What’s fascinating to me about the current mess in Pakistan is the position it puts the Bush Administration in. Pakistan’s President Pervez Musharraf has done what Dick Cheney only dares to dream about in his most private, fevered, late night wank-fantasies; a complete and total suspension of civil liberties, the shredding of Pakistan’s Constitution, the imprisonment of opposition figures, and a total shut-down of all but government sponsored news on the television.
Which basically means that the Pakistani people are being forced to watch nothing but their version of Pox News 24 hours a day, seven days a week. (Those poor, poor bastards.)
However, the Bush administration likes President Musharraf, who, in his dual role as president of Pakistan and Secretary in Chief of the Pakistani military has been more than willing to accept more than ten billion dollars in (documented) military aid since 9/11 (in spite of the fact that we have reason to believe that Pakistani intelligence services were instrumental in carrying out the attacks on that day).
Musharraf has been happy, however, to play ball in the “War on Terra”. From the Center for Foreign Relations:
How has Pakistan supported the ‘war on terrorism’?
By becoming a major U.S. partner and staging area for the war in Afghanistan. The United States considers Pakistan one of its most important allies in the “war on terror.” Pakistan granted overflight rights to coalition aircraft, let U.S. forces use two Pakistani airfields, and shared intelligence about suspected terrorists. Pakistan has also worked with the FBI to capture suspected al-Qaeda and Taliban fugitives who fled into northern Pakistan—including al-Qaeda operations chief Abu Zubaydah and the alleged September 11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Muhammad—and in some cases has committed its own troops to hunt down al-Qaeda holdouts. According to the State Department’s 2004 Country Report, “Pakistan continues to pursue al-Qaeda and its allies aggressively through counterterrorist police measures and large-scale military operations.”
In other words, they’ve been just as willing as the US to do forced renditions, to violate international law, and deprive “terror suspects” of any form of legal or human rights. It’s just that up until this last weekend, the Bushies were able to pretend that Pakistan is a functioning democracy, in spite of the fact that Musharraf is a military dictator who seized power in 1999 in an armed coup d’etat and has managed thus far to fend off any other claimants to Pakistan’s reins of power.
Musharraf is doing exactly what President Bush was chiding the leaders of Burma for doing just a few weeks ago, which puts the US in an…interesting position regarding Pakistan’s current crisis. NPR’s Senior News Analyst Daniel Schorr had a blistering essay on today’s “All Things Considered” that holds BushCo’s Middle East policies up to the light and says that “Freedom” is pretty thin on the ground in the region and things are getting worse every day.
There are other setbacks on the “Democracy/Stability” front in the Middle East. Turkey, a model of democracy, is threatening armed incursion into Iraq to root out Kurdish guerrillas seeking an independent Kurdistan. That could destabilize the elected government of Iraq.
Which was already so goddamn stable I could just puke.
In Lebanon, another once-promising democracy, running for president is almost tantamount to running for assassination by Syria’s henchmen. And in the Israeli/Palestinian areas, Secretary Rice is fighting an uphill battle to stitch together a peace conference in Annapolis later this month…or maybe next. A self-selected International Crisis group including Zbigniew Brzezinski, Lee Hamilton, and Brent Scowcroft has warned that failure in this peace effort risks devastating consequences.
Add to that Beltway psychopaths like Joe Lieberman agitating for a shooting war with Iran, and it becomes abundantly clear that the Bush Administration wants “Stability and Freedom in the Middle East” about like Britney Spears wants a copy of the AA Big Book and custody of her children.
Maybe President Bush and his fellow foaming lunatic friends really do believe that they are working to bring peace and stability to the planet’s most volatile region, but (as in all BushCo initiatives), the result is the usual Republican clusterfuck, just like their policies regarding health care for children and veterans (1.7 million American veterans lack health insurance of any kind), education initiatives like No Child Left Alive, tax cuts for wealthy Americans that have left our national coffers bare and our economy a shambles, and pretty much anything else that Der Chimpenfuhrer has exposed to his reverse-Midas touch, by which everything he touches turns into a massive steaming pile of offal.
Well, you have to hand them one thing. Republicans are certainly consistent in their failures. They can consistently be relied upon to be dishonest, greedy, corrupt, grasping, incompetent, sexually perverse, morally bankrupt losers.
Bless their hearts.
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TRex!!!!!
zed !
drive-by zed attempt
fifth!
not zed
curses! Now back to work. See y’all in an hour or so.
6th? Hi TRex!
Hail, Muse!
And yet the supreme irony of the whole thing will completely escape Bushco.
Don’t bless their hearts, they have none.
g’evening TRex mighty fine writing there – and worth waiting for :)
I will be hosting an SF Bay Area Nor Cal Central Cal pup meet up at the little cottage by the creek in the redwoods on 11/17, Sat afternoon until it is over. Since I live in the temperate rain forest known as Boulder Creek, I thought an hor derves potluck would be a good event to be able to transition indoors from my deck in case of rain Soft drinks provided – bring other beverages of choice with you.
Anyone interested in attending, please let me know at ten67x@gmail.com
Evening, gang.
This post took a lot of work, so I am woefully behind here at the station.
I should be around in a bit though.
Talk amongst yourselves.
TRex!
Goodness!
Who’s this lovely lady?
You just know that Cheney wants to pull a Musharraf. Lord help us…
CTuttle @ 13
Hey CT, you get the SI yet?
Just a reminder I hate what the ‘Versailles’ Democrats are doing to our nation almost as much as what Bush had done….
Almost….
But I can never forget:
George W. Bush, America’s Greatest Conservative President
I trust you will not either and I look forward to the day we can ram the progressive agenda down the throats of the self-centered fools of ‘Versailles’.
‘Off with their Heads!’….metaphorically speaking that is.
TRex @ 14
Beautiful.
TRex @ 11
Bummers, I wanted to warn ya not to go near the Stadium on Sat.!
“UGA asks stadium fans not to flush…”
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..TE=DEFAULT
this isn’t a bumper sticker or even a “snowflake” but:
i’d rather be a fucking hippie than a fucking hypocrite.
TR, you nailed it with “…what Dick Cheney only dares
to dream about in his most private, late-nite wank fantasies.”
I’m ZED, damnit! I don’t care what anybody says.
Evening all. An especially fine post tonight TRex. I strongly suspect that Deadly Dick is in his super secret undisclosed location wanking like mad while thinking about what Musharraf has done.
Duncan Hunter was on the tele today comparing the situation to the fall of the Shah of Iran and America screwed up by not supporting him. Saying we must support Musharif..
I want my Democratic Congress to freeze all financial and military support as well as place sanctions on egregious violations of civil and human rights.
madmommy @ 15
Not yet, I haven’t had an opportunity…
CTuttle @ 18
Oh. My. God. Thousands of drunken Dawgs told not to flush? Ugh.
Beerfart Liberal @ 21
laughing
madmommy @ 9
I would curse their souls, if they had any of those.
If I were cynical, I might think that the US Middle East Policy was a combination of Ledeen “creative destruction” and Podhoretz “eliminationism”. Stupidity and incompetence can only go so far.
Beerfart Liberal @ 20
Heckuva lot closer… ;-)
Good evening dear friends.
Thanks for the thoughtful post TRex, but my brain is done thinking for the day. Will explore it better tomorrow or through the comments.
Ha!!!! Do I detect a window here??? Fresh air???
There is only one way out of this nightmare, and it is so ugly none dare look at it. It is scary, but the alternative is worse. Death by suffocation, or the struggle toward light? I want to know.
As someone strongly resembling myself may have said late last night (or was it late late last night?): Burma, Pakistan… U.S.? Will Americans at large finally start connecting the dots now?
madmommy @ 24
Select individuals shall do the flushing… Bwhahaha…
Hmmm. @ 31
Don’t hold your breath. The majority are more concerned about Brittany’s latest custody hearing. And the news media will not connect the dots for them (it’s only their job, after all). Depressing, it is.
I hope that Pakistan is not a foreshadowing of things to come. It was the first thing I thought of.
CTuttle @ 32
Do they get paid extra for that?
mary mcc, i am worried
TRex @ 13
Both the subject and the artistic quality of the photo are….
F15s grounded? “Col. Leeker,” really?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/…..index.html
Hmmm.
This is Frakin insane! Did these fools learn NOTHING FROM IRAN! We and the Brits helped overthrow the Democraticly elected Government of Iran. Because Iran wanted to control and charge more for their oil…the Nerve.
Read Marjane Satrapi’s book “Persepolis ” for a great cartoon history of the protests and life in Iran after the Fundie Muslims took over.
Notice in Pakistan its the lawyers protesting in Iran it the middle class was very involved in the protests.
What happens if they fail?
Will the organized armed AL QUIEDA types step up then to help the protestors like they did in Iran?
History is repeating itself.
Iran gets a nuke I can live with that if they launch we launch MAD. Al Quieda though is not afraid to die MAD won’t work on them.
We will have to hit them and raze their nuclear facuiltes to the ground. And if were smart leave quick.
First Pakistan, Then…
http://deepconfusion.blogspot……-then.html
Will it be us? Much talk around the blogosphere about the possibility of the Emperor Chimp declaring martial law, canceling the election and keeping power indefinitely. Musharaff has declared a state of emergency, suspended the constitution of Pakistan, arrested and jailed lawyers from the opposition party, confiscated the cameras and recording equ…
marymccurnin @ 34
If I were paranoid, I might think that a certain administration would look at Pakistan and see how they handled things so far. If I were more paranoid, I would think that members of a certain administration are sitting around a table right now discussing how they would do things differently when the time is right.
The vids of the lawyers in suits and ties heaving rocks, and then, being shoved into vans is certainly chilling…
Musharraf’s crackdown could fuel Islamic insurgency in Pakistan
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/hom…..21120.html
WASHINGTON — President Pervez Musharraf’s imposition of emergency rule in Pakistan, which he said is intended to curb Islamic extremism, could actually aid the growing insurgency by militants allied with al Qaida and the Taliban, U.S. officials and experts warned Monday.
Here’s the problem: it is grand for Carlyle and Halliburton, and isn’t the bottom line the thing that matters most?
Suzanne @ 36
There is a narrative I tell myself. There are many brave men and women who will not let this happen. This story surfaces when I am feeling hopeful. KO makes me feel hope as does the fellowship of FDL.
Pakistan is in a serious mess – but did anyone notice?
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/10839
Things got ugly in Pakistan over the weekend. General Pervez Musharraf, the current president of Pakistan, has gone wild. He suspended the Constitution, and has declared a state of emergency, as of 5:00 p.m. on Saturday, November 3. Musharraf’s goons have arrested his political opponents and judges, lawyers, and human rights activists. The upcomi…
TeddySanFran @ 44
uhhhh Teddy. ummmm …… nukes?
Pffffft. They usually just puke, piss, and shit in the street anyway. I don’t know what kind of difference it would make.
Every UGA home game is like a hurricane of noisome bodily fluids that makes the entire downtown smell like an abbattoir.
TeddySanFran @ 44
Good to see your priorities are in order, Teddy. /s
Sometimes I get the feeling that Lynne Cheney has a Giant Tatoo on her body of the Middle East and Dick gets all hot and bothered looking at her. And he takes turns figuring out where to drill for all that oil.
madmommy @ 41
If I were paranoid, I would be shopping at the gun shows this weekend.
OT,
Oh good grief! Blame the immigrants, eh?
TRex @ 48
I take it you won’t be at the game, then?
if i were paranoid, token and i would be doing an illegal border crossing
Hmmm. @ 38
Funny how strange things are happening with fighter jets and/or nuclear bombs.
Suzanne @ 54
You might be ok, at least Token isn’t an Afghan hound ;0)
Obviously Gen. Musharraf not so great. But whom should one root for? If Bhutto and other moderates would need the Pakistani military’s help to wrest control from Musharraf, then wouldn’t that be just another military coup?
Hmmm.
Additional data for the late nite paranoia..NSPD-51
link
Terribly OT, sorry TRex —
We lost a great friend from work yesterday. He was a home-grown hero and a friend to everyone in the fire service.
Good night all.
Liberty Lover @ 50
Ugh. Yuck.
TRex @ 48
707
madmommy @ 57
i figure everyone would be looking at the cutest dog in the world wag his tail and smile and not notice the dfh holding his leash walking across with him.
Gosh, can it only have been a year ago that we were so overjoyed that the Democrats had won the House and looked poised to take the Senate?
What has happened to our dream deferred?
Where are the Al Quieda why is Pakistan bragging their jailing Lawyers? Is Al Quieda waiting for the middle class lawyers to fail so that they will have no choice but to accept Al Quieda’s help?
Or is Bush scrubbing any reference to Al Quieda being arrested in protests that are trying to change the government of a country with nuclear missles?
So sorry for your loss LL.
Hmmm. @ 57
Who else would help?
LoudounLib @ 60
LL i am so very sorry.
Steve-AR @ 58
I seem to recall asking TRex about that, personally! *g*
Suzanne @ 62
Just dress up like your FB pic and you’ll be good to go!
Hmmm. @ 57
Bhutto is not really a moderate, she is just not as bloody minded as Musharraf. I seriously doubt that there is anyone approaching moderate who has the power base to take power. There are a number of power blocks, including the military and the intelligence community, who might intervene, but they are at least as reactionary as he is.
LoudounLib @ 60
LL, I am so sorry. Peace and blessings to all his friends and family.
And especially to you.
*smooch*
LoudounLib @ 59
Sorry for your loss, LL. Sleep well.
((((LL))))
Thank you, TRex.
Isn’t it yet another amazing co-incidence that the head of Pakistani intel (ISI) just happened to be in DC during the week prior to Nine One One?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO111A.html
Gross criminal incompetence on the part of BushCo — or outright treason?
({({(LL)})})
Cliff Varnell @ 74
Gross Treason.
Impeach
Convict
Imprison
{{{{ Firepups one and all }}}} All y’all are the best. And on behalf of Wes and his family and friends, I thank you!
Now I really have to say good night…the fire service may doze, but we never close.
May he R.I.P., and, Aloha, LL!
LoudounLib @ 59
Sorry to hear of your loss.
We give Pakistan $10 billion but they won’t let us hunt for Ossama? The Chimp has been played, taken… God I so want to play p*ker with a mark like him and Bill Bennet.
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I gotta turn in, too. It’s midget-nite here on the east coast. I think. That computer clock turns itself back, right?
But hey, at least Pakistan has nukes.
Alright, gang. Time for a grocery run.
See you in a bit. Late Late Nite might be a little late, so play nicely.
Things Come Undone @ 80
Can you imagine the hissy fit Bush would throw at losing? Prolly be the first time he would be allowed to know he had actually lost.
OT, but Ron Paul Raises $3.68 Million on Guy Fawkes Day.
Beerfart Liberal @ 81
Yep, Nukes and a resurgent Taliban, whoopee…
OT-
Seattle Firepup Meetup Saturday Nov 10th
Uptown Espresso
2504 4th Ave (4th & Wall)
Seattle, WA
11:00-1:00pm
Please join us if you are in the area. If you know anyone who is in the area please let them know
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=6872570027
Eureka Springs @ 22
Let’s get this straight. The United States of America, the City on the Hill, the Bastion of Democracy who overthrew the Monarchicial tyranny of King George, saw fit to send in a democratically elected government in Iran and replace it with the Emperor of the Peacock fucking Throne. And, Duncan Hunter, that unamerican asshole bastard, says we should have kept that we should have kept that despot in power. Why do the voters of San Diego County put up with that shit? Are they a bunch of fucking fascists? Duncan Hunter should be (figuratively only) tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.
This is the United States of America. We stand for democracy!
OT question for techies-
I need a keyboard that can be cleaned, without all the crevices of a traditional design. I found this one but I don’t know if it will work. Any ideas?
http://www.spilsbury.com/viewP…..d=JUM02361
Spilsbury Specialty Toys: Jigsaw Puzzles, Gag Gifts, Unusual Gift Ideas & More.
marymccurnin @ 34
Take all the issues, problems and countryies involved in the ME, including Russia and China. Write all the countries and issues down. A sentence or two for each issue.
It’s a powderkeg beyond any in my lifetime. And I’m 54 FWIW.
…and that’s all, folks.
Sleep well. The NSA is keeping you safe.
That looks great madmom!
Another early night for me. More fun at work tomorrow. Take care and enjoy the snark.
*waving to the leaving sleepy pups*
madmommy @ 88
Plug it in, and, go!
Don’t make me go all Simple Answers to Simple Questions on ya.
Something has been happening to me lately. My temper is awful. It scares me to get this mad. Yesterday I was walking Wally The Best Dog Ever on the American River. He was doing his doggie business way off the bike path. This woman runner came by and asked me if I was going to clean up after my dog. I told her I had lived on the river for six years and had never seen anyone clean up after their critter. She ran on and then came back and told me I didn’t deserve to be able to use the parkway. I yelled at her. She yelled at me. I yelled more. I used the f word a lot. I told her to stfu. She came back and told me I was a whore. I told her that didn’t really apply in this particular situation. Then I told her to go f herself again.
I never do this kind of thing. It is the third time in about two months I have lost my cool. I feel like I am regressing. Is it just me or are we all stressed to the max?
CTuttle @ 23
Hey, I’m so late. Do you mean the Honda SI (I don’t have FB)?
marymccurnin @ 97
we are all stressed to the max honey.
TexBetsy @ 90
In theory it’s great. The big kid came home sunday from his first out of town sleepover with the grandparents with pink eye. Which is right up there on my list of ick with head lice. I’ve been wiping things down with alcohol, but my eyes start itching just thinking about it. Both of the kiddos get on my desktop and play, so in addition to germs there are crumbs and general stickiness on my keyboard. If this is a viable option, I could just wipe it down as needed.
Christine Edmonson @ 97
Heh, Latest Sports Illustrated…! ;-)
chrstine e, i believe that is the sports illustrated si
That caused a great spewing forth of fizzywater here.
Well, you certainly still have your sense of humor, Mary, and that’s a lot.
Madmom, this one lights up too. http://www.gadgeter.com/prodin…..prodid=371
marymccurnin @ 96
Angry or not, Mary, you’re still priceless!
Pissed beyond normal here as well.
Christine Edmonson @ 96
No, a column by Rick Reilly in Sports Illustrated regarding the University of Hawaii, class of 1941.
madmommy @ 99
A wet-wipe would suffice, and, the Keyboard should work fine with what ya use! I’ve seen them and know they work…
Mary, I agree with Suzanne. Lots of stress around these days.
TexBetsy @ 103
Cool. I have this thing about blue, just not my color (funny). The price is in pounds, I assume they will make the exchange at checkout.
CTuttle @ 100
So old and stupid …
Suzanne @ 10
How is Monterey in mid-Nov?
Christine Edmonson @ 109
Me, I mean.
marymccurnin @ 83
Hey to be fair (snark) I would give him every oppertunity to win his money back.
You should encourage angry gamblers on a losing streak if you bet against them, their luck usually doesn’t change once they get angry.
Its a whole attracting negative energy thing.
Steve-AR @ 110
Anyone in the sac area want to share a ride?
madmommy @ 107
Then get the pink! http://www.google.com/url?sa=t…..gF5TEQIJrg
steve-ar – i’m on the northern side of monterey bay sitting at 627′ elevation 13 miles inland. it will be either sunny and in the low 70’s or raining with temps in the 50’s or somewhere in between.
Christine Edmonson @ 109
Not at all, CT just thinks I’m cool cause I’m a girl with a long time subscription to Sports Illustrated. So if I see something interesting I pass it along. :0)
TexBetsy @ 114
Ummm, I think maybe the white one. That pink is blinding!
TexBetsy @ 103
I have been enjoying your news feed..I had missed the Sirota story.
madmommy @ 116
Thanks Madmommy,
sometimes I feel “so behind the times.” And wouldn’t you know, we just bought an SI? No wonder I was alert.
Chris
TexBetsy @ 47
1) Pakistan has quite inefficient delivery systems, I think.
2) We have THOUSANDS of nukes. THOUSANDS. One nuke attempt by Pakistan, and the country is vaporized by USA.
Can those nukes be smuggled around, and used somehow WITHOUT an aerial or submersible or floatable delivery system to hit a USA city?
MMMMMM . . . doubtful. I don’t know what it would take to dismantle a nuke and make it into suitcase bomb size, but . . . others in here likely know that one.
My point?
Too much concern over the WORST of what’s happening in Pakistan.
Of MUCH greater concern should be the whole, overall picture and the needle we are sitting on WRT the powderkeg of a WWW3 potential in the Middle East. Pakistan is just yet one more inch of fuse to be lit.
Go figger, me a voice of reason . . *G*
Christine Edmonson @ 119
I’ve not heard of the Honda SI yet, so I guess that means we’re square :0)
marymccurnin @ 96
I had 2 fresh-faced religious kids come to my door to hand me pamphlets. Really young, innocent babes. I asked them who they voted for. I think one said he wasn’t old enough to vote yet. The other was non-committal. I lectured them on politics. Told them that when they started supporting the right side of issues they could come back and talk religion. But until then all their talk of morality would only tick me off. Then I shut the door on them.
I’m on edge all the time. The frustration is always there and any little thing sets me off.
I feel bad about what I did to those 2 kids, though.
madmommy @ 120
Agreed!
Thanks Steve.
News & Blog Feed
madmommy @ 49
War is good for business. Hell, this country’s business IS war.
TeddySF is all over it.
If you stop the business end of war making, you stop the warring.
This is like totally OT but you know I just had to do it.
Army Corp of Engineers and Levees
Suzanne @ 54
You goin thru the People’s Republcis of Soquel or Felton? ;-)
And you KNOW what to carry to bribe the guards in THEM environs!
Hmmm. @ 84
Up to $4.07 million. I wonder if the WaPoO will even cover this?
TRex’s comment made me want to read that poem again.
larue @ 128
larue, you gonna come down for the meet up?
TeddySanFran @ 129
only if they can make a dem look bad in contrast
Anyone up for pizza? I’ll eat my slice in bed. Early day tomorrow.
Night all.
larue @ 120
It’s horribly easy to sneak a nuke into the United States; simply wrap it in a bale of marijuana.
Great post TRex. You point out that Bush has destabilized the entire region
and added about $30 to the cost of a barrell of oil, exactly the opposite of what he intended. Looking at Bush’s monumental failures in Iraq is only a small portion of the deteriorating condition of the entire region.pain free sleep wishes tex
marymccurnin @ 55
What’s curious to me is that it was an F-15C that crashed but all F-15E’s are grounded too, or at least quite restricted.
Any F-15 experts in here that can speak to what I see as being a bit wierd that a C crashes, and the E’s and others are grounded, too?
And of course, what does this mean for DOMESTIC airspace if 700 of our birds are not operational as sitch normal? Could this grounding impact a domestic ‘airborne incident’?
TeddySanFran @ 127
No way in hell. They hate Ron Paul more than they hate Dennis Kusinich, and it’s obvious why.
Suzanne @ 115
You could get a job as a Bay Area Weatherwoman, especially now that Samantha Mohr deserted Eyewitless News for the Weather Channel. This prediction sounds just like them, every day.
wigwam @ 133
Or put it on an airplane with a couple of shady characters from Saudi Arabia. Then tell the Bush administration exactly were and when the plane will land. Bomb in country no problemo.
marymccurnin @ 126
And fucking Lieberman decided it just wasn’t prodcutive to investigate.
*spit*
madmommy @ 140
Fuck the fucking fucker.
marymccurnin @ 141
You think if it was his house under 10 feet of water for weeks he would be so quick to cave?
marymccurnin @ 140
and the horse he rode in on
I thought the great vulnerability fear on that front was container cargo ships.
Suzanne: 11/17, Sat afternoon
thought I saw a mention of Sunday on fb.
madmommy @ 142
mmmmmmmm…..for Georgie he would do anything even kiss the guy in public.
Gotta go to bed now. The brain stil thinks it is nearly 1 am. Goodnight all!
punaise @ 144
sideways
marymccurnin @ 141
Fuckery most fucked.
punaise @ 146
fork, let me check…
just a driveby before work but, if nobody’s said it in the past few hours, digby is rockin’ today and her link to scott horton is well worth following.
carry on, pilgrims. i gotta go hop in the shower ……
Suzanne @ 147
and his mother wears army boots!
punaise @ 152
and his father wears heels from J.C. Penneys.
pun:
facebook
Time and Place Date:
Saturday, November 17, 2007
Time:
12:00pm – 6:00pm
Location:
Suzanne’s Cottage
Nite, MM! SC is on KO right now!
Hmmm. @ 57
Isn’t it the deal that the supreme court was close to making a ruling as to whether or not the contested election of Musharraf was legal? And this was a preemptive move on the supreme court? Chief Justice removed and another of M’s choosing installed under the emergency power declaration – thus the lawyers in the streets.. Please correct me if I’ve got it wrong.
I wonder if the Bin Lauden family is on the no fly list? Or is it only Lefties and poor Muslims?
Suz, what’s the airport info on your meet up? I’d love to come if it’s not too expensive!
Wally the Best Dog Ever just came in to tell me Weeds is coming on in 5 minutes. He also said he really needs to cuddle now. My husband said the same thing but he says that every night.
Suzanne @ 153
well that settles that. don’t know where Sunday came from. anyway, just might be able to make it.
fahrender @ 151
I was just ready to post the Digby:
Digby
SunnyNobility @ 156
Yes, that’s how we got here. What next, is my question.
Things Come Undone @ 157
Sh*t, they were the only ones in the air on 9/12…
CTuttle @ 163
Do you live in Seattle Katymine is organinsing a meet?
loohoo, am about halfway between san jose and monterey airports – a wee bit closer to san jose
Anyone else having trouble with Hotmail? I can’t access my email?
pun, newton, tsf and npb already said they will be there. gonna be a great time :)
marymccurnin @ 96
That’s insane reasoning and behavior on the part of the runner. I USED to frequent the bike path, from Goethe Park at mile 13 or so, back to mile 5 or 4. On a bicycle. In the past few years, I walk from Northrup past Cal Expo to mile 5 and back.
I’ve NEVER once thought about animal poop not being a part of the scene. I can understand not wanting poop on the bike trail, or even the unpaved shoulders where I walk. But this runner is loons.
Major Loons.
You? Likely not so much . . . *G*
May your pup poop at its pleasure in the pastures!
Suzanne @ 166
time to call my own bluff…
SunnyNobility @ 156
Nope, you’ve got it right, except, it wasn’t just the CJ, it was several other justices too, and, those lawyers were arrested … Amongst numerous others…
punaise @ 170
need a double dog dare?
Suzanne @ 170
“dare you go again”
Things Come Undone @ 157
count on it.
Suzanne – is your cottage near where hwy 9 intersects with Bear Creek Road? If so, I know right where you are…
Things Come Undone @ 164
Aah, would love too, however, I’d have to negotiate 2,500 miles of Ocean! *g*
Suzanne @ 165
Can we organize a taxi from one or the other airport? Or would that be too expensive or hard to coordinate?
Full-on respect for newtonusr here, who drove down from SFB area to Costa Mesa!
newtonusr @ 175
yeap, and the f/b invite has a link to the google map (and i wrote out the correction on the invite)
Off to bed. Tomorrow’s going to be a miserable day.
that would be quite an expensive cab ride loohoo…
as the time gets closer, it would be great if we could pair up folks for carpooling – parking is not as good as city living – but not as bad as some of the mt places up here
still, the fewer cars means a smaller carbon footprint
CTuttle @ 175
Oh well next time!
Why should leaders who have no respect for democracy at home promote it abroad? Shrub’s main concern is that his good friend the generalissimo might end up mucking up and destabilizing his own country with his ‘lil coup. If only he could be confident that Musharraf will be able to (successfully) keep his own people down, shrub would happily support his dictatorship. All the better to be able to continue to render people he doesn’t like to the generalissimo’s dungeons.
Suzanne @ 179
How far are you from the Train station?
Loo Hoo. @ 176
Hi Loo Hoo!
That would be quite a taxi ride. We should probably pool the locals to pick pups up where they arrive and shuttle.
Things Come Undone @ 183
which one?
I’m about an hour by car south of jack london square in oakland
Suzanne @ 130
Ma’am, at most times in my life I’d be on the road and camped out somewhere in advance of such an HONORABLE opportunity and invitation.
And I know I could use some good interpersonal PR mingling so the Pup’s don’t think I’m QUITE as cantankerous as I come off at times in here . . . opinionated, yes. VERY opinionated. But in social circumstances MUCH more humorous and less combative . . . just ask my campmates at festivals!!! *G*
Sadly, this is a time in my life I can’t make it. My fest buds in Santa Cruz are heading to Fernwood in Big Sur for THEIR annual Boys Weekend In Honor Of Veteran’s Day too, and I can’t make that one, either.
I send my spirit, and wish all convergent pups well . . . Boulder Creek is a slice of heaven on this planet, as is the whole region around Santa Cruz/Monterey and The Bay. I often think of you and the region as I wither here in TheGodForsakenValleyThatTimeForgot.
*G*
The one from Seattle I’m still mulling it over but I would like to come!
marymccurnin @ 96
Mary, I read today about how you and your husband got screwed over by the mortgage rip-off, right?
If that is correct, you guys have every reason to be pissed, and plus.
If I didn’t remember correctly, please correct!
wigwam @ 133
Comin into London up over the pole,
Flyin in a big airLINER!
Chickens flyin everywhere on the plane,
Could we ever feel much FINER!
Now you sing the chorous . . *G*
go to google maps and type in boulder creek ca and then you can see where my town is in relation to airports etc
Larue, i wish you would be able to come too
but i understand :(
suz
larue @ 187
“comin’ into los angel-lees.
bringin’ a couple of keys.
don’t touch my bags if you please,
mister customs man …
annnnddddd …..“
Suzanne @ 179
Trulio. I just don’t have trouble admitting that I freak about new surroundings…I had trouble last week-end in SoCal because it was all new to me…
Hmmm. @ 162
Hope you don’t think I was trying to be a smartass, I wasn’t. Just wanted to be sure I had my facts in line. When you asked who we should root for, I can’t help but think I’d root for the law to take its course, the justices to make their ruling and go from there. Obviously, it aint gonna work quite like that, but unless there is some other compelling interest, I root for reinstatement of the judiciary at all costs.
marymccurnin @ 159
A good master can feed all the critters needs . . . ;-)
newtonusr @ 183
Just give me the rules, please! this shit is just too compliacado.
*spits out hot chocolate*
Oh. My. God.
We might as well have piled that money up and burnt it.
Um, evening, all. Scuze, while I go pound my head somewhere.
Uhoh, I smell trouble a’brewing…
“You think media critic Howard Kurtz got knicker-knotted over NBC News anchor Brian Williams hosting ‘Saturday Night Live’? Wait till he gets word Rosie O’Donnell is in talks about headlining a show on NBC’s cable news channel MSNBC.
Yes, O’Donnell is in some serious negotiations to anchor a prime-time show on MSNBC, possibly going mano a mano with CNN’s ‘Larry King Live,’ according to an NBC exec who asked not to be named because the deal has not been announced.”
According to the WaPoo…
No worries, and I like your thinking there. I find I’m hopelessly mired in the practical realities of life, so I’m always evaluating the available alternatives, looking for new angles when the obvious options are lacking. It would be better if I could revert to first principles more often. So: Thanks!
i wonder what trex got grocery shopping? do you think he picked up any ice cream?
and since when did he stop asking us if we needed anything?
peanutbutter @ 195
But Bush says that we don’t have enough money for Healthcare. Or apparantly enough money to bribe Pakistan to let us go after Bin Laudin so if we don’t have enough money just why are we giving him cash?
TexBetsy @ 43
Pakistan is actually quite simple. We have no alternative but to double down on Musharraf. Bhutto isn’t a viable alternative — the fundies and their pals in al-Qaida and the Taliban will never consent to be governed by a leader who lacks a Y chromosome. If Musharraf goes, inevitably the fundies and their pals get their fingers on the nuclear button, and India will (rightly or wrongly) see itself as having no alternative but to launch a pre-emptive strike. Unless we do it first.
I know that many will disagree, and I hate having to say this, but right now it seems clear that the civil liberties of ordinary Pakistanis are a shiny object that cannot be allowed to distract attention from what actually matters — and what actually matters is whose finger is on the nuclear button.
Loo Hoo. @ 194
I was checking out Death Valley National Park in November; then I saw the low carbon foot print..a 4k mile road trip wouldn’t be carbon friendly.
Suzanne @ 198
Marlboro Reds
Peanut Butter, maybe we could work it out to go up north to Suz’ together. I’m 55, but it still gives me the willies to go alone…
BUT, rumor has it that I can get a discount meal at Denny’s now. Imagine the joy!
SunnyNobility @ 193
Well, this ain’t gonna work…
“Bush Urges Pakistani Leader to Hold Elections…”
This is what the Chief Justice was ruling on…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..id=topnews
peanutbutter @ 196
The fire-pit was in Iraq. Too far to fly it in, I guess…
my bold
i hope TDS covers the pakistani and boosh’s reaction… KO did a great job of showing how little boosh responded… and how late
i just wanted to make a comet
Suzanne @ 206
Aren’t TDS and Colbert casualties of the strike, already?
yellowdog jim @ 207
when you wish upon a star
makes no difference where you are
Suzanne @ 206
uhhh, i fear the Writers’ Guild strike has TDS and Colbert on hiatus.
no?
CTuttle @ 208
(holding hand over mouth to hold in swear words)
Late, Late…
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..-the-drum/
marymccurnin @ 96
It’s not just you. It took all the self-control I had not to go completely off on a couple of the daytime commenters today. Ordinarily I would just have said, “OK, I know this person means well and is genuinely concerned, but just hasn’t thought what he/she is saying all the way through,” and let it go. Today I was ready for a steel-cage match.
L L Nite..upstairs
yellowdog jim @ 191
Saturday, past September
In the jailhouse, I remember
I got caught with too much soul
Bringing it back from Mexico
Bringing it back from Mexico
Spanish lights and pretty faces
Trip you out to where the place is
Load you up and let you go
Bringing it back from Mexico
Bringing it back from Mexico
Across the border is where you get her
The wine’s good, there ain’t no better
I think I’ll get me some to go
Bringing it back from Mexico
Bringing it back from Mexico
Suzanne @ 209
if your heart is in your dream,
no request is too extreme …
( a comet we can see with the naked eye; as bright as the stars in the big dipper; a surprise caused by explosions on the comet: see
Comet surprise makes it visible to naked eye
expect three or so wise men following the new star that has appeared
to signal cheney to launch the attack!
TexBetsy @ 132
Anyone up for pizza? That’s a rhetorical question, right Betsy? Enjoy yours, and sleep well.
we are bringing the Iraqi people the freedom of the grave and the democracy of death
Suzanne @ 131
It was in the NY Times…so I imagine WashPo has something, too. I’m just wondering how so much can be raised in one day?
Who is behind this vast amount of money?…How did he recruit people to the “campaign”? Who are the large contributors? FDL and BlueAmerica struggle to get a few hundred thousand dollars for candidates…yet Paul is able to raise this much in one day.
Something smells! And to use the whole “V for Vendetta” theme when Paul is a pro-life, anti-immigration – government should only be exist for police/military type…oh wait what was V’s actual philosophy for the futures anyway…now it makes perfect sense! Ron Paul and his followers believe they are “V”!
burnspbesq @ 201
burnspq-
I respectfully disagree. Bhutto has a very strong following – she was elected twice in free elections being returned to office after corruption charges and a coup. She was brought down, not by the Islamists…but by the military (by a Zia al Haq protege) who regarded her as being too proletarian. Opposition against Benazir came largely from Punjabi elites and wealthy feudal landlord families. Bhutto was attempting economic and nationalist reform, opposing feudalism and monopolism, which she blamed for the destabilization of Pakistan.
Bhutto is more popular than you may think, and actually captures the suport of a lot of the poor that have gravitated to the Islamist parties simply because they have no other outlet.
It is those in the military that have a strong “Green” (here meaning Islamist) affiliation. That’s why there has been so much difficulty in dealing with extremist Islam in Pakistan…many in the military are themselves extremists. And the next military dictator may very well be one of those…
I’m not willing to accept your bet.
seems not only the repubs got outwitted by the neocons, but also the neocons got outwitted by the raptureheads … or maybe they’re working together : turning the middle east into a giant parking lot won’t exactly harm the oil downstairs.
LOL TRex. And so true.
Some of this seems to me to be within spitting distance of the right-wing conspiracy theorists who argue that the government knew about the 9/11 attacks ahead of time. It isn’t necessary to engage in this kind of fantastic speculation to explain what’s wrong with this administration’s stance towards Pakistan and what has been going on there.
You know, once we have enough Blackwater style corporate owned mercenaries back here in the states all we have to do is make sure they are armed to the teeth, then we could have us one of these Pakistani coups ourselves!
Imagine!
Marshall law for all!
Ain’t it a great time to be an amerikkkan?