After a fantastic Book Salon with Susan Faludi yesterday afternoon, I settled in to watch some Bill Moyers' Journal regarding the consolidation of media control across the spectrum of print and broadcast reporting. The intersection of the two was fascinating. Susan Faludi in yesterday's comments:
As someone who has worked at many newspapers over the course of a career in journalism, I feel the same way. It was a depressing aspect of my book tour last month that as I traveled around and saw old friends at many of those papers, I kept hearing horror stories about cutbacks, layoffs, elimination of investigative reporting, proliferation of meaningless consumer “lifestyle” sections, and demands for stories that get a lot of clicks instead of stories that have actual import.
And from the Bill Moyers' piece yesterday on Minority Media:
...Once upon a time the Federal Communications Commission — the FCC — was a sleepy bureaucracy on a quiet street in Washington. The FCC is the government body that sets the rules for media. And for a decade now, it's become a citadel of power, swarming with media tycoons, high priced lawyers and well placed lobbyists, finagling to make sure the rules and regulations are shaped and bent to allow big media to get even bigger.
A handful of mega-media corporations have gained unprecedented control over radio ... television ... publishing and the Internet. They determine what music you hear, what stories get covered, whose opinions get expressed.
Until five years ago, people like you — the public — didn't matter very much at the FCC. Then, when the FCC Chairman Michael Powell announced that the commission was about to change the rule and allow a few media giants to own even more television and radio stations in one town, you said enough's enough. And somewhere between two or three million of you spoke up and deluged the FCC and Congress with phone calls, emails, letters, and postcards.
Now, a new chairman of the FCC Kevin Martin is pushing all over again to reward the Rupert Murdochs, the Time Warners, the Viacoms, General Electrics, and other conglomerates with what they want. And he wants it done by Christmas....
Why by Christmas, you might ask yourself? Because we are in an election season. All I have to say is Rupert Murdoch and Fox News or Clear Channel and the Dixie Chicks and Bruce Springsteen...and you see what media consolidation gets you in terms of diverse opinions.
Yesterday, I linked up the Bill Moyers' speech from the National Conference on Media Reform -- it is well worth a watch. FreePress has been all over this, as have StopBigMedia and a host of other folks. Do take some time this morning to watch the Bill Moyers' Journal -- it's available online, as is the transcript. If you've asked yourself what the big deal is about net neutrality or media consolidation, this show will answer a lot of your questions.
Digby hit the fallout square yesterday:
...Grab the Maalox kids because I can feel it in my gut. The bad breath and the sleepy eyes and the bedhead are all around us. Come 2009, if a Democrat wins the presidency, the Village press will finally wake up from its 8 year somnambulent drool and rediscover its "conscience" and its "professionalism." The Republicans will only have to breathe their character assassination lightly into the ether --- the Village gossips will do the rest. And if this new president resists in any way, a primal scream will build until he or she is forced to appoint a special counsel to investigate the "cover up" and grovel repeatedly in forced acts of contrition in response to manufactured GOP hissy fits and media hysteria. We're going forward into the past (and judging from the haircut nonsense we've already seen, it isn't confined to Clinton.)...
If the media consolidation rules go through prior to Christmas, the present that all good wingy media moguls want from Santa's bulging pack, you can speed up that timetable tremendously.
The "good for the ratings" excuse will get trotted out as cover for every salacious little tidbit that drips from the fangs of GOP-pundits who have had to bite their tongues to keep from bitching about "Shrub And The Craptastics" the last few years. That's a whole lot of pent up energy waiting to burst forth. And this FCC ruling allowing for further corporate media consolidation is the invitation to the frenzy.
So much for journalism to educate the citizenry and differing points of view. Hello tabloid hell, salacious idiocy, and ratings wars. Goodbye facts and logic, hello whatever is necessary to boost the bottom line...even if it's a hollow controversy that we gin up ourselves to manufacture our own ratings. At least each story will have individualized, pithy theme music....
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Morning, Miss Christy - hope you, Mr. Reddhedd and the Peanut had a good weekend.
Morning Toby — we did. How about you?
Mornin’ Christy.
I’ll have to be convinced that there’s something good about it.
Ugh. No wonder I don’t watch TV.
The more Big Media owns the more they can control the message!
And here is one of the lead talking heads…
Premiere Radio Networks, a subsidiary of Clear Channel Communications, is expected to announce that it is extending Glenn Beck’s contract, “valued at $50 million over five years.” The new contract would make Beck “the third highest-paid talk radio host” after Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
..no accounting for taste I guess. :)
Morning, Christy!
drinksforall at 5 — Or ratings. He has utterly tanked on Headline News. But then, in an environment where you have no competition, and are automatically broadcast on ClearChannel networks across the country, you don’t exactly have to worry about competition, now do you? Wingnut Welfare…it’s not for the talented.
If the Democratic Party takes over the White House, it should prepare to feed the hungry maw of the media with loads of detail about violations of law by the current administration. Start with release of the rest of the Abu Ghraib pictures, add a pile of rendition and water-boarding, secret prisons, spying on Americans, and all the corruption we can find, as fast as possible. Spread it over the Republicans like a shroud. The media can feed on their former masters, which should be lots of fun for them.
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BTW:
In Pakistan, after suspending the Constitution and declaring martial law, the head of the military, General Pervez Musharrif, has placed the head of the government, President Pervez Musharrif, under house arrest.
Morning Christy - my, but Standard time makes it easier to get on board the early-morning chats.
The corporatization of media is one of the most distressing developments of the past 30 (pick a number - I think 30, give or take a decade, is good) years. And the notion that, given the execrable state of the media and journalism today, we need to promote further consolidation…ugh.
I’d love for a Dem Congress and president to roll back the ownership maximums, but I don’t spend enough time in my fantasy world to believe that would happen.
And add the writers strike… even more crappy stuff on teevee.
None of this sounds remotely like anyone has the ‘general’ public interest in mind. It’ll be a sad, sad day when the internet is taken over by big business…..
JUST ……….oy
And as usual, the Dems in Congress are silently acquiescing to this crap. Nothing to see here, especially given the fact that Clinton is in bed with Ruppert Murdoch and his money.
Edwards is absolutely right. The ENTIRE government, top to bottom, is corrupt and nothing can be done to correct the situation with policy and laws until the corruption is cleansed away…and Hillary is NOT the antiseptic to do the cleaning, she is part of the filth.
from this week’s list of congressional hearings:
Thursday, 10 am - Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
To hold hearings to examine localism, diversity, and media ownership.
peeps in this country are already so fact challenged,and not curious….the high gasoline/food prices are getting their attention however…WAKE UP Merika
Christy Hardin Smith @ 2
Busy as usual. When you wreck out a house, even when you are not “wrecking”, there is a mess - the dust just keeps settling. So, we spent a lot of time cleaning. I did, however, go to see The Bee Movie with my animation-crazed 20 year old son. His verdict: Cute, Clean, but not a movie with a long shelf-life. Any animated film featuring a bee personifying Larry King has too many pop references to it. On the other hand, he’s a big fan of Princess Mononoke, so you know where he’s coming from.
I meant to include this in the post above — and have amended it to include the following:
Contact Information for the FCC:
1-888-225-5322 (1-888-CALL FCC) Voice: toll-free
1-888-835-5322 (1-888-TELL FCC) TTY: toll-free
1-866-418-0232 FAX: toll-free
Federal Communications Commission
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Washington, DC 20554
Praedor Atrebates @ 13
WORD straight up!
OK Christy,
I signed the petition some time over the past couple of weeks. Sent comments to the FCC. Now what?
At least in the last go around there were public hearings around the country. Methinks they didn’t like being out in the open.
christine @ 11
1984……………
I was travelling yesterday and couldn’t get to Susan Faludi’s book salon, but The Terror Dream is a great read. That’s “great” as in “very well-written, incredibly thoughtful, and tremendously insightful.” Not “great” as in “good news.”
For those who think message control is a new game for the internet era, Faludi will make you think again.
Praedor — The Dems in Congress have a hearing on media consolidation this week, and have already been doing pushback in other hearings and in FCC oversight.
There’s also a world of difference between Princess Mononoke and that Bee Movie in terms of the writers and where they come from. I’m your son 10 years into the future. Still an animation crazed nut, and even more picky. *grins* I tend to lean towards the anime as well, since that’s where all the really good writing is coming from in the last 10 years or so.
I realize I’ve brought this up before, but I think people concerned about media ownership, “fairness” issues and so on will want to keep an eye on this:
http://www.house.gov/hinchey/issues/mora.shtml
And don’t forget that the Thugs and big Media are using the USPS to kill off another source of information; low volume print media.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 7
No Sh**!!!!
You would think that even the politically “unaware” would conclude Beck to be the abrasive dolt he is in the time it takes them to crack open their next bottle of Jim Beam!! He is just plain BAAAAAD t.v.
Steve-AR @ 25
high postal rates discourage giving and receiving practically everything
Totally agree about Rupert Murdoch and FoxNews…
Which was what made this so disheartening to read about:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....0694.shtml
And here’s a pretty good review of it:
http://www.dmiblog.com/archive.....itual.html
Christy Hardin Smith @ 22
I realize that C but I was expressing my opinion on the outcome given the outcome of ALL other “hearings” and “investigations” in this Congress: nada. Nothing ever comes of these things. Subpoenas are either never produced or, if produced and ignored, THAT is ignored and given a pass. I cannot think of a single “investigation” by this Congress that has actually ended with any sort of valid or acceptable resolution or law. It just seems they have them in order to give themselves something to do while they while away the time until 2008 (to be followed by more nothing results).
I would like to be wrong on this but the track record of the Dems is to produce the same outcome as the GOP would have produced (only the GOP had no “investigations” or “hearings” before coming to their foregone conclusions).
I hope I’m wrong on this, at least this once, but I just haven’t seen anything from this Congress to justify their majority, let alone a bigger majority after next year.
The only thing media consolidation brings is fewer owners of larger demesnes. You still have mass media with little diversity of opinion or anything else at any even moment. It’s also symptomatic of a terminal illness fast approaching the final death knell. Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say.
Did anyone see Brian Williams on SNL? I loved the line he used (twice) about “we the media have decided that Hillary Clinton will be the next Democratic candidate”.
great column by Nora Ephron on Mukasy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....ostComment
on the newspaper problem — my local paper the Santa Rosa Press Democrat should go out of business it does more harm than good and is nothing but a piece of fectless drek.
Another nail in the coffin for ‘professional’ media.
Has anyone else noticed how nearly every question asked of Presidential candidates is asked from a Republican frame? It doesn’t matter if its a Republican or Democratic candidate, but there’s hardly a progressive question in the bunch on debates, Sunday talk shows, poll questions (!), or even general opinion letters.
This may seem like a small thing, but if the only way to get answers to positions on global warming (not just gas prices), school readiness (not just NCLB), access to health care (not just insurance), is on sentence 2 paragraph 3 of a candidate’s position paper posted on their website we’re in trouble whether more consolidation happens or not.
I have to think if the tables were turned we’d be hearing screeches of ‘librul media’ from talk radio and the beltway pundits they’ve spawned multiple times an hour until it stops. How do we stop this?
This is seriously (IMO) the most important issue we are dealing with right now. This issue dramatically affects all the other important issues for which we struggle as diligent, patriotic progressives and liberals.
I really think we need to organize a progressive Manhattan Style Project to form our own media conglomerate.
Progressive candidates have raised millions of dollars over the internet, imagine how much we could raise if we all pulled together for this one, essential campaign.
Maybe we wouldn’t raise enough to by a major network (NBC, ABC, CBS) but perhaps we could buy some important radio stations and newspapers. Or maybe a major cable channel. Or perhaps we could buy Dish Network (Rupert Murdoch already owns DirectTV) or start our own satellite network.
There are a lot of possibilities, but I think this is the essential project of our time. We can’t afford NOT to dream big on this, because something drastic needs to happen, and I don’t think any of us believe this problem is going to be solved legislatively.
Praedor — Perhaps you missed the part about the last time these rules and regs came up for a vote in the FCC — and people stood up and said “no freaking way,” sent in several million postcards, made lots of phone calls, and got members of Congress from both sides of the aisle to do the same.
If we just sit around and wait for the worst, that’s likely what we’ll get. How about instead we start pushing for something better ahead of the voting timeline…and then keep on pushing, again, until the FCC backs down? Sunshine and action are two of my all-time favorite words.
drinksforall
But the cheap bourbon drinkers are “seeking clarity” in that bottle. Anyone, no matter how abrasive, that spouts hatred validating their dumbed down ideas is to them, hair of the dog. They keep drinking it to delay their inevitable hangover…which is reality.
If we want the country given back to the people, we will need campaign reform and media reform. I don’t see either happening any time soon, unless we get written promises from the people who want our vote that they will push both agendas forward.
EPU’ed from the last thread:
SufiLizard @ 107
http://groups.google.com/group.....ct-indiana
Here you go. You have to apply, but I got approved in short order. See you there!
Dee @ 37
I agree, we need to keep the heat on our elected representatives. But I also have realistic expectations, which is why I think we need to come up with an organized, comprehensive plan to change things by working within the flawed rules that are likely to govern the media for the foreseeable future.
sadly yes @ 27
These rate increases are directed against a specific target; low volume “political and informational” periodicals. A question just came to mind; I wonder if “religious” publications are affected?
Once again:
CBS–> Viacom
NBC-Universal/MSNBC–> General Electric
ABC–> Disney
CNN–> TimeWarner
Fox–> NewsCorp
With the exception of NBC-Universal/MSNBC, all the “News” networks are owned by mega entertainment companies. (Note that NBC is already yoked to Universal, an entertainment company.)
(Word is out within media circles that GE is mulling spinning off NBC-Universal.)
We have two Democratic candidates who’ve spoken out against media consolidation. Only one of them, John Edwards, has a chance to be our nominee. Why aren’t the people I adore at FDL not campaigning more for the populist progressive among the front-runners?
RevDeb @ 3
The term “Good morning” is an oxymoron. Rather like military intelligence, ethical businessman, and fun run, it does not truly exist in these times.
YMMV
The Pew News IQ site is fascinating and alarming at the same time.
It’s interesting to take their test and read the summary of their findings as they correlate sources of news, education levels and age to how informed people are.
I came away with a question they didn’t address. Older people are best informed. Is this because of age/lifestyle, or is a better informed generation dying out?
I hope the former, I fear the latter.
Pew
Way OfT - may i say a quick thank-you to those who wished me - on facebook, a happy birthday today? That was very kind, and meant a lot to me.
Other than that, we’ll speak of it no more, ok?
lauren @ 42
AFAIK, FDL doesn’t endorse primary Dem candidates.
Via TPMmuckraker and Huffpo, Specter has announced he will vote for Mukasey. Boy, I never saw that one coming.
There are effectively something as few as 5 large media companies in the entire world.
Unless these are broken up, the messages that need to be sent to the people never will be.
Soon they take the internet away. They are trying to trash bloggers now as irrelevant nut cases in their PJs. Most journalists are sell outs… that is the ones who get anywhere in the media.
It’s all about advertising isn’t? That’s how they make their money. Selling useless junk.
We need to stop buying all those brands.
The only power the people have is to strike and not to spend.
The representative are effectively useless and sell outs.
How much more of these defeats will we take? I see no progress whatsoever. Day by day we slip into fascism. Really. We are a faux democracy if there ever was one. We have W with 20% support, Veep with less than 15%, a democratic congress and we get nothing… nada… zilch.
dakine01 @ 43
How about “Top of the morning”? (BTW, how is “Good morning” an oxymoron?)
jayt @ 45
that’s right! no more happy birthdays for you! hope minijayt had a happy birthday too…
Biodun
The analysts are pusing this. They usually are the first ones to point to breakup value being in the interest of the shareholders.
I think Immelt is going to wait a couple of years to realize a return on his investment. NBC seems to be turning around a bit after a couple of very lean years. Plus earnings are predictcable at NBC which is of great importance to a company that tries to sell its “industrial” backbone to Wall Street.
SufiLizard @ 34
I have to agree, if for no other reason than to provide more traditional outlets for progressive voices and increase their visibility to the general public. It frustrates me no end to see pundit panels made up of 2 raging wingnuts, 1 Republican pundit, and the occasional DINO. At least with Air America radio, you will see people like Sam Seder and Rachel Maddow on the teevee.
Biodun @ 46
At least not at the Pres candi level.
CHS:
I think you’re laboring under a misconception with this:
“So much for journalism to educate the citizenry and differing points of view. Hello tabloid hell, salacious idiocy, and ratings wars. Goodbye facts and logic, hello whatever is necessary to boost the bottom line…even if it’s a hollow controversy that we gin up ourselves to manufacture our own ratings. At least each story will have individualized, pithy theme music….”
It’s not about “manufacturing ratings”. It’s about winning the election for the Republicans: that’s where the money is, not in viewership of news programs. The profitability of writing legislation dwarfs any narrow victories in ratings war. If it were about ratings the Plame story — featuring a beautiful blond spy, treason, jailed journalists, Cheney as villian — would have been omnipresent and incessant. Yet it was on “Nightline” (just one example) but once, if I’m not mistaken. The two quotes that sum it up are Welch’s “You don’t work for NBC, you work for GE!” and Redstone’s comments (and actions) in the Rather affair.
Biodun @ 49
As I say, mutually exclusive terms. But I’m not a “morning” person. And as I also say, your mileage may vary.
brendan @ 54
ding ding ding
Christy,
The FCC did take notice, Powell slipped away and a new bot is up with the same agenda. They are relentless and they will get what what they want.
Look at the WSJ deal… Where was the FCC on that? Not a peep.
I think we have to get used to the idea that our democracy is a facade. It appears to be working as one, but for all intent it is not.
Don’t be surprised if there is a reason for emergency powers in time for the next elections to be indefinitely postponed.
They are not going to give away power without using every dirty trick in the book. They are doing it right now.
Look at the trajectory. Where is it heading?
They have collected enormous lists of people TSA who will be prohibited from flying… then use the internet and so forth. It’s coming.
hope minijayt had a happy birthday too…
his is 11-3 - mine 11-5.
Could there possibly have ever been a better birthday present than that?
dakine01 @ 53:
Thanks. That’s what I meant to say.
I am against the consolidation of big media, but I wonder if the big boys aren’t chasing fool’s gold.
Like the old gray mare, big media just ain’t what it used to be. Look at the flagship nightly news ratings or subscription rates to the major dailies, as compared to 20 years ago.
I really think big media is going to go the way of Life Magazine and The Saturday Evening Post.
On the Progressive side: would someone give me an update on Air AMerica? For instance, how to contact. I sent an email that was returned/deadletter, etc. Or would it simply be better to try to contact one of their talking heads? I’m in the dark about communicating with Air AMerica, et al. Thanks
SunnyNobility @ 44
The quiz was pathetic..on the other hand, 50% of the American adult population is functionally illiterate.
And did you notice how Imus who was proven to be a racists thug was just put on the morning drive time in the largest market. All that drama did nothing. ABC did exactly what they want, the people be damned.
brendan @ 54
Stop! You’re both right. The corporations that own the major news outlets don’t want these outlets rocking the boat or interfering in their efforts to write legislation beneficial to them. They do this by promoting White House talking points and trivializing news with the latest missing white woman or Edwards’ haircut story.
Biodun @ 41
If GE spun off NBC, that would be very good news, actually. Jack Walsh was running GE when they bought NBC. He said that it would be stupid to report anything NOT pro-Republican/conservative agenda because to do so would hurt business, and hurting business is hurting GE. (Remeber he’s the guy who said he’d converted Timmeh from a liberal…) Do you recall NBC firing a reporter who spoke out against the Iraq invasion during a report she was doing? Fortunately, they had to hire her back. Then they fired Peter Arnett for speaking out against the war. Boy, that never got much media coverage/outrage, did it?
The lack of investigavtive reporting has been going on in TV for quite a while - well before the Bush administration. About 15-18 years ago, media suddenly decided it was a business and it must keep increasing it’s profit margins (TV profit margins are huge - used to be 50%). Suddenly there was no money for reporters to take contacts to lunch or buy them little gifts, things to keep the contacts talking to the reporters. It wasn’t budgeted. Crucial money to assist with investigations just kept being buegeted less and less until nothing was in the budget. Voila! Media is now Big Business and no longer the help-mate of the people. I’ve watched it happen.
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Don’t forget to vote for the Best Liberal Blog.
TPM is currently smearing FDL, almost 2 to 1.
Lets Freep this poll, shall we?
http://2007.weblogawards.org/p.....blog-1.php
musicsleuth @ 52
Thank you! Now how do we make this happen? Unfortunately I don’t have any money to support this at the moment, but as of then end of this week, it looks like I’ll have some extra free-time. I would seriously like to find a way to make this happen.
SanderO @ 63
Yea, that’s right, they put himn back on because “the people” won’t listen to him.
old gold @ 60
Newspapers and news shows are a small fraction of the profits of these behemoths. Take a cursory glance at the quarterly report of any of the megacorps. Heck, turn on the tv.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 35
Don’t get me wrong, I will call and send one of my postage-paid postcards to boot. I am just fatalistic about this Congress and virtually everyone in it. The few exceptions to corrupt politicians that do exist are just tiny bits of debris floating on the vast ocean of corruption that is the government and everyone else in it.
Beyond that, do not worry, I wont be sitting this one out either.
christine @ 11
Personally, I think the
writerspablum pencil pushers strike is the best news of the day. Just maybe, John Q. Public will realize that being sedated and numbed by stupidity, torture, excessive violence, death, fear, hatred, rudeness, and sick enjoyment of someone else’s pain has impacted their own wellbeing. Just maybe people will finally turn off the idiot tube and pick up a book, help a neighbor, and participate in their community? Regular TV (not PBS yet) had reached its’ zenith awhile ago and the death knell has rung. TV use consists of sports viewing and movie videos. As for radio, people are plugging in their Ipod. And for news, the internet. TV programing has gone the way of the horse and buggy.Dee @ 65:
NBC fired Ashleigh Banfield but never hired her back. She now works for CourtTV (not owned by NBC but by Disney by way of Turner Broadcasting.) Peter Arnett worked for–and was fired by–CNN.
Hugh @ 64
I think CHS already knows this and wouldn’t disagree with me. I’m just importuning her to discard some cliches and start inserting new “memes” into her discussion.
However, CHS’s above quote was wrong for another reason I neglected to mention: it’s more condescending to the public than even they deserve. It presumes media are responding to real public demand for vanished vixen stories and the like. To repeat, the Plame case is proof enough that they are interested in promoting “scandal”, real or manufactured, only unless it undermines their political aims.
Dear Musicsleuth, if you’re concerned about the rightwing media dominating our news, and about the support they get from congress to do it, you might want to check out the two links I posted at #28, about the leading candidate for the democratic nomination, and her relationship with Rupert Murdoch.
Yea, that’s right, they put himn back on because “the people” won’t listen to him.
his audience will come from the 20% who still listen to Shrub. Ipus has endorsed John McCain for president.
writer’s strike is good news for Senator Clinton. Most of the news is driven by the comments from the late night and comedy shows
brendan — Take a peek at the National Enquirer sales numbers versus the Atlantic Monthly ones, just as a single example. Or talk with random people about whether they can give you the play by play on the Anna Nicole Smith saga versus Valerie Plame Wilson and Dick Cheney’s office involvement.
And then tell me it’s condescending and not reality for an entire segment of tuned out America.
katherine Graham Cracker @ 75
Good thing there is an off switch.
Biodun @ 72
Thanks! I had such a mental block on her name. I thought Arnett was CNBC. Thank you for correcting me!
brendan @ 69
That is precisely the problem. The companies who own the media would be willing to lose money on their shows in order to continue to reap obscene profits on their more important areas of business. They make a killing (pun intended) on war and they will hype the invasion of Iran not in ignorance of the destabilizing effect it will have on the Mid East, and
possiblyprobably the world. Because a destabilized world in constant military struggle means big profits to them.We need to fight fire with fire and develop our new media. Liberal blogs and Air America are a good start. We need to plan and implement the next steps now.
Activism (raising a ruckus with the FCC) is part of the solution, but that is only delaying them. They’ll keep coming back year after year trying to get their rules through.
So while we’re delaying the enemy, we need to plan our counter attack.
We don’t have the money of these big players, but COLLECTIVELY we do have the money to compete. We just need to herd these cats and go on the offensive. (easier said than done, but that doesn’t excuse not trying).
Regular TV (not PBS yet) had reached its’ zenith awhile ago and the death knell has rung.
Did you happen to see the episode of South Park where one of the boys’ parents was competing for the largest turd? The unit of measurement (Swiss of course) was the Couric!!
Hi Katie!!
At least we can still read foreign media..when will that become illegal.
From The Guardian, UK
link
To quote a “Jane-ism”, “Just Shoot Me”
Christy @ 77
I don’t hear many people on my trains talking about Mukasey, the FCC, the behavior of Congress and other elected officials, or much else that we here consider important. I hear a lot about ‘American Idol’, ‘Survivor’, and other stuff we think of as trash entertainment.
You’re on target, as usual.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 77
The Plame saga wasn’t on the news! How could the public be expected to know anything about it?
Today, I am going to try and organize my iPod music into folders. This could get ugly…but I cannot take skipping over Christmas music whie I’m out for a walk any longer.
Any hints would be much appreciated by this tech-challenged person. Thanks.
I saw the Moyers report early and found it very powerful. On Media, another issue that is not getting out there is the fact that big Pharma is having its drugs made in China with no oversight. The reason this is relevant here is that whereas NPR did a special on this last week (VERY frightening), MSM (newspapers, television, mainstream journals etc) have been mute. It seems that because so much of their advertising comes from Big Pharma they are too nervous about their funding to bring this to the public attention.
I am really sorry to read the Couric lampoon. She may have earned some of the ridicule, but, one the other hand, she has paid her dues, is still standing, etc. Her personna could probably fit in somewhere in the Clinton/victim debate. Katie was quite young when she hit big success; life is a learning curve. I think there has been way too much glee about her difficulties. While she has played a part in that scenario, there seems to be some delight in the mighty fallen…maybe even more for a smart mouth “girl.” I find the above “couric” quite offensive. She lost a husband, has mothered 2 daughters, done some excellent work, both professionally and charitable. Give the girl a break. The rant about her Elizabeth Edwards interview was nothing short of psychotic.
OT well maybe not. A well written but really stupid story up at the NYT:
Missteps on Both Sides Led to Health Bill Veto
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11.....ref=slogin
This is one of these stories that introduces its bias in the following way. It takes the failure on SCHIP that is 90% Bush and the Republicans’ fault and spins it has a 50-50 split. The NYT under Bill Keller and Pinch Sulzberger is becoming such a tired joke. They play act journalistic independence but then carry the Administration’s water on Iraq and minimize or obfuscate its domestic failures. Pathetic.
bhatten @ 87
She was vicious to Kerry (and other Dems). More often than not she is a water carrier for the Repugs. Any respect (or sympathy) I may have had for her earlier has long since gone.
brendan — Wow, I must have hallucinated all those Victoria Toensing ranting appearances, then, eh? Or the Shuster pieces on MSNBC? Or…
Is there a petition I can sign to prevent more media consolidation? This is so damn depressing. The Clearchannel Group controls 1,000 outlets already.
Hugh at 88 — Gack. Was just about to read that…really looking forward to it now. Not. *G*
Rove is working as we speak to steal the next election. The Legacy media will certify the results.
RockPaperScizzors @ 71
Actually, the writer’s strike will probably lead to even more pablum as it means the networks can fill up more hours with “reality” shows since they’re “not scripted” so not covered by the writer’s strike. And the so-called reality shows give them even higher profits.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 90
It just seems like a nightmare, eh?
OT–
Ass backwards:
If there had been no invasion and occupation of Iraq, Pakistan might not now be in crisis.
SufiLizard @ 80
GE obviously makes a killing on war, but I’m skeptical of how true this is of the others. For example, I would guess peace and prosperity are good for Disney’s bottom line. What they unarguably make a killing on is a Republican regime, and selling the war was a necessary part of perpetuating that regime.
Hugh @ 88
And, remember the State Department push back to being sent to Iraq? One of them stated that any place else the embassy would be closed by now. While this was widely reported on the web (and was in many ways one of the strongest aspects of the issue) as I recall the NYT left this out entirely from its article.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 85
Talk to selise…
BTW, I could have went all day without thinking about Vickie Toenails.
The more diversity and cultre that we can get to incorperate their opinions in to today’s media the more open minded we as a public can be. With only one perspective our society today would be completly ambigious to those things that lie around us and our ideology as a country today.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 85
If you put your cursor on a song and hit control I (apple key-I for mac heads) you get the Information page that allow you to put in data about the song that help in the organization. Also, if you highlight any number of songs and got to File, New Playlist from selection it’ll make the list for you and you can name it. One other helpful hint, if you go to View and them View options it gives you all kinds of criteria that show up. You can select them and then drag those fields to suit your needs. I especially like “Date Added”.
Hey, when the SIV time bomb goes off, the media moguls will be up the spout, anyways.
Hugh @ 88
Always remember that media corporations are corporations first and media second.
This means that they instinctively back Republicans, even when they’re not directly paid to do so.
From the NYT:
bhatten @ 87
(My bold) Couric represents the glitzing up and dumbing down of news. Perhaps you could point her to a learning curve. She certainly needs one and has shown no indications of being on one. Also I am perplexed that the “girl” card gets pulled out. What’s up with that? We can only take shots at men because they can take it but if it is a “girl” we are supposed to mind our manners?
On a thread here the other day, I think, someone mentioned the writers are asking for 4 cents on residuals or something. 4 cents.
There is no writing for Dancing with the Stars and other “reality shows.” The public is being led away, or allowing itself to be led, into more and more vacuous programing.
Well, it’s good to know that The Daily Show will still be with us - at least for the next two weeks. Jon Stewart is paying his writers out of his pocket to keep them going during the strike.
http://www.portfolio.com/views.....ers-afloat
brendan @ 69
Just look at the television programs for kids. They take the cake.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 85
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but “shuffle” only works on all of the songs in your library.
If you organize in folders/playlists you can only play that list sequentially.
Maybe you can uncheck the Christmas music and synch your ipod so that it removes the Christmas music and you can still use the shuffle mode.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 90
Ah, yes, the Boris-and-Natasha show! Those oh-so-nonpartisan experts, DiGenova and Toensing!
They were on MSNBC and CNBC in the 1990s so much I was beginning to wonder if they ever slept, much less had conjugal relations outside of the TV studios.
Don’t forget that this is where Ann Coulter got her big national break, too.
Steve-AR @ 40
Yes.
Give the Girl…should have been in quotes; irony gets lost, I know. Clearly, I do think she has had more than her share of shots. That was the kind of break I meant; not a walk. Thanks for the question.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 85
On the iPod your “folders” are called “playlists.” I’m not intending to be condescending, but I thought we should start there just in case you didn’t realize that.
I believe with newer incarnations of iTunes you can even flag individual songs to be skipped by the “shuffle” feature.
But I recommend creating several playlists for different situations.
I have a mellow “sleep music” playlist and also a “running” playlist with driving, upbeat music. I have a “kids tunes” playlist that isn’t children’s songs, but songs both the kids and adults in our family can tolerate. I also have a playlist for songs my wife likes. And of course a “Political” playlist for all my good protest music.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 90
I’m an oddity in that I don’t have cable. There was minimal coverage on the network news and gabfests, and certainly no selling of the matter as scandal in the way Lewinsky was sold.
This is kind of a silly argument considering the forum, a site for alternative media. I just wanted to make the point: you’re positing one kind of profit motive where a different, more substantial one is actually also operative.
Ahem:
We;re but a few steps away from suspending the Constitution.
T- @ 109
You can set iTunes to play songs, albums, or groupings (collections of the movements of a classical work) in random order.
Here are ways to shuffle songs:
■ To turn shuffle on or off, click the Shuffle button:
■ To choose whether iTunes shuffles by songs, albums, or groupings, choose Edit > Preferences, click Playback, and then select a Shuffle option. If you select Albums or Groupings, iTunes plays the songs in the order in which they appear on the album or in the grouping, and then chooses another album or grouping at random.
■ To adjust the likelihood that iTunes plays multiple songs in a row by the same artist or from the same album, choose Edit > Preferences, click Playback, and then drag the Smart Shuffle slider.
brendan @ 97
Good points, but I think they all benefit by the Orwelling social order that perpetual war creates.
KinMO @ 108
My 23 year old daughter recently told me that she felt the best thing we’d ever done for her and her sibs was NOT having TV in the house. Not that they did not watch - where we are, we can’t get anything if we don’t have cable - but they were brought up on videos of “Seven Samurai”, “Mothra”, Humphrey Bogart films and whatever we could borrow from the local library.
With the fact that the media is owned lock stock and barrel by big corporations, the only way they will divest is if they become prohibitively unprofitable.
Hence the leanings towards bullshit fluff and worthless news.
It is in their interests to keep the public stupid, they make more money.
brendan
Can you provide anything to substantiate this statement?
Biodun @ 96
I don’t know, Pakistan has been unstable since its inception. It’s either in, about to be in, or just coming off a crisis.
“We’re but a few steps away from suspending the Constitution.” I stayed on alittle too long; long enough to make me weep, and I have to go to work. I hope when I return we have a list or an action plan for how to stop some of the above. I thought all weekend about how much the AG may not matter, or many other things, since W with sign or enforce whatever he chooses. Where is the referee with a stop clock? Peace. (Or, someone with Impeachment papers or arrest warrant….while we slept.)
bhatten @ 112
Call me a snob but my sympathy for someone making tens of millions of dollars to do a third rate job is limited.
bhatten @ 87
I am really sorry to read the Couric lampoon. She may have earned some of the ridicule, but, one the other hand, she has paid her dues, is still standing, etc. Her personna could probably fit in somewhere in the Clinton/victim debate. Katie was quite young when she hit big success; life is a learning curve. I think there has been way too much glee about her difficulties. While she has played a part in that scenario, there seems to be some delight in the mighty fallen…maybe even more for a smart mouth “girl.” I find the above “couric” quite offensive. She lost a husband, has mothered 2 daughters, done some excellent work, both professionally and charitable. Give the girl a break. The rant about her Elizabeth Edwards interview was nothing short of psychotic.
I beg to differ.
She might well be the case-study in years to come for Business Classes 101 for the Peter Principle.
She’s really good at interviewing people with cute puppies. Real news? (please insert your own stream of invective, profane adjectives right here)…
I used to think she was cute as hell, but all of my male, sexually-induced thoughts have been indelibly changed by a more real look at the state of her tiny little mind…
Thanks Raven!
Now I know how to increase the likelihood of Rachmaninoff, Barry White and Bocelli come up during when I’m hanging out with the wife after our kids go to bed.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 85
what version of itunes do you use (and is pc or mac)? and what generation of ipod do you use?
raven @ 116
The Preferences are under iTunes instead of Edit on my mac book pro, under Edit on a PC.
T- @ 120
LOL!!!
Hugh @ 121
I said might. I agree that Pakistan has always been in crisis mode. But the lid has never blown off like this. There never has been martial law. Even when Zia had Bhutto executed two years after overthrowing him in a military coup.
Right now you have the Supreme Court and most portions of the legal system pitted against the military. Given that the military is woven into just about every fabric of life in Pakistan, this confrontation doesn’t bode well.
T- @ 125
Whoa! And they began to rock. . .steady. . .steady rockin all night long!
T- @ 126
Go Dawgs!
Anybody catch the energy hearing on CSPAN this morning held by Markey??? Only Markey showed up to the hearing and he alone listened to an extraordinary panel of youth leaders coming to Congress with an appeal to move forward against global warming. The panelists were absolutely amazing…it was so moving. Please try to watch the rerun if you did not see it. It really gives me hope to see the youth clean energy movement welling up across the country.
KinMO @ 129
Waiting…
T- @ 131
With my Illini playing #1 OSU, my Dawgs and Auburn and the Hokies at FSU I’ll be nervous as a cat crappin ground glass all week.
selise — It’s a PC. I just updated it to the latest iTunes version minutes ago. And it’s one of the 60GB video-capable ones — Mr. ReddHedd got it for me last year as my birthday present, but no idea what that means in terms of version. (Yes, I truly am that technologically-challenged. You guys have no idea how lucky you are that I get posts up with correct html. lol It has been a steep learning curve…)
The issue I was raising had nothing to do with profitability. My point of inquiry was whether or not big media can control the message through consolidating the old media.
I think that may prove difficult.
OT…..Chris Bowers defines the “goal”
openleft
bg @ 107
The writers used to get 4 cents. They want 8 now. And to make sure it includes all digital media(which I don’t know if it did before).
Another sort of OT, but one of the stories that I have not seen is that no one seems to have remarked on the propriety of former Secretary of the Treasury Robert Rubin taking over at Citigroup. The current Treasury Secretary is Henry Paulson from Goldman Sachs. Heads of big banks and investment houses become Secretary of the Treasury. Secretaries of the Treasury become the head of big banks and investment houses. The revolving door continues to revolve and whose interests do you think they represent? (Hint: not yours or mine)
Biodun @ 72
Here’s what I was thinking of…I knew there was an NBC in there somewhere!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/w.....ired_x.htm
(sorry - not trying to have the “last word”!)
T- @ 134
Maybe the jet engines they build? Or the power structures? Or the LOANS they make?
LS @ 132
thanks to c-span’s new archives, this hearing will be available soon (probably today) for streaming - here.
i posted some info on the c-span’s archives upgrades last week:
T- @ 134
Here, lazybones.
http://ir.timewarner.com/downl.....rnings.pdf
Dee @ 141:
And this is what I was thinking of…*g*:
From your link:
Maybe.
What I’m looking for, and we’re all adults here, is the incremental profits that GE would not have otherwise earned had there been no war. Now reasonable people would agree that there are some, but the initial statement said that GE makes a killing off the war. I don’t see it as I sit here with the annual report in front of me and the 10-K pulled up off of EDGAR.
Can someone point me to it? Or are you going to sit here and nod your head in agreement with a popularly held opinion without support of the facts? I can think of a particular group of people that rails against that type of behavior on most days ending in “Y”.
New thread: The Color Of Money
Dee @ 142
Or the defense industry?
Loans, geez. In other words, media conglomerates profit above all when regulation is dismantled, i.e., when Republicans (or corporate Democrats) are in office.
You seem to have to some expertise in the matter that I lack, even if my intuition and obserations are correct. Clue in “LOL” and “T” for me, please.
T- — I have to say, I haven’t been following GE earnings as closely since they sold off the plastics division where my dad used to work. They were fluctuating quite a bit, though, the last time I checked…
I meant four cents More. Is that a Lot?
I don’t think Diane Sawyer is any different, nor the men, when the issue is Limbo Limbo Limbo-o interviews on TeeVee. I thought she reached the demonstrable “who can go lower” when interviewing Elian Gonzales those years ago. But I saw one of the guys the other day and thought his questions were about as inane and low as anyone, don’t recall the object of the interview at the moment.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 85
Create a new smart playlist that has the attribute “Genre is not ‘Holiday’”. Title it “Not Holiday”.
Sync your iPod to include the new playlist.
Then in “Settings” on the iPod menu, set shuffle to “Songs”. Play the new “Not Holiday” list with random songs, and no holiday music will be played.
Set up another smart playlist where “Genre is ‘Holiday’”, and you can enjoy nothing but holiday music, when desired.
Thanks for everything you do for us!
Eric
brendan @ 144
I’m missing the connection between GE and Time Warner’s 2Q earnings report.
the couric was a perfect
fit for little katie. i wanted to believe that the media wasn’t completely controlled because life was so much easier not knowing. sadly hearing this interview about the bilderberg group just confirmed we are being controlled
http://aud1.kpfa.org/data/20071031-Wed1300.mp3
and then there is this
3 part doc was banned from usa.
power of nightmares video
What an age we live on, screw the fcc!
T- @ 146
I’m not sure who you’re arguing with here, but on the particular point of war, I don’t think I disagree with you (see my @97). On the other hand, deregulation of media control (the very subject of CHS’s post) is immensely profitable, more than whether Tucker Carlson’s show has 100 more viewers than last week (which I assume it does not).
Toby Wollin @ 119
I would agree with your daughter!! I didn’t really learn that TV had schedules, channels, various programs until I was 10. There wasn’t much in the way of TV in Japan and Italy prior to 1976, and what ‘English’ TV and radio there was was controlled by the Air Force. The only things I remember seeing on TV prior to ‘76 was a news broadcast in northern Japan, Sesame Street, a few rocket/maned space lauches, and the opening of the ‘Holy Door’ at the Vatican.
Once we got back to the US, our TV time was limited (aside from the lack of cable and all its channels). It was probably the best thing for us!!!
“Personally, I think the writers pablum pencil pushers strike is the best news of the day. Just maybe, John Q. Public will realize that being sedated and numbed by stupidity, torture, excessive violence, death, fear, hatred, rudeness, and sick enjoyment of someone else’s pain has impacted their own wellbeing. Just maybe people will finally turn off the idiot tube and pick up a book, help a neighbor, and participate in their community? Regular TV (not PBS yet) had reached its’ zenith awhile ago and the death knell has rung. TV use consists of sports viewing and movie videos. As for radio, people are plugging in their Ipod. And for news, the internet. TV programing has gone the way of the horse and buggy.”
I agree with most of your point!!! But, then again, I really don’t know what’s airing on the ’standard’ networks (SciFi, History, History International, Discovery are my main haunts). It’s all too stupid. But, as someone else pointed out… much of the adult population are functionally illiterate for all practical purposes. The dumbing down has worked well. I don’t think tv will ever truely go away. I guess I’m ‘old fashioned’ in that the pc is not for viewing ‘entertainment’, but for educational/work needs. You won’t find me going to a site and downloading news bits onto an Ipod. I’ll either watch it on the pc there or watch it on a tv.
“Actually, the writer’s strike will probably lead to even more pablum as it means the networks can fill up more hours with “reality” shows since they’re “not scripted” so not covered by the writer’s strike. And the so-called reality shows give them even higher profits.”
Ick!!!
T- @ 152
I took one quarterly report of one of these conglomerates at random. Look at the divisional breakdown a few pages in. I was simply making the argument that the news division — print or tv — is small as a portion of their total business. Go find GE/NBC yourself.
brendan
I’m not arguing with anyone here…yet.
I’m only seeking more information on how you reached your conclusion that GE makes a killing on the war.
Now once I get all the way through this SEC filing I might challenge that conclusion based on a set of facts.
Cheers.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 136
that’s right - i forgot you had a pc… well, we may need to rely on raven to correct me (since i am strictly mac).
question 2:
itunes lets you create playlists (which are ordered lists of songs and can be used for all the songs in an album or all the chapters in an audio book). playlists are only lists - a single song can be in multiple playlists.
you can organize groups of playlists into folders (for example a folder for sting could have all the playlists for each of his albums).
do you have your music organized into playlists and folders? not to worry if you don’t, i’ll just give you a slightly different protocol depending on how your music is organized (or not organized).
Biodun’s right; Musharraf would have had zip opportunity to declare a police state if the climate for the chaos in Pakistan had not been set by bush’s insanity.
What is happening in Pakistan is nothing but the vestiges of the neo-con effort to remake the world to suit the warped fantasies that created the nightmare in Iraq.
During bush’s two terms, he’s given Pakistan more than $10 billion dollars, with most of it going to the military that Musharraf is now using to put most of the country into lockdown.
SunnyNobility @ 44
I could see two or three of these being obscure to most people but this is really scary.
I wish they had also asked political affiliation. My guess is that that would have been interesting.
T- @ 158
GE = defense industry. On the other hand, I didn’t say other media companies have particular interests in warmaking.
I didn’t wade through that whole document myself. I just looked at a rough breakdown, and that’s all I suggested you do.
When I say GE or Viacom is slanting its political coverage in favor of Republicans, or suppressing news in favor of celebrity scandal in order to distract from issues damaging to Republicans — you’re right, I haven’t proven anything, only made accusations.
selise — Well, the big problem is that this is the laptop that I had to buy on the fly right before the Libby trial when my other one crashed. So, at the moment, the music is on my iPod, but not in my computer. Which is a problem.
twolf1 found a potential work-around for me that may work to get things back onto my hard drive. All my songs came from CDs that I own, with a very few coming from purchases from iTunes, so I won’t lose much if I have to start from scratch again…but this is clearly going ot take me a while.
brendan
I call bullshit on that one and suggest you go do some reading. Almost a half of GE profit is from the financial businesses and healthcare which would have an extremely low correllation to war activity.
Summary: On Oct 24, 2007 Sy Hersh gave the annual Amnesty International lecture in Dublin. His insights and information are given an added dimension by last week’s program on the authoritarian personality. these interviews are from unwelcomeguests.org
http://http.dvlabs.com/radio4a.....ur1mix.mp3
http://http.dvlabs.com/radio4a.....ur2mix.mp3
http://http.dvlabs.com/radio4a.....ur1mix.mp3
http://http.dvlabs.com/radio4a.....ur2mix.mp3
Tanbark @ 74
Now tell me something I don’t know.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 163
oh, i did not know… i’m afraid i can’t help you then (i don’t have your ipod - so i can’t even experiment on this end). i defer to the techies or someone with your type of ipod.
i’m guessing twolf1 has already asked you if your old hard drive died when your old pc crashed?
p.s. backups are your friend (i’ve had two hard drives crash on me, but was able to recover everything thanks to backups).
T- @ 164
how much of GE business is related to arms manufacturing and military contracts?
‘Sleuth. ’nuff said. :o)
Steve-AR — You’ll get more complete info. from the committee itself. Try here, and I’m told this is just for starters, FYI.
selise @ 168
T: What about elements in the other half? “Aviation” has nothing to do with defense spending?
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/071102/ge10-q.html
Forget these quarterly reports, that’s not how I came to these conclusions. Watch a Sunday talk show and see the GE commercials for the defense industry, or see ads in publications aimed at Congresmmen, like Roll Call or The Hill.
Let me just go back to my original point: the money is in legislation (whether having to do with contract or deregulation), not in ratings.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 163
Is it a Mac? There is a free app called senuti that let’s you take your music from the iPod to the computer.
raven at 172 — Nope, it’s a PC.
RealWorld @ 161
If you poke around at that site, they give you stats on what programs people watch v how informed they are. That helps. I think the reason Pelosi is better known than some speakers may be because she’s regularly damned.
If you didn’t get to this reportyou may find it interesting. I, unlike 65% of the public, have no idea who Beyonce Knowles might be ;-)
bg @ 107
Reality shows are scripted too. Just not to the same degree - they know in advance where they’re supposed to be going, and get to improvise some on the way.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 173
You have mail.
more for your ipod
http://www.electricpolitics.co.....ypsis.html
http://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/
selise @ 168
I don’t know selise, that’s what I’m trying to find out. Here’s a link to the latest 10-K. It’s a pretty large document, but the answer is in there.
brendan
Aviation absolutely has exposure to defense platforms used in war. Along with several other business units at GE like auxillary power generation and nuclear technology. What I’m trying to figure out is how much. I have a feeling its less than you stated in that GE makes a killing off the war. Since you don’t care to back that statement with facts (that won’t be in the Q, it will be buried in the notes in the back of the K if they are in there at all) then I’m not going to waste my time with it either. I’ll just call BS again and wait for you to prove it otherwise. But what the hell do I know, I just work here.
Peace.
ge
http://www.corpwatch.org/artic.....mp;type=16
Jo-Ann @ 91
I’ve looked around, but haven’t found one yet.
FCC Chairman Kevin Martin: (202)418-1000.
SanderO-”I think we have to get used to the idea that our democracy is a facade.” And I’ll add, as I keep contacting Congress and the FCC, that the American sheeple get exactly what they deserve, because this is all they expect.
“I used to listen to the radio
And I don’t guess they’re listening to me no more
They talk too much but that’s OK
I don’t understand a single word they say
Piss and moan about the immigrants
But don’t say nuthin’ about the president
A democracy don’t work that way
I can say anything I wanna say
So f*** the FCC”
Steve Earle
T- @ 178
This graph from the 10K is pretty good - still perusing it -
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/ed.....g_revs.jpg
“…proliferation of meaningless consumer “lifestyle” sections, and demands for stories that get a lot of clicks instead of stories that have actual import.” Sounds like huffpost. Do you know the schumer/feinstein caving in to bush over mukasey story was off the homepage by monday morning (and I couldn’t even find it on the site anymore), and this despite over 2500 comments last time I checked. We need another general news blog we can trust. And thank all gods that be for Bill Moyers, that man is wonderful.
Ok, so here is my remedy. Try and invoke a national strike against TV, and the media in general. Most of us get out news from the internet, and as yet, the major players haven’t got an overly big hand in controling the net, (at least I can still get to all my favorite sites such as FDL).
If there are enough of us willing to dump the media, and allow our journalist/bloggers to be our source, the impact my be noticeable.
If presented as a viahble means for us joes and janes to finally have some control, it counld convience enough of the public to follow suit. And maybe, in some way, it could be extended to the role of our polliticians and their stand on issues.
Stikes, in seems, get front page news quicklly, and this may be our chance.
Food for thought
Biodun @ 9
Lord have Mercy, that is one tough dictator.
Dee at 183
Yes, that’s nice graph of revenues, not earnings. But let me help you out.
Let’s compare the 3 year earnings data from 2004 until now to the period when Clinton was President from 1998 to 2000, when there was no quagmire.
From 2004 to 2006 earnings went from 19.6B to 26.3B, a 16% annualized rate of return.
From 1998 to 2000 earnings went from 9.2B to 12.7B a 17% annualized rate of return.
Which supports the point I am trying to make: GE makes far less off the war than some people are asserting here. That $2.2B of defense contracts is less than 2% of revenues. Say we make 10% of that in profit, that’s $220 million. That’s one deal at GE Commercial Finance defaulting. A nit.