Comments on: DiFi and Chuck to Vote Yes on Mukasey http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/ Firedoglake weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:13:50 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: 60man http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074478 60man Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:41:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074478 <p>What is just as demoralizing as the Schumer/Feinstein knife in the back job on those Democrats who for once were trying to take a stand is the continued blatant bias of NBC, CBS, ABC in reporting what happened with less context than the latest drive by shooting. No affect, no significance reported about what these “Democrats” did; just another “Move along folks; nothing happening here” while at the same time the blogosphere is going berserk with rage that will remain unknown to the people who might be motivated by it if they only knew. Instead this latest betrayal and massacre of what was beginning to look like a pie in the face to our fascist president was quashed by the MSM whose see no evil, here no evil, speak no evil credo keeps the public in the dark about Schumer and Feinstein’s repulsive ambush.</p> <p>Third party anyone? Impeach Feinstein and Schumer anyone? Anything anyone?</p> What is just as demoralizing as the Schumer/Feinstein knife in the back job on those Democrats who for once were trying to take a stand is the continued blatant bias of NBC, CBS, ABC in reporting what happened with less context than the latest drive by shooting. No affect, no significance reported about what these “Democrats” did; just another “Move along folks; nothing happening here” while at the same time the blogosphere is going berserk with rage that will remain unknown to the people who might be motivated by it if they only knew. Instead this latest betrayal and massacre of what was beginning to look like a pie in the face to our fascist president was quashed by the MSM whose see no evil, here no evil, speak no evil credo keeps the public in the dark about Schumer and Feinstein’s repulsive ambush.

Third party anyone? Impeach Feinstein and Schumer anyone? Anything anyone?

]]> By: SoCalSailor http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074464 SoCalSailor Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:26:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074464 <p><a href="#comment-1073195"><em>The Truffle @ 160</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Cave-in? These are Beltway Dems who are, for the most part, part of the problem. They agree with the president, so how can they cave in? Caving in implies some resistance.</p> <p>But I’m floored by Schumer, who usually votes on the side of the angels. He voted against Gonzo, after all. WTF is up with this decision?</p></blockquote> <p>‘Two Democratic Senators involved in that part of the Bolton battle — one on the Foreign Relations Committee and one not — told me personally that Senator Schumer called them to say “a vote against Bolton is a vote against Israel.”‘</p> The Truffle @ 160

Cave-in? These are Beltway Dems who are, for the most part, part of the problem. They agree with the president, so how can they cave in? Caving in implies some resistance.

But I’m floored by Schumer, who usually votes on the side of the angels. He voted against Gonzo, after all. WTF is up with this decision?

‘Two Democratic Senators involved in that part of the Bolton battle — one on the Foreign Relations Committee and one not — told me personally that Senator Schumer called them to say “a vote against Bolton is a vote against Israel.”‘

]]> By: RickinSF http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074231 RickinSF Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:41:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074231 <p>Got in late last night and, once again, I’m “Stunned but unsurprised.”<br /> Maybe that could be the title of a future biography of DiFi.</p> <p>I knew Fineswine would vote for him when she said (sort of) that she was “studying the situation.” That’s DiFispeak for; “I’m voting against my party but won’t announce it until Friday night.”</p> <p>She’s nothing if not consistent.</p> Got in late last night and, once again, I’m “Stunned but unsurprised.”
Maybe that could be the title of a future biography of DiFi.

I knew Fineswine would vote for him when she said (sort of) that she was “studying the situation.” That’s DiFispeak for; “I’m voting against my party but won’t announce it until Friday night.”

She’s nothing if not consistent.

]]> By: alank http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074225 alank Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:29:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074225 <p>Fucking shits! <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/11/02/BL2007110201377.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns">Dan Froomkin has been documenting all this</a>.</p> Fucking shits! Dan Froomkin has been documenting all this.

]]> By: Terry Ott http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074130 Terry Ott Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:36:50 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074130 <p>Who needed THIS to realize that Feinstein is a doofus of the first order?</p> <p>Schumer is in the pork barrel business, primarily; that’s how and why he is in this line of “work”. The IOU has been recorded.</p> <p>It really, literally, actually IS depressing to see what passes for governance — practices and people — in this country.</p> Who needed THIS to realize that Feinstein is a doofus of the first order?

Schumer is in the pork barrel business, primarily; that’s how and why he is in this line of “work”. The IOU has been recorded.

It really, literally, actually IS depressing to see what passes for governance — practices and people — in this country.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074114 selise Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:24:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074114 <p>shit. i can’t even get my cartoon characters straight.</p> <p>correction to my 186:</p> <p><strike>it’s not the dem leadership that are playing lucy - it’s us.</strike></p> <p>it’s not the dem leadership playing charley brown to the R lucy - it’s us playing charley brown to the D leadership.</p> shit. i can’t even get my cartoon characters straight.

correction to my 186:

it’s not the dem leadership that are playing lucy – it’s us.

it’s not the dem leadership playing charley brown to the R lucy – it’s us playing charley brown to the D leadership.

]]> By: deandra http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074064 deandra Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:56:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1074064 <p>This support of Mukasey by Feinstein and Schumer is so twisted, that it defies logic. One would think that these two jewish senators specifically would be sensitive to the idea of torture. They have made a sickening decision. They have learned nothing from history. Nothing.</p> This support of Mukasey by Feinstein and Schumer is so twisted, that it defies logic. One would think that these two jewish senators specifically would be sensitive to the idea of torture. They have made a sickening decision. They have learned nothing from history. Nothing.

]]> By: Alex http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1073917 Alex Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:31:58 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1073917 <p>I am terribly disappointed in Schumer. It’s a terrible day. I’m really glad you guys are here tonight, and that the rest of you are as angry and sick about this as I am.</p> I am terribly disappointed in Schumer. It’s a terrible day. I’m really glad you guys are here tonight, and that the rest of you are as angry and sick about this as I am.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1073850 cinnamonape Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:40:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1073850 <p><a href="#comment-1073056"><em>Scarecrow @ 33</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Well, perhaps Congress should add an amendment to the very next bill that expressly prohibits waterboarding and any other form of reprehensible interrogation by any US officials, agenices, contractors or agents, etc. And pass this before any final vote on Mukasey — and see what the WH does. Let’s test the proposition that we can solve the problem through legislation — and if the WH threatens to veto, or the Republicans block the vote, then put Mukasey’s nomination on the same shelf where they keep the Constitutional provision for impeachment.</p></blockquote> <p>Any such law would have to be a “clarification” of already existing law. If it creates a new law that appears to create new law then we have created a situation where Bush and his cronies are exempt from prosecution for any acts until the law takes hold. Ex post facto and all that.</p> Scarecrow @ 33

Well, perhaps Congress should add an amendment to the very next bill that expressly prohibits waterboarding and any other form of reprehensible interrogation by any US officials, agenices, contractors or agents, etc. And pass this before any final vote on Mukasey — and see what the WH does. Let’s test the proposition that we can solve the problem through legislation — and if the WH threatens to veto, or the Republicans block the vote, then put Mukasey’s nomination on the same shelf where they keep the Constitutional provision for impeachment.

Any such law would have to be a “clarification” of already existing law. If it creates a new law that appears to create new law then we have created a situation where Bush and his cronies are exempt from prosecution for any acts until the law takes hold. Ex post facto and all that.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1073843 cinnamonape Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:38:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/hayden-the-pillars-of-rendition-and-torture/#comment-1073843 <p><a href="#comment-1073048"><em>LiberalTarian @ 27</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>I think we should start considering a Feinstein recall. Once the drive is initiated, we have 160 days to circulate the petition, and 20% of the voters in the last election have to vote to recall.</p></blockquote> <p>Not Constitutional for Federal Offices. You can recall State Elected Officials…but not members of Congress. Read the State Constition a bit more carefully. You’re wasn’t your time.</p> LiberalTarian @ 27

I think we should start considering a Feinstein recall. Once the drive is initiated, we have 160 days to circulate the petition, and 20% of the voters in the last election have to vote to recall.

Not Constitutional for Federal Offices. You can recall State Elected Officials…but not members of Congress. Read the State Constition a bit more carefully. You’re wasn’t your time.

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