I have argued that in the closing stages of a `fascist shift’, events cascade. I am hearing about them, even across the globe. Here in Australia I hear from the nation’s best-know feminist activist, and former adviser to Paul Keating, Anne Summers, who was also at the time this took place Chair of the Board of Greenpeace International. Summers was detained by armed agents for FIVE HOURS each way in LAX on her way to and from the annual meeting of the board of Greenpeace International in Mexico, and her green card was taken away from her. `I want to call a lawyer’, she told TSA agents. `Ma’am, you do not have a right to call an attorney,’ they replied. `You have not entered the United States.’
Apparently a section of LAX just beyond the security line is asserted to be `not in the United States’ — though it is squarely inside the airport — so the laws of the US do not apply. (This assertion, by the way, should alarm any US citizen who is aware of how the White House argued that Guantanamo is not `in the United States’ – is a legal no-man’s land — so the laws of the US do not apply.) Toward the end of her second five-hour detention she asked, `Why am I being detained?’ `Lady, this is not detention,’ the TSA agent told her. `Detention is when I take you to the cells out back and lock you up.’
Last week in Boston, while attending Bioneers by the Bay, I heard that one of the speakers for our event, an environmentalist named Gunter Pauli, was going to miss the time of his scheduled speech; he had been physically taken OFF THE PLANE by TSA agents and had to take a much later flight. More chillingly, the camerawoman doing my interview said that another well-known environmental writer found that his girlfriend was effectively `disappeared’ for three days as she sought to enter the US from Canada. Lisa Fithian, an anti-globalization activist, was denied entry across the Canadian border in 2001 and was offered the choice of turning back or being arrested.
A friend emails me a story from USA Today about a 24-year-old college graduate who testified before Congress about her family of immigrants and the difficulties they face; shortly afterward, the entire family was arrested by immigration agents. Another online piece reports that Blackwater is setting up operations along the US/Mexico border and an insightful post on Daily Kos describes how the TSA list will revert from the airlines to the management of the Department of Homeland Security shortly and that by February we may well face the need to apply to the State for permission to travel. If this proposed regulation goes through, we will move from 1931 to about 1934—when the borders started to close— with the stroke of a pen. Jews in America have hardwired into their DNA a sense of the distinction between those who got out before the borders closed and those who waited a moment too long.
Why should Congress impeach and prosecute this instant, not waiting till February? Why should this impeachment and prosecution be solidly bipartisan? After February it is the leaders on both sides of the aisle — and the people writing these essays — who are at most risk of being turned back at the border. People who can’t leave in a police state are effectively silenced. And history shows that Republicans are at the exact same risk as Democrats of being violently silenced once liberties are lost. I am reading about IBM’s close, profitable involvement with Nazi Germany — much akin to Prescott Bush’s well-documented close and profitable involvement with Nazi Germany through German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen. Right up to the top of the solidly Nazi hierarchy of the IBM affiliate, corporate executives were terrified of taking a wrong step in the eyes of the Party: `There are concentration camps’, they would whisper to their US backers. The teenage son of one solid Nazi ally was taken hostage when he resisted Party orders. So alignment with the regime in a police state offers no ultimate protection.
Let us think like business consultants analyzing the decisions of a business that claims it is going to close its door in just a year. What kinds of decisions is it making? Here is a quiz, if you still doubt that we need to shift our thinking and recognize what appears to be ‘a paper coup.’:
– Is building a US Embassy in Baghdad the size of eighty football fields and at a cost of well more than half a BILLION dollars evidence of short- or long-term thinking?
– These walls would crumble if the next legitimate president independently ends the war. How about defending and expanding the basis for FISA violations at this late stage — after all, these folks will be gone in a year?
– How about the decision to fight so hard for a US attorney who will defend the view that the President is above the law?
– Why would that matter so much in an administration folding its tents?
– Why the rush to establish Guantanamo as a permanent part of the landscape and even seek money at one point to double its size — if the next President, a truly independent Republican or Democrat, might just close it down?
– Why the push to expand a war that makes no military or popular sense, rush through military tribunals that the next President might just disband, and, by the way, drum up a fresh new World War III?
– Do the neo-cons advising Giuliani look like a fresh page for an independent, transparent election or an ideological continuity of government in themselves?
– Do these look like the short-term tactics of a fading administration — or the institutional strategic bases for some kind of new long-term beginning?
– Why work so hard to make sure that the man who defended the infamous “enemy combatant” concept will be the new Attorney General?
Increasingly, reputable figures are starting to talk about `a coup.’ Jim Hightower notes in an important essay, “Is a Presidential Coup Under Way?,” that a coup is defined in the dictionary as a sudden forced change in the form of government. (He also spells out the basis for a rigorously modeled impeachment and criminal prosecution.) Daniel Ellsberg’s much-emailed speech on recent events notes that, in his view, a `coup’ has already taken place. Ron Rosenbaum speculates in an essay on Slate about the reasons the Bush administration is withholding even from members of Congress its plans for Continuity of Government in an emergency — noting that those worrying about a coup are no longer so marginal. Frank Rich notes the parallels between ourselves and the Good Germans. And Congress belatedly realizes as if waking from a drugged sleep that it might not be okay for the Attorney General to say the President need not obey the law. Congress may realize why Mukasey CAN’T say that `waterboarding is torture’ — the minute he does so he has laid the grounds for Bush, Cheney and any number of CIA and Blackwater interrogators to be tried and convicted for war crimes. They are so keenly aware that what they have been doing is criminal that laws such as the Military Commissions Act of 2006 have been drafted specifically to protect them and the torturers and murderers they have directed from criminal prosecution. That is why insisting that Mukasey say that waterboarding is torture is, in spite of the alarming apparent defection of Feinstein and Schumer, an important tactic and even the perfect opening for the impeachment bid that Kucinich is bringing on November 6th to be followed by Congressional investigations into possible criminality.
This is the “Blackwater Tactical Weekly.” (Yes, Blackwater has its own weekly e-newsletter.) Look at “Islamist protest in N.Y. – ‘Mushroom cloud on way’” — it is reasonable to speculate that Blackwater is focusing on becoming more active domestically in managing domestic protests and rallies. (Regarding this particular rally, note the repetition of the White House `Mushroom Cloud’ sound-bite and other signs bearing current White House talking points, that are attributed to alleged Muslim protesters in New York City. The US has a long history of using agents provocateurs — people dressed as those they are targeting, who pose as conveying a more violent or threatening message than that of the real group itself or who commit acts of violence to stigmatize the group. The Cointelpro program of the 1970’s discredited many rallies in this way. An alleged or infiltrated violent, threatening Muslim rally would be the perfect defensible trigger for a Blackwater response.)
See also that Blackwater may be exploring the management of private flights in US airports because of a threat or `threat’ to private aircraft. (”Extremists may target private US planes: TSA.”) This entry point to the air travel system would seem defensible — after all Blackwater personnel do in fact guard airports around the world, for example in Bosnia. The danger is that a bleeding of Blackwater into US airport security in general would affect a coup in essence — quite quickly and serenely — even as a coup in fact need not be declared. It is a short step from managing private plane and private airport security to aiding the TSA — which is a branch of Homeland Security — and Homeland Security and Blackwater have already worked in alliance with one another in New Orleans. A TSA agent blogged about having signed up for Blackwater — at ten thousand a month, which is a lot more than TSA agents make now and a real incentive — but I have no evidence of reverse movement. The White House recently announced that the Watch List and No-Fly List together have 775,000 citizens and that they are adding 20,000 A MONTH. This trend on both sides, if not confronted, points to an easy slide to a paramilitarized domestic flight experience in the US and a routine aggressive searching of hundreds of thousands of citizens, the growth being exponential enough so that being aggressively searched could easily soon become a common experience at airports. Nothing at present prevents Blackwater agents from being deployed to help or replace the TSA domestically. Or from being deployed at the next New York City rally such as the one that is being featured on their website. And airports being the lifeline of freedom, if you are scared to fly or can be bullied, interrogated, tasered or worse when flying, you are no longer free. History shows that there is no easy retroactive movement toward a free society once travel is truly restricted.
The Mukasey hesitation on torture is our cue to call a halt to these crimes. (By the way, strapping victims to boards to prepare them for torture was common at Buchenwald.)
Congress must ask:
– What is torture?
– Has it happened?
– Who ordered it?
– How high up the chain of command does this go?
– And what does our system of laws say about such crimes and those who commit them?
If it takes hearings and possible prosecutions to restore the rule of law and maintain a free society, then it is past time for the hearings to begin.
(Graphic from Blackwater via Common Dreams.)
Related posts:
- Scahill: Blackwater Rent-an-Assassin Service Integral to Bush Counterterrorism Plan
- Blackwater Bribed Iraqi Officials After Nissour Square Massacre
- Come Saturday Morning: The Coup Next Door
- GRITtv Live: Goldman Sachs – Risk Takers or Coup Makers?
- Obama: If Private Insurers are Such Crack Businesses, How Can “Incompetent” Government Put Them Out of Business?





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Naomi! How wonderful to see you here again.!
Naomi, Busharraff has effectively ended democracy in America.
We even have soldiers dying in Iraq of “non-combat related” explosions.
That’s what the DOD says.
-GSD
when did this happen? do you have a link?
i’m on a listserve she posts to – her last post was 10/26… no one has posted that anything has happened to her. i’m a bit freaked now.
GSD @ 2
What do you mean? I keep hearing about Blackwater drawing their guns on US soldiers in Iraq and various kinds of friendly fire — this is something I haven’t heard of — can you tell me?
selise @ 3
I don’t have a link — I did not hear this firsthand. I heard it from my publisher’s camerawoman and when I checked with my publsiher this is what I was told. I can try to report it out more fully.
this article scared the shit out of me.
Welcome Naomi
Can you tell us if you are treated as if you were crazy for these views? I applaud you for you courage.
Randi Rhodes and Thom Hartman too are screaming a warning…thanks for being here . I will read comments with interest.
They won’t ask these questions.
naomi wolf @ 5
thank you!
We are truly doomed.
Naomi, it is the reporting of the DOD. It is just more rabbit hole stuff.
Check the link.
It says the soldier died on a ‘non-hostile explosion’.
It seems the DOD is dickering with the facts even more now.
The Bush’s Noble Rot is seeping into all corners of America, unabated.
Just like the statistics from the Dept. of Labor showing job increases just in time to take some sting out of the horrible economic news.
There is nothing that comes from the government that is to be believed anymore.
-GSD
We must learn our history.
The key in all of that was W. Averell Harriman.
Harriman financed the Nazis and the Soviets simultaneously. Prescott Bush was a Harriman protege. George H. W. Bush and his son carry on the Regime-Change Legacy of Averell Harriman (who engineered the overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran, among others).
Welcome, Naomi.
From what I’ve read of waterboarding, it’s not only torture, but one of the worst kinds. You’re literally drowning — your lungs are filling up with water. They just count on reviving you at the last minute.
Some folks like to give off the impression that somebody just throws a wet dishrag on your face.
Do you think we will have an election next Nov or will it be a fixed election?
Only in Bush World would the Bin Ladin family get a personal FBI escourt out of the United States after 9/11 while Lefties get interogated trying to come in to the US.
Are any Right Wing Nazi holecoust deniers getting stopped. Why did we become the enemy?
Because we point out the obvious?
G.W its been a few years you lost the Iraq war. Ossama is laughing at you! Your economy is a joke. You have single handedly disproved every Conservative Idea I have ever heard of for at least a generation.
Unlike Hitler you are losing the wars which you used as an Emergency/Excuse to take away our freedom’s.
Go ahead pray for another Terror Attack so you can declare martial law. Your the one who has let Ossama go free all these years. Tell me again about your war on terror where not a single American solder is looking for Ossama in Pakistan.
MufsMom @ 10
I did not mean to frighten anyone unnecessarily and certainly I need to give you all more confirmed information about the report I got regarding the Canadian detention. I will send it in as soon as I get the information from my publsiehr so you all can follow up. So far at least before this post my argument has been treated all too seriously; I expected a lot more `you are crazy’ reaction. This is an aggregate of scarier examples and some hypotheticals so this is the most disturbing essay yet of course — but the people whom I am hearing from, Anne Summers for example who went on the record and checked her quites with me, are extremely credible. We should try not to simply be frightened if possible — we should try to sound the alarm and open hearings. That has to be our goal. And we have time to push back against the TSA regulations. But yes, I am pretty worried.
dov12348 @ 13
Some nitwit called in on NPR and said that it is impossible for the lungs to fill with water because the waterboardee is is on a slope with their head downwards, so water cannot go uphill.
Said nitwit not understanding what aspiration is.
Pathetic.
We’ve become a nation of armchair torturers.
-GSD
I think I am more alarmed than most people and certainly more than most people in the mainstream press because, since the book came out, I am the recipient of so many of these narratives and people send me many developments that are not being properly covered. For instance Mark Crispin Miller, the very well respected author of Fooled Again and professor at NYU, sent me the original source for the TSA regulations which was actually published in the UK. So I am in an unusual position to ve receiving things that collectively
make up a more alarming picture than I would see otherwise. If I can figure out this technology I will send you that link.
naomi wolf @ 16
You wake up one morning to learn that Bu’ush has pulled a Musharraf (using nearly the exact language in Musharraf’s emergency decree). “Paramilitary forces” (e.g., Blackwater types) have taken up positions everywhere and civilian movements are utterly restricted.
Tinfoil?
Maybe.
Busharraff.
-GSD
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2…..data_hell/
Hooray! I did it.
You are not crazy, there are too many confirming pieces in place these days.
Which is what’s scary as hell. We keep prodding our so-called democratic congress to put the brakes on yet they seem content to careen obliviously down the hill.
I’m less afraid of global warming, there’s all kinds of these we as individuals can do for an aggregate effect. But I don’t know where to start with this kind of thing (although I’ve been supporting the protests at the Blackwater compound in San Diego).
GSD @ 20
Bu’usharraf of Bu’ushistan.
Hi Naomi.
Another facet of the Police State has to be how they’ve eliminated all the “walls” between the databases of all of the law enforcement, intelligence, surveillance, financial, credit bureaus, medical, professional, and legal agencies-which essentially transforms all these disparate entities into ONE. We’ve seen this before-in the USSR. It was called the KGB.
Now why would we want an American KGB?
MufsMom @ 10
Hell no!
We have two things on our side — the internet and cell phone cameras.
They will watch us — and we will watch them.
And there’s way more of us!
BobbyG @ 19
With all due respect Bobby, there ain’t that many blackwater types to do that.
dakine01 @ 26
Maybe. Doesn’t take many. I would not be so sanguine.
Naomi – have you personally had any trouble traveling?
What does it take to get our Democratic Presidential Candidates to stand up for our rights and use this Issue to rally people?
You wake up one morning to learn that Bu’ush has pulled a Musharraf (using nearly the exact language in Musharraf’s emergency decree). “Paramilitary forces” (e.g., Blackwater types) have taken up positions everywhere and civilian movements are utterly restricted.
Tinfoil?
Maybe.
This is so perceptive. The Pakistan events are so illustrative of how things unfold when there
is an anti-democracy crackdown. In recent weeks
Pakistan could have gone either way — there was a burgeoning pro democracy movement, Bhutto had returned, lawyers and judges were refusing to serve the regime rather than the rule of law; but a few of the first ten steps got rolled out (you don’t need as many if repression already exists). The minute I read that Musharraf had declared a state of emergency and martial law, I knew that the next
step was to round up the dissidents. Please don’t let me freak you all out guys — you are the most resilient community. We just need to wake everyone up in time. If I hadn’t read so many histories of closing societies I wouldn’t be so alarmed at the bullet points that I highlighted. It’s just that the context we now havce is inching toward being so classic and the historical blueprint shows that when you have to apply to the government to cross borders that is a bright black line.
Within two weeks: one of my employees (of color with dreadlocks) takes a long-anticipated shoe-string budget trip to Italy, meeting up with his girlfriend there to visit (American) friends who live in Milan. The hosts had asked for some pancake mix: his baggage was searched, all of his identification and means to communicate was taken away, and he was held for 15 hours. The plane ticket that his girlfriend’s mother bought for him was useless, and he had to buy another outright to join his girlfriend, once they realized he was not transporting bomb-making material.
Another friend, third generatiion Mexican-American, just was held in a similar fashion though for not quite as long, after he and his partner were returning from vacation in Mexico.
My level of fury continues to grow as I watch these erosions of life as we once knew it. Why are we accepting that a fear-based paradigm is the way to face our challenges? What does “we the people” mean now? How the fuck does our government even talk about another war?
Naomi, further down the rabbit hole.
Giuliani is boasting that he used ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ on Americans.
Because he’s tough on crime when he’s not in drag.
-GSD
BobbyG @ 19
If history has taught us anything — there is no limit to the criminality these people are capable of.
OldCoastie @ 28
I was off the watch list for about two years. Last week when I flew from Australia to LA I found the four S’s back on my boarding pass. Otherwise no.
BobbyG @ 27
IIRC, there are only approx 1k direct blackwater employees. Maybe 10k-15K counting contractors. How much trouble are they having with a nominally unarmed population in Iraq of however many million?
I am not sanguine, but I also refuse to let them be the bogeyman.
Sorry kids, it’s me again with another OT question: has there been a transcript of Mulkasey’s testimony re his Senate confirmation hearing published anywhere (I can’t find it). I watched both days on C-SPAN, and remember him saying something to the effect that he would not enforce a Contempt of Congress finding against Bush.
Still looking, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
p.s. Hi Naomi!
RonD @ 24
This is why Bu’ush has such a chubbie for privatizing every aspect of government he can. Long-standing cumulative case law posits that private entities are not subject to constitutional strictures. You have no 4th Amendment protection, for example, against intrustions by private actors. You’d be left with civil tort remedies, and we all know what Bu’ush thinks of those.
I wrote about that particular worry in my 2001 anti-TIA screed.
BTW, BobbyG, thanks for posting the text of Musharraf’s order yesterday. It was put to good use.
dakine01 @ 35
If they’re paying 10K/mo a pop for new agents, they could fill up their numbers right quick. It only takes a couple of strategic locations to lock things up, I think.
Don’t even get me started on that San Diego facility.
naomi wolf @ 16
By the time this activity becomes the statistical norm it will be too late for fear.
The basis of my opinions on the subject revolve around the perceived notion of a tight cadre of multinational, malfeasant non-intellects who share an ideological affinity, seeking power and lucre, and knowing that in order for them to complete their ambitious mission such steps as you describe must be taken in an accelerated fashion…And that failure in their mission quite probably means an extremely prejudicial punishment, therefore everybody will be coming along for the ride, win or lose.
naomi wolf @ 18
Might i suggest that you deposit this material in a publically available archive? Maybe the tech savvy readers can lend a hand.
I said a couple of weeks ago that we shouldn’t be surprised that the folks who brought us Vietnam would eventually turn on their “own” people. Noam Chomsky and others having been warning of this for decades.
However, I get the impression that there is a way out of this mess. This
move towardheadlong leap into Fascism by the Neo conartists seems largely confined to the borders of this country. The Iraq occupation seems more like a diversion of our attention from something else lately. Just try the kind of stuff they’re pulling in Europe. Ain’t gonna happen.I would imagine that the nations of the rest of the Earth are alarmed at the prospect of a dictatorial superpower. It may turn out that we may need to ask the rest of the world to do what was done in South Africa.
Say NO to US.
Perhaps some of the oil rich countries will break off from the weakened dollar and start trading in Euros. Perhaps dock workers in Europe will begin to refuse US ships in port. It’s not beyond reason that it will become the interests of folks we now call allies to, quite frankly, take their business elsewhere.
Just like the African National Congress, we may need for folks in other lands to disinvest and disengage from US, unless and until the people of this country are able to set things right again.
GSD @ 32
That’s very funny. And the heartbreak is that he used to be a good mayor and even a decent guy. Which shows how fully and quickly this kind of shift corrupts people — anyone. Look at Mukasey — another formerly good man who just did something he will be accountable to the universe for forever. The echoes just keep coming — I read some Republican defender of torture referred to it is `special treatment’ and in the book about IBM at the same time I saw that the category of `Special’ treatment — a category formalized by a bureaucracy in the form of paperwork and punch cards — meant execution.
If there is actually someone who will volunteer to be waterboarded, so our political leaders can see what it’s all about, then that person should be considered suicidal. Even under controlled circumstances they might die of this procedure. And, wouldn’t that just be dandy, to have someone die of waterboarding in front of senators and so on.
Hopefully everyone realizes I’m using sarcasm and that I personally would never want to hear of someone dying in this way.
RonD @ 38
Scary, ‘eh? You’d just have to change a few words, and it’d fit right into Bu’ush’s chronic whine about other govt entities fucking with his executive prerogatives and Noble Fight Against Terrah.
dov12348 @ 13
I wonder if DiFi would be willing to have the experience?
[Mod Note; just to clarify, we don’t wish this on any individual.]
Tonster @ 41
How would I do that? I am so new to this technology and hi everone back!
Hillary is in cahoots with the Zio-Fascist movement in the United States.
Ron Paul would legalize our freedoms.
I really got to get serious about moving my cash to Canada. Do you get penalized for taxes if you move your cash to a Canadian retirement fund. Assuming Canada has retirement funds.
snowbird42 @ 14
We’ve already had at least two fixed elections.
There are many reasons I am fed up with the party I have belonged to for so many years. Chief among them are Nancy Pelosi and her “decision” on impeachment.
I know looseheadprop said on an earlier thread that it was too late, but FWIW, here is the letter I sent to my senators and members of SJC:
Astral Technician @ 42
Truly this is brilliant and important. This is why it is worth getting scared — we think things through and find actions that make sense more effectively. In Australia people were pretty disturbed at the picture I was painting and they wanted to know exactly that — what the international community could do to crush this tendency. Economic sanctions were proposed. Though I gather that even my saying that may be criminal now since a new law that was passed in April — I will send in the link when I am done here if you like — defines `terrorist’ so loosely that `coercing’ the government in one category.
MarkH @ 44
Lets ask a GOP Presidential Candidate at the next debate if he would volunteer to be waterboarded on TV just to show the American People how safe and not torture (snark) waterboarding is.
Come on Rudy Reporters get Tazered all the time on tv.
That was a chilling read but I believe you are correct. This is not an administration that looks ready to hand over the power they’ve spent years accumulating.
I am a traditional Democrat. An Eleanor and Franklin Roosevelt Demo. My party has left me.
A couple I care a great deal about is moving to the US. One of them is taking a senior leadership role in an NGO that does international peace, relief and development work. They have been involved with this organization for many years. Both have traveled extensively in Africa, South America and the Middle east, including Iran and the Gulf States.
I don’t mind saying that I am freaked about this move. Am I just paranoid, or is there real risk here?
I hope you don’t object to the personal question.
rxbusa @ 51
THIS IS GREAT. I wonder if there is a way to make that letter widely known — I will do my best. This is the exact drumbeat we need — hearinsg into crimes. and for us to indicate to congress that we will go along with NOTHING until those hearings begin. By the way we may be starting small but NYC readers we will be holding our strike for the constitution tuesday at lunchtime in Union Square and you all can organize your own events by going to sitdownfortheconstitution.org. We will be reading the constitution and the bill of rights and singing.
Naomi,
I am afraid for the long term and I think you book did a good job of describing why we should be afraid. But your post seems a bit premature. The answer to your quiz about why the administration is proceeding at full speed to implement it’s agenda is that it is because they know that the more they can entrench the government in something, the harder it will be for a new administration to change it. I don’t worry about Bush’s coup, I worry about the precedents he has made in this climate of disenfranchised voters hooked on the bread and circuses of modern TV. I think the danger is in the next “Bush.”
That said, I would like to ask you why you think these authoritarian types always go after left of center people who are obviously not a threat. Your friend Anne Summers is the latest but from the 1970’s to present day they can’t help themselves from going after vegans protesting at a HoneyBaked ham store and the like.
Things Come Undone @ 52
That is an excellent idea. Maybe even Rush or Bill-O or Hannity or Legend-In-His-Own-Mind Krauthammer would like to volunteer.
In the spirit of fighting back, there’s been a lot of talk in the blogosphere about a general strike on 11/6. I think this is a great idea, and have put together an appropriate flyer. This truly needs to go viral, IMO…If you agree, copy/paste, distribute as widely as possible, and then follow through-the time to fight back is now.
Right?
naomi wolf @ 5
Please don’t panic. This incident happened way back in November 12, 2001. Fithian was released by Canadian immigration a few days later (Thursday November 15), allowed to enter Canada and attend the Conference which began the 16th.
http://archives.lists.indymedi…..00408.html
What does one do when all the choices are ‘very’ bad? You pick the ‘bad’?
Fern @ 56
I think they should be fine, or at no more risk than the rest of us. Unfortunately what I have to keep distressingly saying wherever I go is that in a violent police state there is no safety for anyone. But they would not be first — journalists, labor and opposition leaders, and political activists and outspoken clergy — as well as some visible entertainers and writers — would be first.
Full horror of waterboarding to be demonstrated. (text). Tomorrow. High noon. Justice Dept. The vol. can stop process at any time. I’m hoping it will be filmed and posted on YouTube.
Will President Clinton bring the fascist to account?
RonD @ 60
Wonderful THANK YOU!! Yes please do all the cool things you all know how to do to spread this flyer everywhere. In the midst of this dark subject matter I think it is important to note that since we all last spoke together someone has set up pro bono a national website for the events even if it is just a start and you have created this document which can do so much and there is buzz on the internet about the date — all of what you are doing has helped that. This did not exist before people decided to take action and it could be just the beginning.
I fucked up the date on the flyer-should be 11/06-will be fixed momentarily!!!
Will Senator Clinton vote to confirm Mukasey?
naomi wolf @ 51
I think the use of the term “scared” here is off by a few degrees. We don’t need to be scared We need to be mad as hell. The good news is that unlike other Fascist movements, these clowns don’t have a lock on the transfer of information. It used to be said that a lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can tie its shoes.
These days the lies are caught as they leave the lips, and the truth is heard around the world.
BobbyG @ 60
I am not a fan of any of those guys but would also not wish the torture on any of them either. And I assume that you are aware that Krauthammer is in a wheelchair and crippled?
It’s not that farfetched. You are traveling down one of our turnpikes. And you see a red light in your mirror. The pursuer pulls along side and orders you to pull over. You notice “Blackwater Patrol” lettered on the door. Next thing you know, you’re history.
I agree that “Congress must ask”. However, with the GoAlongOCrats in control of Congress, it will continue to be “don’t ask, don’t tell”.
first off – i’m german and so i got to this blog a lot less more sceptical in my view of the US than most of the readers here. sure, you’ve been critical, but you tend to believe in incompetence way too long. when blackwater got marked for inland duty, i told you the bush junta now had their own private army for their 2009 coup – no believe at that time. i admit, i forgot those millions privately owned handguns at that time, being german and all … around that time there was this report about state-sponsored church seminars where highranking church members were drilled about keeping the people docile in case of emergency. someone may want to repost that link.
well, since the reps can’t win in 2008, the “emergency” will come to fruition 2-4 weeks before the 2009 inauguration. every coup needs a culmination point/event (google “Reichskristallnacht”), and i can’t forget this little fun fact about the 6 nuklear missiles flying over the USA … about there being only 5 after the landing. so your best chance at avoiding all this is getting the message out now : the next attack on american soil *will* be an inside job.
it *is* tinfoil time.
oh, and camera phones and the internet won’t help you. using the internet this way will just mark you for a visit of a well meaning church member first and a blackwater team later.
Krauthammer is a fascist. Roosevelt was in a wheelchair too, and he was no fascist.
dakine01 @ 71
How do you get from that snark that I would “wish it upon them”? And, do you assert that Krauthammer’s infirmities give him a pass when it comes to advocating aggression against other nations?
Date on the flyer fixed now.
Thanks, Naomi!
cinnamonape @ 62
Thank you and my apologies. That is a huge relief and I am sorry we got that so very wrong. I will correct it right away with Rick’s kind help.
Spiritcatcher @ 74
Do you have a link to info re: missing missle? I had not heard that before.
The Bush family fortune has roots in nazi Germany.
BobbyG @ 76
I don’t wish it upon them even in jest or as “snark.” I also pay attention when Christy has made statements about how she and/or Jane can wind up getting visits because someone at another site quotes a comment from FDL that appears to advocate violence against public officials or celebrities.
And I assume that Krauthammer’s disabilities go a long way in explaining his sour expression and view on life.
YMMV
Hi Naomi,
Thanks for the excellent work. FWIW, many months ago I posted a couple of things at DailyKos on these same concerns:
* http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..54615/1194
* http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..34557/3793
There is one thing about the NSA that I suspect, but can’t prove. I suspect they are recording and archiving in perpetuity (for future analyses) all phone calls and emails. Big Brother can go back and listen to anything you said on the phone for the past few years, and they are never going to throw that stuff away. (Disk space is now that inexpensive.)
Again, that is only a conjecture based on what I know can be done, and what I’d do if I were planning a coup.
Wigwam
“Continuity of Government” contingency plans for the “Suspension of the US Constitution” in a declared state of national emergency. A video of one Senator touching on this sensitive nerve back in the Iran/Contra hearings.
Continuity of Government – FEMA
RonD @ 61
Not in Virginia, if you please, that’s our election day for the legislature. Did the organizers consider this date, the first Tuesday in November, before making such a recommendation? Seems disruptive, and that’s as much as I’m going to say along this train of thought.
naomi wolf @ 58
Tuesday, Lunchtime, Union Square, NYC
I just wanted to echo that, because this is the first whisper I’ve heard about it since the discussion here on fdl a few weeks ago
dharmarific @ 59
This again is an excellent set of questions to raise. You asked why such leaders tend to go after people who don’t pose a threat; it is not because they actually think that upset vegans — or Australia’s best-known feminist — is actually a threat; it is rather a form of messaging to subordinate populations. The activism becomes criminalzed and then that criminality becomes an excuse for more suppression. Your second point is super important: YES I am inferring a possible worst case scenario or raising questions about that possibility in advance of evidence that we are there — actually in advance of being there — because (and our German friend can confirm this)
all the histories show that ONCE PEOPLE GET IT IT IS TOO LATE to act and
because the possibility of this outcome is so potentially horrific that it is just simply a very good idea to get the nightmare laws off the books. Because someone may not use them to suppress but someone may. And history does show (sorry to be so annoying with that but it is striking when you read so many) that with a setup such as the one we are seeing it is simply more likely to tend toward the tinderbox. I don’t want the essay to be written when I can prove it because by then the clock will have run out. and what people in a democracy have to understand is that in a democracy we are always able to `go back’ but once a society has closed past a certain point there is no going back. So yes advance anxiety and action is really ideal. and if I am wrong no damage done — but checks and balances restored.
selise @ 9
As far as we can tell from some Google searching, this happened in 2001 when Lisa Fithian and Starhawk traveled to Canada. There are various accounts. Two links:
http://la.indymedia.org/archiv…..amp;id=160
http://www.democracynow.org/ar…..07/0218241
And even if this may not be contemporaneous, it still underscores Naomi’s points. Lisa and Starhawk were on their way to do non-violence trainings.
Fortunately, their work continues…
egregious @ 84
Yes we did consider it: the idea being that you practice democracy and then you defend democracy.
Naomi Klein’s book Shock Doctrine is very helpful in understanding how the fascists plan to implement their shit here (and elsewhere) and why. I think two of the biggest tools we give them are our fear and our complicity. As I watched folks behavior at LAX this week (I don’t fly much), I was very struck at how we can become trained to put up with humiliation and discomfort with complaint or questioning. It seemed positively plot-like (not to mention profitable. All those huge bins of water bottles at the check in, that will be replaced once people get to the vendors inside.)
People may come for us? Well, yes. Not a reason not to film. They can only not overtake us numbers wise, if we are active. If we are too afraid to do anything, there will be a coup without a shot. (From them, that is; I am no advocate of violence.)
Hi egregious…I don’t see a problem with voting on Strike day, and nothing else…in fact, MORE people can vote if they’re not at work.
egregious @ 84
Egregious, it was suggested by a Harper’s author specifically BECAUSE it is an election day in various locales. The idea being that one would exercise one’s rights by voting AND by striking.
dakine01 @ 81
Y’know, anyone who wants to equate sarcastically pointing out the hypocrisy of those who would sanction or excuse torture with explicitly “advocating” violence against them is grabbing at weak shit.
Nate @ 83
Funny how social parameters work. I had heard about people worried about `continuity of government’ plans and saw a news article about someone in Congress objecting to the details being kept secret. But this is one of those `beyond the pale’ subjects that I quail at transgressing — indeed I didn’t choose the title of this post and at first I was concerned that that subject was in the title since yes credibility is so imprtant on these issues. But
reality demands being looked at: there IS such a plan that is reported and it DOES demand scrutiny and it is un-American that we can’t have our representatives know the details easily.
Bush can’t win his wars thats where he made his mistake!
Now Bush wants another crises so he can get a do over.
AP – Police rounded up hundreds of opposition leaders and rights activists Sunday after Pakistan’s military ruler suspended the constitution, ousted the top judge and deployed troops to fight what he called rising Islamic extremism.
I think it’s helpful to realize that the goal is not winning wars, it’s spreading chaos.
Off on the business of the Queen. See everyone later.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 95
Rest easy. Super Sec’y of State Condi will handle this by scowling at the cameras. It’s what she does.
Spiritcatcher @ 74
Interesting, we in the US see as hysterical or farfetched inferences that people in nations that have experienced severe repression see as clear warning signs. Musharraf just invoked a terrorist threat to justify his power grab which happened to save him from weakening his hold on power. And yes, I am reading `Overthrow’ about our century of regime change and it is one wild example after another of hyped or staged threats and provocations that then were used as a news and propaganda drumbeat that then led good decent Americans to clamor for war (or in the case of the Phillipines to condone torture — our soldiers filled p[risoners’ bellies with water — that other commentators saw as criminal and that was later ruled a clear violation of the law and our values).
BobbyG @ 92
Bobby, we obviously disagree on the point. To me, even jokingly suggesting that it be tried or that they “volunteer” for it, is not an appreciably good idea. You obviously don’t see it the way I do so let’s agree to disagree.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 95
Yep that is exactly how it goes after the state of emergency is declared. It is like a recipe book.
naomi wolf @ 101
And if you wonder HOW they can round such people up so easily in every closing society it is because of the data they amassed — the `lists’ — through the surveillance apparatus. This is why history shows that such `lists’ are very dangerous.
dakine01 @ 69
Sorry I’m trying to be humorous. The GOPers would never accept an offer to be tortured to show how harmless it is. Still “that which you do onto others is that which do onto me.”
Or whatever we do to Muslims will sooner or later be done to American troops if they are captured. I do not think the GOP has ever thought about that point.
AP – The top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee said Sunday he is bothered by Michael Mukasey’s refusal to say whether waterboarding is torture but will support his nomination for attorney general anyway.
Astral Technician @ 42
I think that the rest of the world will soon be giving the U.S. some “tough love” on the economic front.
cinnamonape @ 62
Thanks for this confirmation!
http://archives.lists.indymedi…..00408.html
naomi wolf @ 93
Hello Naomi. I very much agree. I actually worked for Senator Inouye in 04′ and asked him about this video just to see how he’d react and if time had perhaps rendered the discussion a bit more relaxed. I was terribly disappointed by the reaction I got. Having held high level security clearances, I understand the need for it but somehow the idea of “crimes against The Constitution” trumps such things to me. Watching an old video like that scares me when I factor in the new information we learn about powerful forces and crusading private armies that are essentially the geopolitical enforcement army of an Executive branch that long since left the reservation… Constitutionally speaking.
peanutbutter @ 39
Why am I so freaked out about Blackwater? Because of Mussolini’s Blackshirts and Hitler’s Brownshirts. They were fairly small groups of violent men who were directly strategically to beat up and intimidate ordinary citizens — activists, editors etc — and it did not take many such acts of violence to inhibit people stil living in parliamentary democracies. These paramilitary for instance in Italy and Germany stood outside voting booths making it clear how people should vote so in Austria 99% voting in favor of their own annexation. And handguns won’t necessarily protect us in such an escalation; the resistance had handguns. Putting these people in prison will protect us.
I have worried in public about this happening since the passage of the Patriot Act. lThat it is happening now does not surprise me, though it frightens me. Any of us can be ‘disappeared’.
Thank you Naomi,
I am late to the party today. I am part of that small group who will be in union sq on Tuesday. I was at your book signing in NYC and
want to say you inspired me. I comment every chance I get about the strike,and encourage everyone to join. I post on craig’s list about
http://www.sitdownfortheconstitution.org. I beleive we can be heard and I beleive that a growing number of citizens will join us. We must also make OUR congresspeople aware of our actions.
Yes you can vote,at least please do not buy anything on 11-6-07. I will continue to work at getting the word out. We are putting a link
to the flyer on our website which is mentioned above.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 104
Good old Spineless Specter.
He only takes a tough line when defending creepy murderers.
-GSD
I hear that you will be on Thom Hartman tomorrow. Ill be listening.
vis a vis
Tuesday’s Constitution sit-in:
anyone know if the Seattle area firepups already have a plan to meet up?
Thx
FunnyDiva
Impeachment is off the table. Rove gets a free pass. Commutation for Libby. Alito and Roberts. Bipartisan votes for Iraq war. Support for Mukasey. This is good government?
Funnydiva2002 @111 Count me in whens a good time?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 114
Sadly, a faction of the Democratic Party has enabled every single horrendous thing done to America for decades.
Aided and abetted Scalia, Thomas, Patriot Act, AUMF, Gonzales and on and on and on.
-GSD
Amy @ 110
THANK YOU so much, truly7 from the botton of my heart. You are a real patriot and you went from that very depressed and passive vibe we had at the booksining to action and look what you have done. I can’t wait to meet you! and all of you to meet your fellow citizens and patriots on Tuesday to stand up for your country. I asked Barbara (who is also organizing it) to remind people please to wear red white or blue tops in order to ensure greater print and TV coverage chances and also can we get FLAGS — ideally nice big ones — in time? Any volunteers for a flag supply in NYC please contact this wonderful citizen. This is a perfect note to end on — I could stay with you all day but sadly I have to go — I will tend to the munchkins (and Mushroom our dog who is jealous of my focus on you). It is big, it is scary, but we can be big and scary — in a good way, for justice — too. See you all tuesday! bring food! xxx Naomi
Thanks Naomi.
-GSD
Naomi,
I think part of why the neo con shadow government goes after the left is because these are people who believe in their cause just as strongly as the right…and worst of all, they tend to be nonviolent. In my humble opinion the peaceniks of the world gather the most rage. They killed Jesus. Here’s the deal. A true “pacifist” is the highest threat to an authoritarian…is the natural nemesis.
A pacifist will die for peace and will not give in and allow themselves to be controlled by the authoritarian. The fascists need “sheep”. They need people who fear death. The other side of the polar from the violent who kill for power and control, is are the ones who will die for peace.
Martin Luther King, Jesus Christ, Mahatma Ghandi. These are some of the most threatening folks who have ever walked the face of the earth to the authoritarian…They have a power within and are not controlled by the outside. They know that they could die with peace in their hearts regardless of what was being done to them, and that by doing so, they would be role models for peace instead of war. The Fascists and authoritarians need war. They need fear to control.
This is why they go after the ones who seem the least threatening..their lack of threat is a threat.
There is tremendous strength in peace.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 112
You forget why are only Lefties who oppose the war, want a clean enviroment etc are getting stopped at airports. Also why aren’t our Democratic Presidential candidates sticking up for their base.
Even Hilary will lose if we’re all locked up! Only we are keeping the political presure up to prevent marital law.
Things Come Undone @ 49
Canada has some truly excellent wealth managers and wealth management firms that are accessible to you, conditional on paying your normal American tax. The reverse is not true. Canadians are not legally permitted to use American services of that kind. As to fees, the well-managed ones charge something on the order of 1.5 percent for a minimum of $1 million. Others require a $2 million minimum.
Funnydiva2002, ThingsComeUndone,
I’ve had another request for information from Seattle, may I send your contact info?
Also, I believe election day was chosen for it’s symbolism. Celerate the Constitution before, during and after your vote.
1,648 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Naomi Wolf and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
My three remainin’ brain cellz are rapidly approachin’ their combustion’ point…this post, stacked on top a the one where Schumer not only picks the next fascist AG but wants ta get fuckin’ Louie Freeh back inta play, cinches it fer this old broken down low quarter. Our politics today and the election farce in which we are now engaged are nuthin but a faggot hassle where we are chasin our mangy tail that has grown teeth and is fixin’ ta bite us where we used ta get kissed.
The fix is in, the entire federal judiciary is packed with fascist Federalist bots, the Democratic nominee is bein’ determined by Rupert Murdock and a corporate media which is expandin’ the ESPN format to prime time politics, and Blackwater is contracted for duty in place of the Interior Department. And who is gunna stop it… Mrs. Clinton??!! PuhLEEZE, what a surreal nightmare…Mrs. Clinton elected to be the last Potemkin President. We really pissed God off this last 200 years!
KEEP THE FAITH IT’S ALL WE GOT LEFT!!
Hi All,
I read Naomi’s essays with keen interest, and no small measure of anger and fear.
I live in the Berkeley area and am wondering if there is a group of us (meaning FDL’ers, Kossacks, etc.) who meet regularly to talk with each other? If so, I’d like to know more so I can get involved, if not, I’d like to propose that we form such a group…
GSD @ 116
“…and on and on and on.”
awakentech @ 85
thank you! if lisa had been arrested without the message getting out via listservs, etc – that would have been far worse…
p.s. here’s a pic of lisa at the nowarnowarming protest on 10/22 (woman in the middle)
Barbara Martinez @ 122
Sure I’m on facebook
Samwoman @ 124
Oh Berkeley. I remember you. I was there for Mario Savio. I was there on Telegraph Ave. in the fog. I was at Sproul and in the Peoples Park. We were on the beach with the driftwood sculptures. I miss you, Berkeley. ;0)
Knut Wicksell @ 121
I’m nowhere near that rich. But it looks like I’m going to Canada by train to talk to the banks there Thank you!.
I just wonder if I can take cash out of an IRA in America and put it in a Canadien one well will I have to pay taxes on the whole amount first?
But a money manager? Sheesh my whole investment plan is hybrid cars, alternative energy and Gold.
In other words I bet before Katrina Bush would lose the war cause he’s a moron and oil would go up making hybrids and alternative energy in Europe were the government supports it go up.
That plus I knew all this debt spending to pay for the war would devaule the dollar and push gold up. So far I have been doing better than the DOW.
Things Come Undone @ 29
Unfortunately most of them Dem/Repub are all owed by the same people.
Difi will vote to confirm the further errosion of our democracy, while she is safe in her gerrymandered to death district because people are far too stupid to pay attention.
tbsa @ 130
Uh, DiFi’s “district” is the entire state of California…
Holy Joe. Schumer, Dianne Fienstein really should look at what Hitler did and realize that as the Rainbow song suggests it Can happen here.
Contaminated fish and micro chips
Huge supertankers on arabian trips
Oily propaganda from the leaders lips
All about the future
Theres people over here, people over there
Everybodys looking for a little more air
Crossing all the borders just to take their share
Planning for the future
And were so abused, and were so confused
Its easy to believe that someones gonna light the fuse
Cant happen here, cant happen here
All that you fear theyre telling you, cant happen here
Supersonic planes for a holiday boom
Rio de janeiro in an afternoon
People out of work but theres people on the moon
Looking for the future
Concrete racktracks nationwide
Juggernauts carving up the countryside
Cars by the million on a one way ride
Using up the future
And were so abused, and were so confused
Its easy to believe that someones gonna light the fuse
Cant happen here, cant happen here
All that you fear theyre telling you, cant happen here
Satellites spying for the cia
The kgb and the men in grey
Wonder if Im gonna see another day
Somewhere in the future
We got everything we need for a peaceful time
Take what you want but you cant take mine
Everybodys living on the siegfried line
Worried bout the future
And were so abused, and were so confused
Its so easy to believe that someones gonna light it
Easy to believe someones gonna light the fuse
Cant happen here, cant happen here
All that you fear theyre telling you, cant happen here can it?
Christ , Ghandi and King did it without a gun…..
the post misses the politicalization of the electorial process. Clearly the bush/cheney/neocon violentarian regime were(are) planning on stealing the 2008 election. Stealing the election likely remains as Plan A, with Plan B the attacks on Iran and possible suspension of the election. Hand in hand with continuing moving radically fascist, it is absolutely clearly that the republican presidential candidates are NOT speaking to the majority of the American people (who consistently poll over 60% as anti-warmonger), but are falling all over themselves trying to out Fascists each other – they are auditioning for the role of Furhrer.
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Has it gotten to the point that the fascists are about as comfortable with main stream Demos as they are with the Republicans? Are there Democratic neocons?
It can never happen it he Country of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Roosevelt.
It can never happen in the Country of Bach, Brahms and Schiller.
Danny Goldhagen was right about many things; he was wrong that it was uniquely German.
If we can’t impeach ‘em, then I want the Democratic Presidential Candidates to stand up and say they will prosecute all of the criminals in this Administration, including Deadeye and his sock-puppet, Junya the Preznit
wit.As a matter of fact, you can take express your views on this very matter at The Poll Vault.
Punch the poll and let ‘em know how you really feel.
naomi wolf @ 58
Wow! Thanks! I read your book “The End of Democracy” while I was caring for a post-surgery relative and bought 3 more copies to give to my niece, nephew and friend. So I am taking your message to heart. I was looking for something to do for General Strike Day on Tuesday around here (SF Bay Area) but—amazingly for here—I haven’t found anything yet. I was thinking of printing up about 50 copies of the Constitution and Bill of Rights and passing them out in front of Safeway or something.
Which reminds me: I thought in your book or one of the associated websites I had read that there was a “primer” on the Constitution…you know, for the short attention span folk…but I couldn’t find it again. Did I just make that up or do you know of one?
Franks sez
A Presidential Coup? Well here’s your chance to help stop it in its tracks. Kucinich needs your help at this critical moment.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._1102.html
Sign the petition:
http://www.democrats.com/impea…..nal-record
We really must act now.
I included this message when I signed it:
- Tom
Got here late, but GREAT POST! It appears that the Bush family wealth came from collaboration with Nazis. The family knows a lot about Hitler and Concentration Camps. These can be very profitable, and it is a family business.
Kommander Guy ignores the Hitler connection of his family but uses Hitler to scare us with Bin Laden. OF course, the Bin Laden family and Bush family vacation together.
This is a serious concern for me and my family. As a young pup my mail was read under Nixon’s Cointelpro and I don’t want to relive those times. My husband was stopped at the airport, coming from development work in Africa, taken to a room with radiation detectors(he’s an engineer;he knows what he saw).It is amazing to me that I think of going to China for a time to be free of repression here.
My husband never reads all the political books I do(no time)but he took your book, Naomi, with him to NYC this weekend. He finished the marathon in 3 hours 15 minutes so I think he was “inspired.” Thanks for keeping us alert.
Frank33 @ 141
So, if they are such Nazi’s how come they are in bed with all these Neocon Jews?
Naomi – just wanted to say that I loved your book, and it’s just the right size to be a stocking-stuffer this year.
Raven,
One of history’s greatest lessons is that the oppressed become oppressors.
-GSD
Raven @143 Good question maybe like some abused kids who grow up to be abusers Holy Joe, Dianne and Schummer? internalized the values of their oppressors. This acting out the abuse they and or their parents faced and repeating it on a societial rather than indivudual scale is fascinating and distrubing.
To rxbusa @ 138 I am part of the group in New York City going to Union Square. Simple Suggestions because time is short. I post on Craig’s List under politics, I tell everyone to do what they can at least Do Not buy anything and call your congresspeople tell them why you are participating,try to reach as many people as you can. Please visit our website for more info and let us know what you did http://www.sitdownfortheconstitution.org
PS Flyers are good and be Brave Our Founding Fathers gave us the tools to stop this march to facism
It’s the old “The Political spectrum is circular and not linear”. Hitler, Stalin, Mao..different politics, different enemies of the state..same results.
My parents were forced to escape from Germany in the 30s, leaving everything behind including family members who were murdered in the Holocaust. So I take my conspiracy theories straight, without tinfoil.
Just because events here aren’t moving as quickly or as radically as in Nazi Germany, that doesn’t mean they’re not happening. Here it’s going in relatively slow motion so that the public doesn’t notice, frog in heating water style.
As far as I’m concerned, nothing is “unthinkable” when it comes to these people — and that includes the idea that 9/11 was a version of the Reichstag Fire, which was carried out by the very insiders who used it to justify their crackdown. After all, the PNAC said that it might take a domestic Pearl Harbor to get their agenda started. And then, just by coincidence, we had one.
So, by whatever means, here we are. But what can we do? I wish I knew. It looks like the tactics that worked in previous decades aren’t going to work now. “General strikes” that are responded to by only a handful of people just play into the media narrative that we are a small group of loonies. Lobbying Congress isn’t working — we’ve just seen the Senators from the two most populous states ignore the wishes of the overwhelming majority of their constituents by coming down in favor of totalitarian policies.
Many people, like Howie Klein and Kos, are responding by focusing on the 2008 election. They’re doing worthy work — IF there’s an election. But what if something conveniently happens that allows Bush to declare an emergency just before next November? That’s my personal fear for the year to come.
I wish I had an answer to what would be an effective strategy. Can we get just a few members of Congress to call for impeachment? Would that even have any effect in the face of the off-the-wall “off-the-table” crowd?
Whatever happens, we have to keep speaking up (even if it’s only to each other). Huge thanks are due to Naomi for your work, and your passion and clarity in presenting it. (You were terrific on Colbert.)
Here’s hoping…
General Strike attened by a few is a start and if it goes well we would like to try it Once a month. It is a start. I can no longer just sit back and do nothing. I am willing to risk being called a loonie and ignored, if it begins a movement and process to bring back OUR Country. I mourn for the America
Why we need a “war on terror”?
bin Laden has won.
He won the second the “Department of Homeland Security” was established and Bush Co. decided to spy on American citizens.
Bush is so stupid, he’s doing bin Laden’s work FOR him.
naomi wolf @ 34
“the four S’s back on my boarding pass.”???
What?
Amy @ 146
What good are the tools when nobody in Congress is using them? But I digress…
Jerelyn at talkleft covered a sneaky bill which was passed in the House last week:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..09-12.html
Notice section 2. b. defining ‘catastrophic emergency’. At the time I thought this set the scene for a takeover of the government, but no one else seemed to notice. I think we are getting there now.
It appears that Congress is about to dump the entire country into a bottomless pit full of excrement. They know this – at least some of them do – but they don’t seem willing to do anything about it.
Or they’re afraid to try.
This why WE the People must begin to organize and bring democracy back to OUR country. Join us on 11-6-07 and at least Don’t Buy Anything.
Contact your representatives and tell them what you are doing and why.
woid
in many places in the left blogworld, and here as well, the crimes and insanity of the regime can be documented and bemoaned ad infinitum, but a few things do remain unthinkable:
1) That the (D) Party is fundamentally on the same team as the (R) neo-cons, not on our team.
2) That 9/11 was a case of false-flag state terror, not just 19 hijackers who melted steel, stood down NORAD, and flew a big fat slow jet through all the concentric layers of air security around the Pentagon itself.
those who disbeleive these things most strongly don’t even read posts that would threaten their worldview, no matter how factual, reasoned, or linked.
In this way, they are just as tribal and conforminst as some x-tianoids on the other side.
Also, here’s another frightener – has anyone heard about HR 1955 titled the “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.” ???
passed overwhelmingly by most Democrats, of course, it’s the next turn of the screw.
oh I see Eureka Springs just noted it. 404 votes, pretty good, huh? Those (D)’s are sure gonna save us.
My 86 year-old mother, who has not flown for several years,was prevented from online check-in, and had to have her ID checked several times by TSA. The stated reason for the rejectio codes was “Unable to determine age”.
Why? Her name is similar to mine, and she was flying to my city of residence. The assumption was likely that the traveler was ME using an alias.
FYI: I am active in the Impeachment movement, progressive movements and 911 Truth.
If Blackwater is lining up to protect the southern border, want to bet Sovereign Deed will be the company to protect the northern border?
Naomi, thanks for the post. I’ve also begun reading your book. You are doing great work except it seems to me that your argument only describes the problem and is largely silent on any sort of solution (short of ‘impeachment now’ — which is nice but do you have a strategy for getting DiFi and Charles Schummer to read your book?)
It seems to me that the argument that fascism is coming (or already here, or soon to be here) is fairly persuasive.
But if you are gonna make that argument you have to go the next mile and say “Progressives please begin buying guns and learning how to use them.”
The notion that fascism is coming and that in response we should begun some sort of earnest letter writing campaign to our Congressional representatives is ridiculous. If fascism is coming and genocidal force is about to be imposed, our side needs to learn how to repel force with force — and we need to learn how to do it quickly.
Salvador Allende’s failure to grasp this concept led to the coup in Chile in 1973 that cost him his life and the lives of 30,000 other progressives. Hugo Chavez understands the need to arm his supporters and it’s the reason that the CIA sponsored coup in Venezuela failed in 2002.
Look I know progressives hate guns and love writing letters. But seriously, if fascism is coming it is completely irresponsible for progressives to refuse to protect themselves.
Please see Jane Hamsher’s piece I’m Proud to be a Partisan. Needless to say, Jewish Partisans in World World II didn’t rely on letters to the editor to fight back against the Nazis.
yeah but what’s on TV…….is Brittany going to?????what’s lindsay Lohan doing????what;s the latest score?????Americans are stupid dolts and deserve eveything they get….I’m moving outta here………
naomi wolf @ 16
We’ve been pretty worried too. There are far too many ominous signs to ignore.
Every day that Marshall law has not been declared is a good day in our opinion. It is frightening that Congress seems to go along with every law breaking policy of this adminstration. We often wonder if they already know what’s coming and they are trying to go along to get along.
Other times we tell ourselves that we are worrying too much but then we see something else that tells that we aren’t. I won’t rest easy until this adminstration is out of Washington and even then I’m not too sure that they won’t come back in the next election.
If the worst happened and this administration declared Marshall law, shut down the internet and rounded up people that it had already identified how in the world would all of us fighters communicate? The telecoms would certainly tell them if we communicated through telephones and if the internet were up (doubtful) they could track our email messages. Now, I’m scaring myself again.
I wish we could impeach these people and be done with it. I also wish we knew the real story behind the missing nuclear weapons at Minot AFB.
Naomi,
I am reading your book right now, I put down a book by one of my favorite writers after I read the first 5 pages of your book which I was going to put in the line with the other books I intend on reading.
Maybe this is crazy thinking but I am trying to get all of my family to get passports because I believe what you have to say, it fits with what I observe.
The death by a thousand cuts takeover of government is well on its way to completion and I don’t see how this administration is going to want to relinquish its power, in face of their many crimes. A question to ask; what happens to Blackwater under a new administration? Do they just tell them to pack their bags the parties over, I think not.
Thanks for the post
naomi wolf @ 86
This is exactly right. I remember my family’s reaction during the protests against the war in Vietnam and it boiled down to something like “those people are being influenced by Communist infiltrators” (even though there is more evidence for being infiltrated by undercover government agents provocateurs), and “they are doing something wrong in protesting because they got arrested” instead of that the arrests may have been what was wrong.
rxbusa@165:
This is exactly why I feel (@149) that this time around, demos and strikes are futile. During Vietnam, there were huge demos for years, which only had the effect of giving the right a straw man to attack.
This time, the gatherings are tiny, and more marginalized than ever — and the large ones (NY during the 2004 convention) are quashed and ridiculed.
The establishment, including the press, has learned a lot over the last 40 years about how to defuse the opposition. That’s why we need new tactics. Wish I could suggest some, but I’ve got nothing.
I have a feeling that if Congress doesn’t step up to the plate RIGHT NOW, that’s it’s all over. We won’t have a change of power or a presidential election. There will be some thinly disguised “terrorist attack” that will give them the excuse to declare martial law and suspend the Constitution.
We are being held hostage by a spineless Congress who remind me of the phrase “being good Germans” that was bandied around during the Nazi era. Somehow, some way, sometime, we have to wake Congress up to what has happened. It may be that they are just as scared as we are, but are being held hostage in ways we know nothing of. Somehow they need to enter a place when they are more afraid of the anger of the American people than they are of “them.”
They need to start impeachment hearings RIGHT NOW before it is too late. No matter that there are only 14 months left of the Bush Regime (I really doubt that). All of the craziness of the Bush years needs to be actually out in the open and reported on in the press (though I have my doubts about the MSM’s ability to actually do their job these days).
No matter how much any of us are doing, it just doesn’t seem to be getting through. Sometimes I despair of making a difference. There are only so many hundreds of emails, letters, faxes, etc., you can send to your congressman, plus marches you can join, letters you can write to your newspaper.
This weekend I took a different tack and ordered a copy of “The Case for Impeachment: The Legal Argument for Removing President George W. Bush from Office” by Dave Lindorff and Barbara Olshansky, to be delivered directly to Nancy Pelosi’s office. She has said several times that she sees no impeachable offenses. This book enumerates many. Now if only she will read it. :(
I wonder whether Bush included impeachment-is-off-the-table-Pelosi in his Continuity of Government plan?
It seems it would be neither here nor there for the rest of us, but it might spark Pelosi to action NOW if she learned Bush wiped out her position with the stroke of a pen.
Nice, Linda, the book delivery.
It’s gonna take each of us doing SOMEthing and a brushfire of doings. The Bush family has abused this country’s trust too long. (I was looking through some old videotapes of mine today and watched some of Dan Rather calling GHWB on his Iran-Cotra role and how he, and all the reagans, danced right around it. Like sonnyboy did on his AWOL air guard stint. Like all the chickenhawk stories.) Unfortunately Poppy has the power to stop a lot of forward motion on such things (he practically owns Cheney it seems, and Cheney owns sonnyboy).
Do we need an umbrella to organize under?
AMERICANS AGAINST MARTIAL LAW
Whose got a better concept?
raven @ 143
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[Drury] accuses [Strauss] of teaching that perpetual deception of the citizens by those in power is critical because they need to be led, and they need strong rulers to tell them what’s good for them. For Drury, Strauss was nothing less than a Jewish Nazi whose pretense of American patriotism and piety hid a cynical and extremist antidemocratic ideology.
Strauss put forward a belief in a totalitarian system run by a sophist elite who saw their mission as absolute rulers. This elite would rule over the populace through deception and consolidate their position of power by disseminating myths designed to keep the general population in blissful ignorance and docile servitude. Strauss thus believed in a hierarchical social structure that sees society divided into two classes: the elite who should lead, and the masses who should follow…Strauss is unconcerned with the moral character of these leaders; rather, he believed that those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right, the right of the superior to rule over the inferior.
Deception for Strauss is not just an unavoidable bi-product of politics but a central and necessary part of it, a condition of perpetual deception between the rulers and the ruled being the sine qua non of a stable society. Strauss suggests that noble lies therefore have a key role to play in uniting and guiding the mass of the population. The elite, in other words, need to proliferate certain myths in order to give people meaning and purpose and to ensure stability in society, on the basis that a populace dedicated to the relentless examination of what Nietzsche called deadly truths can never be conducive to social cohesion and a stable social order.
As another Strauss analyst summarizes, he advocates a society in which the people are told what they need to know and no more and he puts forward certain key myths that he claims all governments need to exert control.
http://www.getunderground.com/…..le_ID=2120
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- Tom
Ok, here’s an idea for resistance: starve the beast. Become self-reliant. Stop giving our money to collaborators. Think Boston Tea Party, Montgomery Bus Boycott, Ghandi’s march to the sea. At the very least, let’s not enrich our oppressors.
Peace and love to all of you! We will overcome, if not in this life, in the next.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 72
Do I smell a market niche?
Here’s a business idea: The Sons of Liberty Roadside Assistance & Rapid Response.
Combining GPS tracking, incident documentation (video & audio remotely monitored), roadside assistance, and security response & lawyer dispatch times fast enough to rattle the right cages before the precedent is set and no one notices—after which it’ll be too late.
We’ve all been concerned about the advent of the 1984-surveillance state–rightly so.
But maybe the technology has more impact tilting events in our favor. After all, we’re not the ones with something to hide. They are.
So imagine capturing this highway scenario, and being able to a) contact the sheriff’s office or a private security firm within 30 minutes–or for that matter, 15 minutes; b) deliver footage to remote servers live, and to YouTube within 45 minutes; and c) have civil rights attorneys waking up both local DAs and regional USAGs in the middle of the night with phone calls within 60 minutes.
If I was someone like, oh say, Paul Wellstone, Glen Greenwald, DAn Levin, Jim Hightower, a Greenpeace staffer, maybe Cat Stevens, Amy Goodman, or Juan Cole, such a system might seem kinda useful.
Just sayin’.
We already do *OnStar, Sirius Satellite radio, AAA, etc., and the technology’s readily available and has already been applied in various forms. All it requires is someone integrating it effectively.
naomi wolf @ 21
Hi Naomi,
can you add this link in the body of the article?
Many people do not read through the comments, and it is an important link.
Naomi,
Thank you for your post and for your book, which I will order.
To add to the list of potential nightmares is something strange that occurred last month in my area of northern Michigan (Tip of the Mitt). For approximately 6-8 hours one day, the entire area had NO telephone communication. All phone lines, were not operating. That, of course, affected all of the business in my town which had to shut down because their computers were inoperable. What was really odd was that there was no cell phone service either. The explanation going around was that one of AT&T’s fiber optic lines had been accidently cut. Communication was restored in the early evening.
The truly strange part of my story was something that happened to me two days later. I was doing my usual early morning web site browsing for news and analytic comments, starting with my home page, Talking Points Memo. After seeing what Josh is thinking, I go to Juan Cole’s Informed Comment to see what’s happening in the Middle East.
On this morning, when I attempted to access Dr. Cole’s web site, a page came up that said, “YOU ARE FORBIDDEN TO VIEW THIS SITE.” I have never encountered such a message before. I do not have any site blocking software on my computer since I have no children in my home. Therefore, I cannot account for this as an accidental activation of my own software. Having never seen this message before, I don’t know if it is a normal feature of Explorer or what. It did not look like the message that comes up when a website is simply unavailable. I wish I had saved it so that I could ask people with more knowledge than I of Explorer if it was recognizable.
I do know that I was shocked and chilled at seeing it. However, I went on with my browsing (FireDogLake is next), and returned later to Informed Comment, and it was then available.
I felt that this was extremely strange, and connected it with the interruption of telephone service two days before. I don’t know if my connection of the two events has any significance, but I have added it to the growing list of things that I find VERY disturbing about the progression of our nation toward facism.
Thank you for the opportunity to tell someone about this weird occurrence.
Kathy P
Just because we’re paranoid, doesn’t mean THEY aren’t out to get us.
I live in fear of a real or manufactured “terrrist attack” used to justify the usurpation of the Constitution.
Feinstein should be ashamed of herself. So should Schumer. Shame on them.
Pray for us all.
Things Come Undone @ 129
Good luck with that (the train. If you’re traveling from Chicago to NYC, for example, on The Lake Shore Limited: well, when Amtrak arrives in Rochester, NY, the brown-shirts (literally! I believe they were sheriff’s deputies or something; definitely NOT border patrol agents) will be waiting on the platform. They board the train and go through the cars, asking everyone if they’re a U.S. citizen. Seriously! A few of the folks will respond with “I beg your pardon?!” or possibly “Is this still the United States of America?!” After a few or several “foreign nationals” are taken from the train, you will be allowed to proceed to your destination (assuming you weren’t among the detainees).
I was 6 in 1976. I remember all the cheer and optimism during the Bicentennial about how our country would continue to get better and better, more scientifically-literate and progressive and global…
… then Ronald Reagan got into office and it all went to shit.
So long, USA, it was nice to know you.