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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/late-late-nite-fdl-zzzzzzzz/#comment-1068547</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1067866&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SanderO @ 253&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I act locally.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What role(s) do you play?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>I act locally.</p>
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<p>What role(s) do you play?</p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/late-late-nite-fdl-zzzzzzzz/#comment-1068265</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“I’m starting to like this guy.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;T; that is a HELL of rip.  :o)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I’m starting to like this guy.”</p>
<p>T; that is a HELL of rip.  :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Pectopah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/late-late-nite-fdl-zzzzzzzz/#comment-1068112</link>
		<dc:creator>Pectopah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t you get it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is not gay because he is MARRIED.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is why he voted against GAY MARRIAGE, because then it would mean he is gay. So long as he is married, and gay marriage is illegal he cannot be gay. Q.E.D.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is how Republican “tortured” logic works.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t you get it.</p>
<p>He is not gay because he is MARRIED.</p>
<p>That is why he voted against GAY MARRIAGE, because then it would mean he is gay. So long as he is married, and gay marriage is illegal he cannot be gay. Q.E.D.</p>
<p>That is how Republican “tortured” logic works.</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/late-late-nite-fdl-zzzzzzzz/#comment-1067977</link>
		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Those are very fine cats!  As Renes Descaghght once observed, “Dormit ergo cattus” or “I kip therefore I cat.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are very fine cats!  As Renes Descaghght once observed, “Dormit ergo cattus” or “I kip therefore I cat.”</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/late-late-nite-fdl-zzzzzzzz/#comment-1067866</link>
		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I act locally.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I act locally.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/late-late-nite-fdl-zzzzzzzz/#comment-1067858</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1067842&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SanderO @ 250&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;IThere are green funds which probably  take small investments. I any case I see the middle man as just another polluter here. Perhaps I am wrong.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;well then, tell me which green fund takes small investments.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and show me &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; american who is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; a polluter. that’s just the point - we &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; are. we’ve got to get past pointing fingers at other people and address our own pollution. i see someone who is trying to do that - and giving other people a way to do that too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t get why you are &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; judgemental. have you been able to decrease the pollution you are responsible for to zero? and if not, why are condemning someone else - someone who’s done more than most of us are willing to do (commuting on his bike).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t get it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[and do you think it’s wrong to contribute to oxfam instead of finding a hungry person, in a country i don’t know, to give food to?]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1067842"><em>SanderO @ 250</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>IThere are green funds which probably  take small investments. I any case I see the middle man as just another polluter here. Perhaps I am wrong.</p>
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<p>well then, tell me which green fund takes small investments.</p>
<p>and show me <em>any</em> american who is <em>not</em> a polluter. that’s just the point &#8211; we <em>all</em> are. we’ve got to get past pointing fingers at other people and address our own pollution. i see someone who is trying to do that &#8211; and giving other people a way to do that too.</p>
<p>i don’t get why you are <em>so</em> judgemental. have you been able to decrease the pollution you are responsible for to zero? and if not, why are condemning someone else &#8211; someone who’s done more than most of us are willing to do (commuting on his bike).</p>
<p>i don’t get it.</p>
<p>[and do you think it’s wrong to contribute to oxfam instead of finding a hungry person, in a country i don’t know, to give food to?]</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/late-late-nite-fdl-zzzzzzzz/#comment-1067851</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just did a little research on this Carona character and he is nasty. He actually used these “deputies” (the Haidl gang noted above) to form a task force to arrest undocumented immigrants around the county. Makes one wonder if this was all a gambit to get the “Minutemen” inside the OC Sheriffs Department to become an armed paramilitary with the access to heavy weaponry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Carona specifically trumpets his Sicilian background, and became a lodge member of the Order of the Sons of Italy in 1999.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Carona became Marshal in 1987 and was elected as Sheriff of Orange County in 1998, ran unopposed in 2002. In 2003, President George W. Bush appointed Carona to the Federal Emergency Response Senior Advisory Committee on Homeland Security, where he advises the Director of Homeland Security.&lt;br /&gt;
 Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger made Carona a commissioner in the California State Athletic Commission in 2004, citing his 3rd degree black belt in Taekwondo. On June 6, 2006, Carona was elected to a third term as Sheriff. But he demonstrated a vindictiveness to his opponent, Bill Hunt. Hunt, the only opponent employed by the Sheriffs Department was placed on administrative leave a few days after the election. Then six months later, Carona demoted Hunt to a rank just above entry-level. Hunt chose to retire instead of dropping to this grade. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Carona&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Carona&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if you think the indictments by the Feds are exagerated…take a look at what lies a tad deeper in this artcle from the Orange County Register! The guy is apparently a serial adulter, mob associate, and all-around scumbag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He makes the corrupt Sheriff, Hank Quinlan, in Orson Welle’s “Touch of Evil” look like Mother Theresa.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/calamity-mike/25218/&quot;&gt;http://www.ocweekly.com/news/n.....ike/25218/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just did a little research on this Carona character and he is nasty. He actually used these “deputies” (the Haidl gang noted above) to form a task force to arrest undocumented immigrants around the county. Makes one wonder if this was all a gambit to get the “Minutemen” inside the OC Sheriffs Department to become an armed paramilitary with the access to heavy weaponry.</p>
<p>Carona specifically trumpets his Sicilian background, and became a lodge member of the Order of the Sons of Italy in 1999.</p>
<p>Carona became Marshal in 1987 and was elected as Sheriff of Orange County in 1998, ran unopposed in 2002. In 2003, President George W. Bush appointed Carona to the Federal Emergency Response Senior Advisory Committee on Homeland Security, where he advises the Director of Homeland Security.<br />
 Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger made Carona a commissioner in the California State Athletic Commission in 2004, citing his 3rd degree black belt in Taekwondo. On June 6, 2006, Carona was elected to a third term as Sheriff. But he demonstrated a vindictiveness to his opponent, Bill Hunt. Hunt, the only opponent employed by the Sheriffs Department was placed on administrative leave a few days after the election. Then six months later, Carona demoted Hunt to a rank just above entry-level. Hunt chose to retire instead of dropping to this grade. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Carona">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Carona</a></p>
<p>And if you think the indictments by the Feds are exagerated…take a look at what lies a tad deeper in this artcle from the Orange County Register! The guy is apparently a serial adulter, mob associate, and all-around scumbag.</p>
<p>He makes the corrupt Sheriff, Hank Quinlan, in Orson Welle’s “Touch of Evil” look like Mother Theresa.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/calamity-mike/25218/">http://www.ocweekly.com/news/n&#8230;..ike/25218/</a></p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/late-late-nite-fdl-zzzzzzzz/#comment-1067842</link>
		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I read the site and The prof drives his big truck back and forth to Vermont. Ha?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are green funds which probably  take small investments. I any case I see the middle man as just another polluter here. Perhaps I am wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s like giving a meal to a hungry person or sending money to the red cross.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the site and The prof drives his big truck back and forth to Vermont. Ha?</p>
<p>There are green funds which probably  take small investments. I any case I see the middle man as just another polluter here. Perhaps I am wrong.</p>
<p>It’s like giving a meal to a hungry person or sending money to the red cross.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/late-late-nite-fdl-zzzzzzzz/#comment-1067775</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;More on the Orange County Sheriff, and erstwhile rising Republican star, that Larry King once called “America’s Sheriff” who has been indicted for corruption.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reminds of that Knack tune  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_on_re_us/sheriff_indictment&quot;&gt;“Who’s my little naughty one, haughty one…Sheriff Mike Carona”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The three-term sheriff faces seven counts, including conspiracy, mail fraud and witness tampering, according to a sweeping indictment unsealed a day earlier.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And as we’ll see he’s suspected of manipulating campaign finances, money laundering, placing campaign cronies into positions of power, accepting bribes which were then given to his mistress…oh the list goes in and on…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If convicted on all counts, Carona could face a maximum sentence of 105 years in prison, plus thousands of dollars in fines.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like an ideal candudate for a Presidential pardon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also charged were Carona’s wife of 27 years, Deborah, and attorney Debra Victoria Hoffman, identified in court papers as his “longtime mistress.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; OOOOH! A “blanket pardon”…a &lt;em&gt; menege a trois&lt;/em&gt; pardon!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hoffman does not have an attorney yet, Mrozek said. A call to her law office after business hours Tuesday was not immediately returned.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe she’ll defend herself. But maybe she’s already hired to do the defense of Carona.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Two former assistant sheriffs, Donald Haidl and George Jaramillo, previously pleaded guilty to related charges as part of a deal with prosecutors.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Some call it TREASON!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Carona and others allegedly accepted $350,000 in gifts and cash in exchange for political favors…Haidl solicited donations to Carona’s election campaign and then reimbursed donors to hide the money trail. After Carona was elected, Haidl, a wealthy businessman, paid for a Lake Tahoe vacation for Carona and Jaramillo and their spouses, officials said. He gave Carona a boat and trailer, personal use of Haidl’s yacht and private plane, and monthly $1,000 payments to Carona for “full access to sheriff’s department resources” and a “get out of jail free card” for friends and family members.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Haidl also appointed Carona and Jaramillo to be  directors of a company owned by his uncle and made a $110,000 loan to Carona’s mistress and Jaramillo to help rescue their floundering law firm.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wait! Hoffman and the Ass’t Sheriff had a law firm together! I didn’t know that cops and lawyers mixed like that. I thought they only had affaires!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; Carona appointed Haidl to the position of assistant sheriff for reserves in 1999 and made Haidl’s family, friends and business associates reserve deputies…Haidl’s teenage son, Gregory, was arrested in a 2002 rape case, and a drug charge a year afterward Carona is accused of…providing “preferential treatment” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Let’s be play cops! And “get out of jail free” cards! No wonder Bush and their Republican cronies LUV the OC as a campaign stop. Bet there’s tons of pictures of Bush, Cheney, Issa, Rohrabacher etc. with these corrupt thugs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the Orange County Sheriff, and erstwhile rising Republican star, that Larry King once called “America’s Sheriff” who has been indicted for corruption.</p>
<p>Reminds of that Knack tune  <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_on_re_us/sheriff_indictment">“Who’s my little naughty one, haughty one…Sheriff Mike Carona”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The three-term sheriff faces seven counts, including conspiracy, mail fraud and witness tampering, according to a sweeping indictment unsealed a day earlier.</p>
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<p>And as we’ll see he’s suspected of manipulating campaign finances, money laundering, placing campaign cronies into positions of power, accepting bribes which were then given to his mistress…oh the list goes in and on…</p>
<blockquote><p>If convicted on all counts, Carona could face a maximum sentence of 105 years in prison, plus thousands of dollars in fines.</p>
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<p>Looks like an ideal candudate for a Presidential pardon.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also charged were Carona’s wife of 27 years, Deborah, and attorney Debra Victoria Hoffman, identified in court papers as his “longtime mistress.”</p>
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<p> OOOOH! A “blanket pardon”…a <em> menege a trois</em> pardon!</p>
<blockquote><p>Hoffman does not have an attorney yet, Mrozek said. A call to her law office after business hours Tuesday was not immediately returned.</p>
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<p>Maybe she’ll defend herself. But maybe she’s already hired to do the defense of Carona.</p>
<blockquote><p>Two former assistant sheriffs, Donald Haidl and George Jaramillo, previously pleaded guilty to related charges as part of a deal with prosecutors.</p>
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<p> Some call it TREASON!</p>
<blockquote><p>Carona and others allegedly accepted $350,000 in gifts and cash in exchange for political favors…Haidl solicited donations to Carona’s election campaign and then reimbursed donors to hide the money trail. After Carona was elected, Haidl, a wealthy businessman, paid for a Lake Tahoe vacation for Carona and Jaramillo and their spouses, officials said. He gave Carona a boat and trailer, personal use of Haidl’s yacht and private plane, and monthly $1,000 payments to Carona for “full access to sheriff’s department resources” and a “get out of jail free card” for friends and family members.</p>
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<blockquote><p>Haidl also appointed Carona and Jaramillo to be  directors of a company owned by his uncle and made a $110,000 loan to Carona’s mistress and Jaramillo to help rescue their floundering law firm.</p>
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<p>Wait! Hoffman and the Ass’t Sheriff had a law firm together! I didn’t know that cops and lawyers mixed like that. I thought they only had affaires!</p>
<blockquote><p> Carona appointed Haidl to the position of assistant sheriff for reserves in 1999 and made Haidl’s family, friends and business associates reserve deputies…Haidl’s teenage son, Gregory, was arrested in a 2002 rape case, and a drug charge a year afterward Carona is accused of…providing “preferential treatment” </p>
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<p> Let’s be play cops! And “get out of jail free” cards! No wonder Bush and their Republican cronies LUV the OC as a campaign stop. Bet there’s tons of pictures of Bush, Cheney, Issa, Rohrabacher etc. with these corrupt thugs.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1067727&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Waccamaw @ 241&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Will have to ask David about the transmit thingy. I think he tried the business with going to C-Span last night and it got awfully convoluted. Will follow your instructions to see if I can get it to work. The good piece of news is that he “taught” me how to access RSS stuff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you post the hearings you “rip” on your web site; is that how I would get to them? If my computer ignorance hits a wall, will have more time after Christmas to get together with him for training.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much for all your help!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sounds great! no rush, just let me know what i can do to help.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;all the committee hearing audio files i’ve posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netrootsmass.net/Congressional_Hearings/files/category-3.html&quot;&gt;are here&lt;/a&gt; (i record more than i post, lots of times i won’t post unless someone expresses an interest).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1067727"><em>Waccamaw @ 241</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Will have to ask David about the transmit thingy. I think he tried the business with going to C-Span last night and it got awfully convoluted. Will follow your instructions to see if I can get it to work. The good piece of news is that he “taught” me how to access RSS stuff.</p>
<p>Do you post the hearings you “rip” on your web site; is that how I would get to them? If my computer ignorance hits a wall, will have more time after Christmas to get together with him for training.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for all your help!</p>
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<p>sounds great! no rush, just let me know what i can do to help.</p>
<p>all the committee hearing audio files i’ve posted <a href="http://www.netrootsmass.net/Congressional_Hearings/files/category-3.html">are here</a> (i record more than i post, lots of times i won’t post unless someone expresses an interest).</p>
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