places like Lawrence in the 3rd CD, and Lawrence is a nice college town. But I digress.) The problem is that he’s the lead quisling on behalf of Big Money.

Does it mesh with Kansans’ family values to back a guy who sides with the banks against them?

Tom – Daai Tou Laam @ 40

Dennis Moore was a prime beneficiary of Dr. Dean’s 50 State Strategy in that he faced no serious Republican challenger. The Club for Growth was pumping the money elsewhere, like the Kansas 2nd and the AG race. (Dems carried both, though I expect Rep Boyda will have a big target on her back next year in the KS-2.)

It’d be nice if Rep Moore would return some of the love to Dr. Dean.

Yeah. But he’s apparently been too busy siding with Republicans on pro-money, anti-people bills to care.

Steve-AR @ 96

rwcole @ 80

We’ve got dems in red states or red districts who are pretty damned conservative- but they vote for dem leadership…If ya take em out- ya get a gooper.

Primary challenges, in my opinion, should happen AFTER a substantial majority is achieved and should happen only in places where the odds of a progressive winning are very good.

That is why Darcy Burner put “More” before “Better” when she said we need “more and better dems. I you look at voting records; the worst Dem. Gene Taylor, has a progressive score 20 points higher that the “best Thug” Chris Shays. People who say the Dems and Republicans are all the same are either misguided or Thug trolls.

The problem in Moore’s case is not that he’s a conservative Dem, but that he’s one of the people leading the fight to make Congressional Democrats into corporate-whore Republicans.

In the meantime, it sounds like he could stand hearing from you

He heard from me after his vote on the Move-On condemnation. I pointed out that I’d voted for him every time he ran, but wouldn’t be voting for him again. So far, no response from him or his office.

Like I told him, just being pro-choice isn’t enough any more.