In what can only be a sign that our War On Christmas is finally getting under their skins, conservatives have officially declared war on Halloween as a Decadent Liberal Holiday:
HANNITY: By the way, Halloween is a liberal holiday, because we’re teaching our children… to beg for something for free.
(…)
Halloween… is teaching our kids to be liberals…. Because we’re teaching kids to knock on other people’s doors and ask for a handout.
Hey, at least they’re interacting with their community, and learning the values of individuality and self-expression. Plus it prepares them to be the grassroots activists of tomorrow. Sure, this year they’re knocking on doors and saying “Trick or treat,” but 13-17 years from now it’ll be “Vote or get stuck with President Santorum/Jenna/Tucker Carlson.”
Now contrast Halloween’s vigorous community-based activism with the top-down authoritarianism of Christmas, where children passively wait around for a overweight old white guy in a suit to invade their home while they sleep, gracing it with slave-labor-crafted trinkets… but only if his year-round surveillance confirms that they live up to his exacting moral standards. Now that’s a conservative holiday if ever I heard one. (Did I mention that his suit is RED?)
We cannot let them take our heritage away, people. We cannot let the conservatives take away Halloween’s soul(s). If they have their way, T-P will be replaced with Chick Tracts. Jack O’Lanterns will become Bill O’Lanterns. Bland wishes for a bountiful harvest will replace our traditional greetings like “Happy Halloween” and “Hail Satan!” We have less than a year to prepare for the coming fight, and we cannot afford to fail. So sharpen your pitchforks and candy corns and vampire teeth; our very way of life is at stake.
(Cartoon is The Onion’s latest valiant-but-doomed attempt to parody conservatives)
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Eli!
Please forgive before I read…I just heard on KFI (major LA station) that the LA Times has an article ready to print regarding a major presidential candidate involved in a serious sex scandal. Any news in these parts?
Ah, and zed! lolo…
Hi Eli.
What’s this little war supposed to distract us from? Kids who are hungry year round?
Loo Hoo. @ 1
I know Ron Rosenbaum has a story about the story, which supposedly everyone in the media knows about but no-one is talking about.
I can only assume that it’s one of the Big Three Democrats, and they’re saving it until after the nomination…
Sean Hannity needs to soak his head. A long time. In something other than water.
This is the Rosenbaum column.
I wouldn’t mind a Bill-O’lantern. Just imagine the imaginings in your mind as you cut the eye holes and scoop out the seeds and the goo. Not a bad pumpkin picture.
Obama? Please not Edwards. And no chance it’s Hillary.
Look at it as another form of precinct walking.
TexBetsy @ 7
Question is, where to put the vibrator and the falafel.
Hi Eli!
Chick tracts creeped me right out!
marymccurnin @ 9
Exactly!
Eli @ 10
Between the teeth?
Liberal holiday? I dunno. Doesn’t the phrase “trick or treat” mean “give us your candy or we’ll egg your house”? They threaten you with some kind of harm if you don’t give in to their demands.
Sounds very conservative to me!
Hi Eli!
First the news about Schumer and DiFi, and now this f*ckery? Hannity is a dweeb.
TexBetsy @ 13
there’s just not enough bleach in the world
Elliott @ 11
Especially this one.
OT:
Pipe bomb locks down Ariz. nuke plant (AP)
from Yahoo! News
One of the three units of the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station shown here Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2007 in Wintersburg, Ariz. A contract employee attempting to enter the facility was caught at a security checkpoint with an explosive device causing a lockdown of the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station Friday, Nov. 2, 2007 in Wintersburg, Ariz (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)AP – Security officials at the nation’s largest nuclear power plant detained a contract worker with a small pipe bomb in the back of his pickup truck Friday, and investigators were searching his apartment, authorities said.
Eli @ 17
lmao!
LoudounLib @ 15
dweeb! I haven’t heard that word in eons. Love it.
dang, there goes halloween and christmas. is there a holiday left that these fools haven’t perverted?
Suzanne @ 21
Have yet to touch Yom Kippur to the best of my knowledge.
Suzanne @ 21
Thats cause they can’t have fun unless they feel it is perverted and wrong. I like perverted. Wrong-not so much.
marymccurnin @ 20
It just seems to fit him, doesn’t it? ;-)
Suzanne @ 21
There’s “Talk Like a Pirate Day”.
Aaargh.
Maureen Dowd did a colume or two about Obama being too sexy I thought she was being either weird at the time or trying to warn Obama that people were watching him.
Still when has the MSM ever hesitated to attack a Democrat about sex? The Mark Foley story however was sat on for awhile. The GOP has a lot of scandals that the press reports and let disappear.
I’m betting its a GOP scandal that seems to be the only time the MSM ever hesitates about journalistic ethics.
TexBetsy @ 22
I look forward to the showdown between the We-want-the-Jews-to-be-perfected Ann Coulter faction and the if-you’re-anti-war-you’re-antisemitic LGF faction.
Things Come Undone @ 26
If it was a GOP scandal, we probably wouldn’t even be hearing that there was a story…
Shit. It could be Bill Clinton.
Did we win or lose the war against Halloween? I can’t tell, but the kids still came around to my neighborhood. Four bags of mini-Snickers, etc.
RonD @ 25
“Act Like A Pirate Day” would be all conservative, tho.
Eli @ 28
Story? What story? Didja hear that Paris Hilton …..?
Eli @ 28
Maybe Larry Flynt has struck again. He said he would this week.
Hey scarecrow.
I won. I am the only one in the house who likes tootsie rolls.
marymccurnin @ 33
I think he said he had a Senator in his sights – I don’t think he said anything about a presidential candidate, although that would certainly be a tasty bonus.
Scarecrow @ 30
not a one here, guess I’ll have to eat all that chocolate.
Loo Hoo. @ 29
Well, I understand that Huckabee is trying to blame his release of Wayne Dumond on Big Dog.
TexBetsy @ 34
I’ve heard of people like you, but never met one. I’m a Snickers strawman myself.
RonD @ 25
I don’t think they’ve screwed up or co-opted Opening Day yet.
Scarecrow @ 38
But you have met me. Chicago. Sorry to burst the bubble.
dakine01 @ 39
April Fool’s Day is a bipartisan holiday. …Now.
White chocolate covered pretzels. Right now.
Actually I’m more shocked that Maureen might have been trying to warn Obama subtly… well if its suble enough that I picked up on it?
I prefered to think that she’s weird and catty.
TexBetsy @ 40
Yes, but I didn’t know you were that kind of person. You never let on. Who knew?
Pardon the OT, but this is priceless. From the AP via MSNBC, Rice reminds Iraq-wary diplomats of oath, duty
dakine01 @ 37
Blame Clinton, blame 9/11 yell loud so nobody realizes your take, or lack of one on the issues.
Scarecrow—
some for you
but
more for me
OT, but no surprise:
IRS: E-mail scam targets aid for wildfire victims
from CNN.com – U.S.
A new e-mail scam is using last week’s wildfires in California to prey on people with generous hearts.
TexBetsy @ 47
Thank you. I think “Fun Size” is guilt free.
Loo Hoo. @ 8
Why not Hillary? Do you know something the rest of us don’t know? Although, admittedly, it is more likely to be about Hillary’s hubby again. That man has a heart condition now, probably some high blood pressure or drugs to control it. You’d think he’d need via*ra to get it up by now!
Maybe a better question would be why I only meet the ones that do have high blood pressure or some other deterrent and who do need the help.
Ann in AZ @ 50
Personally, I think the most likely “candidate” is Rudy. He’s the guy with the history…
Sadly, the War on Hallowe’en has seen its second year in Toronto. Many Catholic friends refused to partake and those who did dressed their kinds in cute costumes (no Ghosts or goblins) and only went to a few houses of people they know.
Let’s just say that my kids were very … um … scary this Hallowe’en !
Petrocelli @ 52
Toby Wollin @ 51
Please, please, let it be Rudy…
LoudounLib @ 54
Be more fun if it was Mitt. He’s so perfect.
Ann in AZ @ 50
I’m sure the Repukes have all intentions of digging up Paula Jones and Monica if Hillary wins the Dem. nomination.
And you can bet that ALL the Repukes will be in lockstep, unlike the Dems …
Run Al Run !
Wear Black on Tuesday.
Pass it on…
Petrocelli @ 52
Don’t these people have anything more constructive to do with their time? A never-ending war, tanking economy, rampant lawbreaking in the highest office in the land, and these wankers get their panties in a knot over Halloween. Maybe Hannity and the rest of the loons at FOX have finally jumped the shark.
Twain — wouldn’t it though! *g*
LoudounLib @ 54
Heh. I just had a little bit of fun with that angle. Purely hypothetical, of course.
Elliott @ 53
(forgot the part where I add a comment)
that is just a cryin’ shame. man, the fun memories of Hallowe’en I have at ALL ages. makes me want to cry.
when was the last time any one threw dried corn at your windows?
Twain @ 55
… ‘twould be more fun if it was Mitt and Rudy … ‘twould indeed ... *g*… Lord help us if darkblack reads this …
Elliott @ 61
never
Petrocelli @ 62
707!
Elliott @ 61
… or toiletpapered those houses that did not give candy … *g*
Eli, I left ya a comment at your place ;-)
Petrocelli @ 65
My neighbor used to take her sons and their friends out on Halloween to TP friend’s houses. They were very thorough.
LoudounLib @ 66
Heh, thanks, LL.
radiofreewill @ 57
heard ya
Petrocelli @ 65
we were never so discriminating :)
difi and schumer
go with goebbels.
you should see the other guys on adolf’s list for head of the ss.
madmommy @ 67
The irony is, if we were to video Halloween night and show it on Al Jazeera, Al Qaeda would never think of F*cking with us ! *g*
Hannity is now parodying Stephen Colbert? Madness!
The latest Republican campaign slogan: Stay in your house and don’t come out until we say it’s ok! Either that or “Pre-9/11 mindset”. Jury’s still out.
Things Come Undone @ 43
Generally a safe bet. Especially the catty part.
Petrocelli @ 71
Every year I think of going to TP my brother’s house. He’s one of those who turns off the porch lights and hides out in the back of the house. And he has LOTS of trees. Maybe when the kiddos are older and can help ;0)
Elliott @ 69
Those who gave “nasty” candy – Raisins, Fruits, Sunflower Seeds, etc. – got egged … tee hee …
Fern @ 73
IF MoDo THEN
Catty = TRUE
ENDIF
madmommy @ 74
*sniff* … it’s a right of passage … *sniff* *g*
TexBetsy @ 47
I bought a bag of 400 of those tootsie rolls, and so far I’ve eaten most of them. Only about 40 went to kids; only about 50 or so left.
madmommy @ 74
We’ll come help. Texteen thinks TPing houses is the best part of being a teen.
slag @ 72
These guys are obviously too stupid to know better than tangling with Jon and Stephen …
Ann, if I start driving now, how long till I get to you in AZ?
Is the LA Times is still run by the Chicago Tribune. They never hesitated to attack Bill it has to be a GOP candidate.
TexBetsy @ 79
I’ll keep ya’ll in mind. The brother truly deserves it, he’s quite a wanker.
Petrocelli @ 80
They’ll only do it now with the threat of a TV writers’ strike.
Loo Hoo. @ 29
Do you really want to wonder that for the next eight years?
Great post, Eli. I had no idea Mayor Newson and SF Supervisor Bevan Dufty were in league with Hannity et. al, cancelling Halloween.
Things Come Undone @ 82
A sex scandal would be much more devastating in the general election.
Petrocelli @ 56
I’m pretty sure they’ll have some nasty stuff up for him, too, but I don’t think it’ll phase him much anymore. I sure hope he runs; I think he’d be our best leader and the only one that stands a chance of setting things right again.
Eli @ 86
If as many people know about it as the column inferred, I think it would be nearly impossible to keep it on the QT until the general. Too many potential loose lips.
I believe that today was the last filing day for New Hampshire. Al’s officially out.
Eli @ 86
Yep, and the MSM will have be falling over themselves to cover it 24/7.
TexBetsy @ 89
I was thinking the same thing and was getting ready to go look for a link. You beat me to it, Betsy.
they were running draft al ads today here … surprised me a lot!
I’m still in awe of Halloween in our new neighborhood – I bought four large bags of candy (smarties, tootsie rolls, caramel chews, starbursts) and got none of them! had to break into the candy I bought while traveling to give this holiday and ran out of that … finally had to just say sorry, all out
sadly, only one trick or treat for unicef
TexBetsy @ 89
Nope, if he declares later on, his supporters can petition as a write in candidate, or so I’ve been told …
Eli @ 86
Random observations:
I do not understand why someone’s sex life – even a presidential candidate’s sex life – is anyone’s business, if it doesn’t involve children or wetsuits.
If the LA Times has credible info, there must be others with the same info and it will likely become public before too long – likely before the primaries are over.
Eli @ 86
Sure after Hilary wins but if the LA Times torches Hilary now…well the GOP only has 9/11 to run on. Hilary or a GOPer is now my guess.
Fern @ 94
I really hope so. I can live without a sex scandal, but if ’tis done, ’tis well ’twere done quickly.
Siun @ 92
I refuse to collect for or donate to Unicef, Red Cross or World Vision … they use 75% or more in administration.
I give my $$$ to women’s shelters and local charities that have zero admin.
Ann in AZ @ 78
aint that the truth!
Things Come Undone @ 95
Pshaw … the only sex scandal Hillary could possibly be in, is that she doesn’t get any … *g*
Petrocelli @ 52
This is so weird. Growing up as a Catholic and attending Catholic school, we learned that Halloween was based on the concept of All Soul’s day, the day before all Saint’s Day. I believe this, in turned, was based on some heathen custom or another, as most Church traditions are.
Petrocelli – I just have a real fond spot for the little Unicef boxes and the idea that kids use their holiday to ask for others.
Petrocelli @ 97
Well, not zero exactly, but I take your point. Mennonite Central Committee is pretty good on their percent that goes to admin, should you be interested in donating to international projects.
Eli @ 96
Never mind who it is. What if its a real sex scandal not adultery? Something that would legitatmetly require some journalistic ethics considerations?
Siun @ 101
Me too, I was the best collector for UNICEF in my neighborhood, and I was very angry to discover that they wasted so much $$$ in admin.
Fern @ 102
The only international charity I give to, is Doctors without Borders, although we help out lots of poor families in India …
Jehovah’s Witnesses and serious Born Again’s don’t do Halloween (tho we once had BA neighbors who had church hosted Halloween parties where the kids all dressed up as saints!)
Halloween comes from the early traditions of Samhain – the night when the veil between living and dead is thin and we welcome those who have passed to a feast … similar to the Dios de los muertes
Petrocelli @ 105
True – an admirable group.
Things Come Undone @ 103
You’ll forgive me if I don’t have a lot of faith in journalistic considerations these days.
Either it comes out or it doesn’t (*if* it’s even real). If it comes out, I want it to come out NOW. If it never comes out ever, I’m okay with that, I just don’t think it’s likely.
But what about the children?
Siun @ 106
My brothers and I were not allowed to wear costumes or go trick-or-treating when we were kids. Halloween was of the devil donchaknow.
Karin @ 109
They should stay in the mines where they belong.
Fern @ 107
I heard of them through some affluent people in the IT industry, who actually demand to see the Balance Sheets of charities before they donate.
I think it’s something we should all do.
Fern! laughing … the same neighbors had a bit of trouble with my 4 yr old son dressing up as Smurfette! LOL!
Fern @ 110
((Fern)) I hope you’ve made up for it since.
Teddy, I personally don’t care what anyone does in their private lives, so if Bill Clinton were the one, it would only piss me off that he would be willing to destroy Hillary. Let’s just hope it
’s a republican.
OOPS!
Siun @ 113
I’m pretty sure that Smurfs are *not* Christian.
I have to assume that they worship a blue God named “Smurf” or “Smurfy”.
TexBetsy @ 89
Al doesn’t need to run in New Hampshire, or South Carolina either, which I believe also had a filing deadline this week. Al’s (imaginary) candidacy is based, now, on the theory of a deadlocked convention.
We will not hear the end of Al from the Al-ites until our nominee is chosen next summer.
Fern @ 110
Do you live in Canada ? If so, did you notice a drop in kids trick or treatin’ ?
It is now officially after 9 pm, so mommy can have a glass of wine. This day has been a slice and I will be glad to see the end of it!
Elliott @ 114
Certainly on the chocolate consumption I have made up for lost time!
War on Halloween kids wear costumes pretending to be differnt people is bad every loyal assimalted Borg er Bushie just wants to fit in and be normal and the same safe from riduclue.
For conservatives everyday of highschool was Halloween. Cool was dressing up to fit in.
Seeing people looking forward even once a year to pretending to be differnt is scary.
Aloha, Ya’ll! Can anyone explain what the f*ck DiFi and Chuck were thinking…?
Petrocelli – in my work life, we’ve often sent email holiday greetings to clients and instead donated to Doctors without Borders … mention a donation in our client’s honor in the email, much better use of all that cash and very very well received.
I also donate to Red Crescent’s Iraq activities since they are the only ones to get essential supplies to all of Iraq.
Fern @ 121
well then! good to know. :)
TeddySanFran @ 118
I just need one hour with Al to show him why he needs to run … just one hour … I’ll fly anywhere for the meeting, Mr. Gore !
CTuttle @ 123
Chuck didn’t want to admit that His Guy was a loser, and I can’t remember the last time DiFi saw a Bushie nominee she didn’t like.
TexBetsy @ 81
About 50 tootsie rolls worth! BTW, I bought 2 of the Big Bag of fun size Snickers, too, plus I went back for another bag. I counted, there are 38 in each bag. I have only 28 left and there were only about 40 kids for Halloween. I’m gonna big as a house if I’m not more careful.
Siun @ 106
My mom loved the costume part but wouldn’t let me go “begging” door to door for candy. I think it reminded her of the Depression or something.
So we went trick or treating for Unicef instead, and then to a school carnival. Had to grow up and have my own kids to really enjoy Halloween!
Petrocelli @ 119
Not that I have noticed – but I live in an apartment so wouldn’t see anyone anyway. Other people tell me though that numbers have fallen off. Lots of people are having parties for their kid’s friends instead.
Oh – forgot to say yes I do live in Canada – Winnipeg.
Petrocelli @ 126
I could see why he wouldn’t though. All the same old crap dredged up again, who needs it? He may feel he can have more influence and do more good in the world from where he is now, without the constraints of having to deal with the presidency.
CTuttle @ 123
Look at the last thread.
Petrocelli @ 97
Find out how your favorite charities rate at CharityWatch.org
Siun @ 124
Excellent idea, Siun … within 24 hours of the Tsunami hitting Sri Lanka and Indonesia,
Doctors without Borders had people on the ground, giving medical care to victims …
Things Come Undone @ 103
Not sure I follow. What is a “real sex scandal” that would require journalistic ethics (!) that’s not adultery? What have you in mind, exactly?
TeddySanFran @ 135
Farm animals?
Eli @ 111
Except for the plump juicy ones that are best for eating.
Fern @ 130
*cough* … fixed your typo … *g* …
I’m in Toronto … numbers were down here as well, the kids who went late must have made out like bandits … *g*
Eli @ 127
“…at least he’s not AGAG!” That is the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard! Our side has no scruples, nor anything approaching a vertebrae…! 8-(
TeddySanFran @ 137
broasted
TeddySanFran @ 135
Not all of them are married.
Thinking Huckleberry…
Eli @ 6
What’s the “Edward’s Rumor”.
If it was a Dem, wouldn’t Drudge have it by now?
TexBetsy @ 89
I read or heard somewhere that the Draft Gore is running Gore in NH as a write in? Anyone else know anything along those lines?
Did everyone notice that Rudy came in Worse, Worser and Worst Person in the World on Olbermann.
Petrocelli @ 138
Now, now, there. I suspect a little regional bias entering into the discussion.
madmommy @ 131
Give me one hour with him, please …
newtonusr @ 141
All the presidentials are, though. As far as I know, anyway.
Ann in AZ @ 142
Damn, the trifecta! I don’t think even Billo has achieved that honor.
Fern @ 143
LOL … getting close to CFL playoffs, old rivalries reawake … could be worse, you could be living in Deadmonton … *g*
madmommy @ 146
Was it for one particularly heinous deed, or three separate ones?
Petrocelli @ 147
True that.
But this is a nice place to live. Really. Well, most days.
Halloween (and Dia de los muertos) are my favorite holidays. If the occasion makes the wingnuts crazy, it only adds to my enjoyment.
WRT the Rosenbaum column; what is “By the way, t’s not the Edwards rumor, it’s something else” supposed to mean? Anyone have any idea?
Eli @ 148
Could be three, every statement is getting him in trouble lately. Poor Boo-dy just can’t seem to get his facts straight.
I assumed it was Freddie-boy, and they were “sitting on it”, because (1) he’s a Repuke and (2) he’s tanking anyway. It’s been rumored since before he dropped (throwing takes too much energy) his hat in the ring that something would come out.
Fern @ 143
*sigh* You’re right just because Ottawa is in Ontario, doesn’t make it all of Canada in their view… Speaking as an expat Albertan! *g*
Eli
Very nice post. Hope we don’t have an earthquake in the next minutes or so.
Dru @ 150
Yeah, that made me feel a little queasy. Seems like dirty trickses are underway.
GordonM @ 152
Still mystified by the whole Fred-Thompson-irresistible-to-women thing.
Eli @ 156
shudder!
perhaps the sex scandal involves children? That would certainly make a publisher/editor think twice about what to do with the information.
Eli @ 156
He is? Funny, I missed that. ewwww
CTuttle @ 123
Apparently they want the rest of the world to think that Americans think torturing people is duck soup.
I wonder if it’s just a whisper campaign.
Eli @ 157
so are we
Fred Thompson is irresistable to women? Who, pray tell? Must be the same women that thought Rummy was a stud.
Eli @ 156
Irresistable!??? Ick.
CTuttle @ 154
Hey buddy, my comment @ 147 was for you … *g*
The “Edwards rumor” is that he had a long running affair. It appears, like the economic numbers cited by similar sources, to be a total fabrication.
Eli @ 148
Three separate ones. I’m sure they’ll have a clip up soon somewhere.
Eli @ 149
Three separate. The gold was because not only did he quote a story that was wrong on the prostate cancer survival between US and UK but the “think tank” he got the “facts” from admitted that the claim was seven years old with bad methodology in the first place.
And IIRC, BungleO BillO has swept the field in the past.
Ann in AZ @ 143
It sounded as if Keith got hammered by management to apologize and correct the AP story quoting Rudi; it was the segment right before WPITW. Then he hammered Rudi with three apologies and corrections due from his campaign for stuff he said this week.
Never get into a war with a fellah who buys ink by the barrel — or who has a loyal following as one of the few sane hours on cable teevee!
Loo Hoo. @ 160
Or they’re just bought and paid for GOP shills.
How’s it going Loo Hoo? Ready for the big meetup tomorrow?
Pectopah @ 142
erm, I think you gotta point there…
Dru @ 151
Mickey Kaus, who blows goats, was flogging an Edwards sex scandal rumor about ten days ago.
newtonusr @ 141
Ohhh, I like that thinking…
Margot @ 161
ironranger @ 164
Well Margaret Carlson (DeeCee journo) and Lorrie Morgan (Country singer) seem to believe in him. For what it’s worth.
CTuttle @ 154
Damn CT, you’re from more places than Mitt!
Fern @ 172
Yeah, I was wondering if the whole purpose was just to get people saying, “What Edwards rumor? There’s an Edwards rumor?”
Are they really that scared of Edwards, though?
newtonusr @ 141
Ohhh, I like that thinking…Ann in AZ @ 143
Missed Olbermann. Why all three!? tee hee
My take on this alleged sex scandal is that it is what boosh/rove et al want us to focus on instead of the AG battle and telecom immunity.
(now off to backstage to get my magic mod powers)
GordonM @ 153
That would make sense, given his Hollywood background, being the LAT. I couldn’t figure out the LAT connection; why would they have the story? But if it’s Fred, and there was someone the campaign didn’t find and pay off before the announcement, maybe the LAT found her.
Remember those rumors about Fred’s delay having to do with closing all the ladies he’d left pining for him in Hollywood?
Suzanne @ 178
Do those come with a cape and tights?
TeddySanFran @ 172
Thanks for the info, TSF and GordonM.
Whatever Carlson & Morgan saw in Fred even is a mystery. The man seems a boring dud, imo. Go figure.
TeddySanFran @ 135
10 o’clock news in the crime section if it were a normal person. Being gay, an adulter, marrying your cousin, your kids want to vote for Obama, you had three wives, your grandparents immigrated illegaly? to Mexico so they could practice polgamy its all been done.
But what could shock in today’s enviroment? Heck I hope the Tribune Parent company s just trying to protect the GOP or worried about torching Hilary before the primaries. But outside that well what is left that is truly shocking?
Eli @ 157
Barfola!
Suzanne @ 179
Wow! I think I can hear the Energizer Bunny from 3,000 miles away!
dakine01 @ 174
Lorrie Morgan just filed for divorce from her 5th husband, Sammy Kershaw. He had a country career a while back, and recently ran for Lt. Governor here in Louisiana. This was marriage #4 for him, IIRC. Thankfully he did not make it out of the primary. Yet another example of the useless information in my head. Something important disappeared forever so I could remember this crap.
ironranger @ 182
Hey, look at all the positive qualities conservatives were able to project onto a repellent little git like Dubya.
Loo Hoo. @ 185
I would never know you were a SoCal girl.
Please forgive my O/T and delurking, but I truly need to vent for a moment. From 1998 through late spring of 2001, my spouse, children and I lived as expats in Saudi Arabia. Although I and most expats were respectful of the cultural and religious tradtions of Saudi, we often derided, amongst ourselves, their oppressive government.
While the complete subjugation of women was often the focus of our negative comments, I remember, now earily, how we thought it completely out of bounds for their government to 1)listen to our phone calls (they sometimes did), 2)censor internet content availability (many sites blacklisted, and 3) their use of torture.
I have always taken comfort, in my many travels abroad, that overseas assignments were temporary and, at the end of the assignment, I would be able to touch home base again – my country – the USA. I now feel, with this newest reprehensible capitulation by Feinstein and Schumer, to our odious and malevolent president on his AG nominee, to be a woman without a country; no home base; no touch stone. We have become the christianized version of Saudi. I weep for my country. I weep for my children.
Eli @ 178
Edwards is a White Southern Male … they don’t have a game plan to run against one …
Petrocelli @ 165
Yes, I caught it… ;-P
Eli @ 188
Hey, they got the “authentic” part right. Somehow the “asshole” part never got through.
Suzanne @ 21
I think we should taunt them and revive May Day in all it’s pagan glory:
hurray! hurray! the first of May,
outdoor screwing begins today!
Petrocelli @ 191
I think Coulter has already taken it out for a spin.
ThinkingSoutherner @ 190
In FDL, you have found weeping kindred spirits. Thanks for joining the dialogue. Together, we will overcome this evil that lurks in the land we love.
ThinkingSoutherner @ 189
It is disturbing and depressing to watch the things that make America America inexorably peeled away one by one. With the willing cooperation of *both* political parties.
SunnyNobility @ 193
Now *that’s* a holiday!
Petrocelli @ 191
The GOP, in fact, always loses when we nominate one:
Clinton
Carter
LBJ
TeddySanFran @ 198
Hmmm. You have a theory on that?
Unintentional humor on Schumer’s DSCC website: The “Contribute” button says
“Help preserve the Democrats razor-thin margin”
You certainly are doing your best to do that, Chuck.
Yes, madmommy! I’ll be there. In case any other SoCal (or anywhere) pups want to join us, we’ll be meeting about noon at:
Wahoo’s Fish Tacos
1862 Placentia Ave
Costa Mesa
Ah Dubya. For all his cushy upbringing & having a father who was prez, I never saw any difference between him & any ole egotistical, immature redneck type that guzzles brewskis several nights a week at the local bars. A preppie prick.
EvilDrPuma @ 182
I don’t know, but I’ll bet the magic wand makes Harry Potter’s look like a wet noodle!
Bob in HI
ThinkingSoutherner @ 190
You are very much among friends here at the Lake. Please stay around and continue to add to the conversation.
allan_in_upstate @ 202
no wonder the ship of state is sinking.
SunnyNobility @ 194
That’s my favorite chant and holiday, but you cleaned it up for the swear jar!
TeddySanFran @ 199
One discrepancy, Gore, but, he did get the most votes…
Loo Hoo. @ 203
Have one for me! Me and the little guy are on our own tomorrow. Hubby’s working, and the big kid is on his first out of town trip with the grandparents.
*sniffle, wimper*
SunnyNobility @ 195
Now there is a cheerful thought.
ThinkingSoutherner @ 190;
You are among kindred spirits. Vent away…
ThinkingSoutherner @ 190
While I wholeheartedly agree in spirit, the Mukassey thing is like one of those moves in chess, where the next dozen moves are all pre-ordained. He *can’t* say “waterboarding is torture”, or Bush will pull his nomination. He can’t say “waterboarding is okeydokey” or he will not pass. We are at “check”. Bush is playing well enough (and the Dems badly enough) that “checkmate” probably won’t come until the clock runs out. But things have gone far enough that even Pelosi and Reid can do no more than snatch stalemate from the jaws of victory.
Loo Hoo. @ 202
Will you be live-blogging it for those of us too far away to drop by?
ThinkingSoutherner @ 190
Mind if I send your comment (without your screenname) to Diane Feinstein?
allan_in_upstate @ 201
LOL!
TeddySanFran @ 214
What I want to know is what goes into a fish taco.
pretty picture:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/
Now that you’ve graciously allowed me to word-vomit my angst, I will return to lurking. But let me add this: truly not a day goes by that I don’t read FDL and thank the heavens and what may be up there for this place. You are all passionate about humanity, the rule of law, and our country. And you have good tunes and kitty and pooch stories as lagniappe. Yippee Kye Yeah!
Fern @ 217
duh! fish!
ThinkingSoutherner @ 217
There’s no need to lurk. Keep posting. We like hearing what you think.
Hi Teddy…we’re not sure of wifi at wahoo, says LooHoo (I just love saying that). But we will be prepared, no doubt. Wish you were here.
madmommy @ 209
We’d love to meet the little scamp! (and hear him speak!!!)
Suzanne @ 220
Besides fish, you silly!
allan_in_upstate @ 202
Didja leave a note on the DSCC website blog?
Suzanne @ 220
yeah, me too; fish and what?
GordonM @ 213
The problem is, Bush will come up with an even more odious nominee, then do a recess appointment. Bush is the one playing for stalemate. Mukasssey is the best one can reasonably expect as this point. The current acting AG is worse.
Thinking Southerner
Nice delurking – and remember, once delurked, it is hard to go back to just reading.
Looking forward to hearing more of your voice around here.
ThinkingSoutherner @ 218
Please stick around.
And Loo Hoo, Condi qualifies for that comment as well…
madmommy @ 188
what disappeared though?
possibly a ‘pokey and gumby episode’
a friend’s opinion on ‘yoko ono in the bag’
a football statistic
7 steps to perfect tea
who knows?
:-)
so, how are we going to know which ones are the fire pups at the Wahoo’s?
You notice those of us who don’t know what a fish taco is are from the north/northeast….
Kathryn in MA @ 226
Cabbages and stuff – special tartar-y sauce, crispy fish pieces…chipotle sauce…yummiest when burning hot,imo
TeddySanFran @ 213
I’ll bring my computer in case they have wifi. Good idea! And I’ll bring the camera.
Kathryn in MA @ 218
Cool! The big kid is getting a telescope for Christmas. He wants to talk about stars and planets every morning while we are standing out in the dark waiting for the school bus. I’ll save it for him.
Kathryn in MA @ 218
thanks for that. just gorgeous
I figure it will be easy to spot all the folks with laptops looking around for wifi
Fern @ 216
Fish Tacos.
Suzanne @ 237
well, ya’ a point there, Suzanne… ;-)
ThinkingSoutherner @ 219
Ooohhh! Another who uses laginappe; don’t go back to lurking, it’s much more fun to jump in!
ThinkingSoutherner @ 219
New Orleans? Cajun?
Mommybrain @ 233
yummy!
That is the astronomy picture of the day site from nasa – i check it daily for its eye candy of the day picture.
Kathryn in MA @ 217
Is that the Space Station on the left? *g*
Evening, all!
What I don’t understand is how the Republicans do it all. They undermine the DOJ, arrogate powers of executive unitary, start wars, foment others — I mean, I could go on, but Hugh’s list already covers it, right? 72 feet of paper at 12 point?
And they STILL pencil in time for Christmas and Halloween fuckery!!
I, for one, am impressed.
Pectopah @ 226
Oh, we’ll certainly be stuck with an interim AG. From the Dem side it’s that, or get tarred with the vote. But the office of AG is pretty much devoid of all power until 2009. The only difference is whether it’s lack of access, or lack of credibility (or both).
Loo Hoo. @ 223
Think of the dialog on icanhascheezburger. He sounds a lot like that :0)
Thanks, Kathryn, it’s nice to have some perspective after a day like today! (I did manage to get my flu shot today, though, amidst all the treasonous ongoings among Senate Democrats).
Loo Hoo. @ 215
Mind if I send your comment (without your screenname) to Diane Feinstein?
Sure, Loo Hoo, you may send. Sorry to type and run, but I have younguns to get into bed in these parts. Again, thanks for listening.
Kathryn in MA @ 231
True. I’m from Maine. I’ve had fish tacos. I have no idea what was in them, but they were good.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 230
See, that’s the rub-you never know what is gone till you want it and it’s not there anymore :0)
FYI…. we have a guest poster tonight for TRex – a face you’ve seen ’round here before on the front pages. Is typing away furiously and Late Nite is running a wee bit behind.
HI Y’ALL!
madmommy @ 235
If you click on the picture you can get a higher resolution version of it.
Suzanne @ 252
**putting on company manners for our guest**
Kathryn in MA @ 226
Bit of cheese, bit of shredded cabbage, bit of salsa, with a bit of mayo type sauce. Corn or flour tortillas. YUM.
Pectopah @ 226
True, but that doesn’t mean the dems should confirm someone who can’t say that torture is wrong and unAmerican. Better nothing than confirmation.
SnarkasDRIVER! @ 251
Good grief, they passed you.
Suzanne @ 252
Has our favorite therapod had a relapse (hope not!) or just out on a hot date?!
madmommy @ 233
If the big kid likes stars and things, go to http://hubble.org and the gallery will leave him in awe. I love it.
Loo Hoo. @ 238
Thank you. Looks tasty.
oh dear cassie’s a driver? (laughing)
congrats cassie
EvilDrPuma @ 258
yeppers!
SnarkasDRIVER! @ 252
Yikes! Pass the DL test, or just permit?
SnarkasDRIVER! @ 253
Can we take this to mean you are an officially licensed driver?
SnarkaDRIVER! @ 261
Congratulations.
who’s the guest? should i tuck in my shirt and comb out my hair?
SnarkasDRIVER! @ 253
Look out, Texas!
OldCoastie @ 230
Burns is the guy wearing some tournament cap….let’s just let the hostess know and meet in the bar till we know how many of us there will be. Sound okay? And look for laptops!
Official license. Provisional till I turn 18, but official.
Twain @ 260
It’s in favorites now, thanks!
SnarkasDRIVER! @ 253
Heh. Congrats on the permit/license/whatevertheycallitthesedays!
SnarkaDRIVER! @ 267
tis a face we have seen before here at the lake and that is all the hints i’m giving – ya’ll will just have to wait and see
SnarkaDRIVER! @ 270
yeah, but can you parallel park?
Late nite!
madmommy @ 274
yes ma’am!
Hannity’s absolutely right, Eli; if we let the kids ask for candy that they didn’t earn, the next thing you know, the little bastards will grow up and be doing….this!:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..0529.shtml
Petrocelli @ 93
Hope this is accurate – makes my day.
ReElect Pres. Al Gore & VP John Edwards 2008!
EPU’d but on topic. At our house, the Halloween cover of the New Yorker graces the coffee table, and the cover artwork by Richard McGuire scares the bejeebers out of all of us. So much so we decided to call it a “Dick O’Lantern”.
Eli @ 6
Someone persistantly thinks that the LA Times would NEVER place on “hold” a sex-scandal story against a Republican.
That person seems to forget that the LA Times haven’t been owned by a Democratic-leaning publisher in quite some time. The tale actually sounds as if the Reporters found something, but the now-conservative Publisher or his appointed Editors…have blocked the story using the “ethical” argument.
If a reporter wanted to use a story it would be the publisher or the Editorial Board that would block it. Those have been consistantly pro-Republican over the last several years.
Another possibility (if the rumor deals with a Democratic candidate) is that the ethical issues derives from the way the LA Times obtained the “source” material. Perhaps the information was leaked from illegally obtained records…either hospital, phone, or internet surveillance.
The Times opens up a whole problematical set of issues if they reveal illegally obtained (without a warrant) personal information. Who is doing widespread data crunching of domestic data sources nowadays? The Bush Administration. Who are some of the most egregious leakers of information to the Washington press corps? The White House.
Where have we heard this same sort of “it’s widely known amongst the cocktail circuit” in Washington before? And the line “I’ve heard a rumor, but don’t attribute it to me…just look into it.”
That’s the “ethical dilemma”…what if, in the course of discovering that the US Government was obtaining vast amounts of personal data on political figures (perhaps of both parties), one of the major bits of information related to a candidates sexual indiscretions.
So do you use that in the story to demonstrate just how heinous and evil this activity can be, thus doing precisely what you say is evil and heinous about these programs…or do you conceal that information, and allow the illegal domestic spying to continue?
cinnamonape @ 280
Partly due to the fact that I’m not super-enamored of any of them, I would be willing to give up a *primary* candidate to expose the depth of the administration’s corruption, and the bogusness of its alleged need for nigh-unlimited wiretapping authority.
The LAT may feel differently, however.
Ann in AZ @ 100
Why do I think that, like that whole anti-immigration effort in California, that this will backfire on these Republicans. Kids (and young adults) are gonna hate that the Right Wing is trying to terminate their Halloween fun.
While Coulter, Hannity, O’Reilley and others attack “others” these people will tolerate them. But when they start to attack something that impacts vast numbers those that are ostensibly “potential Republicans” it is bound to blow-up. It makes them look like the Taliban.
Personally I hope that these idiots continue their campaign and up the vitriol and rhetoric. They are actually shaping an anti-Conservative public opinion base that will be hard to shift for decades.
Dru @ 151
Well, I guess the Edward’s rumor is the Coulter “gay” meme. Which could mean it IS Edward’s but a different tale (this would be the way that Rosenberger thinks that he is being very wily and getting folks of the trail). Or it could be someone else entirely.
Ha-Ha. Halloween is a conservative holiday, because it teaches people to give you want you want or you’ll hurt them.
Hmmm. Trick or treat is a two-sided coin. The kiddies are really emulating the national security state. Gives us control of your natural resources or we’ll bomb you back to the Stone Age.
alank @ 285
Testing