Matt Stoller of OpenLeft asks Donna about her campaign. Huge thanks to Matt for sending this along...
Jane's surgery went well yesterday, so everyone can breathe a sigh of relief and know that she is doing really well and woke up as feisty as ever. So much so that the first thing she asked about was how things were going with Donna Edwards. If you missed our Blue America chat with Donna the first time around, do take a little time to read it -- her answers are thorough, forward-thinking and just what we need in Congress these days.
So it’s up to you. Donna is a fantastic candidate. If you want to mitigate the effect that people like Pelosi and Reid have on keeping Bush Dogs like Al Wynn in office and in power, please consider giving to her campaign.
If we want change, we are going to have to make it happen. What we get from inside the Beltway is a strategy to perpetuate more of the same. The leadership has to depend on incumbants for votes while they are still in office. It's a practical, short-term stop-gap approach that sticks to the status quo.
Honestly, that just isn't good enough for the long haul.
If we want more and better Democrats, we are going to have to do the work to get them. Any Maryland readers out there? Donna's campaign is looking for some volunteers. Anyone who can do so? We're definitely looking for some donors -- because early numbers in a campaign have a big impact, and we'd love to help Donna shake things up any way we can. As a local MD newspaper shows, keeping up with the PAC money pouring in to incumbant Al Wynn's coffers is a big job:
...Seventy of Edward’s 89 contributors had addresses outside of Maryland, according to her report. For Wynn, 88 of his 124 donors were not from his state.
Wynn’s campaign also relied heavily on donations from trade groups, unions and major corporations. Wynn reported that $66,450 – a little more than half of his quarterly donations – came from political action committees. To date, more than $293,000 of his campaign funds have come from the groups.
Wynn’s donor groups included the AFL-CIO and the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) labor unions, the tobacco company Altria, cable giant Comcast and both Coca-Cola and Pepsi, as well as numerous doctors....
That's a whole lotta PAC money. To help Donna be competitive, we need to step up. We've seen that aggregated donations in the $10s and $20s from people who want change can be more powerful than a fat cat PAC. So far, we've raised $17,845.25 for Donna's campaign -- just in the last few days from 369 donors. And a rough total of donations from across the blogs reaches $50,608.25, according to Howie, over the same time period (including our total). You guys are amazing! We are over halfway to our goal of $100,000 for Donna -- excellent!
Your donation today can make a difference for Donna -- and for our goal of more and better Democrats.
One race at a time, we are going to make the Beltway a better place. Plus, big totals for challenging progressives scare the bejeebers out of the Beltway Brahmins. If you need more incentive, this is it. I can't think of a group of people more in need of a good, wake the hell up shake. Can you help today? Go Donna!
Login Here
Spotlight



Support this site!
Keep
up with news
Advertise on Firedoglake
Send
us your tips
Make us your homepage
About Firedoglake
Advanced search


RSS/XML Feed
Christy!
Yeah, I got an email about Donna this morning from Jane and Matt (Stoller).
I was at the Lake when Donna had her Blue America chat. I donated and also she’s now one of my Facebook friends. I think she’s terrific too!
I am just not paying attention! Once again I missed a zed by reading first. I am such a wanker. ;-)
I gave a couple of days ago. Will give more in the future.
And most welcome news about Jane!
(I’ve notified people below about new thread…)
There is a facebook group She Should Run
now to go back and read.
But back to the topic. I get e-mails from Donna’s campaign because of my giving the last go ’round. I’ve got a few moments right now, so I will give again today. I love her.
Good morning, Miss Christy.
Darned chilly at my house this morning. Glad to read Jane’s news - she is superhuman, that woman.
I saw my state senator at a fancy function last night. He was being collegial with all the old dems that were there to honor the man of the hour. It was interesting to see which ones had once been Democrats and with ones did the switch when John Connally made it Ok to do so here in Texas. The only one who was still a Dem through and through was former senator and Clinton ambassador Bob Krueger. I don’t think old Governor Briscoe counts, even though I think he may still be a democrat.
More better women candidates. Here, here. As soon as I deal with my credit card fiasco. Still dealing with some bogus online escort charges. How does this crap happen?
needed that, thanx for the update
And this is why we need more and better (women!) Democrats in Congress:
mui @ 11
In my mind, part of the issue is HOW to get more good women into the process?
??!!!???
today is national blackout day but think it’s ok to donate to donna and blue america.
Toby Wollin @ 14
by letting them know they will have our support.
donate to donna - two birds, one stone.
Another Donnation here.
I saw the same old Democrats at some rally they had for themselves yesterday. Looked the the crowd was just staffers. lol!
They were rolling out their “New Direction for America” campaign. Instead of talking about a new direction, why aren’t we well on our way? It’s not like we don’t know which direction to go here.
Impeachment hearings should be over by now, or just wrapping up, for starters I don’t understand it. actBlue
‘New Direction’ is new theme for Democratic plan
Thanks everyone. I met Donna two years ago at Take Back America and she really is a phenomenal person. Full of energy and full of drive to change things for the better — I absolutely loved her.
From Donna’s campaign website (link in Christy’s post):
Yep. She’ll be a much better woman Democrat in Congress.
Gnome de Plume @ 4
Heh, I have the same problem.
CHS @ 20:
phenomenal…*g*
Biodun at 23 — Yes, it was a typo. It happens.
Call Schumer (212) 486-4430 or (202) 224-6542.
CHS:
I know it happens. I once spelled you Christie, if you recall…*g*
More And Better (Women!) Democrats!
Donna sounds like a true progressive! I’m glad she is running.
And look at what Donna has already achieved outside Congress:
(Same link as above.)
Christy Hardin Smith @ 20
Speaking of Take Back America - Christy - I got an email to register early. Is it worth it to go? What can I expect?
eCAHNomics @ 25
Here’s the email I wrote to him (I’m at work and can’t call):
Sen. Schumer:
I know there is a lot of pressure being brought to bear on this nomination.
I know that there are a lot of people who feel that “anything is better than what we had in Gonzalez and that the goal should be depoliticizing the Justice Dept.”
I know that Mukasey seems better than what Bush might push on us if he is not nominated.
BUT:
I KNOW TORTURE WHEN I READ A DESCRIPTION OF IT AND SO DO YOU.
Waterboarding is well known and well documented. It is basically controlled murder by drowning. It is meant to terrify and get people to do things like sign false confessions. SERE (US Navy) has used it as one tool of torture and to train US Navy fliers as to what to expect when they are tortured.
It is torture.
We can’t say “the US does not torture; it is not what this country is about”. We ARE using torture - whether we outsource it to other countries’ organizations, do it ourselves under doctors’ supervision, or use organizations like Blackwater. We are approving it when we allow it to be done.
Waterboarding IS torture and Mukasey’s refusing to say it is signals that he has been briefed by Addington, Cheney, etc. that if he says it is, they will be exposed to liability.
Good. Using stuff like this is war crimes and they should be prosecuted for it.
Don’t vote for Mukasey. By refusing to say waterboarding is torture, he has shown himself to be NOT independent.
We need an AG who IS independent, who will clean house at DOJ. Not this.
Do NOT vote to confirm.
made a (small) donation today. and now my credit card is getting locked down out of respect for blackout friday.
Biodun @ 28
I’m impressed!
selise:
I heard about Blackout Friday a few days ago. Unfortunately, I can’t afford (economically) to participate. All my work is more or less online.
eCAHNomics @ 25
done. called leahy too. (202) 224-4242
from tpm:
selise @ 31
Selise,
Thank you for your post about calling Schumer. I asked straightup whether the Senator was aware of Judge McTorture’s position on torture when he recommended him. Got an emphatic No from Jonah the staffer.
I told him it was a choice between rule of law or rule by fiat. He said they’ve been getting lots of calls so let’s keep up the pressure.
Thanks to eCAHNomics as well for getting me off my ass.
And look at the dude Donna is seeking to replace:
Yikes!
selise @ 31
I like it, It’s like Gandhi going to the ocean to make salt!
Yes, more and better dems and more women. I’m all for it. Whatever happened to enlightened thinking?
The writing was on the wall. Here’s a pic I have not seen until today. It is worth sharing. Young Dubya delivers illegal, but gratifying right hook..
http://i87.photobucket.com/alb.....rPunch.jpg
Mods:
And why is my 36 in moderation?
I was busy this morning. I wrote up this long post on poverty and posted it over at Kos.
selise @ 34
Yep. Just called Leahy myself.
Have been leaving similar messages on a few other comments threads on other sites. Everyone should do the same. Don’t think other lefty sites have readers as oriented to action as we are. We need to teach them.
I think it’s time for Madam Pelosi to come to the reality party
Mods:
Thanks!
George ‘n’ Dick
GEORGE
Donna Edwards? Wasn’t she Ellie May in the Beverly Hillbillies?
DICK
No, George. That was Donna Douglas, who would be much older by now. And she was white.
GEORGE
(staring, long pause)
Well, I still say she looks like her.
JulieWaters @ 40
Damn… pressed “submit” too quickly. I was going to say– I really think we have a shot at getting some of what I suggest implemented if we get better Democrats in office and a decent president. Edwards seems to definitely be one of those better Democrats.
Biodun @ 33
no judgements from me. just wanted to do what i could to spread the word, so that people could decide for themselves what they want, if anything, to do about it.
John Edwards
Donna Edwards
Hmm… (Yes, I support these two candidates, who not only share a last name but who also look like each other…*g*)
(In homage to 44.)
Toby Wollin @ 14
I admit I am scratching my head thinking about that question. There are so many institutional and cultural obstacles particularly for women.
Christy - this is a suggestion that I found over at kos that I really like. The ability to opt-out from receiving snail mail from candidates that I donate to through Blue America. I appreciate the nice hand written thank you card that Charlie Brown sent me but PLEASE…. not the shower of mailers.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....123421/288
I would prefer to stay with Blue America for donations but if I can choose to opt-out.
katymine at 49 — I saw that yesterday. But a decision on that will have to wait for Jane to heal up a bit and then we can talk about making changes. We make decisions with anything Blue America as a group — Howie, Amato, Digby, Jane, etc. — can’t make a unilateral change like that without everyone discussing it.
JulieWaters @ 40
excellent. recommened!
julie may be too shy to ask for a recommend. but i’m not - please ‘pups, if you have a dkos id, please give her diary a recommend. thx!
Biodun @ 36
More and better Dems like Donna!
Is it appropriate to ask for feedback on a letter to the editor here?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 50
I truly understand and expected that would be the answer. Just wanted to put it out there that as a donor, I really like the idea. I also appreciate that you will discuss it.
NZ Expat, now in KS @ 52
Yes.
selise @ 51
Done.
Um, what exactly is a ‘lung haul’? *g*
I seem to recall writing Leahy the other day, urging him to vote against Mukasey. I wrote DiFi yesterday, laying out the reasons for ‘against’ (one more time). She’ll probably do the wrong thing again, but we may be able to salvage Leahy.
And when we’re not browbeating Congress:
Morning Christy. Glad to hear that Jane is doing well. I think you meant to say long haul…Honestly, that just isn’t good enough for the lung haul.
Reminder SoCal pups. A meet-up for all interested tomorrow at noon.
Wahoo’s Fish Tacos
1862 Placentia Ave.
Costa Mesa
Woops! Does anyone know who Donna’s supporting for the democratic nominee. That is, if she’s spoken on the matter yet.
Sorry, but I had to ask. :o)
Biodun @ 58
live hearing on CSPAN 1 right now on that very subject Barney Franks in charge
AND Pacific northwest Firepup meetup
theotherwash and I will be meeting up on 11/3 at 3pm at:
Blue Moose
4936 N.E. Fremont St
Portland, Oregon
Anyone in the area can join us…
I gotta go, my noise to signal ratio it too great.
Kudos to Donna!
selise @ 51
Oh, I’m not too shy. Just too thoughtless :)
Tanbark @ 60
That’s a legitimate question. It would be nice to know.
Here is the letter I’m thinking of sending:
There is no need to waste time and print debating whether or not waterboarding is torture (“Torture and the Attorneys General”). A few minutes of time will quickly answer the question.
Our military is able to provide a safe method of testing this and can do so for a vacillating nominee for Attorney General or any Senator who doubts it. They did so for my husband, who was waterboarded as part of the Navy SERE (Survival, Escape, Resistance, and Evasion) program. He knew that they would stop and his voice still shudders decades later.
His verdict? Clearly torture. Those who claim otherwise might back their declarations with a personal encounter with the technique, if they have the courage of their convictions.
NZ Expat, now in KS @ 66
I think that’s a great letter. I would send it.
Personally I think the fact we are even debating the question is a very sad statement about what we’ve become as a society.
egregious @ 56
Me too. And perhaps it’s worth repeating that link.
NZ Expat, now in KS @ 66
I think you make your point very well, send it!
Should it really make a difference which nominee she’s supporting? Shouldn’t Donna be judged on her own merits?
Remember nostril guy, well he got fired and…
“U.S. Rep. Joe Knollenberg’s chief of staff, who was recently caught on video in a heated exchange with an anti-war activist, said Thursday he is on paid medical leave to deal with a mood-swing disorder.
In an an e-mail to reporters, aide Trent Wisecup said he recently checked himself into Beaumont Hospital in Oakland after sending out “weird and flat out kooky” e-mails.“
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/2/73735/5437
egregious @ 56
Great diary.We are all one paycheck or doctor’s visit from poverty. End the stigma
As Marx said, one needs to recognize class as an economic dynamic. Why I support Edwards. I see two Americas and a new gilded age.
NZ Expat:
Great letter, brief and to the point. I won’t change a thing.
Biodun @ 69
I’m with you here. What we are looking for is good people whose hearts and minds are in the right place. We need people who will do a good progressive job. Who they support in terms of presidential candidates should not even be on the menu.
Just gave to Edwards.
Toby Wollin @ 74
It sure wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me, but I’d like to hear the response.
Jim Clausen @ 71
I work as a “contractor” (fancy name for agency temp) and got the yearly “this is how much it’s gonna cost you if you are crazy enough to buy health insurance through the agency” email. Family coverage is $245 a week. No Rx, no vision, no dental. The median wage for the temps in this place is in the $9-$10 range. You do the math.
No one can afford health coverage. We have at least 6 single moms in this group. I don’t know where their wage puts them in terms of coverage (Medicaid or SCHIP), but I know none of them can afford it. We have people here who can’t even afford the freight on the single side.
NZ Expat, now in KS @ 65 -
awesome!
But why? (I’m not looking for a fight here. Just curious what the argument for this would/could be.)
eCAHN –
I’ve called Shumer. They’re taking zip codes.I let them know that I think when I vote.
Jim Clausen @ 72
Yuppers. I was made painfully aware of this point late yesterday afternoon when I was told my position is being eliminated.
So my paychecks will be stopping soon along with my health insurance (nobody can really afford COBRA).
I’m hopeful I’ll be able to find something else, but I’m not exactly living in the Mecca of communication professionals’ jobs.
Toby Wollin @ 77
As a contractor, I get health insurance through my partner’s place of employment, but I have to pay for it up front. It comes out to around $6k/year, which is, from what I understand, very cheap, as far as purchased insurance goes. I can’t imagine what people who don’t make the sort of money I make can be expected to do.
Biodun @ 79
It would give me an indication of her thinking,for instance she might be diplomatic and chose not to endorse anyone publicly beings that she’ll be supporting the Dem nominee whosoever that may be (you know I have trouble with who and whom, B!)
katymine @ 49
I agree..I am getting a a lot of those now, both from the ‘06 campaign and from the current cycle. It is a waste of money and perhaps more importantly the candidate’s and staff time. The hand written notes are really nice but the time would be better spent going after votes. For me, at least, the only thanks “our PAC” needs is to work you ass off and get elected.
Why more and better Dems? Really, why? Don’t you want to break the deadlock in DC? How about giving some time to something truly newsworthy such as Cynthia McKinney filing to run for president in ‘08 as a Green!
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?P80004930
She may or may not represent you and your views, but I think it is way past time Dems start thinking beyond the Democratic Party to solve their problems, and that’s why I left the Democratic party to become a Green a decade ago.
Nemo @ 80
Thanks. For the future, 10022 is midtown Manhattan. When I called Leahy, I used 05478, which is St. Albans, VT, where my friend has his factory. I know he would agree with me on this one.
Biodun @ 13
this is the same asshole who ran the government in 2001 as if he won by a landslide.
he will always play the bully. he will always play the strong hand until someone calls him on his bullshit.
Dems/ anyone at home on the judiciary committee?
accordingly, i have called and I sent this to DIFI.
Oppose Mukasey on torture, on executive power, on unitary executive nullification of the law and refusal to guarantee action on Congressional subpoenas. If we wanted a monarchy, we didnt need a revolution or a Constitution.
Senators take an oath to uphold it. Bush is challenging you to defend your branch of government.
Separately, look back in history to Watergate, when Dems had real spine. When E. Richardson was nominated as AG after the disgraced Mitchell and Kleindeinst were forced from the AG office, Richardson at his confirmation hearings agreed to appoint a special prosecutor and the terms for that were worked out. I think they even agreed on Archie Cox. You can look it up.
We have perhaps more serious abuses at stake here; certainly they go to the heart of what the Constitution and our country stand for. Any AG nominee should be required to do what Richardson did. We need an independent investigation of lawlessness by this WH and DOJ. The evidence of their abuses has been testified to under oath to your committee.
In 19700-72, Dems had some spine on the SJC. I hope that is still true.
SufiLizard @ 81
wow. sorry to hear that (((SufiLizard)))
Sufi — So sorry to hear that! Here’s hoping you find something else — and something even better — soon.
BTW, I’ve had CNBC on in the background this morning on account of the employment report. Boy, they know nothing about the economy. Knowledge on that subject has decreased by large amounts since I did the instant analysis 6 years ago.
JulieWaters @ 81
You are getting a very very good rate there. I get covered through my husband.
People who insist on using permatemps do so because they CAN. There is no incentive for them NOT to do so and every incentive for them to do it.
And basically when they do so, they are shifting their costs onto the backs of the taxpayers because people who cannot afford coverage and have kids end up with SCHIP and Medicaid.
Angry at 85 — In a word…no.
Elliott @ 68
Excellent letter..because you mentioned SERE, you might consider linking to here
My input on calling Senators who are not your personal representative is that on issues like the USAG, they are representing ALL of us. Their vote affects everyone, not just their constituents. We are all constituents in this battle. I think.
Elliott:
whoever that may be…*g*
I think I know what kind of argument might be made for this disclosure. But I really wanted someone to say it.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 92
*nods* :)
When the Republicans were just about absurd self-interest, third parties were a viable option for me. Now that they’re completely off the deep end, I’m a lot more interested in improving the Democratic party at this point.
Really? Thanks. But. No. Thanks.
OT but since I sent in my donation to Donna I wanted to point out the hypocrisy of George Bush comparing Democrats to appeasers of Hitler. He very conveniently forgets to mention that his grandfather was a financier of the Nazi Party until 1942. As Republicans or the Mafia would say, “It was only business.”
Dear Biodun, part of her merits is about who she’s supporting for president.
I went to her campaign site, and there was nothing about that, which is not unusual. She may not have made up her mind yet. I looked to see if there was a place I could email her staff to ask about that. But didn’t find one. If anyone knows how to do that, I’d appreciate a link. Thanks.
Incidentally, just to be upfront, I’d like to know this, before I send her any money.
AngryAmerican @ 85
Excellent strategy to make KKKarl’s dream of Republican majority forever come true. The “nature ” of our governmental system forces a two party system..if we want it to be otherwise we need to become a parliamentary country.
This is my issue of anyone who thinks a third party is the answer… Since 2000 and the Nader mess what has anyone who thinks they are member of a third party done?
1. Registered enough voters in your state to qualify as a valid party?
2. Have district, county and state party organizations in your state AND across the country?
3. Growing your farm team, city counsel, state offices, congress & senate?
4. National party conventions with delegates?
IF you do not like the Democratic party then get inside the party and make the changes you want. Standing outside yelling about XXX or YYY but not doing anything but yelling is just a waste of air.
Ok, I am off my soapbox… now going to get my car smogged… and submit my “late” registration :(
The “Green” party has more well-served the Republicans than anyone in the past decade. I am not sure why Cynthia McKinny wants to help them.
eCAHNomics @ 90
Not to be too facetious but remember that CNBC presents Larry Kudlow as a paragon of economic integrity and guidance.
Thanks Elliot and CHS, I pointed that out not to get sympathy, but to illustrate the point. (although I appreciate the sympathy)
Until yesterday afternoon, I counted myself as one of the lucky ones with a good job, decent insurance and a fairly comfortable life.
It’s amazing how quickly that can turn around. I’m trying to stay optimistic and I certainly hope I’ll find something even better soon. But that’s by no means a sure thing.
That’s the nature of the world we’ve made under the last 30 years of neo-conservative (neo-liberal economics) ascendancy.
We’re all just one unlucky break away from disaster. That’s why we need to reverse all the damage done since Reagan began to undo the New Deal.
We need to be as bold in reversing the damage as Republicans (and too many Democrats) have been in inflicting the damage.
AngryAmerican @ 84
good for mckinney, thanks for letting me know. in general, on the national level, i’m not interested in supporting third parties - yet. but i understand why many are, and i’m glad to know you are doing something you think is right… the worst thing we can do, imo, is to give up.
katymine @ 101
Oh, too busy taking care of yourself? *g*
Don’t you hate it when your personal health gets in the way of all the other Business of life?
It’s happened to me before.
Glad you are continuing to Feel Better.
Bluetoe @ 98
How I hate that phrase. You know that somebody had discarded thier humanity when they say “no hard feelings, it’s just business”.
Re: better Democrats, bad Repugs:
For MN Firepups:
Fellow moderate Republican? Just what is moderate about Giuliani? This is one bad Repug (Coleman) who definitely needs to go in ‘08.
SufiLizard @ 104
*nods*
I find myself taking work that I don’t necessarily like because I know how tenuous all this is. Sadly, my retirement plan at the moment involves just trying to get a really decent savings so that when work does dry up, I don’t have to worry for awhile.
In Vermont, we’re theoretically having a new health care insurance starting up now, but the feds have completely screwed us over on it, so we’re millions below budget (the feds had promised to kick in a share for it and then backed out of the plan).
Argh.
Oklahoma immigration law in effect as of yesterday, making it illegal to harbor or transport illegal immigrants….
The implications are rather horrifying.
dakine01 @ 103
I’m only too aware of Kudlow, since I appeared with him on Charlie Rose in summer of 1992 to “discuss” Clinton’s economic program. (3d guest was head of Amer Stock Ex.) He hogged the stage. Defintitely become more blowhard since then.
However, Robert Reich, much as I like him, doesn’t hold up well against Kudlow, who has stellar media training and who apparently kicked the coke habit.
Off to the country.
Biodun @ 108
He’s a pro-choice, war-mongering plutocrat. That makes him “moderate” in the MSM.
Tanbark @ 99
Exactly my point. My donations are precious to me. It is an election year. Overall philosophies matter.
Some of the FDLers have been disappointed by their kneejerk donations to highlighted candidates.
I’m not trying to be mean or trying to start a fight. It was just a question I had, along with others here.
Tanbark @ 99:
If you’re really dying to find out, ask Donna herself at her Facebook profile.
JulieWaters @ 109
Yes, sadly, my wife and I made some financial mistakes in recent years and we’re not in a position to last long without my paycheck. If I had gotten another 9 months to a year at my current (soon to be former) job, we would have been in a dramatically better position.
But I didn’t get that lucky. It’s not easy to buck the trend of negative savings rates, but let me be a living example of the importance of keeping a financial cushion.
All the best to JH. I wonder how a ‘last surgery’ is determined. Hopefully, this one is. Surgery is so medieval.
LS @ 110
Just ask the members of “No More Deaths” who were charged as coyotes because they were transporting near dead immigrants found in the AZ desert while on the phone to 911.
Ya think about that….
katymine @ 117
I know..it is just sickening…what are people thinking..
eCAHN:
I knew it! I’ve always suspected that you’re someone important! *g* (Especially with that bottle of rare French wine the other day.)
katymine @ 117
Christy is upstairs.
Fresh thread, up and running for everyone who wants one…
SufiLizard @ 115
Yeah– I remember realizing this last year and thinking about how contracts can disappear in a heartbeat. So now I’m just trying to save as much as I can for when the biggest contracts I’ve got finally do bite the dust. Barring nothing major (like my car which is about to hit 100k miles dying on me) I should be fine, but only for so long.
I should add, the reason the question of Edwards’ choice for president is important to me, is that I FIRMLY believe that if Hillary Clinton is nominated, we will not win the white house; that we will lose the Senate, that we will probably lose the House, and that we will lose the right to have a democratic president choose the nominees to replace any Supreme Court seats that come vacant.
Therefore, I would like to know that politicians will not support Clinton, before I send them money.
For myself, I think that is a reasonable view to take, but I concede that someone else’s mileage may vary.
JulieWaters:
I’ve been to your website. If you’re making your living as a freelance photographer, you shouldn’t have problems getting and holding on to contracts. You seem quite talented.
Tanbark @ 124:
I don’t want Hillary to be nominated either, and I’ve said that many times on this site and stated my reasons. I suspect Donna is not supporting her. Don’t ask me how I know. I just do.
Donna seems like a great candidate. Could use some FDL love for another great, progressive female candidate in Michigan — Nancy Skinner. She announced two weeks ago and we could use a good jumpstart to the quarter.
Nancy almost beat rubberstamp Joe Knollenberg in ‘06 — 47% to 51% — and she’s out to finish the job in ‘08, but we’ve got a primary ahead of us against a more “establishment” candidate, Gary Peters, who the state party got behind early. Lots of people are upset that the party got involved in a primary, especially before all of the candidates had even announced. They knew full well that Nancy was going to run, but after she laid the groundwork last time, I guess they decided they needed a man to finish the job. Nancy is definitely the more progressive of the two, especially on the war in Iraq. She was speaking out against it on WLS even before it began.
Check out her website: www.skinnerforcongress.com. There’s a link to ActBlue under the “Contribute” button. Randi Rhodes is appearing at a fundraiser for her on November 10, and if you’re in Michigan, you’re welcome to attend. Click on the “Links” button on the website and there’s a link to the RSVP to the party.
Thanks for any help any firepups can send Nancy’s way!
Biodun, I looked at her facebook, and I don’t want to sign up for that, for the reason that I’m already getting a lot of campaign panhandling on my computer, and I don’t need anymore.
With all the people talking about her and keeping track of her campaign on here, I’m sure someone will let us know if she’s endorsing one or another of the democratic candidates.
Thanks for your gut reaction. Since, in that video clip of her speaking at a campaign meeeting, she gave Wynn holy hell for voting for the war, and also scorned him for his half-assed apology, I’m hoping you’re right. :o)
I keep having to clear things up. I should have said that I will not support politicians who support Clinton for the NOMINATION.
Obviously, if it’s Clinton V. any republican, I will vote for her, with tears of bitter frustration rolling down my face in the near-certain knowledge that this election, of all elections, we will probably lose.
Biodun @ 125
I’m not a freelance photographer. That’s just a very expensive hobby :)
I’m not even sure how to break into that business. Honestly, I have no idea how to break into any business– I’ve just been really lucky to know the right people to connect me up with some tech and training work and then I got a good reputation for it. But a lot of tech work is being outsourced, so a lot of what ends up coming my way is due to my connections as a trainer.
If Hillary is nominated, I’ll hold my nose and vote for her in general and hope for the best. I’ve never voted Repug, local, state, or national, in my whole life.
Tanbark—thanks for the clarification.
I have just a wee bit more hope than it sounds like you do but if even Hillary can’t win after the last 6 years, we are truly screwed as a nation.
Biodun @ 47
I can see some mysterious phone calls going around the white precincts of Maryland during the General Election by a group that will say “Hey, this worked in the Republican North Carolina primaries against John McCain. Maybe it’ll work here, too.”
Biodun @ 47
NZ Expat, now in KS @ 66
These guys who want to cast shadows on the Constitution, as if there were any gray area in the matter of cruel and unusual punishment, adherence to treaties on the treatment of prisoners, or the balance of executive, legislative and judicial power, for that matter, are crooks.
They want people to believe them that there is some reasonable doubt or justifiable case to be made for officially sanctioning torture, abuse of power, and uncooperative international behavior. They profit from those things. Their personal power is enlarged and so are their and their friends’ bank accounts.
Any AG nominee who is unclear about the Constitutionality of interrogations procedures, or confused about the extent of Executive Power under all circumstances–especially a bogus “war,” is not qualified to be AG. In fact, they should be investigated for deliberately attempting to use the government to deprive people of our Constitutional rights.
peanutbutter @ 22
btw, I replied on the crack thread.
Toby Wollin @ 77
Of course, Giuliani’s Plan is to do away with both company-sponsored and government supported health care plans and replace that with a $15,000 tax deduction that can only be applied to health care costs.
Sounds good? Well maybe if you make over $100,000 a year. For the rest of us we couldn’t afford the palns in the first place and the reduction of our taxes would be so minimal that it would barely make purchasing such plans worthwhile.
It’s a prescription for a no insurance society for the poor and middle class.
And his principal argument…is that s*ci*lised medicine has higher mortality rates than private insurance plans. He calimed he’d be a corpse if he had tobseek treatment for prostate cancer in Britain.
Ahem! Turns out that the numbers he used were bogus according to the British Ministry of Health…who are very upset…in fact the Labour Government is quite pissed off at Giuliani because the survival rates are actually quite similar.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/l.....-20051062/
Similarly, in “soc*al*st” Canada actual research shows that mortality is slightly lower for when scaled for ethnicity (Canada has fewer black males who are, for a variety of reasons-but mainly belated diagnosis, more likely to die of prostate cancer in the US) than the US. When Age Graded te mortality rates are statistically similar (although all Canadian cohorts are lower) with the exception of the 56-66 age group where mortality is higher in the United States.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.g.....obtype=pdf [see figure 7]
Quite simply, Giuliani is misinformed or lying about the 44% higher mortality rates in England….and he has ignored a wealth of other evidence that would show his attacks are similarly wrong. But be assured that he’ll have someone pour through the vast statistical surveys on disease rates and recovery and find ONE disease where SOME country that he can argue has “soc*al*sed” medicine does worse than the US.
Hey wasn’t Albania soc*al*st?????
JulieWaters @ 96
What makes any of you think that the Dems are any better than the Reps at this point? Seriously. You don’t think dems like Pelosi are completely off the deep end? (Impeachment is off the table!?) I’m looking for an honest answer, and something more than “no”, which leaves me wondering what the no is about. Is it “no, it’s not Democrat/Republican related, so we’re not going to talk about it”?
Do you think things are going to get better perpetuating the two party system? I don’t. I think there are two things that can fix it; multi-party elections, and government funded elections like they have in Canada. But before we get there, we need to restore democracy in this country. This means (to me) holding this administration accountable through impeachment, then repealing the Patriot Act(s) and Military Commissions Act, restoring habeas corpus, etc.
Obviously I can’t vote for a Dem in the primary election, but I will not being throwing my vote away on any Dem who is not currently doing all they can to hold this administration accountable, and the only one doing it id Kucinich, and his chances at the nomination are very slim (love him though).
I must have missed something when I started visiting this site. I thought it was a place where people that leaned left politically and even philosophically could meet to discuss ways in which to restore democracy and make this country, heck the world, a better place. I guess I missed the Dems only sign on the door.
selise @ 105
Agreed, and thank you.
Donna Edwards is a terrific candidate. I’ve donated several times via ActBlue, and don’t regret it one bit. Here’s hoping the primary works out better this time.
P.S. Now I really don’t like Nancy Pelosi anymore.
AngryAmerican @ 137 -
i don’t think it is fair or accurate to judge a dem like donna edwards because of a dem like nancy pelosi.
and that’s just the point - the party is not a monolith… and i’d like to see it be more like donna edwards and less like steny hoyer. this thread is about doing that. - a very, very good thing imo.
I’m with Christy on this one. A third party will help no one but the GOP.
There will be no NEED for a third party, if people will stop imbuing Clinton with characteristics and convictions which she clearly does not have.
Either Edwards or Obama will hang Iraq around Giulianis neck like the bloody, rotten, chicken it is, and democrats and independents and even some conservatives will turn this election into a total rout.
I’ll go everyone one better.
Those of you (us) who would like to see Cheyney and Bush (It will, of course, have to be in that order) driven from office in humiliation, all we have to do is pick either one of the two above-named candidates, and then we can sit back and have an excellent chance of watching the republicans set up the barbecue pit on the white house lawn for Darth and Goatboy.
The moment either Edwards or Obama is nominated, we will be astounded at how tractible and accomodating the “patriots” can be. The democrats will be able to tell the entire contingent of congressional repubs:
“Shit here!”
“Okay; now shit over there!” (No foot-dragging; or we’ll start reading all of those rosy predictions about the “cakewalk” into the congressional record.)
“Okay, now clean them both up, and when you’re done, check with us and we’ll give you your next mission to accomplish.”
I’m having a little fun here, of course, but it is true, that picking a candidate who is as deeply outraged about the murderous fuckup which bush and the GOP have inflicted on Iraq, us, and the world, as are we at FDL (do her supporters seriously think Clinton meets that criteria?) and who can and will go after them full-bore for doing it (Boy does she evermore NOT meet THAT criteria) will mean 25 percentage points in the election. And the GOP knows it.
Le’s get ‘em. :o)