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		<title>By: kyledeb</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/chris-dodd-hearts-lou-dobbs/#comment-1074536</link>
		<dc:creator>kyledeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oof,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Harsh pach.  I do wish people did more of their own googling though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Harsh pach.  I do wish people did more of their own googling though.</p>
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		<title>By: Pachacutec</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/chris-dodd-hearts-lou-dobbs/#comment-1074410</link>
		<dc:creator>Pachacutec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/items/200501240007&quot;&gt;Brian Williams talks up Limbaugh, admits he’s a regular listener.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next time do your own googling.  I found this as the first link for the search “brian williams rush limbaugh.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those of you who want to suggest we don’t stand on the side of working people, and fight for their empowerment, on this site are obviously not readers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, I won’t do your searches for you on that front either.  Use your fingers to type a search before you type an uninformed comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Try some reading comprehension classes, too:  cite where I call Dodd racist, please.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200501240007">Brian Williams talks up Limbaugh, admits he’s a regular listener.</a></p>
<p>Next time do your own googling.  I found this as the first link for the search “brian williams rush limbaugh.”</p>
<p>Those of you who want to suggest we don’t stand on the side of working people, and fight for their empowerment, on this site are obviously not readers.</p>
<p>No, I won’t do your searches for you on that front either.  Use your fingers to type a search before you type an uninformed comment.</p>
<p>Try some reading comprehension classes, too:  cite where I call Dodd racist, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Soullite</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/chris-dodd-hearts-lou-dobbs/#comment-1074155</link>
		<dc:creator>Soullite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At some point, a lot of you will have to acknowledge that you are severely out of step with the American people on this. A lot of that is economic, most of you are doing okay in life and you have jobs that aren’t getting their wages depressed or losing them entirely due to illegal immigrants. Because of this, a lot of you just don’t see the problem that lower income Americans see. You can see it in the near complete lack of emotion you show on this issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; a lot of Americans are having a very hard time of things right now. Maybe YOU aren’t, but most of them are. Most of them have been doing poorly for a good long time now, too. Pretending that illegal immigration has nothing to do with this is to deny the totality of knowledge humanity has gained on economic matters in favor of one study with questionable methods written 2 years ago. Perhaps you should examine which if you, FDL or Chris Dodd, is best in tune with the sentiments of most americans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; To a whole lot of people, you sound like you’re either trying to import new voters, or you’re whining because you’re not getting the slaves you want.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some point, a lot of you will have to acknowledge that you are severely out of step with the American people on this. A lot of that is economic, most of you are doing okay in life and you have jobs that aren’t getting their wages depressed or losing them entirely due to illegal immigrants. Because of this, a lot of you just don’t see the problem that lower income Americans see. You can see it in the near complete lack of emotion you show on this issue.</p>
<p> a lot of Americans are having a very hard time of things right now. Maybe YOU aren’t, but most of them are. Most of them have been doing poorly for a good long time now, too. Pretending that illegal immigration has nothing to do with this is to deny the totality of knowledge humanity has gained on economic matters in favor of one study with questionable methods written 2 years ago. Perhaps you should examine which if you, FDL or Chris Dodd, is best in tune with the sentiments of most americans.</p>
<p> To a whole lot of people, you sound like you’re either trying to import new voters, or you’re whining because you’re not getting the slaves you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/chris-dodd-hearts-lou-dobbs/#comment-1073451</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone who favors any immigration law enforcement or withholding any right reserved for citizens must be a racist.  Riiiggghhhttttt.  Dodd is rightly getting credit for answering a question forthrightly and with common sense.  Hillary is rightly getting skewered for ridiculous waffling.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who favors any immigration law enforcement or withholding any right reserved for citizens must be a racist.  Riiiggghhhttttt.  Dodd is rightly getting credit for answering a question forthrightly and with common sense.  Hillary is rightly getting skewered for ridiculous waffling.</p>
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		<title>By: cmhmd</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/chris-dodd-hearts-lou-dobbs/#comment-1073242</link>
		<dc:creator>cmhmd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just sayin’:&lt;br /&gt;
Exodus: Chapter 23-9 “Do not oppress an alien; you yourselves know how it feels to be aliens, because you were aliens in Egypt.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Leviticus 19-33-34 “‘When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Luke 6 32″If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even ’sinners’ love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even ’sinners’ do that. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even ’sinners’ lend to ’sinners,’ expecting to be repaid in full. 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just sayin’:<br />
Exodus: Chapter 23-9 “Do not oppress an alien; you yourselves know how it feels to be aliens, because you were aliens in Egypt.”</p>
<p>Leviticus 19-33-34 “‘When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.”</p>
<p>Luke 6 32″If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even ’sinners’ love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even ’sinners’ do that. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even ’sinners’ lend to ’sinners,’ expecting to be repaid in full. 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.</p>
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		<title>By: Garuda</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/chris-dodd-hearts-lou-dobbs/#comment-1073134</link>
		<dc:creator>Garuda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1072909&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pachacutec @ 110&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Brian Williams is on the record as a Limbaugh fan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please keep a speadsheet for me.  I wouldn’t want to go over quota.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please provide a link to this information, thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1072909"><em>Pachacutec @ 110</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Brian Williams is on the record as a Limbaugh fan.</p>
<p>Please keep a speadsheet for me.  I wouldn’t want to go over quota.</p>
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<p>Please provide a link to this information, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: dachoste</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/chris-dodd-hearts-lou-dobbs/#comment-1072989</link>
		<dc:creator>dachoste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1072712&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;portia.vz @ 94&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1072693&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 79&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Edwards by a landslide…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be careful what you wish for.  The media is about to hype Edwards big time.  He is going to get lavish praise.  And why is that?  It’s because he is the weakest candidate from a money standpoint.  Next year, when his campaign is forced to go dark due to public financing concerns, he will be at the complete mercy of the GOP attack machine.  Can’t you just see Rove rubbing his hands and cackling?&lt;br /&gt;
All of the sudden, the media is entranced by Edwards.  He is brilliant, eloquent, a real fighter for the people, he’s better than sliced bread and walks on water.  All Democrats should vote for him.&lt;br /&gt;
And once they all do, the trap is set.  The swiftboating will be like nothing we have ever seen and the hapless candidate and his equally hapless party will be in no position to fight it off.&lt;br /&gt;
Hello, President Giuliani.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if this is the republicans plan, then i for the first time is history will support their plan.. btw edwards is all that “brilliant, eloquent, a real fighter for the people”, and if the media gives him the attention FINALLY that they’ve been lavishing on hillary and obama, then fantastic.  it would be nice to actually have an election instead of the media annointing a candidate for us, as they have been…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;also, by next year, when edwards gets the nomination, his campaign WILL NOT go dark, because he has enough support from the people. remember, without hillary and obama skewing the numbers, the money he’s raised would have been a record, and he’s not whoring to the big money lobbyists like the republicans (and HRC).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1072712"><em>portia.vz @ 94</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1072693"><em>LS @ 79</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Edwards by a landslide…</p>
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<p>Be careful what you wish for.  The media is about to hype Edwards big time.  He is going to get lavish praise.  And why is that?  It’s because he is the weakest candidate from a money standpoint.  Next year, when his campaign is forced to go dark due to public financing concerns, he will be at the complete mercy of the GOP attack machine.  Can’t you just see Rove rubbing his hands and cackling?<br />
All of the sudden, the media is entranced by Edwards.  He is brilliant, eloquent, a real fighter for the people, he’s better than sliced bread and walks on water.  All Democrats should vote for him.<br />
And once they all do, the trap is set.  The swiftboating will be like nothing we have ever seen and the hapless candidate and his equally hapless party will be in no position to fight it off.<br />
Hello, President Giuliani.</p>
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<p>if this is the republicans plan, then i for the first time is history will support their plan.. btw edwards is all that “brilliant, eloquent, a real fighter for the people”, and if the media gives him the attention FINALLY that they’ve been lavishing on hillary and obama, then fantastic.  it would be nice to actually have an election instead of the media annointing a candidate for us, as they have been…</p>
<p>also, by next year, when edwards gets the nomination, his campaign WILL NOT go dark, because he has enough support from the people. remember, without hillary and obama skewing the numbers, the money he’s raised would have been a record, and he’s not whoring to the big money lobbyists like the republicans (and HRC).</p>
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		<title>By: shoephone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/chris-dodd-hearts-lou-dobbs/#comment-1072972</link>
		<dc:creator>shoephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1072633&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;marksb @ 31&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OK, so out here on the edge of the Pacific Ocean this is a huge issue. The trucks and cars that got caught in the I-5 tunnel fire in LA a couple of weeks ago left something like eight vehicles without drivers on-scene or reporting later, and presumed dead. The next day a CHP officer noted this happens all the time when an illegal crashes their car, they flee the scene, as they are driving without a license or on a fake license. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know about five guys in my town without legal licenses driving around–no license, no insurance. I hired a guy who told me he had just moved here from Washington State and presented his Washington license with his Social Security card. Found out later his SS card was fake and his Washington license was probably fake—it didn’t matter, he couldn’t get a CA license since he didn’t have papers. He was driving my commercial vehicles around illegally and I had to let him go. Ugh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is stupid policy: knee-jerk anti-immigrant policy that threatens everyone on the highway. One would hope Chris Dodd starts paying attention, not just scoring cheap shots.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FYI — A bit of information on law enforcement’s attitude in Washington State: Last night, Seattle’s deputy chief of police was a panelist at a public forum on immigration. The driver’s license issue came up and he reiterated two points: that Seattle’s police would much prefer immigrants of any status go through the driver’s test and licensing process because, obviously, it is much safer for all concerned. Secondly, the police department does not use people’s driver’s licenses as a way to check on citizenship or status. They have no interest in acting as a satellite office for Homeland Security. And that’s not just lip service. Up until about ten years ago there was a city law that allowed police to check on people’s status if they were stopped. The department supported the change in the law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I assume this is an issue Dodd has not paid a lot of attention to as yet, and that his position will likely evolve the more he learns about it. Calling him a racist in the front page post is counterproductive and frankly, offensive.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1072633"><em>marksb @ 31</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OK, so out here on the edge of the Pacific Ocean this is a huge issue. The trucks and cars that got caught in the I-5 tunnel fire in LA a couple of weeks ago left something like eight vehicles without drivers on-scene or reporting later, and presumed dead. The next day a CHP officer noted this happens all the time when an illegal crashes their car, they flee the scene, as they are driving without a license or on a fake license. </p>
<p>I know about five guys in my town without legal licenses driving around–no license, no insurance. I hired a guy who told me he had just moved here from Washington State and presented his Washington license with his Social Security card. Found out later his SS card was fake and his Washington license was probably fake—it didn’t matter, he couldn’t get a CA license since he didn’t have papers. He was driving my commercial vehicles around illegally and I had to let him go. Ugh.</p>
<p>This is stupid policy: knee-jerk anti-immigrant policy that threatens everyone on the highway. One would hope Chris Dodd starts paying attention, not just scoring cheap shots.</p>
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<p>FYI — A bit of information on law enforcement’s attitude in Washington State: Last night, Seattle’s deputy chief of police was a panelist at a public forum on immigration. The driver’s license issue came up and he reiterated two points: that Seattle’s police would much prefer immigrants of any status go through the driver’s test and licensing process because, obviously, it is much safer for all concerned. Secondly, the police department does not use people’s driver’s licenses as a way to check on citizenship or status. They have no interest in acting as a satellite office for Homeland Security. And that’s not just lip service. Up until about ten years ago there was a city law that allowed police to check on people’s status if they were stopped. The department supported the change in the law.</p>
<p>I assume this is an issue Dodd has not paid a lot of attention to as yet, and that his position will likely evolve the more he learns about it. Calling him a racist in the front page post is counterproductive and frankly, offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: bhatten</title>
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		<dc:creator>bhatten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gag:  UI heard some of Rush today; he was horribly all over Hillary making some comparison to elite, intellectual women to simple men who are only interested in one thing, “below the waist.”  Of course, downhill from there attacking Clinton on the document issue and esp. immigration.   I am not exactly sure where to spread the word (NOW?) but why would anyone be interested in the opinion on women from some multi-married, druggie who refers to women as Femi-Nazis?  Is he the objective, sharp expert on this topic?  Where is the biggest billboard to discredit that pitiful man?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gag:  UI heard some of Rush today; he was horribly all over Hillary making some comparison to elite, intellectual women to simple men who are only interested in one thing, “below the waist.”  Of course, downhill from there attacking Clinton on the document issue and esp. immigration.   I am not exactly sure where to spread the word (NOW?) but why would anyone be interested in the opinion on women from some multi-married, druggie who refers to women as Femi-Nazis?  Is he the objective, sharp expert on this topic?  Where is the biggest billboard to discredit that pitiful man?</p>
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		<title>By: dachoste</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/02/chris-dodd-hearts-lou-dobbs/#comment-1072967</link>
		<dc:creator>dachoste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;immigration is a complex issue.  one of the many reasons that so many mexicans are coming over the border can be tied to the fact that our government subsidizes corn, and makes the farmers in mexico unable to make a living, which leads to them illegally entereing the country… ironic since mexico is the birthplace of maize (corn) and now they’re stuck with the product of agribusiness produced monoculture corn subsidized by the U.S.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there are consequences to every action.. we need a president who can see the big picture and not try to stick their finger in the dike for the surface symptom… &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and drivers licenses are a safety concern.. whatever the symbolic aversion people may have to granting licenses to undocumented immigrants, the fact of the matter is that the roads will be safer with people who are licensed than people who are not licensed- you say that they’re breaking the law by being here illegally and driving illegally also?  yes, true, but if they’re driving, the pragmatic thing to do is to make sure they’re safe… similar to teens having sex- maybe the right wingers wet dream is for kids not to have any sex, but the pragmatic thing is to give them condoms so they don’t do any damage.. same principle.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>immigration is a complex issue.  one of the many reasons that so many mexicans are coming over the border can be tied to the fact that our government subsidizes corn, and makes the farmers in mexico unable to make a living, which leads to them illegally entereing the country… ironic since mexico is the birthplace of maize (corn) and now they’re stuck with the product of agribusiness produced monoculture corn subsidized by the U.S.  </p>
<p>there are consequences to every action.. we need a president who can see the big picture and not try to stick their finger in the dike for the surface symptom… </p>
<p>and drivers licenses are a safety concern.. whatever the symbolic aversion people may have to granting licenses to undocumented immigrants, the fact of the matter is that the roads will be safer with people who are licensed than people who are not licensed- you say that they’re breaking the law by being here illegally and driving illegally also?  yes, true, but if they’re driving, the pragmatic thing to do is to make sure they’re safe… similar to teens having sex- maybe the right wingers wet dream is for kids not to have any sex, but the pragmatic thing is to give them condoms so they don’t do any damage.. same principle.</p>
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