Comments on: Defending Democracy in Pakistan And America http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:52:16 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Devonny http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1083465 Devonny Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:04:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1083465 <p>MY POST:<br /> It is ridiculous that America is caught playing “world police” yet again. The world can easily be compared to a country with several states. This country would also have a government ruling it, but this does not seem to be the case with the world. One might argue that it is a country made up of sovereign states, but when has state sovereignty ever worked? The U.S. keeps becoming the default for fixing other countries’ problems. Does no one understand we are swamped right now? Does no one understand that the world does not need the U.S. playing world police? That what it does need a world government, with representation from every country, even the ones that have “done wrong,” so that effective decisions can be made concerning other countries and issues of world politics. This way the U.S. can start to act like its own problems actually exist and stop pretending they don’t exist in the light of other countries’ problems. This also makes sure that the work of governing the world and preventing bad things from happening in places like Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Darfur, North Korea and Myanmar, among many more.</p> MY POST:
It is ridiculous that America is caught playing “world police” yet again. The world can easily be compared to a country with several states. This country would also have a government ruling it, but this does not seem to be the case with the world. One might argue that it is a country made up of sovereign states, but when has state sovereignty ever worked? The U.S. keeps becoming the default for fixing other countries’ problems. Does no one understand we are swamped right now? Does no one understand that the world does not need the U.S. playing world police? That what it does need a world government, with representation from every country, even the ones that have “done wrong,” so that effective decisions can be made concerning other countries and issues of world politics. This way the U.S. can start to act like its own problems actually exist and stop pretending they don’t exist in the light of other countries’ problems. This also makes sure that the work of governing the world and preventing bad things from happening in places like Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Darfur, North Korea and Myanmar, among many more.

]]> By: flemmo http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082883 flemmo Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:41:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082883 <p>Insightful commentary, Scarecrow.</p> <p>One distinction to make - Weakening democratic institutions and intimidating political opponents” are not the <em>agenda</em> of our pseudoleaders, rather they are two of the foundation <b>principles</b> upon which they build their agenda of distortion and misdirection that enables them to get us involved in ridiculously misdguided actions such as the Iraq “war” which is a manifestation of the “terra” 24/7 smokescreen. </p> <p><em></em></p> Insightful commentary, Scarecrow.

One distinction to make – Weakening democratic institutions and intimidating political opponents” are not the agenda of our pseudoleaders, rather they are two of the foundation principles upon which they build their agenda of distortion and misdirection that enables them to get us involved in ridiculously misdguided actions such as the Iraq “war” which is a manifestation of the “terra” 24/7 smokescreen.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082756 selise Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:27:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082756 <p>on the other hand - i’m thinking of using the 160 i already have - if i replace it with a 500 in the lacie d2 enclosure. that hd is already several years old (5?). if it and my imac can last another year, that would be pretty good for both of them.</p> <p>on my third hand… i’m really tempted to just get the <a href="http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10922">lacie 1T</a> .. and then decide later if i want to do the hd swap… (except that you cautioned about the dual drive configuration).</p> <p>sigh. i went through this last time (the indecision of not knowing enough to make a good decision) and finally said “f*** it” and just bought the maxtor… which seems fine, except for the inconvenient form factor.</p> on the other hand – i’m thinking of using the 160 i already have – if i replace it with a 500 in the lacie d2 enclosure. that hd is already several years old (5?). if it and my imac can last another year, that would be pretty good for both of them.

on my third hand… i’m really tempted to just get the lacie 1T .. and then decide later if i want to do the hd swap… (except that you cautioned about the dual drive configuration).

sigh. i went through this last time (the indecision of not knowing enough to make a good decision) and finally said “f*** it” and just bought the maxtor… which seems fine, except for the inconvenient form factor.

]]> By: Ilovethedalailama http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082688 Ilovethedalailama Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:45:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082688 <p>Thanks, Scarecrow. Good words.<br /> I like your idea of the Long March from Philadelphia to DC. Could be a tool we’ll have to utilize in the not-too-distant future, along with General Strike to brings these born again cretins to their knees. I think we should begin to develop these as our own In Case of Emergency: March on Washington (weapons of peace).</p> <p>Let’s discuss it more often. Raise the subject in all of your threads if nec.<br /> best,<br /> Owen</p> Thanks, Scarecrow. Good words.
I like your idea of the Long March from Philadelphia to DC. Could be a tool we’ll have to utilize in the not-too-distant future, along with General Strike to brings these born again cretins to their knees. I think we should begin to develop these as our own In Case of Emergency: March on Washington (weapons of peace).

Let’s discuss it more often. Raise the subject in all of your threads if nec.
best,
Owen

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082663 selise Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:28:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082663 <p><a href="#comment-1082652"><em>newtonusr @ 126</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>cool. rethinking your decision to put huge drive in iMac…<br /> All Mac drives are now SATA, not ATA like the one you are considering. When the iMac bails, the drive won’t go in a future machine…</p></blockquote> <p>i was reading through a take apart guide this afternoon and having second thoughts too! *g*</p> newtonusr @ 126

cool. rethinking your decision to put huge drive in iMac…
All Mac drives are now SATA, not ATA like the one you are considering. When the iMac bails, the drive won’t go in a future machine…

i was reading through a take apart guide this afternoon and having second thoughts too! *g*

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082652 newtonusr Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:22:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082652 <p>cool. rethinking your decision to put huge drive in iMac…<br /> All Mac drives are now SATA, not ATA like the one you are considering. When the iMac bails, the drive won’t go in a future machine…</p> cool. rethinking your decision to put huge drive in iMac…
All Mac drives are now SATA, not ATA like the one you are considering. When the iMac bails, the drive won’t go in a future machine…

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082633 selise Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:10:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082633 <p><a href="#comment-1082346"><em>newtonusr @ 123</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>selise - you hanging around a bit?<br /> I have a tech update for you…</p></blockquote> <p>sorry for the belated response… will check back here for you and/or the current thread…</p> newtonusr @ 123

selise – you hanging around a bit?
I have a tech update for you…

sorry for the belated response… will check back here for you and/or the current thread…

]]> By: HAZmaq http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082440 HAZmaq Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:00:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082440 <p>This is just another part of the most bizarre f#@! ups in American foreign policy imaginable.<br /> Under the control of not only the Right but with the aid of narrow-minded, racist, pocket driven Democrats, most of whom care little for the suffering of others and feel no need to travel to know what’s really going on in the rest of the world, this group thinks only to immediate personal gains -and never toward a future vision. </p> <p>Have you heard anything much -here- about the dictatorial policies of India?? Well you better start. This is another ‘ally’ with some serious problems in the ‘democracy’ category.<br /> Not to mention they take Senator Inhofe’s position on climate change. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/story/0,,2201351,00.html">http://www.guardian.co.uk/indi.....51,00.html</a></p> <p>Congress and the media need to wake up -see the world as a whole - and quit protecting countries like India, Israel, Saudi Arabia etc.. </p> <p>India is in almost exactly the same position as China, with massive humanitarian problems and a negligent monarchy. Not to mention many of their products have lead in them as well.</p> <p>There’s big trouble brewing there, as there was once before -and it has just as much chance of exploding as Pakistan is now doing.</p> <p>14 months more of this gang at the helm -SHIT!</p> This is just another part of the most bizarre f#@! ups in American foreign policy imaginable.
Under the control of not only the Right but with the aid of narrow-minded, racist, pocket driven Democrats, most of whom care little for the suffering of others and feel no need to travel to know what’s really going on in the rest of the world, this group thinks only to immediate personal gains -and never toward a future vision.

Have you heard anything much -here- about the dictatorial policies of India?? Well you better start. This is another ‘ally’ with some serious problems in the ‘democracy’ category.
Not to mention they take Senator Inhofe’s position on climate change. http://www.guardian.co.uk/indi…..51,00.html

Congress and the media need to wake up -see the world as a whole – and quit protecting countries like India, Israel, Saudi Arabia etc..

India is in almost exactly the same position as China, with massive humanitarian problems and a negligent monarchy. Not to mention many of their products have lead in them as well.

There’s big trouble brewing there, as there was once before -and it has just as much chance of exploding as Pakistan is now doing.

14 months more of this gang at the helm -SHIT!

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082346 newtonusr Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:02:16 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082346 <p>selise - you hanging around a bit?<br /> I have a tech update for you…</p> selise – you hanging around a bit?
I have a tech update for you…

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082344 selise Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:00:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/07/defending-democracy-in-pakistan-and-america/#comment-1082344 <p><a href="#comment-1082114"><em>Scarecrow @ 107</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>If this is your “grump” we’re in great shape. As Digby often says, “there’s a reason we’re all so angry at the Republicans,” and it’s not because we’re just grumpy or DFHs.</p></blockquote> <p>but it’s not your fault i’m pissed off at <em>both</em> the republican and the democratic political leaders… or that i’m exhausted from lack of sleep. will try to do better tommorrow.</p> Scarecrow @ 107

If this is your “grump” we’re in great shape. As Digby often says, “there’s a reason we’re all so angry at the Republicans,” and it’s not because we’re just grumpy or DFHs.

but it’s not your fault i’m pissed off at both the republican and the democratic political leaders… or that i’m exhausted from lack of sleep. will try to do better tommorrow.

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