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		<title>By: PhysioProf</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082627</link>
		<dc:creator>PhysioProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you, thank you, thank you!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, thank you, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082614</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1082600&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PhysioProf @ 125&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have been reading this outstanding blog for about a year, and I think I get that there is a race to be the first commenter to a new post. But I can’t for the life of me figure out this “Zed” thing. Can someone please explain?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the old version of the blog software, the comment number adjacent to the first comment in a thread would be “Zero”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1082600"><em>PhysioProf @ 125</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I have been reading this outstanding blog for about a year, and I think I get that there is a race to be the first commenter to a new post. But I can’t for the life of me figure out this “Zed” thing. Can someone please explain?</p>
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<p>In the old version of the blog software, the comment number adjacent to the first comment in a thread would be “Zero”.</p>
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		<title>By: PhysioProf</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082600</link>
		<dc:creator>PhysioProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have been reading this outstanding blog for about a year, and I think I get that there is a race to be the first commenter to a new post. But I can’t for the life of me figure out this “Zed” thing. Can someone please explain?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading this outstanding blog for about a year, and I think I get that there is a race to be the first commenter to a new post. But I can’t for the life of me figure out this “Zed” thing. Can someone please explain?</p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082467</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good thread, Christy; and when Iraq implodes, and the american people get tired of covering george bush and the GOP’s asses by leaving our troops there to referee his civil war, we might ask how the goopers who are shreiking about the “immigration threat” will react to the Muslims trying to avoid being pureed for helping us, as they come here looking for a place to survive?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thread, Christy; and when Iraq implodes, and the american people get tired of covering george bush and the GOP’s asses by leaving our troops there to referee his civil war, we might ask how the goopers who are shreiking about the “immigration threat” will react to the Muslims trying to avoid being pureed for helping us, as they come here looking for a place to survive?</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082330</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The presence of dissident Iraqi immigrants in the USA would make the disaster of the Bush years visible for a generation.  They don’t want an immigrant community as tight as the Cubans in Florida.  They don’t want them here because in silent smoke-filled rooms they’ve identified them as the new race baiting “other”.  They don’t want them here for the same self-serving reason they refuse to give DC residents the vote in federal elections: they won’t vote the Right way.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The consequences of this policy, of course, will be horrible.  The “collaborationists” left behind won’t simply be ostracized and shorn of their hair.  They will greet the prophet and the one God much earlier than planned.  But as Cheney always says, “Why do the right thing when the wrong thing hides my problems so much better?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The presence of dissident Iraqi immigrants in the USA would make the disaster of the Bush years visible for a generation.  They don’t want an immigrant community as tight as the Cubans in Florida.  They don’t want them here because in silent smoke-filled rooms they’ve identified them as the new race baiting “other”.  They don’t want them here for the same self-serving reason they refuse to give DC residents the vote in federal elections: they won’t vote the Right way.  </p>
<p>The consequences of this policy, of course, will be horrible.  The “collaborationists” left behind won’t simply be ostracized and shorn of their hair.  They will greet the prophet and the one God much earlier than planned.  But as Cheney always says, “Why do the right thing when the wrong thing hides my problems so much better?”</p>
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		<title>By: Oklahoma kiddo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082276</link>
		<dc:creator>Oklahoma kiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1082255&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Christy Hardin Smith @ 121&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OKK at 119 — So your answer then would be “Sucks to be the Iraqis trying to negotiate food deals for their fellow citizens or translators trying to prevent more violence in their own neighborhoods.  If they worked wiht the Bush Administration, a pox on their houses.” then?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because that really isn’t in our long-term best interest, nor is it morally defensible, in my opinion.  If you are saying something else, please let me know.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are appear to be talking about oranges. I am pointing to apples. Bringing the folks who feed and care for Iraqis to the U.S. as a result of the Bush murderous escapade is not the issue. I am talking about collaborators who collaborate with the American military. Is this about a communication problem? If not, let’s do it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1082255"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 121</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OKK at 119 — So your answer then would be “Sucks to be the Iraqis trying to negotiate food deals for their fellow citizens or translators trying to prevent more violence in their own neighborhoods.  If they worked wiht the Bush Administration, a pox on their houses.” then?</p>
<p>Because that really isn’t in our long-term best interest, nor is it morally defensible, in my opinion.  If you are saying something else, please let me know.</p>
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<p>You are appear to be talking about oranges. I am pointing to apples. Bringing the folks who feed and care for Iraqis to the U.S. as a result of the Bush murderous escapade is not the issue. I am talking about collaborators who collaborate with the American military. Is this about a communication problem? If not, let’s do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082255</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OKK at 119 — So your answer then would be “Sucks to be the Iraqis trying to negotiate food deals for their fellow citizens or translators trying to prevent more violence in their own neighborhoods.  If they worked wiht the Bush Administration, a pox on their houses.” then?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because that really isn’t in our long-term best interest, nor is it morally defensible, in my opinion.  If you are saying something else, please let me know.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OKK at 119 — So your answer then would be “Sucks to be the Iraqis trying to negotiate food deals for their fellow citizens or translators trying to prevent more violence in their own neighborhoods.  If they worked wiht the Bush Administration, a pox on their houses.” then?</p>
<p>Because that really isn’t in our long-term best interest, nor is it morally defensible, in my opinion.  If you are saying something else, please let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby Wollin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082254</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby Wollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1082240&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 110&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1082237&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Toby Wollin @ 107&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Collaborators with us, with the allies? Those were The Resistance in the various countries. They were heroes and people like Tito ended up as country leaders.&lt;br /&gt;
Collaborators with the Axis? Well, in Paris, as I recall, any woman who collaborted with the Germans had her head shaved and was made to walk naked through the streets with a sign around her neck.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am talking of nazi collaborators.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here you go - seems relatively encyclopedic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pursuit_of_Nazi_collaborators&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.....laborators&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1082240"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 110</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1082237"><em>Toby Wollin @ 107</em></a></p>
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Collaborators with us, with the allies? Those were The Resistance in the various countries. They were heroes and people like Tito ended up as country leaders.<br />
Collaborators with the Axis? Well, in Paris, as I recall, any woman who collaborted with the Germans had her head shaved and was made to walk naked through the streets with a sign around her neck.</p>
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<p>I am talking of nazi collaborators.</p>
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<p>Here you go &#8211; seems relatively encyclopedic.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pursuit_of_Nazi_collaborators">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P&#8230;..laborators</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oklahoma kiddo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082251</link>
		<dc:creator>Oklahoma kiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1082239&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Christy Hardin Smith @ 109&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OKK at 103 — The ones who worked with us were brought here to the US if need be while the conflict was ongoing.  You know, folks in the French Resistence, in Nazi-controlled terrortory resistence movements, etc.  People who work with us are supposed to be taken care of under our protection — that’s how we keep having people work with us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The situation is different. Bush started an illegal war based upon lies. There were no WMD’s. And Bush knew it. World War two was about ethnic cleansing among other things. Like Greenspan said, Iraq was about oil.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1082239"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 109</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OKK at 103 — The ones who worked with us were brought here to the US if need be while the conflict was ongoing.  You know, folks in the French Resistence, in Nazi-controlled terrortory resistence movements, etc.  People who work with us are supposed to be taken care of under our protection — that’s how we keep having people work with us.</p>
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<p>The situation is different. Bush started an illegal war based upon lies. There were no WMD’s. And Bush knew it. World War two was about ethnic cleansing among other things. Like Greenspan said, Iraq was about oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve-AR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/the-debt/#comment-1082250</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve-AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT..&lt;br /&gt;
From Jeralyn:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bernie Kerik Expects Indictment Around Nov. 15
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/11/7/11304/6691&quot;&gt;talkleft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT..<br />
From Jeralyn:</p>
<blockquote><p>Bernie Kerik Expects Indictment Around Nov. 15
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<p><a href="http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/11/7/11304/6691">talkleft</a></p>
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