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		<title>By: bebe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/the-foggy-bottom-blues/#comment-1072799</link>
		<dc:creator>bebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is it just me, or does this seem like another political purge similar to the DoJ?&lt;br /&gt;
Take all the career Democrats (or non-Bushies)&lt;br /&gt;
and threaten to send them to IRAQ…&lt;br /&gt;
knowing full well that they’ll quit first.&lt;br /&gt;
Does anyone have the stats on this?&lt;br /&gt;
percentage of non-Republicans in this group?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;be&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or does this seem like another political purge similar to the DoJ?<br />
Take all the career Democrats (or non-Bushies)<br />
and threaten to send them to IRAQ…<br />
knowing full well that they’ll quit first.<br />
Does anyone have the stats on this?<br />
percentage of non-Republicans in this group?</p>
<p>be</p>
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		<title>By: redX</title>
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		<dc:creator>redX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071300&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;A.Citizen @ 125&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071285&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Get Tough @ 113&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Beg to differ on two fronts:  (1) HRC will not, I repeat, will NOT allow any power the Bushies have accumulated while at “war” go without a fight.  An HRC admin. will not take the Bushies to task because they succeeded in giving the next President an enormous amount of unjust power, and she COVETS that.  And (2), Edwards is out off his league.  Like Plato warned, demogagues make terrible leaders because they simply cannot live up to all that they promise.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hmmmm…. The Hill, quack lawyer for big corporations with legions of staff to front for her.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Edwards, gun-slinging trial lawyer who kicked ass in many a confrontation with corporate America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yet he’s the one that’s ‘our of his league…’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I gotta say pal that that description fits you a lot better than him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Guess I have a winner here. Still not sure about some stuff, but I think I have enough evidence now to go NH for Edwards.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1071300"><em>A.Citizen @ 125</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1071285"><em>Get Tough @ 113</em></a></p>
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<p>Beg to differ on two fronts:  (1) HRC will not, I repeat, will NOT allow any power the Bushies have accumulated while at “war” go without a fight.  An HRC admin. will not take the Bushies to task because they succeeded in giving the next President an enormous amount of unjust power, and she COVETS that.  And (2), Edwards is out off his league.  Like Plato warned, demogagues make terrible leaders because they simply cannot live up to all that they promise.</p>
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<p>Hmmmm…. The Hill, quack lawyer for big corporations with legions of staff to front for her.</p>
<p>John Edwards, gun-slinging trial lawyer who kicked ass in many a confrontation with corporate America.</p>
<p>Yet he’s the one that’s ‘our of his league…’</p>
<p>I gotta say pal that that description fits you a lot better than him.</p>
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<p>Guess I have a winner here. Still not sure about some stuff, but I think I have enough evidence now to go NH for Edwards.</p>
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		<title>By: midwestvoter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/the-foggy-bottom-blues/#comment-1072345</link>
		<dc:creator>midwestvoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071917&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cinnamonape @ 195&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071193&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steve-AR @ 42&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Has this been posted? Hunter is insane.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071101/us-iraq-embassy/&quot;&gt;HuffPo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is he suggesting that the Bush Administration order wounded Veterans into Iraq to serve at the embassy there?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Somehow I don’t think that this would be appreciated by the wounded Veterans, either? Is he suggesting that they are subject to call-up yet one more time, even while undergoing rehabilitation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The guys insane! If he really believes this have him draw up a Bill and watch the fallout!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; And does he really think that m without diplomatic experience could run a diplomatic commercial office, administer Agricultural Assistance programs, evaluate Visa applications by Iraqi businessmen and students?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if is talking about OTHER Embassies…how many ofb these wounded Vets speak Indonesian, Hindi, Mandarin, or are versed in the cultures of the places they would be stationed?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, Hunter is batsh*t crazy!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, if we can’t blow up our diplomats and blame it on Iran cause they all quit before being forced to go, the plan can still work by blowing up wounded veterans!  Think about it…wounded GI’s being bombed by Iranian evil doers- Sweet jesus- EVERYONE would be screaming for Cheney to attack Iran, then!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are going to Iran and need a reason, fast. Duncan may not be insane, afterall.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1071917"><em>cinnamonape @ 195</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1071193"><em>Steve-AR @ 42</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Has this been posted? Hunter is insane.<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071101/us-iraq-embassy/">HuffPo</a></p>
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<p>Is he suggesting that the Bush Administration order wounded Veterans into Iraq to serve at the embassy there?</p>
<p>Somehow I don’t think that this would be appreciated by the wounded Veterans, either? Is he suggesting that they are subject to call-up yet one more time, even while undergoing rehabilitation?</p>
<p>The guys insane! If he really believes this have him draw up a Bill and watch the fallout!</p>
<p> And does he really think that m without diplomatic experience could run a diplomatic commercial office, administer Agricultural Assistance programs, evaluate Visa applications by Iraqi businessmen and students?  </p>
<p>And if is talking about OTHER Embassies…how many ofb these wounded Vets speak Indonesian, Hindi, Mandarin, or are versed in the cultures of the places they would be stationed?</p>
<p>Again, Hunter is batsh*t crazy!</p>
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<p>Well, if we can’t blow up our diplomats and blame it on Iran cause they all quit before being forced to go, the plan can still work by blowing up wounded veterans!  Think about it…wounded GI’s being bombed by Iranian evil doers- Sweet jesus- EVERYONE would be screaming for Cheney to attack Iran, then!</p>
<p>They are going to Iran and need a reason, fast. Duncan may not be insane, afterall.</p>
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		<title>By: midwestvoter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/the-foggy-bottom-blues/#comment-1072333</link>
		<dc:creator>midwestvoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s a thought: what if, once our diplomats are successfully forced to take residence in the Iraqi US Embassy, they- by sheer coincidence of course, get bombed by the evil doers in Iran, galvanizing support for Cheney’s Iran war wet dream? And if, by chance, this purely coincidental attack and murder of our innocent diplomats happened, say around our Christmas holiday, would the fundies rally around support for nuclear retaliation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just a thought. Cuz nobody believes (especially the diplomats)these guys are being sent for “diplomacy”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a thought: what if, once our diplomats are successfully forced to take residence in the Iraqi US Embassy, they- by sheer coincidence of course, get bombed by the evil doers in Iran, galvanizing support for Cheney’s Iran war wet dream? And if, by chance, this purely coincidental attack and murder of our innocent diplomats happened, say around our Christmas holiday, would the fundies rally around support for nuclear retaliation?</p>
<p>Just a thought. Cuz nobody believes (especially the diplomats)these guys are being sent for “diplomacy”.</p>
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		<title>By: Magi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/the-foggy-bottom-blues/#comment-1072069</link>
		<dc:creator>Magi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071319&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;realworld @ 139&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071184&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 36&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;George W. Bush.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think your letting her off much too easily. I suspect the case can be made that she made and controls him almost as much as darth has done.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Amen!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1071319"><em>realworld @ 139</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1071184"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 36</em></a></p>
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<p>George W. Bush.</p>
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<p>I think your letting her off much too easily. I suspect the case can be made that she made and controls him almost as much as darth has done.</p>
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<p>Amen!</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/the-foggy-bottom-blues/#comment-1071954</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excusez moi:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;snarKasSIXTEEN!!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excusez moi:<br />
<i>snarKasSIXTEEN!!</i></p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/the-foggy-bottom-blues/#comment-1071946</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071193&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steve-AR @ 42&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Has this been posted? Hunter is insane.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., the House Armed Services Committee’s top Republican, said he intends to suggest that diplomats who refuse to serve in Iraq be replaced by wounded veterans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Let’s replace these reluctant Nellies with America’s finest citizens,” he said in a statement. “Our wounded warriors will serve our country efficiently, effectively and with undying patriotism.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071101/us-iraq-embassy/&quot;&gt;HuffPo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now this is about the cruelest thing I think I’ve heard in a while, whether he “meant” it or not.  Someone in Congress, please channel Joseph Welch?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re Cassie at 28. Since we only know the facts in spots (whoever said GWB has the short answer), I was trying to think of a story that captured it. Medea is a pretty good parallel, without the children. Maybe Condi’s an original, though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1071193"><em>Steve-AR @ 42</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Has this been posted? Hunter is insane.</p>
<blockquote><p>Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., the House Armed Services Committee’s top Republican, said he intends to suggest that diplomats who refuse to serve in Iraq be replaced by wounded veterans.</p>
<p>“Let’s replace these reluctant Nellies with America’s finest citizens,” he said in a statement. “Our wounded warriors will serve our country efficiently, effectively and with undying patriotism.”</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071101/us-iraq-embassy/">HuffPo</a></p>
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<p>Now this is about the cruelest thing I think I’ve heard in a while, whether he “meant” it or not.  Someone in Congress, please channel Joseph Welch?</p>
<p>Re Cassie at 28. Since we only know the facts in spots (whoever said GWB has the short answer), I was trying to think of a story that captured it. Medea is a pretty good parallel, without the children. Maybe Condi’s an original, though.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/the-foggy-bottom-blues/#comment-1071920</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071253&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;CTuttle @ 86&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071238&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steve-AR @ 73&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;WTF if this about?? Obama refuses to sign the Webb letter after beating up on Hillary about Iran.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/01/new-08-iran-rift-obama-_n_70807.html&quot;&gt;HuffPo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whoa Nellie, check this out…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Democrat Barack Obama introduced a Senate resolution late Thursday that says President Bush does not have authority to use military force against Iran, the latest move in a debate with presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton about how to respond to that country’s nuclear ambitions.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3808836&quot;&gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Poli.....id=3808836&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ummm! I don’t know. This could really backfire. What if the resolution fails? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because it only would take a handful of Democrats to vote “Nay” and it would then give Bush yet one more “green light”…the assumption that if it doesn’t pass…then the contrary must be true.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; And Bush would not have to then get a resolution at all. He could point at this failing and say “The majority of the Senate voted refused to support a resolution that I don’t have the authority…thus the agree I DO have the authority.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope that Obama realizes this and didn’t simply put the resolution up for political gamesmanship. Certainly Clinton and all the other candidates will support it…but it may not pass despite this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1071253"><em>CTuttle @ 86</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1071238"><em>Steve-AR @ 73</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>WTF if this about?? Obama refuses to sign the Webb letter after beating up on Hillary about Iran.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/01/new-08-iran-rift-obama-_n_70807.html">HuffPo</a></p>
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<p>Whoa Nellie, check this out…</p>
<p>“Democrat Barack Obama introduced a Senate resolution late Thursday that says President Bush does not have authority to use military force against Iran, the latest move in a debate with presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton about how to respond to that country’s nuclear ambitions.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3808836">http://www.abcnews.go.com/Poli&#8230;..id=3808836</a></p>
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<p>Ummm! I don’t know. This could really backfire. What if the resolution fails? </p>
<p>Because it only would take a handful of Democrats to vote “Nay” and it would then give Bush yet one more “green light”…the assumption that if it doesn’t pass…then the contrary must be true.</p>
<p> And Bush would not have to then get a resolution at all. He could point at this failing and say “The majority of the Senate voted refused to support a resolution that I don’t have the authority…thus the agree I DO have the authority.”</p>
<p>I hope that Obama realizes this and didn’t simply put the resolution up for political gamesmanship. Certainly Clinton and all the other candidates will support it…but it may not pass despite this.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071193&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steve-AR @ 42&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Has this been posted? Hunter is insane.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., the House Armed Services Committee’s top Republican, said he intends to suggest that diplomats who refuse to serve in Iraq be replaced by wounded veterans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Let’s replace these reluctant Nellies with America’s finest citizens,” he said in a statement. “Our wounded warriors will serve our country efficiently, effectively and with undying patriotism.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071101/us-iraq-embassy/&quot;&gt;HuffPo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is he suggesting that the Bush Administration order wounded Veterans into Iraq to serve at the embassy there?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Somehow I don’t think that this would be appreciated by the wounded Veterans, either? Is he suggesting that they are subject to call-up yet one more time, even while undergoing rehabilitation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The guys insane! If he really believes this have him draw up a Bill and watch the fallout!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; And does he really think that m without diplomatic experience could run a diplomatic commercial office, administer Agricultural Assistance programs, evaluate Visa applications by Iraqi businessmen and students?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if is talking about OTHER Embassies…how many ofb these wounded Vets speak Indonesian, Hindi, Mandarin, or are versed in the cultures of the places they would be stationed?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, Hunter is batsh*t crazy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1071193"><em>Steve-AR @ 42</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Has this been posted? Hunter is insane.</p>
<blockquote><p>Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., the House Armed Services Committee’s top Republican, said he intends to suggest that diplomats who refuse to serve in Iraq be replaced by wounded veterans.</p>
<p>“Let’s replace these reluctant Nellies with America’s finest citizens,” he said in a statement. “Our wounded warriors will serve our country efficiently, effectively and with undying patriotism.”</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071101/us-iraq-embassy/">HuffPo</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Is he suggesting that the Bush Administration order wounded Veterans into Iraq to serve at the embassy there?</p>
<p>Somehow I don’t think that this would be appreciated by the wounded Veterans, either? Is he suggesting that they are subject to call-up yet one more time, even while undergoing rehabilitation?</p>
<p>The guys insane! If he really believes this have him draw up a Bill and watch the fallout!</p>
<p> And does he really think that m without diplomatic experience could run a diplomatic commercial office, administer Agricultural Assistance programs, evaluate Visa applications by Iraqi businessmen and students?  </p>
<p>And if is talking about OTHER Embassies…how many ofb these wounded Vets speak Indonesian, Hindi, Mandarin, or are versed in the cultures of the places they would be stationed?</p>
<p>Again, Hunter is batsh*t crazy!</p>
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		<title>By: tw3k</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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