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		<title>By: Ima</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/techno-pestering-the-senate-judiciary/#comment-1083903</link>
		<dc:creator>Ima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it is important that we support Senator Dodd in his presidential bid.  I know he is a long shot, but he is one of only three candidates (Kucinich and Paul being the others) that are talking seriously about restoring the Constitution and civil liberties.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The longer Dodd stays in the race, the longer these issues will be discussed.  Once he’s gone, we won’t hear about this for the rest of the election cycle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please consider donating even a small amount (chrisdodd.com) to keep him going.  As Blue America has demonstrated, the little amounts add up.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(P.S.  I am  not an employee or volunteer for the Dodd campaign).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is important that we support Senator Dodd in his presidential bid.  I know he is a long shot, but he is one of only three candidates (Kucinich and Paul being the others) that are talking seriously about restoring the Constitution and civil liberties.</p>
<p>The longer Dodd stays in the race, the longer these issues will be discussed.  Once he’s gone, we won’t hear about this for the rest of the election cycle.</p>
<p>Please consider donating even a small amount (chrisdodd.com) to keep him going.  As Blue America has demonstrated, the little amounts add up.  </p>
<p>(P.S.  I am  not an employee or volunteer for the Dodd campaign).</p>
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		<title>By: JALO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/techno-pestering-the-senate-judiciary/#comment-1083825</link>
		<dc:creator>JALO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jeff Spicolli…&lt;br /&gt;
“My old man.. is a television repair man.. he’s got this ultimate set of tools.  I can fix it”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Spicolli…<br />
“My old man.. is a television repair man.. he’s got this ultimate set of tools.  I can fix it”</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/techno-pestering-the-senate-judiciary/#comment-1083131</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The retroactive immunity isn’t for the telecoms…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s for Bush and Cheney!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mark Klein is not alone.  There are many other technicians with knowledge and evidence just like Mark.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are waiting for the “cover up vote” before they expose the extensive corruption.  Then it will be too late for congress.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Watch this vote closely, for those that vote for immunity are voting for the cover up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t be fooled, everyone voting knows full well what they are doing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The retroactive immunity isn’t for the telecoms…</p>
<p>It’s for Bush and Cheney!</p>
<p>Mark Klein is not alone.  There are many other technicians with knowledge and evidence just like Mark.</p>
<p>They are waiting for the “cover up vote” before they expose the extensive corruption.  Then it will be too late for congress.  </p>
<p>Watch this vote closely, for those that vote for immunity are voting for the cover up.</p>
<p>Don’t be fooled, everyone voting knows full well what they are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: KLynn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/techno-pestering-the-senate-judiciary/#comment-1082953</link>
		<dc:creator>KLynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would love to see this done on the question, “Is waterboarding torture?” List the responses as “yes, no or insipid”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to see this done on the question, “Is waterboarding torture?” List the responses as “yes, no or insipid”.</p>
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		<title>By: ralphbon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/techno-pestering-the-senate-judiciary/#comment-1082885</link>
		<dc:creator>ralphbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;FWIW, my email to Senator Schumer:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After your support for Mukasey and your disingenuous attempt at defending such, I don’t even know why I bother. Still, allowing retroactive immunity for telecom companies and allowing nonindividualized (ie, “basket”) eavesdropping warrants would be spectacular blows to civil liberties and Constitutional protections. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So surprise me. Refuse to vote a bill out of SJC that contains these noxious provisions. After which, if necessary, support Chris Dodd’s block and/or filibuster. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Help convince me that my ostensibly Democratic senior senator is not really a closeted member of the Connecticut for Lieberman party.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, my email to Senator Schumer:</p>
<p>After your support for Mukasey and your disingenuous attempt at defending such, I don’t even know why I bother. Still, allowing retroactive immunity for telecom companies and allowing nonindividualized (ie, “basket”) eavesdropping warrants would be spectacular blows to civil liberties and Constitutional protections. </p>
<p>So surprise me. Refuse to vote a bill out of SJC that contains these noxious provisions. After which, if necessary, support Chris Dodd’s block and/or filibuster. </p>
<p>Help convince me that my ostensibly Democratic senior senator is not really a closeted member of the Connecticut for Lieberman party.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;geg6 @ 46.  The staffer Nick may have been thinking. “Hey, Dude, ask me if I care?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Senators aren’t there to do our bidding and their staffers know it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geg6 @ 46.  The staffer Nick may have been thinking. “Hey, Dude, ask me if I care?”</p>
<p>The Senators aren’t there to do our bidding and their staffers know it.</p>
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		<title>By: geg6</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/techno-pestering-the-senate-judiciary/#comment-1082575</link>
		<dc:creator>geg6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just talked to Senator Spector’s office.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His Senate office said they didn’t know what I was talking about and transferred the call to his Judiciary Committee staff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Judiciary Committee staffer first treated me as if I was some sort of scammer calling, but once I identified myself by name, home state, and county and called myself a constituent a couple of times, he finally agreed to answer whatever my question was.  Except, apparently a question about retroactive immunity.  Once I asked for the senator’s position, the guy tried to say my cell was going in and out (um, wasn’t mine, dude, I had 4 bars showing) and then said the senator hadn’t discussed this legislation with his staff and so they couldn’t give me his position.  I then voiced my opposition and, for good measure, mentioned that I was a Democrat who has voted for Spector since he first won the office.  And that I wouldn’t be voting for him again if he voted to give them retroactive immunity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did, though, get the feeling my friend Nick the JC staffer really didn’t give a shit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just talked to Senator Spector’s office.</p>
<p>His Senate office said they didn’t know what I was talking about and transferred the call to his Judiciary Committee staff.</p>
<p>The Judiciary Committee staffer first treated me as if I was some sort of scammer calling, but once I identified myself by name, home state, and county and called myself a constituent a couple of times, he finally agreed to answer whatever my question was.  Except, apparently a question about retroactive immunity.  Once I asked for the senator’s position, the guy tried to say my cell was going in and out (um, wasn’t mine, dude, I had 4 bars showing) and then said the senator hadn’t discussed this legislation with his staff and so they couldn’t give me his position.  I then voiced my opposition and, for good measure, mentioned that I was a Democrat who has voted for Spector since he first won the office.  And that I wouldn’t be voting for him again if he voted to give them retroactive immunity.</p>
<p>I did, though, get the feeling my friend Nick the JC staffer really didn’t give a shit.</p>
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		<title>By: W.R. Chambers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/techno-pestering-the-senate-judiciary/#comment-1082568</link>
		<dc:creator>W.R. Chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Haven’t had a chance to think about the similarities and differences between what Yahoo did in response to the Chinese government’s demand that Yahoo provide information that China then used to find, arrest and imprison two journalists and what the tel-com companies have done. If anyone knows of a link to an article on that topic I would appreciate learning about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I watched the tongue lashing that Yahoo execs received yesterday, I wondered if the U.S. government would ever treat the tel-com execs the same way. Obviously not. That got me to wondering about the similarities between how, when and why China exercises its governmental power and how, when and why the Bush administration exercises its unitary executive power. One thing both governments have in common is a determination to protect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have to get back to work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven’t had a chance to think about the similarities and differences between what Yahoo did in response to the Chinese government’s demand that Yahoo provide information that China then used to find, arrest and imprison two journalists and what the tel-com companies have done. If anyone knows of a link to an article on that topic I would appreciate learning about it.</p>
<p>As I watched the tongue lashing that Yahoo execs received yesterday, I wondered if the U.S. government would ever treat the tel-com execs the same way. Obviously not. That got me to wondering about the similarities between how, when and why China exercises its governmental power and how, when and why the Bush administration exercises its unitary executive power. One thing both governments have in common is a determination to protect.</p>
<p>I have to get back to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/techno-pestering-the-senate-judiciary/#comment-1082552</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1082509&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Biodun @ 35&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1082499&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Peterr @ 31&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was an exchange student in Germany when John Wayne died. They replaced a lot of the scheduled TV shows with old John Wayne Cowboy-and-Indian movies, dubbed into German. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was very odd to listen to John Wayne on his horse riding across the west speaking German, to say nothing of listening to the Indians gathered around their campfires doing the same.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had the exact same experience with John Wayne movies when I was living in France.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Wayne sauntering into a saloon and telling the bartender: “Un whiskey, s’il vous plait.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or he says to the bartender “On couche ensemble (ce soir)?”.&lt;br /&gt;
I only know the important words taught to me by my buddy Jackie, a cordon bleu chef now a desciple of Satya Sai Baba.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Way OT sorry&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1082509"><em>Biodun @ 35</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1082499"><em>Peterr @ 31</em></a></p>
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<p>I was an exchange student in Germany when John Wayne died. They replaced a lot of the scheduled TV shows with old John Wayne Cowboy-and-Indian movies, dubbed into German. </p>
<p>It was very odd to listen to John Wayne on his horse riding across the west speaking German, to say nothing of listening to the Indians gathered around their campfires doing the same.</p>
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<p>I had the exact same experience with John Wayne movies when I was living in France.</p>
<p>John Wayne sauntering into a saloon and telling the bartender: “Un whiskey, s’il vous plait.”</p>
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<p>or he says to the bartender “On couche ensemble (ce soir)?”.<br />
I only know the important words taught to me by my buddy Jackie, a cordon bleu chef now a desciple of Satya Sai Baba.</p>
<p>Way OT sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/techno-pestering-the-senate-judiciary/#comment-1082550</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1082536&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;peony @ 39&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I spoke to Di Fi’s office and was told that the Senator is considering introducing an amendment that will in effect transfer liability to the government and will cap lawsuits at $30,000,000,000.  Well, another piece of redundant legislation as far as the first point.  The telecoms can file a cross-complaint against the US government for indemnification anyway.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Feinstein would be great if her defense of ordinary Americans was anything like her defense of American corporations.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1082536"><em>peony @ 39</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I spoke to Di Fi’s office and was told that the Senator is considering introducing an amendment that will in effect transfer liability to the government and will cap lawsuits at $30,000,000,000.  Well, another piece of redundant legislation as far as the first point.  The telecoms can file a cross-complaint against the US government for indemnification anyway.</p>
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<p>Feinstein would be great if her defense of ordinary Americans was anything like her defense of American corporations.</p>
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