Comments on: Influence http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:46:42 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067662 cinnamonape Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:37:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067662 <p><a href="#comment-1066754"><em>Twain @ 230</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1066745"><em>Joe Klein’s conscience @ 221</em></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Bayh probably has that wrapped up already.</p></blockquote> <p>I hope not. Bayh is so bland he fades into the woodwork.</p></blockquote> <p>Bayh and Hillary are regionally mismatched. She needs a Southerner or a Westerner. Likely someone that is progressive and hasn’t set themselves up as totally antagonistic to her statements. Edwards is pushing himself away from that position. His attacks will be used by the Republicans…although they will have some problems making it sound like they aren’t attacking her for THEIR positions.</p> <p>Wait, maybe Clinton-Edwards wouldn’t be such a bad strategy.</p> Twain @ 230

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 221

Bayh probably has that wrapped up already.

I hope not. Bayh is so bland he fades into the woodwork.

Bayh and Hillary are regionally mismatched. She needs a Southerner or a Westerner. Likely someone that is progressive and hasn’t set themselves up as totally antagonistic to her statements. Edwards is pushing himself away from that position. His attacks will be used by the Republicans…although they will have some problems making it sound like they aren’t attacking her for THEIR positions.

Wait, maybe Clinton-Edwards wouldn’t be such a bad strategy.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067532 MarkH Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:26:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067532 <p><a href="#comment-1066800"><em>sadly yes @ 268</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Hill doesnt know what decimate means</p></blockquote> <p>Tell her there are ten answers. Ha!</p> sadly yes @ 268

Hill doesnt know what decimate means

Tell her there are ten answers. Ha!

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067526 MarkH Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:23:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067526 <p><a href="#comment-1066759"><em>GSD @ 235</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Can one of these people call Bush an asshole? Please.</p> <p>-GSD</p></blockquote> <p>Hilarious. Indeed, why hasn’t anyone called that horse’s ass what he is?</p> <p>I guess it’s just so obvious we’ve moved on.</p> GSD @ 235

Can one of these people call Bush an asshole? Please.

-GSD

Hilarious. Indeed, why hasn’t anyone called that horse’s ass what he is?

I guess it’s just so obvious we’ve moved on.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067512 MarkH Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:16:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067512 <p><a href="#comment-1066668"><em>BlueMesa @ 144</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Edwards I think is making good points, but I wish he would stop smiling and trying to look pretty so much.</p></blockquote> <p>I think he’s been so serious lately that he’s just trying to connect visually with the public. It’s important for people to realize he DOES have a good sense of humor. Besides, he has a great smile.</p> BlueMesa @ 144

Edwards I think is making good points, but I wish he would stop smiling and trying to look pretty so much.

I think he’s been so serious lately that he’s just trying to connect visually with the public. It’s important for people to realize he DOES have a good sense of humor. Besides, he has a great smile.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067481 MarkH Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:07:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067481 <p><a href="#comment-1066534"><em>raven @ 18</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Hillary dancin like a mofo.</p></blockquote> <p>LOL, one of the funniest things I’ve ever read.</p> raven @ 18

Hillary dancin like a mofo.

LOL, one of the funniest things I’ve ever read.

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067168 mui Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:18:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1067168 <p>What a despicable little apparatchnik Russert is. It seemed like Mary Matalin wrote his questions. Probably some of Williams too. “shirly maclaine says you saw a UFO (to kucinich).” I am glad Hillary smacked Russert with republican framing. I was horrified when Obama played into Republican hands with his subsequent answer. I was taken aback when Dodd raised his hand and attacked Hillary on the Spitzer id issue. I didn’t like him saying a license is a “privelege”. And Obama saying au contraire, “we can train them.” Other than that I thought Dodd and Edwards did well.<br /> Obama overall looked like a HoJoe acolyte divider.</p> What a despicable little apparatchnik Russert is. It seemed like Mary Matalin wrote his questions. Probably some of Williams too. “shirly maclaine says you saw a UFO (to kucinich).” I am glad Hillary smacked Russert with republican framing. I was horrified when Obama played into Republican hands with his subsequent answer. I was taken aback when Dodd raised his hand and attacked Hillary on the Spitzer id issue. I didn’t like him saying a license is a “privelege”. And Obama saying au contraire, “we can train them.” Other than that I thought Dodd and Edwards did well.
Obama overall looked like a HoJoe acolyte divider.

]]> By: Steve-AR http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1066841 Steve-AR Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:07:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1066841 <p><a href="#comment-1066768"><em>Joe Klein’s conscience @ 244</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1066672"><em>Eureka Springs @ 148</em></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Perfect example of a flawed scoring… For example Dennis voted no on the first version of SCHIP because it excluded non citizen children.. he often votes no when bills are not progressive enough… If his vote would have been a deciding factor..he would have voted for SCHIP originally..and of course he voted to over ride Bush’s veto.</p></blockquote> <p>Dennis is the most progressive in the race. Those scores are misleading. I saw one with Senators, and Feingold was only in the middle of the pack. That is when I knew you had to take the scores with a grain of salt.</p></blockquote> <p>That why also look at the full list and also look at the individual votes..the database is pretty extensive. It seems a part of his somewhat low score is missing “close votes”.</p> Joe Klein’s conscience @ 244

Eureka Springs @ 148

Perfect example of a flawed scoring… For example Dennis voted no on the first version of SCHIP because it excluded non citizen children.. he often votes no when bills are not progressive enough… If his vote would have been a deciding factor..he would have voted for SCHIP originally..and of course he voted to over ride Bush’s veto.

Dennis is the most progressive in the race. Those scores are misleading. I saw one with Senators, and Feingold was only in the middle of the pack. That is when I knew you had to take the scores with a grain of salt.

That why also look at the full list and also look at the individual votes..the database is pretty extensive. It seems a part of his somewhat low score is missing “close votes”.

]]> By: redx http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1066832 redx Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:05:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1066832 <p><a href="#comment-1066780"><em>BlueMesa @ 256</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Good for Kucinich to try to bring the discussion back to real issues. I doubt the moderators will let him though.</p></blockquote> <p>DK: Best line with him going off and then calling the debate a “BIG FLOP” if they don’t get on point.</p> BlueMesa @ 256

Good for Kucinich to try to bring the discussion back to real issues. I doubt the moderators will let him though.

DK: Best line with him going off and then calling the debate a “BIG FLOP” if they don’t get on point.

]]> By: Dru http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1066829 Dru Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:05:25 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1066829 <p><a href="#comment-1066582"><em>Jane Hamsher @ 60</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1066546"><em>dakine01 @ 28</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Forgive the OT, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/arts/music/30cnd-goulet.html?hp">Robert Goulet RIP</a></p></blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/arts/19bishop.html">Joey Bishop too</a>.</p> <p>Texas Across the River was one of my favorite movies when I was a kid. </p> <p>I took profound lessons from that particular film.</p></blockquote> <p>I don’t recall ever seeing that one. Going to look for it now!</p> Jane Hamsher @ 60

dakine01 @ 28

Forgive the OT, Robert Goulet RIP

Joey Bishop too.

Texas Across the River was one of my favorite movies when I was a kid.

I took profound lessons from that particular film.

I don’t recall ever seeing that one. Going to look for it now!

]]> By: redx http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1066822 redx Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:04:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/30/influence/#comment-1066822 <p><a href="#comment-1066780"><em>BlueMesa @ 256</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Good for Kucinich to try to bring the discussion back to real issues. I doubt the moderators will let him though.</p></blockquote> BlueMesa @ 256

Good for Kucinich to try to bring the discussion back to real issues. I doubt the moderators will let him though.

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