Clinton has done the right thing. Credit where credit is due.

Edwards said he was against immunity. Hillary followed…again.

The one that skewers Bush and the Republicans for spending $500 billion on clusterfuck in Iraq, while ignoring serious needs here at home?

Because, I’m thinking that with her support for the war, this is an issue that, if Hillary Clinton tries to bring it up, the GOP will fillet her for even mentioning it.

Jane Hamsher @ 31

Yes.

Yes, indeed. She’s not my choice, but you take support where you can find it, and her support is crucial. I think the post above by JoeKleinsconscience is on the money. She is relying on low-information voters because sad to say and so dangerous for democracy, that’s where the votes are. Senator Clinton can’t move too fast because if she does she gets blindsided by negative ads, the way Kerry let himself get blindsided. This is the world we live in. You go to an election with the voters you have, not the ones you’d like to have.

The emergence of a large mass of uninformed voters who no longer have viable intermediaries between themselves and the governing classes is probably the crucial political development in my generation (since 1960). I think Hannah Arendt’s analysis of this phenomenon in post-World War I Europe is applicable to the United States today. The decline in party membership and local participation, the decline in the union movement, the rise of megachurches and tevee populism have gutted the intermediate institutions that until the early 1970s constituted the effective link between people and their government. It’s also why we are seeing the rise of a fascist movement.

This is not an an issue of “uninformed voters” controlling the elections. There could not have been a bigger set of “uninformed voters” in Georgia who voted in democratic primaries in the 30s for Roosevelt a patrician farmer from Dutchess County, New York. Why did Georgia democrats go for Roosevelt? Because of his message. Put aside unions, there were none to speak of in Georgia at that time.

The Clintons are vapid and have no message, never did, never will. Gore is a complete flake and Kerry was incompetent. How do you send a message? You make people feel it. That is what Dodd has been doing for the past weeks and it has nothing to do with a contrived problem of “uninformed voters.” The Clintons may win again by simply leveraging off comparisons with other similarly weak people. Look who Clinton ran against in New York for the Senate

Myrtle June @ 148

It was a stellar post over at Digby’s!! And she let the comments run freeeeee too. Refreshing to see, it was. :-)

MSM is salivating over HRC/Giuliani rematch. they’ll do whatever it takes to make it happen and to make it close.

But take that a step further and who’s behind the MSM? Who runs that messaging center? Yes, that’s right… the pubbies.

If I were a single-issue voter, the issue that would determine my vote would fall into the general category of…

Foreign Policy 18% 1886 votes
Constitutional Issues 18% 1843 votes
Global Warming and the Environment 13% 1388 votes
Health Care 11% 1116 votes
The “Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex” 10% 1105 votes
Human Rights/Civil Rights 6% 704 votes
The Economy, Trade and Globalization 6% 628 votes
Other 3% 350 votes
Reproductive Rights 2% 297 votes
Poverty 2% 210 votes
“Family Values” 1% 202 votes
Government Policy in the Realm of Science 1% 144 votes
Education 1% 138 votes
Freedom of Expression 1% 110 votes
total 10121 votes

This is not leadership. This is pandering to the electorate. Leadership would not have had to check which way the wind was blowing before taking a stand.

John Edwards should be the next POTUS. Edwards/Kucinich.