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	<title>Comments on: Late Nite FDL: Spreading Freedom!  Ain&#8217;t it Grand?</title>
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		<title>By: ten2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/05/late-nite-fdl-spreading-freedom-aint-it-grand/#comment-1079694</link>
		<dc:creator>ten2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know, once we have enough Blackwater style corporate owned mercenaries back here in the states all we have to do is make sure they are armed to the teeth, then we could have us one of these Pakistani coups ourselves!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Imagine!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Marshall law for all!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ain’t it a great time to be an amerikkkan?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, once we have enough Blackwater style corporate owned mercenaries back here in the states all we have to do is make sure they are armed to the teeth, then we could have us one of these Pakistani coups ourselves!</p>
<p>Imagine!</p>
<p>Marshall law for all!</p>
<p>Ain’t it a great time to be an amerikkkan?</p>
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		<title>By: larry birnbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry birnbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some of this seems to me to be within spitting distance of the right-wing conspiracy theorists who argue that the government knew about the 9/11 attacks ahead of time.  It isn’t necessary to engage in this kind of fantastic speculation to explain what’s wrong with this administration’s stance towards Pakistan and what has been going on there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of this seems to me to be within spitting distance of the right-wing conspiracy theorists who argue that the government knew about the 9/11 attacks ahead of time.  It isn’t necessary to engage in this kind of fantastic speculation to explain what’s wrong with this administration’s stance towards Pakistan and what has been going on there.</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn urban</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolyn urban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well, you have to hand them one thing. Republicans are certainly consistent in their failures. They can consistently be relied upon to be dishonest, greedy, corrupt, grasping, incompetent, sexually perverse, morally bankrupt losers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LOL TRex.  And so true.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, you have to hand them one thing. Republicans are certainly consistent in their failures. They can consistently be relied upon to be dishonest, greedy, corrupt, grasping, incompetent, sexually perverse, morally bankrupt losers.</p>
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<p>LOL TRex.  And so true.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiritcatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiritcatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;seems not only the repubs got outwitted by the neocons, but also the neocons got outwitted by the raptureheads … or maybe they’re working together : turning the middle east into a giant parking lot won’t exactly harm the oil downstairs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems not only the repubs got outwitted by the neocons, but also the neocons got outwitted by the raptureheads … or maybe they’re working together : turning the middle east into a giant parking lot won’t exactly harm the oil downstairs.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1079264&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;burnspbesq @ 201&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1079099&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TexBetsy @ 43&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Musharraf’s crackdown could fuel Islamic insurgency in Pakistan&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/21120.html&quot;&gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/hom.....21120.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WASHINGTON — President Pervez Musharraf’s imposition of emergency rule in Pakistan, which he said is intended to curb Islamic extremism, could actually aid the growing insurgency by militants allied with al Qaida and the Taliban, U.S. officials and experts warned Monday.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pakistan is actually quite simple.  We have no alternative but to double down on Musharraf.  Bhutto isn’t a viable alternative — the fundies and their pals in al-Qaida and the Taliban will never consent to be governed by a leader who lacks a Y chromosome.  If Musharraf goes, inevitably the fundies and their pals get their fingers on the nuclear button, and India will (rightly or wrongly) see itself as having no alternative but to launch a pre-emptive strike.  Unless we do it first.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know that many will disagree, and I hate having to say this, but right now it seems clear that the civil liberties of ordinary Pakistanis are a shiny object that cannot be allowed to distract attention from what actually matters — and what actually matters is whose finger is on the nuclear button.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;burnspq- &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I respectfully disagree. Bhutto has a very strong following - she was elected twice in free elections being returned to office after corruption charges and a coup. She was brought down, not by the Islamists…but by the military (by a Zia al Haq protege) who regarded her as being too proletarian. Opposition against Benazir came largely from Punjabi elites and wealthy feudal landlord families. Bhutto was attempting economic and nationalist reform, opposing feudalism and monopolism, which she blamed for the destabilization of Pakistan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bhutto is more popular than you may think, and actually captures the suport of a lot of the poor that have gravitated to the Islamist parties simply because they have no other outlet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is those in the military that have a strong “Green” (here meaning Islamist) affiliation. That’s why there has been so much difficulty in dealing with extremist Islam in Pakistan…many in the military are themselves extremists. And the next military dictator may very well be one of those…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not willing to accept your bet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1079264"><em>burnspbesq @ 201</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1079099"><em>TexBetsy @ 43</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Musharraf’s crackdown could fuel Islamic insurgency in Pakistan<br />
<a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/21120.html">http://www.mcclatchydc.com/hom&#8230;..21120.html</a></p>
<p>WASHINGTON — President Pervez Musharraf’s imposition of emergency rule in Pakistan, which he said is intended to curb Islamic extremism, could actually aid the growing insurgency by militants allied with al Qaida and the Taliban, U.S. officials and experts warned Monday.</p>
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<p>Pakistan is actually quite simple.  We have no alternative but to double down on Musharraf.  Bhutto isn’t a viable alternative — the fundies and their pals in al-Qaida and the Taliban will never consent to be governed by a leader who lacks a Y chromosome.  If Musharraf goes, inevitably the fundies and their pals get their fingers on the nuclear button, and India will (rightly or wrongly) see itself as having no alternative but to launch a pre-emptive strike.  Unless we do it first.</p>
<p>I know that many will disagree, and I hate having to say this, but right now it seems clear that the civil liberties of ordinary Pakistanis are a shiny object that cannot be allowed to distract attention from what actually matters — and what actually matters is whose finger is on the nuclear button.</p>
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<p>burnspq- </p>
<p>I respectfully disagree. Bhutto has a very strong following &#8211; she was elected twice in free elections being returned to office after corruption charges and a coup. She was brought down, not by the Islamists…but by the military (by a Zia al Haq protege) who regarded her as being too proletarian. Opposition against Benazir came largely from Punjabi elites and wealthy feudal landlord families. Bhutto was attempting economic and nationalist reform, opposing feudalism and monopolism, which she blamed for the destabilization of Pakistan.</p>
<p>Bhutto is more popular than you may think, and actually captures the suport of a lot of the poor that have gravitated to the Islamist parties simply because they have no other outlet.</p>
<p>It is those in the military that have a strong “Green” (here meaning Islamist) affiliation. That’s why there has been so much difficulty in dealing with extremist Islam in Pakistan…many in the military are themselves extremists. And the next military dictator may very well be one of those…</p>
<p>I’m not willing to accept your bet.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1079192&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Suzanne @ 131&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1079189&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 129&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Up to $4.07 million.  I wonder if the WaPoO will even cover this?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;only if they can make a dem look bad in contrast&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was in the NY Times…so I imagine WashPo has something, too. I’m just wondering how so much can be raised in one day? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who is behind this vast amount of money?…How did he recruit people to the “campaign”? Who are the large contributors? FDL and BlueAmerica struggle to get a few hundred thousand dollars for candidates…yet Paul is able to raise this much in one day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Something smells! And to use the whole “V for Vendetta” theme when  Paul is a pro-life, anti-immigration - government should only be exist for police/military type…oh wait what was V’s actual philosophy for the futures anyway…now it makes perfect sense! Ron Paul and his followers believe they are “V”!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1079192"><em>Suzanne @ 131</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1079189"><em>TeddySanFran @ 129</em></a></p>
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Up to $4.07 million.  I wonder if the WaPoO will even cover this?</p>
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<p>only if they can make a dem look bad in contrast</p>
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<p>It was in the NY Times…so I imagine WashPo has something, too. I’m just wondering how so much can be raised in one day? </p>
<p>Who is behind this vast amount of money?…How did he recruit people to the “campaign”? Who are the large contributors? FDL and BlueAmerica struggle to get a few hundred thousand dollars for candidates…yet Paul is able to raise this much in one day.</p>
<p>Something smells! And to use the whole “V for Vendetta” theme when  Paul is a pro-life, anti-immigration &#8211; government should only be exist for police/military type…oh wait what was V’s actual philosophy for the futures anyway…now it makes perfect sense! Ron Paul and his followers believe they are “V”!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan - NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan - NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;we are bringing the Iraqi people the freedom of the grave and the democracy of death&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are bringing the Iraqi people the freedom of the grave and the democracy of death</p>
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		<title>By: burnspbesq</title>
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		<dc:creator>burnspbesq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1079193&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TexBetsy @ 132&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyone up for &lt;a href=&quot;http://mydinnertable.typepad.com/home/images/cheese_pizza_1.jpg&quot;&gt;pizza&lt;/a&gt;?  I’ll eat my slice in bed.  Early day tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Night all.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone up for pizza?  That’s a rhetorical question, right Betsy?  Enjoy yours, and sleep well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1079193"><em>TexBetsy @ 132</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Anyone up for <a href="http://mydinnertable.typepad.com/home/images/cheese_pizza_1.jpg">pizza</a>?  I’ll eat my slice in bed.  Early day tomorrow.</p>
<p>Night all.</p>
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<p>Anyone up for pizza?  That’s a rhetorical question, right Betsy?  Enjoy yours, and sleep well.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowdog jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellowdog jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1079273&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Suzanne @ 209&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1079271&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;yellowdog jim @ 207&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;i just wanted to make a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/11/05/brighter.comet.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview&quot;&gt;comet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when you wish upon a star&lt;br /&gt;
makes no difference where you are&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if your heart is in your dream,&lt;br /&gt;
no request is too extreme …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;( a comet we can see with the naked eye; as bright as the stars in the big dipper; a surprise caused by explosions on the comet:  see&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/11/05/brighter.comet.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview&quot;&gt;Comet surprise makes it visible to naked eye&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;expect three or so wise men following the new star that has appeared&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt; to signal cheney to launch the attack!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1079273"><em>Suzanne @ 209</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1079271"><em>yellowdog jim @ 207</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>i just wanted to make a <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/11/05/brighter.comet.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview">comet</a></p>
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<p>when you wish upon a star<br />
makes no difference where you are</p>
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<p>if your heart is in your dream,<br />
no request is too extreme …</p>
<p>( a comet we can see with the naked eye; as bright as the stars in the big dipper; a surprise caused by explosions on the comet:  see<br />
 <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/11/05/brighter.comet.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview">Comet surprise makes it visible to naked eye</a>  </p>
<p>expect three or so wise men following the new star that has appeared<br />
<em> to signal cheney to launch the attack!</em></p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
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		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1079252&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;yellowdog jim @ 191&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1079249&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;larue @ 187&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Comin into London up over the pole,&lt;br /&gt;
Flyin in a big airLINER!&lt;br /&gt;
Chickens flyin everywhere on the plane,&lt;br /&gt;
Could we ever feel much FINER!
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“&lt;b&gt;comin’ into los angel-lees.&lt;br /&gt;
bringin’ a couple of keys.&lt;br /&gt;
don’t touch my bags if you please,&lt;br /&gt;
mister customs man …&lt;br /&gt;
annnnddddd …..&lt;/b&gt;“&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Saturday, past September&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the jailhouse, I remember &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I got caught with too much soul&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bringing it back from Mexico&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bringing it back from Mexico&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Spanish lights and pretty faces&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Trip you out to where the place is&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Load you up and let you go&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bringing it back from Mexico&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bringing it back from Mexico&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Across the border is where you get her&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The wine’s good, there ain’t no better&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think I’ll get me some to go&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bringing it back from Mexico&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bringing it back from Mexico&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1079249"><em>larue @ 187</em></a></p>
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<p>Comin into London up over the pole,<br />
Flyin in a big airLINER!<br />
Chickens flyin everywhere on the plane,<br />
Could we ever feel much FINER!
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<p>“<b>comin’ into los angel-lees.<br />
bringin’ a couple of keys.<br />
don’t touch my bags if you please,<br />
mister customs man …<br />
annnnddddd …..</b>“</p>
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<p>Saturday, past September</p>
<p>In the jailhouse, I remember </p>
<p>I got caught with too much soul</p>
<p>Bringing it back from Mexico</p>
<p>Bringing it back from Mexico</p>
<p>Spanish lights and pretty faces</p>
<p>Trip you out to where the place is</p>
<p>Load you up and let you go</p>
<p>Bringing it back from Mexico</p>
<p>Bringing it back from Mexico</p>
<p>Across the border is where you get her</p>
<p>The wine’s good, there ain’t no better</p>
<p>I think I’ll get me some to go</p>
<p>Bringing it back from Mexico</p>
<p>Bringing it back from Mexico</p>
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