Something truly terrifying is happening over at Sadly, No! In a move that is being described by some as deeply courageous and by others as “totally the kind of thing that dorkwad Gavin would do”, blogger Gavin M is girding his loins for battle with a fearsome wingnut troll. He has done what so many of us in Lefty Blogistan would assuredly balk at. He has decided that in this circumstance, the only way to fight monsters is…to become one himself!
We had decided that in order to beat the execrable PJ, we would need to make his powers our own. I volunteered to become as thoughtless, as single-minded as he, as lacking in self-reflection and personal honor, as feckless and as immune to shame. I would howl mindlessly, fungally in the frigid vastness of space, chanting noisome hymns to my mad, deaf idiot-king, and gibbering streams of imprecations unto the planet called Earth.
I volunteered to eat of their lotus and become a wingnut.
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Following in the footsteps of Steve of the blog The Sneeze in his series, Steve, Don’t Eat It! (a hilarious, if stomach-turning series of adventures starring Steve and several utterly disgusting foodstuffs including “potted meat”, chocolate breast milk, and canned insect larvae), Gavin has procured two separate kinds of Cheetos and several liters of Mountain Dew “Game Fuel”, enlisted the aid of a doctor, and plunged headlong into the abyss.
From Part Two of this ground-breaking, courageous three-part series:
In the first installment, we explained why we had to risk this experiment.
A wingnut has formidable powers. Equal to any intellectual or moral challenge, he prevails through wrongness and bwaa-haaing. Attacks on him are turned magically against the attacker, or against a hapless bystander. He doesn’t get embarrassed or feel shame, or have to exercise or change his clothes like regular people. If a woman, he is protected from ridicule by hordes of angry male wingnuts; if a man, protected from sexual interest by an aroma of feet and hot dogs. The male’s characteristic face mullet isolates the mouth from the rest of the visage, giving the effect of a ventriloquist’s dummy where the ventriloquist is any of several AM talk-radio personalities or Daws Butler characters. While physical attacks are -3, spells such as Befuddle and Whine at Unfairness are 9 and above to hit, 5d4 damage…
Clearly the toxic cocktail of Wingnut foodstuffs had already begun to take hold because that last sentence is completely unintelligible to normal men. What does the doctor say?
Subject is displaying increased agitation and a propensity to pore over news sources, questioning the veracity of every photograph and news item. Subject’s clothing has been soiled with orange residue, and is emitting the odor of perspiration mingled with Axe body spray. Scores on the Treviño Integrity Inventory are beginning to decline, and intelligence as measured by the Noonan Aptitude Test is suffering as well. A Horowitz Assessment of blame transference was planned, but given the current condition of the subject, this may be unadvisable due to the risk to others. Subject will be closely monitored for further degeneration.
And degenerate he assuredly will. Before we know it, he’s going to look like this:
(Fig 1-B: Jeff Goldblum in “The Fly”)
Courage, Gavin! We’ll all be waiting on pins and needles for Part Three.
God, I hope the process is reversible. Otherwise, we might have to take the poor sumbitch out behind the barn and put a bullet in him like Old Yeller. The world already has one Steven Den Beste, and frankly, that’s one too many.
Some cynics would argue that this whole thing is a stunt engineered to put Sadly, No! over the top as “Funniest Blog” in the 2007 Weblog Awards. Oh, ye of little faith. Why would anyone undergo such a hideous transformation just for the sake of winning some silly award?
Just in case, though, you know what to do.



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TRex!!!
Hail, muse TRex!
TRex!!
Congrats, neuro. Nice shot.
Now go tell the others we’re here.
TREX, I’m already a reformed republican – am I exempt from having to do it again?
g’evening pups
Wild Women don’t get the blues but fast women have DSL – waving goodby to dialup baby!
Suzanne @ 5
Congratulations, Suz! Welcome to the, uh, late 20th century!
Evening all. A truly disturbing tale from the crew at Sadly, No!, which I have been following closely. I fear that this can only end badly.
Good evening all!
TRex @ 6
I always have been a late bloomer.
Suzanne @ 5
Congrats on the upgrade. Ain’t life grand in the fast lane?
Those Below have been informed.
Suzanne @ 5
w00t! My then 5 year old shamed my mom into getting DSL. Every visit he would sit at the computer waiting for a site to load, sigh heavily, and remind his granny how horribly slow dial-up was.
Suz, you are so going to love broadband!
LoudounLib @ 13
Newton helped me find a DSL that does not have a one year term contract – so i’m good when the house sells (if the house sells)
I am worried about Gavin.
What if he’s, like, a legume forever?!
I fear that Suzanne’s Iron Hand of discipline will move even more swiftly now that she has DSL.
Of course, some, like CTuttle, might like that…
TRex @ 15
TRex, if I can recover, so can Gavin.
TRex @ 15
Hopefully he’s pre-medicated with antioxidants…
Hey-nah… how’s everyone tonight?
OldCoastie @ 19
fast
OldCoastie @ 19
Better now that you’re here.
How was your day, honey?
TRex @ 15
I do worry that the effects of a steady diet of Cheetos and Mountain Dew may not be reversible. It truly would be a tragic loss to humanity and the progressive blogosphere. On the other hand he would indeed be duly armored to smite the Freepi within their own domain.
On a brighter note, Sadly, No! is currently kicking ass in the weblog awards.
madmommy @ 12
Clue-in, Granny! Bwhahaha… ;-)
I’m so disgusted with what happened today that I couldn’t bear to hear any more news or public affairs programming while driving home. I was so desperate to hear an actual human voice saying things that wouldn’t make me hurl, I actually listened to the fourth quarter of a Clippers game.
It is truly bad, my fellow pups.
neurophius @ 16
Heh, She could cuff me in real time… :P
DrDick @ 22
I just clicked through to vote and the dummy funny guy has a huge lead over all others. Somewhere there’s a run on Cheetos and Mt. Dew.
(((((((Trex!)))))))
If Steve wants to have the full experience of being a wing-nut, he’ll have to wear astronaut diapers while he blogs.
burnspbesq @ 24
I take it you are referring to the Congressional surrender of the constitution to the Bushevik barbarians.
CTuttle @ 25
my arms are not as long as they were when i was the long arm of the law ct
TRex @ 21
full of hilarious kids… today we worked on writing interesting sentences – “don’t bore me!” and if you make me laugh, a prize for you!
and Suzanne, I like your new style! fast is way funner…
Gavin has gone to Mordor. When he returns to the Shire, he will not be who he was before.
Meddling Mother Of The Bride Update:
The winning gown
madmommy @ 26
Nuh-uh. Sadly, No! currently holds over 50% of the vote (names are below the bars showing their stats). DUmFuck only has 21%.
DrDick @ 28
That would be one way to describe it.
Suzanne @ 29
Not 2,500 miles long? By the way it snowed last nite…
Suzanne @ 32
Wooo-Hoo! Sexy and elegant.
burnspbesq @ 31
but he’ll still have those big hairy feet, won’t he?
Suzanne @ 32
Oooohhhh! I like the subtle bling on the bodice, but the thought of doing up all those buttons makes my hands cramp up. I thought she wasn’t going to let you post pics yet?
Suzanne @ 32
Sigh…that is gorgeous.
DrDick @ 36
I agree…
Gavin will need lots of brain bleach to counter the effects of the kool-aid.
DrDick @ 33
Well big slap upside the head for me. I blame it on the screeching migraine behind my left eye. Yeah, that’s why!
madmommy @ 38
She’s not in that pic
Suzanne @ 41
I think we are going to need a tanker ship load of super industrial strength for this job.
Suzanne @ 32
Gorgeous! She will look stunning, I’m sure. Lucky mom you are.
darkblack is my usual supplier – i’ll ask for an extra large, extra strong shipment
Suzanne, did you remember the name or did you eventually get it out of Jen?
G’d evenin’ snarkpuppies.
Looks like things are getting itchy in Pakistan: Third town in Swat falls to militants
Suzanne @ 43
I mis-remembered that she didn’t want anyone to see what the dress looked like, so as to elicit the oohs and aahs when she makes her appearance on the big day.
persiflage @ 47
I asked – she musta been tired.
OT: Snarlin’ Arlen in the SJC Mukasey confirmation hearing re-air (CSPAN-1) is making me… well, there are just no words for what Snarlin’ Arlen is making me.
Striking real fear into the wing-nuts..the Ky elections..
link
Suzanne @ 50
Hee hee – Mom always wins!
Suzanne @ 50
sure… take advantage of the weak and fatigued!
;-)
madmommy @ 49
pretty safe bet that those seeing her when she makes her entrance are not here tonight reading the lake
Steve-AR @ 52
Dang…and they dug up Pat Boone and everything!
Kevin Hayden @ 48
rut roh
Steve-AR @ 52
Suzanne @ 55
Most likely true…but you never know who might be lurking ;0)
madmommy @ 56
I’m sure he will be glad to get back to his coffin now that it is over.
madmommy @ 59
Yeah. Checking up on what kinds of immoral and treasonous activities you are up to. ;~)
Suzanne, you get a 10.0 for that meddling!
Speaking of rut roh, has anybody seen this news about Facebook:
The Facebook free ride is over as the social network now seeks to turn its 50-million-strong user base into an army of viral marketers. The whole thing is here
what are the repigs to do when they can no longer bait using teh gays?
radiofreewill @ 62
smiling movie star smile – if you like that, just wait – the wedding is only 7 months away and i’ve got a lot more up my sleeves (laughing evil laugh) teach her to make me promise that my mother of the bride gown would not be tie-dye
Democrats take back the Senate in Virginia and, thankfully, Jeanmarie Devolites Davis LOST tonight
link
Speaking of “usual suppliers,” did anyone else sort of freak out when they saw this little zinger in this morning’s LA Times?
::waves drowsily:: Hi, y’all. I’m only here for a few minutes, but I figured that I’d surface for a short bit.
I’ve had a HELL of a day and the week doesn’t seem on its way to being any better.
The creation of Dr. Frankenstein was to defy nature. The transformation into to a wingnut is to insult the Universe itself.
persiflage @ 53
I just love it when I can tell my Dearie, ‘Mother’s Revenge!’ Which is growing more frequent, with my daughter’s 16th fast approaching…! *g*
Hmmm. @ 51
There are plenty of words:
vomit
puke
hurl
toss one’s cookies
Technicolor yawn
worship the porcelain god(ess)
Steve-AR @ 66
Steve, you beat me to it — was just about to crow about that race, even though it’s not in my district *g*
Steve-AR @ 66
Extra Cool!!!
Steve-AR @ 66
Celebrate
Totally OT:
I have a sudden and unaccountable craving for the green apples that grew on the tree outside my grandmother’s kitchen.
Sigh.
Do those of you whose grandmothers have gone on ever get seized by acute pangs of missing-them-ness?
Shewiff Cawona decided to take a 60-day leave of absence while he fights his Federal indictment.
I thought I heard somewhere that he can’t be recalled. That can’t be right, can it? Any experts on California local government law out there?
Talk about being politically screwed … even the Orange County Register is calling for his resignation. I doesn’t get any worse than that for a Republican.
I sure hope this outcomes makes Tom decide to retire, the better his district to fall into Democratic hands.
Let them go earn their lobbying money honestly for a change…
OldCoastie @ 64
That was only a sideline to their old standby, “the Southern Strategy”. I’m sure they can find some other group to demonize as well as teh brown people.
TRex @ 75
oh yeah
Hey, evening, all! Unwinding here at home. Marvelling at how fast Suzanne is zipping about. You mean you did all that mod stuff on dialup?
*thud*
:-) Watching old Dr Who eps here. Best way to get out of the funk of watching all the clustery goodness going on today :-P
LoudounLib @ 72
Why not the Va. House, too?
burnspbesq @ 76
Local officials in California can be recalled; that sounds like wingnut disinfo to me.
TRex @ 75
Oh, yes. I can still remember how my Grandma’s house smelled on a Sunday around dinnertime.
What a buncha shit, not even a slot for the kewt kitty thingie and burgers place . . . or watertigers, or or or or or or . . .
Suz, in my early teens, ‘66 to start, fast women and slow cars were SO desirable . . . somehow, they still are . . *G*
TRex . . . funny just ain’t what it used to be anymore . . . in fact, funny is sadly lacking, and them blog choices is proof of that.
Jim Cary, fart jokes and general MSM humor anymore just ain’t funny no mo.
Pull my finger.
Who was that masked mod?
zzzzzzip !!
burnspbesq @ 76
That doesn’t sound right to me, but I don’t think we want him recalled, or replaced just yet. The OC Board of Supervisers, with ol’ Moorlach having a hand in his replacement? Kids in a candy store.
TeddySanFran @ 82
It is the OC, right? ;-)
Good evening dear friends.
Been another fast-food kind of an evening at this Tex home. Anyone care to join?
veggie soup & french fries
CT, in the VA house we’re not getting such quick results tonight — my guy, Poisson (the incumbent) is lagging a bit, but with only 9% reporting in so far it’s all up in the air. The good news is that the three-way race for sheriff here appears to be leaning towards the incumbent, and away from the “I hate brown people” Rethug candidate.
burnspbesq @ 76
another member of the organized Repug crime group… the OC repugs are just very, very sorry he was so blatant about it…
don’t know about the recall, but I’m sure the possible lack of it suits Mikey just fine… piece ‘o work, that guy…
TRex @ 75
My granny made fried chicken, rice, biscuits and gravy to die for. And considering the fat and cholesterol levels of that particular dinner, death was certainly a possibility. Still, totally worth it. I’ve tried to make it myself but it’s not the same. I thnk it’s the cast iron pan she used. The cast iron pan that is in the house with the rest of her stuff that we can’t get because of the shitheel she married shortly before her death. Sigh.
peanutbutter @ 80
yeap
Suzanne! high speed internet! halleluya
Hey –Kentucky has a new gov- a dem- don’t that beat all?
CTuttle @ 87
Yup.
“Tell me, Shewiff. Is it twoo how your people are … bribed? Oh, it’s twoo, it’s twoo!”
TeddySanFran @ 79
And coconut cake and chicken ‘n dumplings. Miss her every day.
burnspbesq @ 67
Hardly surprising. As long as the profit margins remain as astronomically high as they are now, the cartels have every incentive to invest whatever it takes to move their product to market (and the US and Western Europe are the major markets). Just one more sign that the “War on Drugs” is as big a farce as the “War on Terrrr”(TM). Best way to destroy the current drug trade would be to legalize and regulate it. Think there would be a big rush into the market if heroine brought the price of aspirin (which is about the actual cost of manufacture IIRC)?
TRex one of the most powerful memories of my adult life came when I borrowed hand cream from a friend one afternoon and the aroma brought memories of my grandmother flooding back. My hands smelled like hers for hours. It was lovely.
TexBetsy @ 92
Praise the Lard – I got me some Pig streaming now!
TRex @ 15
Jack On The Bean Stalk? Is EVERYTHING about sex with you people? *G*
TRex @ 75
absolutely… had a little Italian gramma who was a fabulous cook and thought I was just the best little thing ever… she’d pinch my skinny cheeks and set about trying to fatten me up.
How’s it feel there Suzanne? The YouToobz are calling out to you…
Congrats!
LoudounLib @ 88
Mahalo, Ma’am! The link stated a one seat pickup in the House race but, showed a Repug majority…
burnspbesq @ 71
And those just cover the initial reaction.
TexBetsy @ 97
Was it Jergens? My grandma used that, and it definitely evokes memories.
neurophius @ 16
In . . .Yer . . . Endo . . . I’ve seen psychiatrists who werent’ couched that well . . . . killin me . . . ‘_
LoudounLib @ 72
Hey LL, I was just reading tonight that Loudoun was seen as increasingly up for grabs with massive defections from the Rethugs.
TexBetsy @ 98
Isn’t it funny how smells can completely take you back in time? The smell of pipe tobacco still puts me back on the front porch looking at stars with my poppa and he’s been dead over 20 years.
AH..a story about the “real” Ron Paul
Open Left
Seems to be a little chaos in red state land.
Hey DrD, right you are. Loudoun seems to be blazing a trail in trying to turn VA blue-ish, at least around these parts.
newtonusr @ 101
newt, you were such a big help
standing on chair clapping
newtonusr did all the research and held my hand so i could get DSL
Suzanne @ 5
Hurray!! Speed be with you, Suz!
Suzanne @ 110
Yay!
TRex @ 75
One grandmother and the other grandfather in particular.
Three cheers for newton!
I promised newtonusr that I would expand on a comment I made on an earlier thread about why the tax law change that is causing Idiot-Boy to threaten to veto the farm bill is a Bad Idea. I can just as easily do that by email, and avoid subjecting all of you fine people to Tax Policy Geekery at its worst. Unless, of course, y’all are dying to know about Economic Substance … which is not anything at all like a controlled substance.
Suzanne @ 112
And had nothing whatsoever to do with the install. All you, take a bow.
Suzanne is the “Complete Moderator”, you see…
Suzanne @ 20
And loose . . .
Broadband is like hiking n the mountains with a girlfriend wearing a summer dress . . . everything blows up and is exciting!!! *G*
Congrats Suz, on the upgrade . . . I remember MY first time . . ;-)
nice job, newt!
burnspbesq @ 117
Hey – it’s Late Nite. Let’er rip…
*stepping on TRex’s claws…*
The public will be calling for me at around 0630 tomorrow, so it’s time to split. Good night all!
TRex @ 75
I wish I had those pangs. I never knew any of my grandparents, two were in Heaven before I was born, one died when I was 5 and the other when I was 10. I see the relationship people have/had with their grandparents and I feel the loss.
Hey, ouch!
RAAAAAAAAAAAHHHRRRRRRRR!!!
Good night LL!
McConnel below 50 percent in re-election polling…not good the slugs in gooperville
sleep well LL
TRex @ 122
rut roh
OT – My “Alma Mater,” UC Berkeley, is calling alums to drum up money. I finally answered one of their calls, and for the second time, said I would never consider donating as long as John Yoo was on the faculty. The young lady said yes, they’d heard this before, but the law school was doing so many good things to offset this. She actually said a number of people had brought his presence up as a negative. I repeated that as long as he was there, Berkeley would get nothing from me, and you could almost hear the sigh as she hung up. Any Berkeley alums out there? Hammer on this.
Suzanne @ 32
Vdey beautiful. What kind of venue for the wedding?
Aloha, LL!
rwcole @ 124
Miss McConnell should take some comfort with the fact that “gay bashing” didn’t seem to have an effect on the election.
PB- Which episode?
Suzanne,
You should have kept the dsl on the down low, now we know, and you have years worth of youtubes to catch up on.
There will be a quiz.
burnspbesq @ 115
I’d be interested. I tend to think I understand some of the issues; be interested to see if do or not :-O
Night LL. Sleep well.
Loo Hoo. @ 128
fancy smancy hotel – late afternoon wedding outside in the garden and reception in the ball room
check out the headline:
The Republican Party’s Worst Nightmare
from ABC News: Top Stories
The interior Western states are growing more Democratic.
smapdi @ 131
Invasion!
smapdi @ 133
A whole bunch…!!! :P
rwcole @ 126
The heck with McConnell — I’m jonesing for Kentucky’s other Senator. I’ve hated Jim Bunning since Father’s Day, 1964 when he [edited to avoid violating Suzanne’s ban on baseball talk].
peanutbutter @ 134
Me, I figure I will have to print it out and spend a week pouring over it.
Suzanne @ 112
(strewing Newton’s path with rose petals). Well done sir!
peanutbutter @ 138
Guessing, not googling, cybermen right?
Authorities have reported a decline in violence in October. Nonetheless, 2007 has been the deadliest year overall for U.S. military forces in Iraq. Sixty percent favor withdrawing U.S. forces, a new high (by a scant 2 points from September), while just 9 percent favor increasing troop levels, matching the low set in December 2005. At the same time, relatively few, 17 percent, favor an immediate withdrawal of all U.S. forces, matching its average in polls since 2006.
Heading home, gang.
See you in a bit.
*rubbing sore stepped-on claws*
jb @ 129
Yoo has tenure. Only way he loses his job is if he trades grades for sexual favors.
Jeez Louise I just went out for a smoke and it is 45 degrees and windy! Feels much colder, must be the front comming through a bit early.
TRex @ 143
i fear newton will feel the wrath of the tail when the big guy gets his bruised claws home
burnspbesq @ 144
or gets arrested for war crimes against humanity
rwcole @ 144
F*ck, lets start leaving then… *g*
Steve-AR @ 66
the shape of things to come…
madmommy @ 145
We got it this morning. Wind finally died down around 7 pm.
madmommy @ 147
Hey, it snowed here, already!
TRex @ 75
Used to, all the time. Better for a long time. But it’s been back a bit lately.
Hmmm.
Loo Hoo. @ 149
From you lips to the ears of the gods.
smapdi @ 141
Yup. Early: Troughton years.
CTuttle @ 151
Where is here?
CTuttle @ 153
I saw the pic last thread. So cool to be enjoying the balmy breezes and seeing snowy peaks in the distance. I love snow in theory, not so much in real life.
Suzanne @ 148
Hurry Burns! I have a train to catch!
Liss @ 68
Perfect. Following Burns’ link about submarines…you surfacing and all.
No such thing as global warming my tushkie. Spose they would say to just ignore all that snow in CT’s Hawaii – its just a fluke.
persiflage @ 123
I was really fortunate in knowing all of my grandparents and one of my great grandfathers. All but one of my grandparents lived until I was an adult.
Steve-AR @ 157
Hilo, Hawaii! A Kona Low just dumped a bunch of snow a top of Mauna Kea!
DrDick @ 162
Great picture! I have one of my poppa (b. 1903)in a buggy, and he’s wearing a dress!
LOOKS AS IF GW Clusterfuck is gonna be the first president to be responsible for $100 per barrel oil–what was it when he came into office? $25?
DrDick @ 161
I knew 2 of my great-grandparents and it is a memory I truly treasure.
TRex @ 75
Yes, totally. I think the sense of smell is the strongest memory link. Bake some of those green apples and see what you remember, TRex.
DrDick @ 104
It was more like deeply sad. Almost hopeless: Have we at long last come no farther than this?
Suzanne @ 149
I think that qualifies as “moral turpitude” (which is the usual clause in faculty contracts).
My dad, who I miss every day.
madmommy @ 158
Don’t move to Montana (though even here, it ain’t what is used to be).
TeddySanFran @ 82
Hell, Gray Davis was recalled. (Thank you once again, Mr. Issa)
DrDick @ 169
Heh, a tad understated, if I might add… ;-)
burnspbesq @ 76
“Ooh you little naughty one, dirty one.
Well now you gonna get some tiiiime, Carona?
Ooh you make those voters run, electric stun
Guns for your Minutemen, slime Carona
Were ya gonna stop, give it up.
Such a corrupt mind. Always give jobs for the cash
of the greener kind. Mike mike mike iiii John Yoo. M M M Mike Carona…”
DrDick @ 171
I lived in Telluride for a few years. Snow is fun for a while, but when you’re trying to figure out which lump is your car and it is April the fun wears off some. Gotta take the kiddos to snow at some point, they have no idea.
madmommy @ 164
I’ll have to scan and post the picture of my granny (b. 1904) on a motorcycle in 1918.
cinnamonape @ 174
You’d make Weird Al proud…
rwcole @ 144
When they can include non-US casualties in those tallies and still say it’s down, then I’ll start to be impressed. My understanding is that US casualties are down largely because the US has pulled people off the streets and switched over to air strikes, which kill and injure way, way more people on the ground.
newtonusr @ 141
OK, y’all asked for it …
In order to make the farm bill revenue-neutral, Congress had to come up with about $12 billion of new tax revenue. One of the things they chose to do in order to come up with that revenue goes by the name of “codification of the economic substance doctrine.” In broad overview, this involves inserting a new provision in the Internal Revenue Code that replaces a body of judge-made law on whether certain transactions (typically tax-shelter type transactions designed to generate losses that can be used to offset an economic gain) should be respected for tax purposes.
Economic substance (and its cousins, Sham, Substance-Over-Form, and Step Transaction) are judicially created doctrines that evolved over time as anti-abuse rules. The gist of the economic substance rule is that a transaction, that appears to satisfy all of the requirements of a particular Internal Revenue Code provision in order to achieve some result, will not be given effect unless there is some meaningful change in the economic circumstances of the parties to the transaction. There is a famous quote from a Supreme Court case from the 1940s (whose name is escaping me right now) that says that “the simple expedient of drawing up papers” isn’t enough to get the desired result.
Famous Supreme Court cases on economic substance include Gregory, Culbertson, and Frank Lyon Co.
CTuttle @ 161
The last ex-wife went to college and med-school at UH. I remember her saying that they used use cafeteria trays and “Ski” Mauna Kea.
DrDick @ 161
How lucky you were! I was fortunate that my uncle and aunt lived 2 houses away and her mother lived with them. She was everything you could want in a grandmother so I adopted her. I don’t think my cousins minded too much.
madmommy @ 173
We moved to TX when texteen was 4. he could not understand why we were leaving the sled at grandma’s house.
My grandpa has passed and the farm has been sold but I still miss sitting on the stairs leading down to the kitchen where grandma was cooking breakfast on the wood fired cast iron stove. Grandma is almost 94 and still kicking up her heels – just at an assisted living complex now.
DrDick @ 176
Quite scandalous in her day, sounds like!
TRex @ 75
My Irish granny and I used to take road trips when I was twelve and so — we used to get motels with the beds with “magic fingers.” She was something else, a sprite with wanderlust.
Steve-AR @ 178
ski or sled?
burnspbesq @ 76
I don’t see why not? There was an effort to recall LA County Sherriff Baca over his “favoritism” regarding celebrity jsilbirds like Nicole Richie and Paris Hilton.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertai…..id=3527416
madmommy @ 185
Yep. And still had some life in her in her late 70s, until Alzheimer’s took it all away (and eventually her as well).
Steve-AR @ 180
Yep, with it’s pineapple sized corn powder, and the fact ya have to hike up to ski down, makes for a booming ski resort industry… 8-)
TexBetsy @ 182
It actually snowed here the Christmas before Katrina. Not much, but the big kid and his much older cousins had a snowball fight at mawmaw’s house. He still talks about it like it will snow every year.
TexBetsy @ 184
Probably toboggan would be the most accurate term but she had several “Ski Mauna Kea” tee-shirts.
DrDick @ 188
Same thing with my granny, she was gone for two years before she actually passed. She only responded to my aunt, because she though that my aunt was her baby sister.
rwcole @ 165
Oil passes $98 on bombs, demand forecast
madmommy @ 193
My granny was the same. Went mercifully quick after the mind went. In her last year she could not even recognize my father, her oldest son. Really tore him up.
CTuttle @ 187
What ever it was, after she moved back to the mainland, she became a fanatical skier.
neokneme @ 191
I finally have a car after not having one for almost a year – and now i won’t be able to afford gas for it.
rwcole @ 165
Adjusted for inflation, $100.28 is the old high. I’m perdicting a peak of $119 pretty soon, followed by another bubble collapse.
Suzanne @ 194
but with high speed internet, why do you need to leave the house?
Suzanne @ 194
An old Caddy??
neokneme @ 193
I seem to recall a sweatered JC, Fireside chats…
Suzanne @ 32
Soft and classic. Lovely!
Tis a very nice small 4 door subcompact that gets great gas milage, steve-ar.
tex, its trunk holds more groceries than my backpack does – and the grocery stores up here don’t deliver internet orders – yet.
Oops — hit the wrong button. Part Two follows:
Recently the IRS has been winning big economic substance cases, including Long-Term Capital (that one got a lot of press), Coltec, and Castle Harbour.
There has always been a body of respectable opinion that non-judicial doctrines like Economic Substance are unfair to business taxpayers. Non-judicial doctrines, the argument goes, inevitably create large gray areas that prevent taxpayers from knowing what the law really is, and therefore make it more difficult for taxpayers to comply. You can find a lot of smart tax lawyers and law school profs who believe in this argument.
With all due respect to them, I have never bought it. IMHO, the non-statutory economic substance doctrine allows the IRS to appropriately protect the fisc, by giving it the ability to police new and ever-more-creative raids on the Treasury without having to go up on the Hill every time they discover some cool new scam that has been dreamed up by some smart person. Bright-line rules not only tell taxpayers who want to comply how to do so; they also tell taxpayers who don’t want to comply how to work around the law. A little uncertainty, in my view, is a good thing.
And that’s why I am sorta OK with the idea that Idiot-Boy might veto the farm bill.
Does any of that make sense? The floor is open for questions.
DrDick @ 194
It is horrible to be sure. Worse I think for the family members, the person affected doesn’t seem to notice as much at some point. It’s an awful feeling to see someone you love so much not know who you are.
Here is one for TexBetsy;
link
can ya translate that into layperson please, burns.
CTuttle @ 200
And solar panels on the White House roof. imagine where we’d be today if alternative energy had been a priority.
madmommy @ 202
Yeah, that happened with my grandfather. I think he kind of saw it coming, before he lost enough that he didn’t understand any more.
I had this huge Irish New York family that is now almost gone. Granny and family were very fun loving and had great parties. Now scattered to the wind to Ohio, Delaware, Pennsylvania and California, we are a not very close family in terms of seeing all. And I miss that.
rwcole @ 165
LBJ always said he could never be elected Preznit; Americans wouldn’t trust a Texan since they associate them with oilmen. Look what happened when two oilmen got (s)elected!
burnspbesq @ 117
We’ve been waiting, burns.
If I haven’t scared you off yet, you can go here to download a Senate Finance Committee explanation of the provision.
Steve-AR @ 203
Ack!
burnspbesq @ 201
I see what you’re getting at. The problem is that the farm bill is so much more than this. What of all the other parts to it? Agh. If it were only so simple as one issue per bill…
madmommy @ 205
Definitely. Have to say though she would get a pained look on her face a lot of times, as though she knew she should know something she could not remember and was trying hard to get it back. Always had a razor sharp mind (and tongue to match) before she got ill.
Christine Edmonson @ 209
We used to always do Christmas (mom’s side) together. But then divorces and time stepped in, now we only seem to get together for funerals.
burns, I so appreciate your offer (no snark)..
and i have no idea what the hell i read….
if you could recast, i’d be very grateful
(off to peel taters – back soon)
madmommy @ 207
I heard that Jimmy Carter did have solar panels on the roof of the White House.
nice seeing everyone… jammie time…
night-night, all…
Loo Hoo. @ 211
Turned into a two-parter due to itchy trigger finger. 179 and 203.
Christine Edmonson @ 216
I had not heard that! That is soooo cool. I do remember the sweaters and fireside chats.
That Reagan killed all the alternative energy research makes me fume to this day. He destroyed so much…
madmommy @ 207
I seem to recall a time – tho’ the mind caverns are dusty – when I could survive a nucular winter on body heat alone. Depended on the body, though, and the spirit in it.
Sure beat ethanol. ;-)
Christine Edmonson @ 218
Yep, Ray-gun yanked em off, post haste.
OldCoastie @ 217
Night night! I’m not far behind! This time change kills me in the evenings :-P
G*d, I love this place! Best essay in weeks, TRex.
Suzanne @ 194
I have a weakness for internal combustion engines. Maybe I should sign up for a twelve step program and take up stamp collecting.
Loo Hoo. @ 172
Issa has donated $2,000,000 to the steal-California’s-electoral-votes effort, recently resurrected.
Turned into a two-parter due to itchy trigger finger. 179 and 203
a little premature getting outta the gate – isn’t there a little pill for that little problem?
madmommy @ 217
At this point, I am the oldest living member of my father’s side of the family and never really new my cousins on my mom’s side very well. Neither side really got together much.
burnspbesq @ 203
Capital Gains need to be taxed, and, the Hedge Fund Management needs to be scrutinized… Off-shore PO boxes shouldn’t preclude the taxation of the ‘Multi-National’ profits…
Night OC.
madmommy @ 216
Oh, isn’t that so. I’m trying to get my kids and their PA cousins to start a new family get together (sometimes via Facebook) and holidays — and it seems to be working.
Teddy, I heard Issa was the one pushing for it again – sounds like LooHoo and Demi are gonna have to pay his office a little visit again.
night, pb… sleep well…
Steve-AR @ 226
I dated a guy once who had a Baracuda. You could feel that car comming a mile away.
peanutbutter @ 214
There is still a chance that the conference committee will strip out the economic substance provision and find some other way to raise the $12 billion. But Idiot-Boy has made it quite clear that he will veto the bill if it contains even one dollar of revenue offsets. We’ll see if there is enough bipartisan support to override …
madmommy, i had a beau with a 69 dodge charger – he souped it up when he got back from nam.. that was one bitchin car.
peanutbutter @ 221
PB — I can’t remember where I read it, but it was said that Reagan had them ripped off when he moved into the White House. Can anyone confirm?
madmommy @ 203
For good reason they call Alzheimers “The Long Goodbye”. My mother had dementia (from cancer), didn’t have a clue who I was. She asked me my name and, when I told her, she remarked that she had a daughter with that name. “Oh really” I said “What’s she like?” Fortunately she said nice things about me.
Suzanne @ 237
Heh, one of Mopar’s finest…
CTuttle @ 231
Yep. No rational reason to treat capital gains any differently than wages. All income should be teated the same (and that includes inheritances) and most exemptions should be abolished. That is at the heart of the great myth that the rich are overtaxed. In reality much of their income in unearned and taxed at lower rates.
Christine Edmonson @ 232
It’s hard, we’re spread out from Washington state to Tennessee. There’s a gap between the oldest cousins who have grandkids, and the younger group who are still raising kids. Maybe I need to try to get a facebook thing going too!
burnspbesq @ 203
OK. I see it a little. Tell us, though – as much as I hate to give Chimpy props for doing the right thing – is he doing it for the right reason? For example, he immigration stance of the administration has some things we like, but for all the wrong reasons…
Suzanne @ 237
DSL is faster. And doesn’t break down as much. But the backseats are smaller.
Suzanne @ 206
At the highest level of abstraction, the controversy is about whether detailed, bright-line rules or broader principles and enforcement discretion are the better tool for dealing with tax-avoidance strategies that change shape faster than Odo. I’m a principles guy. A lot of people I respect are rules people.
Christine Edmonson @ 236
SOLAR ENERGY IS BACK AT THE WHITE HOUSE
Suzanne @ 237
That’s hot!
Suzanne @ 237
Suzanne, are you lovin’ this high speed or what?
DrDick @ 241
Buffett presented a pretty persuasive argument along those lines…
If you’re jonesin’ for a Colbert dose, here
Kevin Hayden @ 242
laughing
i’m not gonna talk about those backseats
Suzanne @ 235
The old “muscle” cars are going for incredible prices at auction.
Suzanne @ 238
Had a friend who had a VW bug with a Porsche racing engine in it. Had to pull the back seat to make room. Had it shipped over from Germany after he got out of the air force. Damn that thing could move.
Christine Edmonson @ 246
oh yeah
burnspbesq @ 243
To put another way, remember in the earlier threads discussing torture? Someone pointed out if you make waterboarding specifically illegal (yes, I know it already is illegal), then some dimwit will come along and say “oh HEY, you didn’t say poking eyeballs out with knitting needles was bad, so we figured it was okay.” And yes, I tend to agree, a set of principles and a body of case decisions seems the best way to handle these things rather than try to codify everything.
Argh, sorry about the bad quoting. Preview is my friend, preview is my friend…now if I’d only USE it…
DrDick @ 253
Wow, memory lane! Another boyfriend had a Bug with such a souped up engine that the front wheels nearly left the ground at high speed. Scared the crap out of me!
peanutbutter @ 246
WELL!!!
newtonusr @ 243
Oh, hell no! This is in the farm bill in order to make it revenue-neutral. Idiot-boy doesn’t care one whit about tax policy; he just hates the very idea of fiscal responsibility. Grover Norquist sticks his tongue in Bush’s ear, and his veto pen gushes all over the page (brain bleach is on the left).
Was metallic rust with white landau top and white vinyl seats
we wore matching yellow lensed aviator glasses and cruised around listening to Morrison Hotel on the 8track
that was a dayam fast car and we got air on a lot of the hills on the back roads.
OK, I’m folding. I can barely keep my eyes open, so I’ll see y’all tomorrow!
Hi everyone…. back in Portland OR…. after a wonderful dinner with Elmore….. nice neighborhood bistro. Heard about the Impeachment vote while driving…..
How is everyone?
burnspbesq @ 245
Re-fund the IRS, repopulate them, if I recall, white-collar prosecution has plummeted dramatically under Shrub…
in odd news …..
Children’s Museum exec arrested for child porn
from CNN.com – U.S.
The chief operating officer of the National Children’s Museum was arrested Tuesday and is charged with distributing child pornography over the Internet, authorities said.
More news can (always!) be seen here.
CTuttle @ 81
Further to go there. We gained some ground, and we think we can get it next time.
Just got back from the victory party. Man, I love victory parties that are actually victory parties!
To bed for me, and I think an extra blanket is in order.
Goodnight all!
Night PB. Don’t think I’m far behind you.
peanutbutter @ 255
Perfect analogy.
sleep well PB
kirk murphy @ 217
but all the goods are in the peels…
not madmom and dr d
Redshift @ 265
They’re the sweetest… Prost!
Nigh MM. It is currently 35 here and going down to the low 20s tonight. should make you feel a little warmer there.
peanutbutter @ 256
You are fixed above.
Nite, Sleepers…!
nite peanutbutter
nite doc
madmommy @ 255
My Bug was stock: the good new was that a “fill-up” was $3.00. The bad news was that the windows fogged up with heavy breathing and the cops could sneak up on you.
CTuttle @ 263
Actually, in recent years the Criminal Investigation Division of the IRS has really cleaned up its act. For most of the 1990s, pretty much all CID did was go on ride-alongs with DEA and add tax counts to drug-trafficking indictments. More recently, they’ve gone back to their core business of investigating and prosecuting tax scams.
Wow! This has been a roller coaster ride with Suzanne ridin’ in her landau top… For me, it was a 1963 VW beetle with a canvas sun roof. Ahha, those hilly road of Wilmington, DE>
in my high school mopar grrls were the easy ones
kirk murphy @ 217
Kirk,
Peanutbutter, bless her soul, distilled all of my tax geekery into one paragraph of plain English. Read her 255 and if you still have questions I am happy to try and answer them.
Steve-AR @ 277
You have to be pretty flexible to get jiggy in a Bug. Don’t the cops give bonus points for contortionism?
jb @ 129
I’m wondering how someone so frequently absent from Cal can have tenure? It seems that he really doesn’t particularly LIKE Berkeley given the absences apparent on his resume.
The way that I read this he spent only two years (1993 and 1997) teaching at Berkeley before receiving tenure! That stinks! Who pulled strings to give this guy any sort of service points? Associate profs are supposed to TEACH…although given Yoos logical capabilities and devotion to the Constitution I suspect that it may actually be an advantage to have him out of the classroom rather than poison the minds of students. They might end up with a “muddle of mush”.
Since then he has about four years teaching and Directing the Advanced Law Program at Boalt Hall. So for his 17 years “at” Berkeley, he’s only been in residence for about six years. The remainder he’s been in Washington, DC, Amsterdam, Chicago and Italy.
Judge Laurence Silberman, U.S. Court of Appeals, D.C. Circuit
Law clerk, 1992-93 Yale Law School, J.D. 1992
John Yoo joins faculty of law at the University of California at Berkeley School of Law (Boalt Hall) as Acting Professor of Law, 1993-99
Justice Clarence Thomas, United States Supreme Court
Law clerk, 1994-95
General Counsel, Judiciary Committee, United States Senate, 1995-96 ~ advising on constitutional issues and judicial nominations.
Visiting Professor ~ Free University of Amsterdam, 1998
Professor of Law, 1999-present
Office of Legal Counsel, United States Department of Justice, 2001-03 Deputy Assistant Attorney General ~ issues involving foreign affairs, national security, and the separation of powers.
Visiting Professor, University of Chicago Law School, 2003.
Visiting Scholar, American Enterprise Institute, 2003-present.
Director, Advanced Law Program (LL.M and J.S.D. degree programs), 2004-present.
Distinguished Fulbright Chair in Law, University of Trento (Italy), 2006.
TeddySanFran @ 278
shhhhh
TeddySanFran @ 280
And you know this how?
Kevin Hayden @ 280
The only time I was really caught was by the Fed Park Police in Ft Marcy Park (where Vince Foster killed himself). No bonus point from the Feds.
More TRex!!! (upstairs)
burnspbesq @ 245
*giggles at the DS9 reference*
When I was in HS my parents had a Chrysler Town & Country. If you put the back seat down, the cargo area was approximately the same size as a queen size bed.
katymine @ 262
Electrified…
Teaching is part of it, but much of his advancement and promotion would be based on scholarly publications and outside letters from peers. By now, I’m sure that the Federalist Society has a network of journals to publish and fellow wingnuts to recommend people like Yoo. The Belkeley law faculty should be hip to that nonsense, but faculty personnel decisions are a somewhat capricious business.
burnspbesq @ 289
Heh, to quote ya; “And you know this how?” ;-)
peanutbutter @ 255
And the legal precedent is there: a sheriff in Texas was sentenced to ten years in 1983 for waterboarding a prisoner: http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01170.html
The mysterious -3, Whine of befuddlement and “hit” number are Dungeons and Dragons terms.
Don’t ask me how I know this. Never played the game myself. *MY* group always played “Empire of the Petal Throne”.
I did this 15 years ago. At first, AOL cost $3.00 an hour. (Before the flat rate.) I loved it! No, I am not rich and didn’t love paying $3.00 an hour, but the right-wingers were VERY scarce. I mean, there were SO few of them, the rest of us (in the chatroom “From the Left”) would have to take turns playing Right-Winger, just to get a “debate” going. When it was my turn, I could only last 30 minutes, if that.
It makes your stomach turn and exhausts you.