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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;He&#8217;s an Incumbent.  That&#8217;s What We Do.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: dexxjones</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/hes-an-incumbent-thats-what-we-do/#comment-1072253</link>
		<dc:creator>dexxjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071922&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cinnamonape @ 105&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071759&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dexxjones @ 104&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;recall both pelosi and ried. luckily their states allow it. that, to me is tha best way to send a message that we DONT have to wait until ‘08 to make our displeasure known.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither California nor Nevada allow Congressional Representatives or Senators to be recalled. Where did you get your information?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Recall in both States are for State officers, not Federal positions. In fact it’s Unconstitutional to recall Federal elected officers. There is no provision for recall within the Constitution. A member of Congress can only be removed from that office by a vote of their peers expelling them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this is what i get for listening to talk radio, LOL! so much for that idea…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1071922"><em>cinnamonape @ 105</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1071759"><em>dexxjones @ 104</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>recall both pelosi and ried. luckily their states allow it. that, to me is tha best way to send a message that we DONT have to wait until ‘08 to make our displeasure known.</p>
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<p>Neither California nor Nevada allow Congressional Representatives or Senators to be recalled. Where did you get your information?</p>
<p>Recall in both States are for State officers, not Federal positions. In fact it’s Unconstitutional to recall Federal elected officers. There is no provision for recall within the Constitution. A member of Congress can only be removed from that office by a vote of their peers expelling them.</p>
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<p>this is what i get for listening to talk radio, LOL! so much for that idea…</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/hes-an-incumbent-thats-what-we-do/#comment-1071960</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluetoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Today in America politics is all about money.  Until that changes it’s time for progressives to pony up and put their money where their mouths are.  Donate 10 or 20 bucks to help Donna Edwards defeat a lazy corrupt Bushdog Democrat.  25,000 progressives giving 20 bucks =’s $500,000.  Money can affect more meaningful change than all the bitching in the world.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today in America politics is all about money.  Until that changes it’s time for progressives to pony up and put their money where their mouths are.  Donate 10 or 20 bucks to help Donna Edwards defeat a lazy corrupt Bushdog Democrat.  25,000 progressives giving 20 bucks =’s $500,000.  Money can affect more meaningful change than all the bitching in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/hes-an-incumbent-thats-what-we-do/#comment-1071922</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1071759&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dexxjones @ 104&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;recall both pelosi and ried. luckily their states allow it. that, to me is tha best way to send a message that we DONT have to wait until ‘08 to make our displeasure known.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither California nor Nevada allow Congressional Representatives or Senators to be recalled. Where did you get your information?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Recall in both States are for State officers, not Federal positions. In fact it’s Unconstitutional to recall Federal elected officers. There is no provision for recall within the Constitution. A member of Congress can only be removed from that office by a vote of their peers expelling them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1071759"><em>dexxjones @ 104</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>recall both pelosi and ried. luckily their states allow it. that, to me is tha best way to send a message that we DONT have to wait until ‘08 to make our displeasure known.</p>
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<p>Neither California nor Nevada allow Congressional Representatives or Senators to be recalled. Where did you get your information?</p>
<p>Recall in both States are for State officers, not Federal positions. In fact it’s Unconstitutional to recall Federal elected officers. There is no provision for recall within the Constitution. A member of Congress can only be removed from that office by a vote of their peers expelling them.</p>
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		<title>By: dexxjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>dexxjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;recall both pelosi and ried. luckily their states allow it. that, to me is tha best way to send a message that we DONT have to wait until ‘08 to make our displeasure known.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>recall both pelosi and ried. luckily their states allow it. that, to me is tha best way to send a message that we DONT have to wait until ‘08 to make our displeasure known.</p>
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		<title>By: willyloman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/hes-an-incumbent-thats-what-we-do/#comment-1071687</link>
		<dc:creator>willyloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“We should, of course, aim to have a clear majority of Progressive Dems. Should we also aim for a specific person to lead?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dennis Kucinich will not be allowed by the party to win the Presidency. However, if we push for House Rule IX to be used to unseat Pelosi, and make Kucinich Speaker, we can impeach and indict, then Kucinich will be able to push for the reforms we want as interim President. Then either run him as the incumbant in the ground swell of popularity, or sign him on with Edwards or Obama as VP.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We should, of course, aim to have a clear majority of Progressive Dems. Should we also aim for a specific person to lead?”</p>
<p>Dennis Kucinich will not be allowed by the party to win the Presidency. However, if we push for House Rule IX to be used to unseat Pelosi, and make Kucinich Speaker, we can impeach and indict, then Kucinich will be able to push for the reforms we want as interim President. Then either run him as the incumbant in the ground swell of popularity, or sign him on with Edwards or Obama as VP.</p>
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		<title>By: willyloman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/hes-an-incumbent-thats-what-we-do/#comment-1071683</link>
		<dc:creator>willyloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/10/29/how-to-declare-the-speaker-seat-vacant/&quot;&gt;http://willyloman.wordpress.co.....at-vacant/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then let’s get rid of her and put someone in as Speaker who will impeach Bush!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Then let’s get rid of her and put someone in as Speaker who will impeach Bush!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/01/hes-an-incumbent-thats-what-we-do/#comment-1071304</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If not Nancy, then who should be Speaker?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hadn’t thought of that question, but if we’re to have a strategy which will be most effective, then we should have a fairly specific final goal in mind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We should, of course, aim to have a clear majority of Progressive Dems. Should we also aim for a specific person to lead?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If not Nancy, then who should be Speaker?</p>
<p>I hadn’t thought of that question, but if we’re to have a strategy which will be most effective, then we should have a fairly specific final goal in mind.</p>
<p>We should, of course, aim to have a clear majority of Progressive Dems. Should we also aim for a specific person to lead?</p>
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		<title>By: diogenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1070908&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 60&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Considering that whoever wins this primary will win the general (unless Al pulls an RGJoe and runs on the &lt;em&gt;Maryland for Wynn&lt;/em&gt; ticket) wouldn’t Nancy Pelosi rather have a non-obstructionist Democrat in the seat?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a blue district of working people who favor impeaching the President.  What other districts are like that, but represented by Bush-enabling Democrats?  Oh, California’s Eighth District!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Teddy,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Based on my experience with the leadership of that most democratic of organizations, a labor union, I am of the opinion Bush Dogs serve the Speaker’s purpose. She can hide behind them. She, like my union, loved a good excuse to do nothing for the membership (but they were a shark collecting dues!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And of course she protects incumbents - she is one!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The irony boggles my mind when I consider what that old Robber Baron, Vanderbilt, had to say:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The public be damned!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s pretty much what the Speaker means.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1070908"><em>TeddySanFran @ 60</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Considering that whoever wins this primary will win the general (unless Al pulls an RGJoe and runs on the <em>Maryland for Wynn</em> ticket) wouldn’t Nancy Pelosi rather have a non-obstructionist Democrat in the seat?</p>
<p>It’s a blue district of working people who favor impeaching the President.  What other districts are like that, but represented by Bush-enabling Democrats?  Oh, California’s Eighth District!</p>
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<p>Teddy,</p>
<p>Based on my experience with the leadership of that most democratic of organizations, a labor union, I am of the opinion Bush Dogs serve the Speaker’s purpose. She can hide behind them. She, like my union, loved a good excuse to do nothing for the membership (but they were a shark collecting dues!)</p>
<p>And of course she protects incumbents &#8211; she is one!</p>
<p>The irony boggles my mind when I consider what that old Robber Baron, Vanderbilt, had to say:</p>
<p>“The public be damned!”</p>
<p>That’s pretty much what the Speaker means.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the post Pach,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You bet I will give money to the democrats who will actually act like democrats but I would like to know who it is that represents us, the labor force of America. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who is going to restructure our trade policies so that they protect American labor, it certainly wasn’t a favor that bill clinton did with nafta and cafta and all the other alphabet soup bs. The left is no longer the left but mainly right of center and that is not good enough for me or anybody else who actually works for a living. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am sixty five turning sixty six on saturday and&lt;br /&gt;
I will be working til I die, my SS is not enough and medicare covers some but not all of my medical expenses, and I am already in collection for two nice sized bills. Not looking for sympathy or anything else just giving an example of our phoque up system.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My point  would be to ask all of you who it is that addresses these issues which should be right at the top of any Democratic party platform because they are the only ones that I would give money to.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post Pach,</p>
<p>You bet I will give money to the democrats who will actually act like democrats but I would like to know who it is that represents us, the labor force of America. </p>
<p>Who is going to restructure our trade policies so that they protect American labor, it certainly wasn’t a favor that bill clinton did with nafta and cafta and all the other alphabet soup bs. The left is no longer the left but mainly right of center and that is not good enough for me or anybody else who actually works for a living. </p>
<p>I am sixty five turning sixty six on saturday and<br />
I will be working til I die, my SS is not enough and medicare covers some but not all of my medical expenses, and I am already in collection for two nice sized bills. Not looking for sympathy or anything else just giving an example of our phoque up system.</p>
<p>My point  would be to ask all of you who it is that addresses these issues which should be right at the top of any Democratic party platform because they are the only ones that I would give money to.</p>
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		<title>By: Brownandserve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brownandserve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wynn &lt;a href=&quot;http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/109/house/2/votes/239/&quot;&gt;voted against net neutrality&lt;/a&gt; and so I’ll be contributing to Donna Edwards a second time.  I live in Maryland but I don’t live in his district, so my correspondence has been completely unacknowledged by his office.  So I guess to him, I simply don’t exist.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m hoping my dollars will make more of an impression than my words.  Maybe some of our more wealthy netizens could steal a page for public radio and offer a dollar-for-dollar match for Donna Edwards’ campaign during Congressperp (to coin a term) Wynn’s next fundraiser.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wynn <a href="http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/109/house/2/votes/239/">voted against net neutrality</a> and so I’ll be contributing to Donna Edwards a second time.  I live in Maryland but I don’t live in his district, so my correspondence has been completely unacknowledged by his office.  So I guess to him, I simply don’t exist.</p>
<p>I’m hoping my dollars will make more of an impression than my words.  Maybe some of our more wealthy netizens could steal a page for public radio and offer a dollar-for-dollar match for Donna Edwards’ campaign during Congressperp (to coin a term) Wynn’s next fundraiser.</p>
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