Fake, Apolitical Steven Boylan
Real, Politicized Steven Boylan
(Compare and Contrast Illustrations courtesy of the bildungblog)
In September, a person pretending to be Boylan attempted to rent a vacation cabin from Fred Humphrey, a retired English professor in Guilford, Vt. The cops foiled the plan; a $3,000 check that the fake Boylan wrote to Humphrey proved to be bogus. Boylan told Greenwald that the incident suggested that someone is masquerading as the colonel online.
Late last night Fred Humphrey, the cabin owner in Vermont, sent Salon copies of his correspondence with the fake Boylan. These messages to Humphrey look very different from the disputed e-mail to Greenwald — they don’t bear the same return address, they don’t come through the same server, and they’re written in a different style. The real fake Boylan — the scammer who tried to defraud Humphrey — looks, in other words, to be a completely separate person from the fellow who accused Greenwald of being “too lazy to do the research on the topics to gain the facts.”
This does not prove that the e-mail to Greenwald was really from Boylan. But if Boylan’s credibility, so far, has been on life support, now it’s at Code Blue.
(…)
OK, you might say, but maybe there are two — or more — people pretending to be Boylan. Maybe there’s an unsophisticated fake Boylan who uses Gmail to mount a vacation-home scam, and maybe there’s another very crafty fake Boylan who can route his missives through the military’s network in an effort to bash lefty critics.
If you believe that’s more likely than the alternate explanation — that the real Boylan, aghast that Greenwald had published his rant, used the clumsy, fake Boylan as an easy out — well, then, I’ve got a vacation home I’d like to rent to you in Vermont.
Gang, in light of these developments, I have decided to toss out that old Occam’s Razor and go with the supposition that Col. Steven Boylan is in fact suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder. He has “alters” that write his nasty emails and then retreat to the cobwebby corners of his wee pointy head.
In fact, I am writing a screenplay about it which I am hoping to option as a Lifetime Original Movie™, “The Three Faces of Steve”. It will star Dennis Franz (with a Third Reich comb-over) as a plucky US Army officer in Baghdad and explore his sometimes comic, sometimes tragic relationship with the two other personalities lurking in his mind. One is an embittered alcoholic spinster and Internet con artist (with a heart of gold, natch) who will be voiced by Stockard Channing. The other is an angry four-year-old of indeterminate gender who will be portrayed by Kathy Najimy.
It’s gonna be great. Just you wait and see.
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TRex!
Steve-AR @ 1
Heh, Ya beat me!
All hail Big T!
CTuttle @ 5
Pure luck, I just hit the spinning wheel of doom by accident.
To The Three Faces of Steve!
excellent TRex
has anyone let downstairs know?
Suzanne @ 8
Yes’m!
excellent, thanks ct
i think the therapod is still grocery shopping (or perhaps putting away the groceries and cooking dinner) but i’m sure he will be along soon.
No, I’m here still doing last minute tweaks on the post.
I’d love to come to the opening T.
Or there’s always the ol’ matter/antimatter hypothesis.
I read all of those posts yesterday..My first thought was how sad that the military has been totally subverted and two that this guy is rational compared to the Air Force fundies who are going to bomb Iran.
Yin/yang.
sorry, trex… didn’t know you were back
(backpedaling gracefully from previous comment)
ain’t no alter Boylan
Unless of course this is from the FAKE TRex…
“He has ‘alters’ that write his nasty emails and then retreat to the cobwebby corners of his wee pointy head.”
OK, what is spookier, his being Multi-Personality, or his Iraqi PAO email is hacked…
Hmmm. @ 18
Well he does have an evil twin ….
(Sorry Patrick. just kidding.)
wasn’t there a WWII ace named pappy boylan? or am i misremembering the black sheep?
punaise @ 17
Repugs create their own reality…. expect to be able to bluff and cow anyone who does not live in their reality. And win…. when they don’t, they whine
Shame his parents didn’t name his Lance Boylan.
katymine @ 22
and then attack the messenger and not the message.
Lancing the Boylan.
Hey I think my Lifetime movie has a new title!
you need a lolBoylan TRex!
Lifetime? I was thinking The Military Channel would be interested, TRex.
One thing I’ve learned about wingnuts (in all their forms) is that when they are busted they have a slew of excuses that they can use.
They watch and see what works and what doesn’t.
If they can get away with the, “somebody is faking my emails,” they will. If they can say that the other person is lying they will. And ever time an excuse is beaten down they will come up with another one. It’s like if A doesn’t work, I’ll use B, if B is busted I’ll use C.
I saw how the people at K S F O used multiple excuses when they got busted. And they used the excuses on their advertisers who sometimes gave them the benefit of the doubt. But they also learned from watching the President. He never apologizes (because that would be seen as weak) so they figure, why should *I* apologize?
Suzanne @ 21
Um, wasn’t that Greg “Pappy” Boyington, rather?
Suzanne @ 21
Col. Boyington!
Wiki…
Colonel Gregory “Pappy” Boyington, USMC, (December 4, 1912 – January 11, 1988) was an American fighter ace. Boyington flew initially with the American Volunteer Group (”The Flying Tigers”) in the Republic of China Air Force during the Second Sino-Japanese War. He later commanded the famous U.S. Marine Corps squadron, VMF-214 (”The Black Sheep Squadron”) during World War II. Boyington became a prisoner of war later in the war. For his U.S. Marine Corps service he was awarded the Navy Cross and the Medal of Honor.
Suzanne @ 21
Pappy Boyington
thanks, i wasn’t sure if i had it right or not.
I’m slow tonight.
Fear of appearing weak is for the weak.
You know, if the email isn’t reliable, get another freaking account. If it’s working for you, don’t claim it’s making mistakes.
Meanwhile, some old-school political corruption at the CPSC.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..id=topnews
Suzanne @ 32
Good enough for Government work…! ;-)
We create our own reality.
The historians will decide if it was right or not.
They are still arguing about George Washington so I’m not worried about what they will say about me.
Loo Hoo. @ 35
my work email often blocks incoming mail that it thinks is junk, but i have never had a problem with outgoing on any account i’ve ever had. (except the SMPT settings on the PC, but that’s a me problem)
Wasn’t boylan using his military email account? the us.gov thing?
Geez, have a look at the guy. If I was going to steal someone else’s identity, it’d be someone way better-paid than Boylan, and probably much better looking.
Loo Hoo. @ 35
lol! seriously, get a relay or something.
Hey, Spocko, did you get an email from Melanie Morgan tonight?
I want someone to call for an investigation of who has been hacking into the government email system of military members serving in Iraq….. boy that should be the BIG repug issue …. If this bozo doesn’t have a personality disorder then it HAS to be a hacker …
Aren’t they the security party?
Suzanne @ 40
.mil
Party game —- if you were going to steal one person’s identity online for 24 hours and be assured you would not get caught, whose would you steal?
petedownunder @ 33
Yeah. Totally missed the new post :-P
Ah well…
persiflage @ 41
Thorpedo? Andrew Symonds? Harry Kewell?
TexBetsy @ 46
Mark Cuban!
You know, there has to be some junior officer who works in that same department who just LOATHES Boylan and it sooooo enjoying the spectacle he’s making of himself.
exactly, katymine
thanks, trex.
yeap, he is claiming his military account was hacked and someone sent out fake emails from it and yet, there is no investigation and he is still using the account.
oh yeah, i’ll buy that along with the bridge and some ocean front property in arizona too.
TRex @ 50
That guy have Boylan’s password?
TRex @ 50
There are certainly many of us civvies who are enjoying said spectacle!
TexBetsy @ 46
President Bush.
No contest.
Dick Cheney – and I would send just one email – announcing my resignation due to health reasons.
boylan picked the wrong guy to send his rant to.
The man’s focus is amazing. He’s got the whole lawyer thing going on and he is so prolific.
I spoke to him at the KOS convention and I was commenting on how amazed I was that he cranked out his books so fast. “Well I used to have to create a lot of briefs very fast so I was used to the pace.”
It sometimes takes me HOURS to write 1000 word post, I can’t imagine doing a book.
TRex @ 54
How much could you fix in 24 hrs.
Laughing, TRex has the boosh and I’ve got the dick.
Suzanne @ 55
Ding! My thought, too.
oh yeah, i’ll buy that along with the bridge and some ocean front property in arizona too.
Hey…. been waiting for CA to fall into the ocean to have that beach front property… ;)
The biggest security risk are those users who never shut down their computer and do not have it set to revert to password login after X minutes. You would think the military network IT would have it already set to lock after idle after X minutes. But then again….. we are talking about Bush’s government ….. na… can’t be could it?
I would assume Der Chimpenfuhrer’s identity and email where all the bodies are buried and all the secrets are hidden to every major news organization on the planet. Then I would email Speaker Pelosi and demand that she accept my and Dick Cheney’s resignations effective immediately.
THEN I would dump huge amounts of Bush family money into the national treasury. HUGE amounts.
I would email the Hague with a full tally of war crimes and the names of all the operatives who helped lay the groundwork for the Iraq War. Then I’d email the Pentagon and demand immediate withdrawal from Iraq. I would tell everyone that I am suffering from some kind of brain disorder with only periodic bouts of lucidity and that these are the only words from my desk that you can trust. Period.
Gosh, and that’s only about an hour down!
The man with the rental property mentioned that whoever wrote him had “stilted” language and he thought surely a military officer of that rank would write better than that.
Stilted and poorly written sounds so much like a Boylan email; I’m surprised it isn’t.
that will leave ya plenty of bike riding time, trex
TRex @ 61
Only problem with this scenario is that no one will believe it’s really Bush doing any of those things.
TRex, I like that plan!
burnspbesq @ 48
Ya know, not being feloniously inclined, or, more honestly, not having the courage to follow through on my felonious inclinations, I haven’t given it much thought. Someone with money and looks – that rules out any right-wingers and most politicians. Oh, I know, Mitt Romney!
TexBetsy @ 46
Rove. And I would email everyone I could think of in the press, and just make up all kinds of dishy stuff about some goopers. It’s what he does anyway, I’m sure I could do as well. I was a fat, bespectacled kid in elementary school once, too.
Suzanne @ 58
7O7!!
spocko @ 56
Takes me an hour just to type a coherent comment! Glenn is just plain prolific.
By the time we hit hours, I’ve been distracted by 11 other things and completely forgotten that I was writing anything at all.
TexBetsy @ 70
a side effect of blogging while around teens.
TexBetsy @ 46
The Pope. In 24 hours I should be able to manage approving contraception, women priests, gay priests and then I’d perform my first gay marriage.
that’s a great one persi. i like it. don’t forget to atone and repent for the church’s sexual scandals.
Soon to be available at my place, breaking news:
Hollywood writers going on strike (AP)
from Yahoo! News
Adam Fierro, television writer, and executive producer of the police drama series ‘The Shield,’ left, jokes over a take with actor David Rees Snell, right, during the series filming downtown Los Angeles Thursday, Nov. 1, 2007. The Writers Guild of America was on the verge of calling its first strike in nearly 20 years on Thursday after negotiations collapsed and their contract with producers expired at midnight Wednesday. (AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes)AP – Television and movie screen writers said Thursday they would go on strike for the first time in nearly 20 years in a dispute over royalties.
The other problem with my plan is that Boosh doesn’t use the Internets. No computer. He says it’s for security reasons, but I think he’s just too thick to operate anything more complicated than a TV remote.
persiflage @ 41
Dang, some thunda from down under… G’day!
PRESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENT FOR 2008:
You must be able to operate a computer at least as well as a ten year old.
Effort to save Everglades falters as funds dwindle
from Amer – Herald Trib
Seven years into the plan to rescue the Florida Everglades, the largest and most expensive environmental restoration project on the planet, government financing has slowed to a trickle.
TexBetsy @ 46
Melinda Gates.
I would set up several (more) foundations and donate bunches of money to them and hire myself as a researcher of worthy candidates for pots of money!
TRex @ 77
A 10 yr old with reasonable intelligence being raised in an industrialized nation.
I have a lot to do tomorrow so better head to bed….. packing… getting the car smogged…. pay bills… better mark this comment so I can remember what I need to do tomorrow….
Grand Old Party
from TPM Josh Marshall by Josh Marshall
“Republican Stategist” Rachel Marsden: “One man’s torture is another man’s CIA-sponsored swim lesson.”
Margot @ 78
oh margot, that is another excellent one.
TexBetsy @ 79
And how many hours of the cost of the war in Iraq would it take to pay for it, I wonder.
sleep well katymine. write the number of the comment too.
katymine @ 81
Heh, Make a list and check it twice… Nite, Katy!
TexBetsy @ 82
That’s that poor disturbed girl I wrote about last year.
TexBetsy @ 85
Will do… Dave Letterman whining about the writers strike that he is the one who will be hurt….
g’nite katy
March is last year TRex? Only to practicing Jews and school kids.
Suzanne @ 83
IRS agent looking into Warren Buffett’s affairs, pay me…! ;-)
Sample quote from my Rachel Marsden piece:
TexBetsy @ 90
Everything to me that happened further back than I can remember what I ate that day falls under the vague mental heading of “last year”, I guess.
Suzanne @ 73
I think I’m going to have to make a list. OK, sincere apologies for ALL the stuff church has done in the past. And get those poor Vatican guard guys uniforms that don’t look stupid.
LOL Persi!
TRex @ 92
is she the one that took over for the bat shit crazy one?
Back from a kickass concert! I’m tempted to celebrate! – but have to hold off, ’cause I’ve got tons of work over the next three or four days.
Okay. Must eat. Take Flexeril. Go to bed.
Good night, everyone!
T, while you’re being Bush, can you get rid of No Child Left Thinking before you resign?
g’nite TRex – sleep well
flexeril is good stuff and will help those spasms.
Night TRex. Feel good soon.
Welcome ET.
time for me to fold, too!
night, all! saturday should be interesting!
Ed*ard Teller @ 97
woohoo, guilty on all 4 counts!
:::singing::: another one bits the dust
sleep well PB
TRex @ 87
Wow, all the usual suspects were there on the thread, but me, hmmm… I missed that party!
g’nite pb
Ed*ard Teller @ 97
OK, how freaking cool is that!
And nice work, ET!
Ed*ard Teller @ 97
Hey, three outta four charges against Vic had put me in a celebratory mood already! *g*
Oh TRex, thanks for the trip down memory lane. That was the thread where YOUTHinkleft was born.
Wow, all the usual suspects were there on the thread, but me, hmmm… I missed that party!
perhaps mrs ct grounded you from the internets for the evening
Suzanne @ 27
There is a Military channel? Really?
newspaperbrat @ 112
yeap, on the expanded comcast in monterey bay it is channel 274, between national geographic and the biography channel.
suzanne – it was 3 out of 4, but he faces a minimum of five years. Now that Kohring’s trial is over, they’ve finished the first echelon of indictments. Supposedly, the shoe now drops on Ben and Ted Stevens, and about twelve or more others. We’ll see. This is, after all Bushworld…
Ed*ard Teller @ 114
thanks 3 out of 4.
i want the stevens clan indicted. is that too much to ask for. i would think – hope – maybe this coming week?
Suzanne @ 115
And convicted on 3/4 of the charges?
as long as the convictions are felonies, tex.
TexBetsy @ 116
yep
newspaperbrat @ 112
Really! And an awesome web site…
http://www.military.com/
TexBetsy @ 116
Yeah, TexBetsy. I didn’t think the one he got off on would fly with this jury – predicted as much early this morning, so I wasn’t surprised. It was far more serious, carrying 10 to 35 and a $750,000 fine.
burnspbesq @ 36
Industries Paid for Top Regulators’ Travel
The Nord woman was before Congress this week telling them NOT to increase her budget. Said they really don’t need the money. And here she is crying about not having enough money to travel. Pelosi is calling on her to resign. Unbelievable, there is absolutely no line that these crooks wont cross. Self-regulating industries and self-regulating Republicans are how you get lead paint in kids toys and dead pets. And illegal, immoral wars of choice.
link
Ed*ard Teller @ 120
But, He’s still looking at five, and, as I mentioned earlier, will he sing like a canary…?
I think it would be interesting to assume Larry Flynt’s identity and send an e-mail to all news media outlets:
“I know you all have been waiting for me to name some names and tell some tales. Well, here they are…”
neurophius @ 123
oooooh, that is evil
i like it
Radio host rallies blacks for Friday boycott
from CNN.com Recently Published/Updated
A nationally syndicated radio host is urging black Americans to refrain from spending money Friday, and his efforts are garnering support from some of the civil rights movement’s heaviest hitters.
I just posted my co-blogger’s most recent post. He’s my friend who still thinks Vic was framed. Click on my nom-de-blog…
Librarians Say Surveillance Bills Lack Adequate Oversight
from wa po politics by Ellen Nakashima
A little-remarked feature of pending legislation on domestic surveillance has provoked alarm among university and public librarians who say it could allow federal intelligence-gathering on library patrons without sufficient court oversight.
your co-blogger is taking it hard but putting up a brave face, et. it is hard when a good friend is convicted of something you don’t think he could have possibly done.
Ed*ard Teller @ 126
Fred forgot one, ET – Presidential pardon not offered.
Damned Chimp!
my bolds
ET – I just wanted to congratulate the way you and your co-blogger have reported. Not just for the great writing but because you’ve proved that adults, even those with opposing beliefs, can work together to give both sides of a situation. Gee, you don’t even call each other mean names.
persiflage @ 130
How true, Sheila!
TexBetsy @ 46
Toss up:
Matt Drudge – and have an online conversion debunking all the spin. or……..
David Addington – and spend the day snooping in
in the harddrive and demanding immediate reports on activity status from everyone on his e-mail list.
good choices sunny.
TRex @ 23
Oooh! You are sharp tonight. I especially liked the “peeled potato in a caftan” remark in the previous thread.
Senators trying to stop Bush vote thief. Help them do that.
from Cliff Schecter by GottaLaff
http://cliffschecter.bravenewf…..em-do-that
Minority voter suppression can, and did, lose us elections. We have to stop it before it does again. Glen Ford:
[T]he Bush men are busily deploying their criminal cadre in key election-stealing positions. Arch vote-thief Hans von Spakovsky, who helped turn the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division into a Dixie-style klavern of hostility to Blacks and browns, was set to sail through Senate confirmation to a seat on the Federal Election Commission, where he could protect GOP ballot-snatchers in 2008. As if in the grip of a death wish, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid OK’d the deal to allow Spakovsky to set up shop in the FEC – only to be defied by Senators Russ Feingold and Barack Obama.
There’s a link to a petition that I’m including further down. Please go sign it.
A Black Agenda Radio Commentary by Glen Ford
“The key to the caper is having one’s goons in place, before Election Day, to knock off the opposition.”
No matter what the polls say, the GOP will win or lose the 2008 election based on, not its popularity, but its criminal skills. […] The key to the caper is having one’s goons in place, before Election Day, to knock off the opposition. And, as always, the main opposition to perpetual Republican rule is Black folks. For the GOP to win, literally millions of Black and Latino votes and potential votes must be suppressed.
persiflage @ 130
I swear, he doesn’t. I think we are better friends than in a long time, after this. He’s going through an ordeal, not me, and I’ve tried to anticipate the sadness he failed – and still sorta fails – to see coming down in all this. I’m sort of a Romantic, but he’s an uber Romantic when it comes to thinking there’s something to the failed marriage between secret libertarians and out-and-out fascists, which has been one of the hallmarks of GOP politics since 1994.
Oof, Addington, that would be priceless…
i would love to read addington’s notes. you just know he is as copious of a note-taker as scooter was.
both anal little note-takers.
ET: I really enjoyed your shared blog on the Kohring trial. Novel having the two views; also enjoyed hearing both of you on KUDO – - very cool. Your buddy and Vic’s biggest fan had some interesting views to say the least. Oh and nice one about Dan Fagan. :)
Wanna get inspired?
TexBetsy @ 140
if only our media would be so brave
I am going to call it a night.
Been fun.
pain free sleep wishes, tex (and thanks for the candy goodies)
Ahgoo @ 139
Which one? He’s actually commented. I find Fagan the most dangerous current carpetbagger being given a major forum in Anchorage.
TexBetsy @ 142
Sleep well, Ma’am!
TexBetsy @ 142
nite Tex. Thanks for the great fantasy.
TexBetsy @ 142
Niters & good sleep dear Betsy!
Oh, and thanks to all of you who made the birthday girl feel so special tonight.
google’s challenge to facebook
looks like a possible Portable Social Network
ET, I miss one day on your blog and the show is over. Wow! Looking forward to the catch up.
I just had a vision of January 2009. Hil wins (perhaps under suspicious circumstances), and then grants a blanket pardon to the entire Bush administration, all of its private-sector contractors, and the DoD, “to start the healing and put an end to our Long National Nightmare”.
Hmmm.
ET: I swear, he doesn’t. I think we are better friends than in a long time, after this. He’s going through an ordeal, not me, and I’ve tried to anticipate the sadness he failed – and still sorta fails – to see coming down in all this. I’m sort of a Romantic, but he’s an uber Romantic when it comes to thinking there’s something to the failed marriage between secret libertarians and out-and-out fascists, which has been one of the hallmarks of GOP politics since 1994.
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He’s lucky to have somebody so sympathetic to his feelings as you are. Reading his latest posts is a bit like watching somebody have their heart broken. Again, a great, honest effort by both of you to convey not just the facts of the trial, but the impact on two people with completely different perceptions of the defendant. Great work by some real grown-ups.
Hmmm. @ 151
yup, then round up all the DFH bloggers ;)
Tw3k, youre a Dune geek right? (forgive me if Im wrong)
New Dune Movie?
smapdi @ 154
Tw3k’s one of several Dune geeks in these parts. ^^
TexBetsy @ 148
She is special…
Argh! Time is flying, I’ve gotta get to the store before it’s too late to buy cat food. If I don’t want the hungry little tackers nibbling on my toes in my sleep, I’d better go shopping. Take care all, see you tomorrow!
No, I think that will be the end of it. BushCheneyAddingtonCo have overreached and the wheels are coming off a bit now. What they most need now is an exit strategy. Hence Hil as designated successor. I hope our worst fears about the crackdown at home will not materialize. The Beast will go back underground.
‘Til next time.
tw3k @ 149
Marc Andreessen, early internet hero, has a review.
smapdi @ 154
Not a huge fan but I liked the movie and watched it a few times.
Most movies from the last decade has left me snoozing and I’m too poor to go out anyways.
aliasofwestgate @ 155
:)
persiflage @ 157
{{{{persiflage}}}}
persiflage @ 157
Auf Wiedersehen!
Sorry Hmmmmm – would rather speculate on President Edwards dream cabinet with the bias that he’ll bring us some fresh untarnished progressives in his cabinet including a new department of peace headed by Kucinich.
take care persi
newspaperbrat @ 164
*gasp* If I wasn’t married, NPB! Ooh-la-la…! *g*
newspaperbrat @ 164
same here ;)
Suz, ya never saw that, right? ;-)
Nighters persiflage – waving too to your little tackers! ;~)
is this where i say IWIWAL, npb?
TexB @135
As if in the grip of a death wish, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid OK’d the deal to allow Spakovsky to set up shop in the FEC – only to be defied by Senators Russ Feingold and Barack Obama.
WTF? my outrage meter just blew
Suzanne @ 170
Are you implying something, Ma Cheri…??? 8-P
i’m not the one who is married here ct
Suzanne @ 173
Heh, however, I had heard that line one or twice from the missus… “If I leave, It’ll be for…!” Kinda deflating…
CTuttle @ 174
sorry ct – it could be worse – she could look, point, and laugh (i’ve heard that is the absolute worst thing a woman can vocalize)
Suzanne @ 175
Touche! 8-)
newspaperbrat @ 164
I’m just saying it would make sense, explain a lot of what we’re seeing. Only a Gerry Ford type could get these guys off the hook. The twist is that this time it could come from a (nominally anyway) Dem.
Personally if I were into fantasizing (so to speak) it’d be President K with a cabinet of Edwards, Gore, Whitehouse.
Hmmm. @ 177
Beam me up Scotty! I’m fantasizing to much…!
His Shortness, I’ve always been pegged with him by all the quizzes! Ironically, I’ve stood next to him and looked down into his eyes and shook his hand! ;-)
CTuttle @ 179
That pocket skit he did on TDS was funny.
This is good news…
Source: BRAD BLOG
BILL TO BAN DRE (TOUCH-SCREEN) VOTING MACHINES FINALLY INTRODUCED IN SENATE!
Nelson and Co-Sponsor Whitehouse Rewrite Originally Introduced Bill to Do Away with Discredited Systems by 2012 and ‘Any Subsequent Year’
– By Brad Friedman
After months of being told over and over by Rep. Rush Holt’s (D-NJ) office, People for the American Way (PFAW) and many of the other most ardent supporters of Holt’s flawed Election Reform Bill (HR811) that “there is no support in Congress for a ban on DREs”, Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) and co-sponsor Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) filed such a bill today.
Here’s the complete bill which we’ve yet to read in full. But note this item from page 41, Line 7:
RESTRICTION ON USE OF DIRECT RECORDING ELECTRONIC VOTING SYSTEMS -
A direct recording electronic voting system may not be used to administer any election for Federal office held in 2012 or any subsequent year.
A ban on such machines, finally? Yes! By 2012? Unfortunately, yes. But let’s overlook that last point for a moment to look at the bigger, and more important picture…
COMPLETE STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5238
tw3k @ 180
Wasn’t it Colbert? The tea cup, pot, and, bag, too…!
Well, I shall bid another fond adieu to the Lake! Aloha Oe!!!
Mahalo, CT.
g’nite ct
CTuttle @ 182
It was Colbert and they both seemed to be having a great time.
CTuttle @ 181
That is good! Too bad 2012 tho :/
from americablog
newspaperbrat @ 186
yeah, that’s right, looked like they did have fun too.
Suzanne @ 188
omg teh terraists will win!!!111
a win-win!
time for me to bail, folks – g’nite
I do so hope someone on Hillary’s team spies the win-win photo and share it with at least Bill. Thanks for the linky and laugh tw3k!
Hmmmm @177
Personally if I were into fantasizing (so to speak) it’d be President K with a cabinet of Edwards, Gore, Whitehouse.
————
I’m in, but we need Feingold -AG. Edwards would be genius at State. Whitehouse could run Homeland Sec (rename and dismantle it). Let Gore have the DOD budget and do his thing.
sweet dreams Suzanne.
newspaperbrat @ 193
heh, made me laught too :)
if you have the bandwidth it is fun to keep this window open. Just displays random images from the web.
Sweet dreams Suz and all sleepy pups. Will bid all you intrepid late nite FDL’ers a fond adieu.
poof!
SunnyNobility @ 194
I’ll jump on that bandwagon :D
And throw-in a Dept. of Civil Liberties headed by lee!
tw3k @ 196
Got it – very cool – tanks tw3k. Sweet dreams one and all.
tw3k @ 191
trying to give me nightmares?
Nothing wrong with Stockard Channing and Kath
Najimy, but I’d like to throw Jeanine Garofalo’s name in the ring.
h/t As bad as it is, it just got worse
selise @ 201
lol! no!
Ms. Najimy is extraordinarily poor casting, unless what you want is someone bubbly and wuvable? I think what you actually want is Roseanne Barr, with all her special “effusiveness.”
brit Navy to patrol Gulf in the spring
I missed this one:
Whitehouse Sniffing around Bush’s Executive Orders
tw3k @ 203
A reply in your Kos link:
I’m in Japan
And I can tell you that the big deal here is all about the fact that Oil was being funneled by the Bush administration to the Iraq theatre. I have doubts that the Japanese government was doing this on purpose, but once it was discovered they tried to cover it up. This was unsuccessful, and rather than make an even bigger story out of it they killed the whole program.
The Japanese public are not interested in looking like they were involved in any way with the Iraq disaster. They are even more freaked out about terrorism than we are, although they are much more effective, less alarmist and non-intrusive than the imbeciles in charge over there.
by Bakafish on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 12:13:09 AM PDT
SunnyNobility @ 208
I don’t understand:
Does he mean funnel oil out of iraq using the Japanese?
Good Morning, it’s FLIDAY, 45 and cloudy in Autumnal Blue Ridge GA.
Autumnal Equinox
has to be one of favorite word combos
tw3k @ 209
I see, from the NYT piece:
tw3k @ 211
I once saw a ‘new music’ concert where one of the percussion instruments (actually old truck springs) as listed as ‘the autumnal spring’.
I’ve been following the Boylan madness (and noted Howie Kurtz willing swallow of righty spin in his Washington Post ‘Media Chat’ Monday). Somehow, when I saw the Boylan photos, I said to my self, of course this man is a lying, posturing jerk of a mouthpiece.
And WaPo is having a ‘Bash the Clintons’ day, with the incomparable comedy styings of Chuck “Wheelchair General” Krauthammer (who couldn’t spell “Peronista” in early editions) and Ruth Marcus saying ‘Hillary ain’t no victim’.
Glad it’s the weekend and I’m going to see my dude.
And I found this translation of the Bible amusing, it’s in lolcat pidgin http://lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
From the Book of Genesis: Boreded Cieling Cat makinkgz Urf n stuffs
1 Oh hai. In teh beginnin Ceiling Cat maded the skiez An da Urfs, but he did not eated it.
2 Da Urfs no had shapez An haded dark face, An Ceiling Cat rode invisible bike over teh waterz.
3 An Ceiling Cat sayz, i can haz lite? An lite wuz.4 An Ceiling Cat sawed teh lite, to seez stuffs, An splitted teh lite from dark but taht wuz ok cuz kittehs can see in teh dark An not tripz over nethin.5 An Ceiling Cat sayed light Day An dark no Day. It were FURST!!!1
And on NPR I just heard Bush bash “move on dot org bloggers and Code Pink protestors.”
We are having an effect or he could still ignore us.
MR. Bill @ 213
good one, ‘the autumnal spring’ i like that.
I’ve only generally follow the Boylan thing from left blogistan :)
This lolBoylan is funny tho. I wonder if part of his to post bellicose crap on rightard blogs.
Yeah, forggetabut the media show and enjoy your man :)
MR. Bill @ 214
lol, yeah teh lolcat bible is funny. I suppose it’d more funny if you knew the regular bible. Kinda like Twain letters from earth.
da urfs, cracks me up.
Good morning, pups.
tw3k @ 217
!!1lol, yeah teh lolcat bible is funny. I suppose it’d more funny if you knew the regular bible. Kinda like Twain letters from earth.
da urfs, cracks me up.
Well I was raised by fundamentalists (bless their hearts) and can quote Chapter and Verse with the best of ‘em. (said in an exaggerated “Earnest Anglsey” inflection )-”For if the BLIND lead the BLIND, do they not both FALL into the DITCHah!”
mornin’ all…
Hey lindy and jayt.
o hai gud morning hao ar u al?
egregious @ 222
We’unz iz fiin, egregious..
And shouldn’t Marion be along by now?
what the heck am i doing up this
earlylate? been way sick – hours are totally turned around backwards – gonna try to stay up all day…unintentional hilarity could well ensue…
Good morning, pups. Today we have Bobo and Mr. Krugman in the Times. Bobo watched the recent debate and is trying to be MoDo, or possibly TOMC. He sucks at it even worse than they do. Mr. Krugman points out that Rudy Giuliani lies about stuff, and when offered a chance to correct the lies declines to do so, as he’s said he plans on continuing to run the ad in question.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee and tea are ready, and today I’ve got Thomas’ English muffins for you. Do try some of those pear preserves — they’re delicious. I’ll just sit here and be jealous until I head off for my third (and I hope last) bout of gum surgery. However, life isn’t all grim — it’s payday. Have a great Friday.
jayt @ 225
Well the shift to Standard time Sunday will be a train wreck for me. I wake at 430 eastern, and tend to fall out by 9, so I’ll be asleep by 8 next week. Curse you, Daylight savings….
MR. Bill @ 219
bleh, I went to sunday school once or twice when visiting my grandfolks. I don’t even remember the content.
egregious @ 222
lol o hai!!!1
Marion in Savannah @ 226
Aww jeez. The periodontist, bringer of pain.
I attribute the reluctance of dentists to prescribe effective (i.e. narcotic) pain relief to the Drug War.
Marion in Savannah @ 226
:( bummer! Fast healing to you Marion of the lake!
Good luck, Marion. Speedy recovery.
Alright, go for it under a Leo moon, got a fence to build today..
Love and peace, you are in good hands now that Marion is on Board.
Warm green tea is a good post dental mouthwash, btw…See you’uns on Monday..Be loving till then.
MR. Bill @ 227
Saving all this daylight just means there is less to spend. And there is even less of it on a rainy day. Makes no sense.
Actually, MR. Bill, my periodontist does prescribe sufficient pain meds, at least for me. I guess I’m lucky!
MR. Bill @ 227
Really? Sunday?
hmmm, maybe I should just put this off for a few days, head back to bed, and worry about it Monday.
Nah.
Ah, here is the code.google page for OpenSocial.
Marion in Savannah @ 235
My peridontist said, after the first horrific procedure ‘well have you tried advil’.
And when I insisted on some real pain medication, he acted like I was a junkie…
Ok have a good weekend all.
Bobo watched the recent debate and is trying to be MoDo, or possibly TOMC. He sucks at it…
wow – you got that one right – fake interviews should be the exclusive province of driftglass.
otoh, when drifty reads this, he, as the country’s pre-eminent authority on how to most properly destroy Bobo, may now have some irresistible material. worth keeping an eye out for…
See ya MR. BILL…
I can’t sleep even tho’ my work day starts in a couple of hours. Those Thomas’ English Muffins sure sound yummy – maybe with some ginger preserves?? Any left?
TRex is a bad boy.
Only Bill Frist and Charles
StrangeloveKrauthammerare allowed to make medical diagnoses without having examined the
victimpatient.P.S. Speaking of telemedicine: The Deciderator sounded off his meds yesterday at Heritage.
I’m afraid the Rapture is almost upon us.
OT but progressives need to be reminded. Today in America politics is all about money. Until that changes it’s time for progressives to pony up and put their money where their mouths are. Donate 10 or 20 bucks to help Donna Edwards defeat a lazy corrupt Bushdog Democrat. 25,000 progressives giving 20 bucks =’s $500,000. Money can affect more meaningful change than all the bitching in the world.
Good morning all.
Marion-good luck on the surgery. I have some pear preserves (actually pear butter) that I made myself. But its in the country and I’m in the city. Heading up this morning, so I’ll have ‘em for breakfast tomorrow. With a fresh croissant, I think.
allan_in_upstate @ 241
The decider most decidedly did
“All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out.” I. F. Stone
Link for contributing to Donna Edwards primary challenge of a Bushdog Democrat.
http://www.actblue.com/page/betterdemocrats
I’m afraid the Rapture is almost upon us.
Cool.
Means I’m gettin’ a new car or two – then I’m moving out of my apartment and into one of those big-ass mega-churches… Imagine the size of the play-room I could have…
Obama coming up on Morning Joe re Iran…
Mornin’ all!
mydd informs that Tom Udall has decided to run for Domenici’s seat, putting all 3 house seats in play, since Wilson is running to replace Domenici on the R side.
English muffins with pear preserves? Marion, thank you so much! Hope you survive the dental surgery today. Meds = good.
tw3k @ 206
now that really is nightmare inducing!
’scuse my bad manners.
morning!
selise @ 251
yup, gotta apply pressure against that!
tw3k @ 253
Apply directly to the forebrain.
Good Morning everyone.
Good luck with the surgery, Marion.
egregious @ 254
aftbrain, left brain right brain any brain!
A diary at DKos says that we’ve lost the support of Japan in Afghanistan.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/1/224912/213
selise @ 251
Once again, the inevitability message.
SunnyNobility @ 258
?
selise @ 259
in the infamous word of McCain
bomb bomb bomb
If anyone has heard me vent about my insurance blues at work, I’ve got an update. The contract was approved. With a 3% raise and increased insurance contribution my net salary will decrease $12/wk in 2008; add’l $7/wk in 2009. That’s assuming no increase in premiums. From this point forward, I will take home less and less money every year. We desperately need this issue to be addressed.
Shock jock Don Imus returns to airwaves
“We are ecstatic to bring Don Imus back to morning radio,” said WABC President and General Manager Steve Borneman. “Don’s unique brand of humor, knowledge of the issues and ability to attract big-name guests is unparalleled. He is rested, fired up and ready to do great radio.”
tw3k @ 260
i don’t think it’s inevitable
jayt @ 246
I’m afraid the place won’t be as empty as you think.
Much to *their* surprise.
selise @ 263
Listening to Philip Ghiraldi on http://www.antiwar.com/blog/20…..giraldi-7/ who sez that his contacts still in CIA say probability is 75-80%.
selise @ 263
me either!
My son (the ultimate whacko theory enthusiast) says the world ends in 2012. Gave me a list of supporting data.
I have a feeling that our pres believes this also.
selise @ 259
“Their presence may coincide with a crucial period in the West’s confrontation with Iran.
Observers believe that the spring is the last possible moment for President George W Bush to order military strikes against Iran’s nuclear programme. The imminence of America’s presidential election may make it impossible for Washington to carry out an attack any later.”
solai @ 267
yeah, I think the techtonics plates will flip in 2012 :D
Morning all….
I had a long phone conversation with the husband, who is on a stop on his trip back to NZ. He was at the Navy Sere (spelled right?) school in the late 60’s, I believe, and he was waterboarded there. He thinks that, rather than pontificating, the voting Senators and the Attny General nominee should volunteer to have the Navy “simulate” waterboarding them. They can be safe in the knowledge that they will not drown and that it is all supervised properly. There is no doubt in his mind that it is torture and he still has a shudder in his voice in recalling it after almost forty years.
(This is one of many things that he has never discussed much until now. He is filled with disgust that it is even debatable.)
eCAHNomics @ 265
yeah, i’m not saying i don’t think there’s a big risk – i do.
NZ Expat, now in KS @ 270 -
thank you for telling us of your husbands memories and thoughts.
Strong employment report up 166,000, double consensus.
August revised up by 4000, September revised down by 14000, so net influence of revisions is modestly negative, more than offset by big # for October.
Analysis: Employment is a lagging idicator, and the big gains were in services. Retail & manufacturing employment declined. Finance industry employment declined less than it will in the future. Employment will weaken in coming months, but good for now.
selise @ 263
Nor do I. But we’re being conditioned to view the unthinkable as a rational possibility.
This is beginning to sound like a Philip Roth novel.